Thread:Killer365/@comment-25306382-20150102043016/@comment-4224349-20150102234510

Judgekoo wrote: Superluigi6 wrote: Jay T. Dawgzone wrote: Lilduders wrote: Jay T. Dawgzone wrote: Lilduders wrote: Jay T. Dawgzone wrote: Likeo35 wrote:

Jay T. Dawgzone wrote:

Superluigi6 wrote: Judgekoo wrote: Jay T. Dawgzone wrote: KnightPearl has banned me from that chat! For no reason! And you might wanna check this out: http://steven-universe.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:36913#4Don't you dare lie on this KP! Well, technically, in his defense, You kinda were bratty at first, then you were kicked, you came back all nice and wanted to call a truce but posted a "decleration of war" (in lack of a proper term) to KP on Luigi's wall. The ban was kinda iffy, but you were kinda asking for it. Judgekoo, if you can tell me how Jay was bratty, this would help this case very greatly. And in the long response you said that Pearl could be demoted and how is that so?

And just for everyone to know, I don't want to take sides. I believe that here, if someone breaks a rule then that person should be punished. Bratty? I wasn't a brat when I was in the chat (that rhymes). I was trying to make a truce (as shown in the picture above), then KP randomly calls me a punk for that. Well, u still fought KP was pushing it, I had no choice.

You could have just taken the screenshots and posted them on Killer's wall, which is what you do when an admin is being abusive, instead of engaging her in further fighting. Fighting with KP puts you at blame as well. I did take some screenshots, and admins aren't even supposed to be abusive in the first place. What was Pearl thinking when she promoted her? And can't Luigi demote her to patroller (to where she has less power)? She did that to me. And can you unban me? I miss the chat.

I know that you did take screenshots, but you should have just taken the screenshots instead of arguing with KP. Because you did, there's a possibility that you could have said something offensive to KP that caused her to ban you, but I wouldn't know because the screenshots provided are solely in your favor and we've yet to hear KP's side of it.

Until this argument and all of it's details are sorted out, there should be no demoting of anybody unless there's one or both of you is clearly in the wrong. And a patroller is actually a higher position than a rollback, so I think KP meant to demote you and ended up accidentally promoting you instead. Also, if you're asking me, I can't unban you from the chat. I don't possess that power and there may be a good reason you were banned that we don't know of yet.

Could you tell your side of the story right here? Everything that you remembered that happened in the fight and led up to it? It's important to know all of the details, and I'll ask KP the same to see what her side of it was like. I provided most of the details, but I don't feel like a typing a huge paragraph describing it. You're making it seem as if you asked to be buero, KP saw it as bragging, you offered for truce, and then she banned you. If this is the case, then please say so. How I saw it:

I was already in chat, and KP, also many others. Jay entered the chat and linked KP's "crap" message on her and told KP to not post crap like that. KP said "I know". A fight started about whom started it, obviously both parties blamed each other. KP actually warned Jay he will get kicked, saying "I don't wanna do it" and Jay saying "Do it, you have the power" (though not necessariliy word for word but that's about the gist of it). More taunts occured. Everyone was practically against Jay at this point (btw my favorite message was "Cut the crap lady, you're failing so hard right now" I don't know why but I laughed so hard at this, everyone in the house thought I was insane). Jay was then kicked. There was then a small time of quite in chat. In that small amount of time, Jay wrote on Luigi's wall this little gem, came back to chat after writing that. And WANTING a freaking truce AFTER writing that, I mean come on, if you wanted to be sly at least post that after truce-making failed, it would've made it much more believable. That message to Luigi was actually the focal point of the second argument. KP asked relentlessly about it and how it was Jay who started it but Jay just shrugged it off and saying "I want truce!" "I want truce" and then you were banned. Also the people in chat weren't in Jay nor in KP's favor right now, everyone was trying to calm everyone down at this point. After Jay was banned we then talked about Sodas!!

If anyone asks, there was no freaking truce! In order for a truce to be made, both parties must agree on peace. Jay WANTED truce but KP denied the truce because of Jay's little gem (and many of her actions) on Luigi's wall, so in short there was no truce. Jay you were being sassy, you might have thought you were asking politely but everybody in chat saw you as being really sassy (and not the good kind of sassy). You say to keep her opinions to herself, please, for the love of glob, practice what you preach. Staff must have, at times not all of the time, a sense of superiority to invoke rules on you, as technically you are under aged for the wiki. At first, you didn't want a truce, both of you fought, you got kicked, you came back, you ignored KP's plee to talk about it, you got banned, end of story. Also, KP was being unjust for the ban, Jay might have been annoying before and after the kick but she sure didn't quite deserve the chat ban. . . yet.

If you can gather me a list of everyone who was on the chat at that time, that would be amazing and extremely helpful. But thank you for the in depth analysis of your point of view.

About the age policy, we have made exceptions before. For example, we have made an exception for Likeo if I'm correct. If there was no exception previously, then possibly the bueros here would make an exception for Jay. I do have a slight memory of there being an exception for Jay, but I could be incorrect.