Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4731447-20150714000925/@comment-28584561-20150717002328

Fokkusu1991 wrote:

Judgekoo wrote:

Guess what? The person who leaked the information has already stopped when Matt posted on his message wall. This discussion is for things yet to come. A lot of people are always eager to post things that they find on other social media sites. And Matt said something along the lines of not being able to stop people from sharing what they want and he's right. The wiki's only one part of a bigger picture.

Also, you said that the wiki doesn't need new staff but proceeds to say we need forum mods. . . what?

The only leaked episode was "We Need To Talk", we added the info accordingly since everyone with an internet connection could already see it. Plus it was only leaked some hours before its initial airing.

Information leaks don't quite happen as often as you think. The only two episodes whose info was leaked were "Cry for Help" and a little of "Keystone Motel" and that's about it. The official pages for it were constantly edited to remove leaks but the forums and message sections weren't as cleaned, as regular users can't edit other people's comments.

It's as if you're new to this wiki. Good, then all that is needed at this point is an announcement telling people not to leak/spread leaked info. Leaks are so rare anyway that this whole "we need leak police" reaction is completely overblown.

I said that we don't need new staff SPECIFICALLY FOR LEAKS. We DO need forum mods. Reading comprehension.

I said, in the post YOU QUOTED, that leaks hardly ever happen. Again: Reading comprehension.

I'm actually not being particularly brutal with my criticisms of how the wiki is run. I've formerly been active in communities where people have held community-consuming monster-sized flame wars over admins or mods. I've been in communities where admins themselves have vandalized the community to the point where you can't even log in, when they don't even own the site or the servers. No, this is not the worst-run community I've ever been in. It's still... not great in various ways. I really, really don't want to see things taking a turn for the worse because people can't decide/agree on how they want to do things, a handful of people go on a power trip, etc. I've seen it happen before elsewhere.

It's absolutely astounding to me that people are suggesting an entirely new, entirely unnecessary class of staff while neglecting the fact that part of this community (the forums) is very much understaffed. This wiki doesn't take too kindly to those who abuse their powers. Notable mentions of staff from the past.

Well, I might have confused the idion "hell freezing over" for something else but you're attitude and sentence construction needs improvement as well.

When you say that the wiki doesn't need new staff, you're saying that the wiki's current staff is enough. Which obviously it isn't. What you ought to say is that the wiki doesn't need new staff positions as the ones that are already here will suffice. Staff are the users. Staff positions are the titles that the member of the staff holds, with each title having a different job than the other.

Also, if you actually took a part of your time and see what's happening in the community, you'd see that the wiki's been hiring new staff (at a very slow rate, btw). We're done with the chat mod elections, the wiki now has 8 chat mods. And we're in the process of hiring moderators. Next up are patrollers and image control. Being responsible is one thing, being patient is another. And seeing that leaks hardly ever happen, patience is what you really need right now.