Steven Universe Wiki:Chat/Logs/17 Sep 2016

 [00:00:00] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: 8c/16t [00:00:00] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: and will be quickly deprecated by their yet-to-be-released arch [00:00:21] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: but then again Broadwell-E is like 2 years ago [00:00:24] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: The engineering sample doesn&#039;t actually speak to the quality of the final product [00:00:43] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: obviously the final product will be better than the sample since its just that, a sample [00:00:57] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: Better is rather subjective [00:01:11] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: I dont see why they&#039;d go backwards [00:01:18] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: and make it worse in performance [00:01:19] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: a 0.1‰ increase is better than the sample [00:02:24] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: if Zen turns out to be a rebranded bulldozer then Intel should just buy out AMD [00:02:33] [CHAT] All hooper: https://67.media.tumblr.com/141ed6419ff344f1c17fb521f9602337/tumblr_odlut6YGYy1segedgo3_r1_500.png oml [00:02:38] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: There is nothing to gain from buying them out [00:02:54] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: they can directly control the consumer desktop/laptop CPU market [00:02:54] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: And even then US anti-trust associations wouldn&#039;t allow it [00:03:07] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: remember back in the old days when AMD was a reseller for Intel [00:03:09] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: and had its own clones [00:03:11] [JOIN] Agithatheprincess has warped into the Crystal Palace [00:03:13] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: Since it would effectively monopolize the industry [00:03:25] [CHAT] Agithatheprincess: Hey people who are people most definitely [00:03:25] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: it already is monopolized lmao [00:03:43] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: thats why Intel held the performance crown since the original Athlon in 2000 [00:03:58] [QUIT] Agithatheprincess has warped out [00:04:31] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: It is not monopolized [00:04:31] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: and dont forget the i7-6950x is like what, $1500? [00:04:37] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: Since there is competition [00:04:42] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: if AMD had something similar it would be much lower [00:04:49] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: No one really needs the i7 though [00:04:49] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: but they dont, so they can charge what they like [00:04:56] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: = monopoly [00:05:11] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: No, a monopoly is where one company dominates the market alone [00:05:41] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: its not 100% domination yeah [00:05:45] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: &quot;the exclusive possession or control of the supply or trade in a commodity or service.&quot; [00:05:46] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: but you get the idea [00:06:11] [JOIN] Cheeseskates has warped into the Crystal Palace [00:06:11] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: Just because the competition is not stacked equally doesn&#039;t really mean that there is no competition at all [00:06:14] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: I wish they would do what NVIDIA did and give a 40% performance boost from the previous gen [00:06:25] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: But seriously, AMD is going down hill and they have to know it by now [00:06:25] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: keeps the innovation going at a nice pace [00:06:33] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: They are just not doing good at all [00:06:39] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: Not in the processor market [00:07:01] [JOIN] KawaiiKame has warped into the Crystal Palace [00:07:02] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: what annoys me is how they&#039;re adopting multi threading so late now with Zen [00:07:05] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: As processes become smaller so do the costs of production [00:07:06] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: when Intel have used it for many years [00:07:19] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: Since AMD has to rebuild a new foundry for every new process [00:07:29] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: And that can take a long time and tonnes of money [00:07:48] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: AMD has always had multi-threadding [00:07:52] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: clustered [00:07:56] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: Unless you mean hyper-threading [00:07:58] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: I meant to say hyperthreading sorry [00:08:02] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: Ah [00:08:22] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: Right now my experiment has a run time of 3 hours [00:08:23] [CHAT] らり牛ちゃん: Whoo [00:08:29] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: if I was in AMD&#039;s position i&#039;d probably do the same and work from the ground up [00:08:36] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: they are cornered by Intel and NVIDIA and they know it [00:08:46] [CHAT] Ozank Cx: the gap is worse in the CPU market obviously