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XxGaiaXx wrote: I-Ship-Stevidot wrote: PeridotThePerky wrote: I-Ship-Stevidot wrote: PeridotThePerky wrote: I-Ship-Stevidot, I saw you said that we have "little-to-no hints of Amethyst liking Peridot". That is NOT true. With Kevonnie and Pearlrose there were no hints of it from the other side. Rose OBVIOUSLY did not like Pearl back. Stevonnie OBVIOUSLY did not like Kevin back. Amethyst liking Peridot? Yes, there are a good hints. not as many hints for Peridot liking Amethyst, but still quite a few. Back around "Too Far" I would have agreed with you. Then, it seemed more of a one-sided thing. But since the last StevenBomb, we got some more information on how the relationship may be reciprocal.

'''1. Amethyst blowing up the Peridot balloon. '''Tell me this: why would the Crewniverse waste 10 precious seconds of air time to Amethyst popping up a balloon unless it hinted at something... more?

'''2. Peridot's betrayal. 'Amethyst was horrified. Honestly, I don't remember seeing her so upset since On the Run. ''And here, she wasn't the victim. Steven was also upset, but I don't believe it was for shipping reasons. He put a lot of trust into her and she didn't turn up good. Pearl and Garnet just seemed worried. So why was specifically Amethyst so upset? Something to think about.

'''3. Nicknames. '''You guys on the con side have pointed out that Amethyst has nicknames for Pearl and Steven too. True. Very true. So I was looking around the wiki and here's how many nicknames Amethyst has for the other Crystal Gems:

Steven: 5 nicknames

Garnet: 1 nickname

Pearl: 3 nicknames

Peridot: 8 nicknames

It actually surprised me how little nicknames Amethyst gave to Pearl. I'd also like to point out that Amethyst almost (and I say almost because she did shorten "Yellow Diamond" to "Yellow D") never gives nicknames to villains. She never gave one to Lapis, she never gave one to Jasper, heck, she never even gave Peridot a nickname until she was captured by the Crystal Gems. Amethyst has only given nicknames to the ones she's closest to. Peridot has the most nicknames even though she's been in very few episodes compared to the other Crystal Gems.

4. I've been practicing my Peri-phrasing! Amethyst shape-shifted into Pearl to make fun of her. Amethyst shape-shifted into Steven to play a game with the other Crystal Gems. But she shape-shifted into Peridot for the sake of flattering her. Just because! And she happily shape-shifted into a chicken for her.

(Also, note to Gaia: Add more "meat" to your posts. You only put one piece of evidece and then say it looked like flirting to you. Try to say something that most fans can universally agree on and use that to your advantage!) (Sorry I hadnt replied in a while, I was doing stuff and forgot about this thread...bleh, sorry)

1. Why would they spend seconds for Amethyst booping Pearl's nose? Or an entire ending with Pearl and Steven having some fun? Because they had a past relationship (as in a friendly relationship, not a necessarily romantic one) and besides, it's just filler. It is not really foreshadowing, as much as Pearl calling Steven Rose, Pearl saying she is 'just a Pearl', or Garnet having two gems.

2. For the same reasons Steven was upset; they cared for her, they put a lot of trust in her, and guess what? Suddenly, betrayal. They were betrayed by someone they thought they could trust. And if Steven being upset, which I haven't seen him this upset in the history of...EVER, is not shipping fodder, than how is Amethyst being upset shipping fodder? Again, not trying to bring Stevidot into this, I am just comparing the two reactions and visible emotions.

3. Amethyst shapeshifted into A LOT of things to make Steven happy, and even REFORMED in strange ways to make GARNET happy. She doesn't care about how SHE feels that much, remember? She shapeshifts often, it is/was her thing. She shapeshifted into a cat so Steven can learn shapeshifting, a Steven so she can play with him, a Dogcopter for his laughs, a pinata and a car so Steven can rejuvenate, and dont get me STARTED on what she did to herself in Reformed, simply to make Garnet proud of her! Shapeshifting for others is not exactly a new thing for her.

Finally! I wanted to tell Gaia this, but I didnt have the right words

1. Good point. I'll agree with you on that, actually. (But I still think it's future relationship hints.)

2. Amethyst visibly put as much trust into Peridot as Pearl and Garnet did. We don't really know how much she did, but I believe that she put in more than them, but I'll try not to look through my shipping goggles. Anyways, due to Steven's nature, he put a lot of trust into her. Every time Steven has put trust into someone they turn out good. But Peridot? All that hard work, gone. Why is Amethyst more upset than Garnet and Pearl when visibly she had just put as much trust into Peridot as them. Well, until now. We see that she did actually put a lot of trust into Peridot. She not only wanted but she expected Peridot to do the right thing. Amethyst was angrier than Garnet and Pearl, and it wasn't her nature to do this.

3. Ah, family. Steven's like her little brother. If I could shape-shift, I would totally use it to make my little brother/ sister happy. And if I felt like it, flirting. (But I'm pretty shy, unlike Amethyst, sooooo.....) In Reformed, it wasn't so much to make Garnet proud of her and more that she was reaching her limit. I KNOW that I'm angry I overdo what my parents want me to do so they can just shut up, even if it's kinda dangerous. Garnet is like her older sibling, too. She'd want to impress her.

4. Nicknames? Well, as Gaia pointed out, Amethyst may use nicknames differently than you do. Also, Amethyst called Peridot nicknames before Message Recieved. Just look through the transcripts. Amethyst uses nicknamaes a LOT, probably more than you do. And do you really have a friend that has 8 different nicknames? Do you really have a friend where you know there exact timing and response to something you do? Probably not. I'm not saying that you're not close to your friends, I'm sure you are, but it takes a LOT of getting to know someone to be able to do that. 1. They have had a friendly relationship since Too Far, Pearl and Steven since, well, basically the PILOT, Amethyst and Pearl since BEFORE THE SERIES (I assume, since Ame said Pearl used to be fun). I guess this is fodder too, then.

2. She has been shown having a friendly relationship with Peri in the past (e.g., "Too Far" and in one of those flashbacks in "Log Date 7 15 2"). The difference between Pearl and Garnet's trust towards Peri and Steven and Amethyst's is that Pearl and Garnet expected betrayal; Peri was their friend, and they believed in her more. This, mixed with Peridot's 'betrayal', made them angry, upset, disappointed, and distrustful. They felt PAIN, while the others expected it.

3. Amethyst shapeshifts ALOT for people to be happy or irritated; she doesnt have to have a romantic feeling to shapeshift into something. And once you take into consideration that Amethyst LITERALLY tried to CHANGE HER APPEARANCE PERMANETLY for Garnet, you'll see that her shapeshifting into Peridot is really relatively small (also, she does a mean Pearl)

4. Amethyst's nicknames, when you put them into consideration, really mean nothing. Two out of 8 of her nicknames for Peri were offensive, and she gave a nickname to Yellow Diamond and the Cluster, both which she has never known (heck, she didn't even know what the cluster WAS at the time). And if nicknames really meant something romantic, if that is what you 2 are implying by more, then does that mean she had a crush on Steven, who before Peridot had 5 nicknames, the most nicknames she gave to anyone at the time? Also, here are my nicknames for my dogs:

Dog #1, Lima Bean:

Bean

Beanie

Beans

Lima

Lima Been

The Beans

Sieva Bean

Sieva

Jumping Bean

That dog ALONE has more nicknames than Peridot, none of them rude ones. I guess I have a crush on my dog then *shudders at the thought*. My friends? I dont really give them much nicknames, though combined they probably would. And if they somehow guessed EXACTLY what I would do, I would give them a medal for randomness (I wore a bag at lunch today how can you guess someone would do that) Peridot is relatively predictable. She uses the same insult, she uses big words, acts smart (which she is, no offense), and basically thinks everything logically and technically.

Thats mah rebuttal for now. Savor and refute it while ya can. There are so many things wrong with this post. Your just stating how you feel and what you do. You're saying that Amethyst is you, basically. Now let me correct you :

1. Pearl and Amethyst were distant and often hated on each other until On the Run, Amethyst and Peridot weren't nice to eachother until Too Far.

2. Garnet and Pearl's trust for Peridot is different then Amethyst and Steven's. Amethyst and Steven did feel all those emotions but Amethyst was the most horrified out of everyone. We don't usually see her that way and she wasn't the victim here.

3. Yes, but certian people, and your right it doesn't have to but it can be a romantic feeling. Amethyst didn't just change her form forever to impress Garnet, she also did it to impress Steven. AND HOW DOES AMETHYST REGENERATION'S IN REFORMED HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS? I'm sorry but you're just comparing Amethyst regenerations to this and it doesn't make any sense at all. Amethyst has done it to have fun, she has done it to Pearl to annoy her, she has done it to Greg to make him unconformable,  she has done it to Steven to play with him and to entertain him, and has done it to Peridot to make her feel proud about herself.

4. Like I said before, You're not Amethyst. You don't know what her nicknames mean and neither do I. 2/8 of her nicknames for Peridot is an insult but hey. You're right, she didn't know what the cluster is BUT she was asking what it looks like. Nicknames can mean romantic things (Eli from Degrassi has called his love interest multiple romantic nicknames). And I'm not saying she has romantic feelings for Steven. AND ONcE AGAIN, Amethyst's nicknames may have a different meaning then yours. 1. Pearl and Ame didn't HATE each other, per ce, but they fueded a lot. If they really DESPISED each other, they wouldn't even TRY TO TALK TO EACHOTHER. And also, Pearl and Ame were shown to probably have had a good relationship before; Amethyst said, "Ugh! You're no fun anymore! This is why we dont form Opal!", which possibly implies that Pearl used to be 'fun' before Rose died.

2. To be honest, Steven seemed like the most horrified to me, even without my shipping goggles. Steven put more trust into Peridot than anyone else; he had expected her to turn good, to be a Crystal Gem. We have hardly seen Steven this upset, and like A ethyst, he wasn't the victim.

3. "I'm sorry but you're comparing Amethyst regenerations to this and it doesn't make any sense at all". Actually, it does make sense. Amethyst was willing to change HER ENTIRE FORM just to make Garnet and Steven proud of her. She just shape shifted into Peridot to bug her/make her proud of herself, but Amethyst shape shifted into people before; heck, earlier she had shape shifted into Lion!

4. Those are called pet names, and they are typically used by people already in a relationship. (e.g., sugar plum, honeybun, honeybee).

(I would say more, but I need to update my WiFi for a bit. See ya soon!)