Thread:GarThorTmk/@comment-34471622-20190221235404/@comment-5956954-20190222080524

GarThorTmk wrote: Great, now I'm scrolling through my comments at 10:30 at night, trying to figure out which specific word triggered your profanity filter. Ctrl+F doesn't seem useful since I never used any of the words spelled out on the blacklist. It was the S-Bomb when you said "bull" you-know-what in the messages that were denied to be sent.

GarThorTmk wrote: I did skim through all of the tabs at the top, and still couldn't find the bit about necroposting Sharayna let you know in this comment a while ago (image itself). Though the word "necropost" does not exist in the written form in the rules, the existing text matches the common definition of necroposting. Though the term is used differently across different sites, necroposting here only considers the date regardless of the content (hence the rule itself that makes no exceptions).

GarThorTmk wrote: The thing that bugs me most is that you are still complaining about the junk going down in these threads, instead of addressing the actual thing I'd like to talk about. Sharayna and now I have addressed the actual thing you wanted to talk about: Kevin's car, right? From what has been decided, a page is not needed for it. That's a Staff decision. There are no official criteria for what determines the minimum or not, but I am attempting a draft if you're interested.

GarThorTmk wrote: You still refuse to acknowledge that any of your actions were toxic and unfriendly to a relatively new user, who was trying to be helpful. I'm pretty sure you were the first to call us "dicks" for letting you know of the rules. That's when the more hostile behavior had begun because you seem to be attempting to justify your actions regardless of the violation and turning a simple warning into an argument about the policy system of the wiki and how it works against new users. Because the issue wasn't serious, it was a simple comment on your wall rather than an outright block preventing your access to the site altogether. It is best to acknowledge the mistake and, by doing this, know how to contribute better.

GarThorTmk wrote: Your regulations section reads like a EULA, nobody should have to read through and re-read a giant block of EULA text in order to feel like a useful contributor. *Reads an actual EULA by AVG*

Yeah, no it doesn't. Most 13-year-old users are capable of reading the policies within a reasonable amount of time and understanding. Also note that it is assumed you have read and agreed to FANDOM's Terms of Use, Privacy Policy, Licensing Terms, and Community Creation Policies before even creating an account and using this website and beyond, and each FANDOM page individually is longer than this wiki's rules and regulations ever will be. If you could read FANDOM's, you can read ours.

GarThorTmk wrote: I suppose I just gotta laugh though, 'cause you guys have been wasting so much time scolding and complaining about me "overreacting" to your actions, it's completely escaped you that you could have pointed me in the direction of the process on "how do I get this approved" instead, and I probably would have been like "thank you, I will go do that now". We'd both be happy, and neither of us would look like jerks... If you mean to approve the page for Kevin's car being restored, there might be none that will satisfy staff for the time being. Perhaps, you can make a voting thread and see if a community consensus can do two things: add a page for Kevin's car or: make the criteria more lenient to allow objects such as Kevin's car get their own page. How this vote is explained and done is up to you with regards to the voting policy.

GarThorTmk wrote: You guys sure have a lot of time on your hands for "volunteers that have no time"... :P The actual quote is "The staff here are volunteers and not everyone has the free time to explain the intricate details of why or why not an edit stays or is reverted." Luckily, I do have the time and care enough to discuss this rather than end the discussion entirely.

I am going back to University in a week, which is when I won't have the time or care to discuss anything like this to the detail that has. Be thankful I am trying for you than trying for myself.

First, I will comment about the page being deleted as you typed. I deleted the page first with the reason being "Housekeeping", which isn't detailed at all. I apologize for this. I should have given more detail to my reasons for deletion. Sharayna has done that for me, and I thank them for the needed assistance. Regarding that you lost your work, do not fear as I say this: the pages can be restored or its deleted contents viewed. Therefore, if you don't want to type out the same content again, contact an administrator or patroller, and they can give you something to copy-paste somewhere more appropriate, such as the Minor Vehicles page.

Other than that, I am hopeful the issue comes to a close. I know this circumstance has upset you, but this is how the wiki has functioned for years. No one has had a big problem, especially specific to this rule on necroposting, as we all know and follow what has worked.

As I mentioned in the previous thread, the rules are not that bad and do not restrict you to speaking a single language or editing only one way. There are ways to still contribute. Staff determined the page is not needed, but the same staff also recommended the content be put onto the Minor Vehicles page instead.

You may dispute this, but a different person can also give a different opinion, in which case you can look for a consensus by speaking to others. The overall point, there are ways you can work around your methods of contributing so it is still in line with the standards expected of the community since 2013.

I won't be commenting on this anymore as I look forward to talking about how we can benefit the wiki further rather than continue to dwell on the mistakes made. Thanks for understanding. I did my best.