Thread:Superluigi6/@comment-25306382-20150102035556/@comment-25306382-20150103001238

Superluigi6 wrote: Jay T. Dawgzone wrote: Superluigi6 wrote: Jay T. Dawgzone wrote: Superluigi6 wrote: Jay T. Dawgzone wrote: Superluigi6 wrote: I don't want to take sides. I believe that here, if someone breaks a rule then that person should be punished. But we need to determine with each of these cases whether it was someone breaking a rule or not.

I took a quick peak at the thread you linked and it seems as if what happened is that you stated that you wanted to be a buero, KnightPearl saw this as a form of begging, and banned you from the chat. In this case, you should not have been banned from the chat. But please confirm with me that that is what happened. I did find a thread about you asking to be a buero.

But here is the confusing part that gives me a headache trying to think about it. I found a thread that you made asking to be a buero. Let's assume that KnightPearl saw this instead as begging. Essentially, Killer said wait until everything is sorted out. Well, there is a thread for KnightPearl applying for admin. So in a way, if your thread was a form of begging, then that means that KnightPearl's thread was begging. So is it begging? I don't know.

In the screenshot (which is very helpful), KnightPearl says "you little punk". I'm going to assume that KnightPearl is calling you a little punk, so please confirm with me about this one as well. Violation of our Rules and Regulations. In this case, KnightPearl should receive a small warning on it.

And in the screenshot, Judgekoo (who has spoken on Killer's thread about this) says "What happened to being mature, Jay?" In this case, you did something that you are not telling me which is the real reason why KnightPearl banned you. In this case, you are either not telling me something important in this case or there was just a simple misunderstanding that I, Judgekoo, or KnightPearl doesn't understand.

You also provided a photo of KnightPearl demoting you. This is just undeniable. I don't know of a rule here that punishes staff who demote others without buero consent, but assuming that Pearl/Killer never knew, I'm willing to estimate that KnightPearl should receive a very strict warning or (might be too strict here) a demotion to chat mod temporarily.

I'm just so emotional now from this Wiki about this case. Some might see it as nothing, but for me it's Lion 3 level. It was a misunderstanding by Judgekoo, I suppose he was trying to convince me to stop fighting with KP. But she kept going on about it, so I tried to stand up for myself. Apparently, that just made it worse and I guess Judgekoo thought that I started this argument in the first place. But if KP would've kept her mouth shut, and not ranted about it on my wall, this never would've happened. So in retrospect, she started it, and a long time ago she said I should be demoted just because I'm twelve (even thought Pearl has given me full permission). And she even complained about me being promoted once (I think its on Pearl's wall or yours)! I will unban you when you offically tell your whole side of the story. No "here's a link to a thread", please tell your side of the story. So far, it seems as if you asked to be a buero, KnightPearl saw that as begging, you offered for truce, and she banned you. I entered the chat, I told KP about the message she sent me, she said don't beg because its the rules, I told her don't post stuff like that on my wall and that I know what the rules are, then she talked about me being underage and how I don't have power and all that and to stop being sassy, I knew I wasn't being sassy and I was just trying to politely tell her to keep her opinion to herself, not rant about it and think she's superior because she's an admin, so I decided to stop talking about it, but she wanted to keep it up, I had to do something, so one thing led to another and I got sick of talking about it so I decided to make a truce, but she refused, I tried again, and she kicks me out, I try a second chance to make a truce, then I get banned, end of story. Okay. What was the message that KP sent you that you stated in the beginning? And one thing leads to another doesn't help us at all. We need to know full details here. It could be from name calling to swearing.

I will unban you now. If drama starts up again, then another chat ban in the future is possible. Thanks, and here, I thought it was going to be apologizing to me or something, but no she unpolitely tells me the rules and threatens to ban me just because she can. Yes I have seen the thread. Admins should never be making bans on users without buero consent. I felt as if I needed to lift your ban, because I thought that it was a little harsh (even though it was only for a couple of days) and if another buero can undo another buero's ban then another admin can undo another admin's ban without buero permission.

Hopefully that last part was right, and hopefully I don't get into trouble for removing a ban. But I felt like it was right. I'm pretty sure Killer will get back on and handle this, hopefully it'll end soon. But thanks for removing the ban!