Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26208943-20150224183255/@comment-26208943-20150303195518

Judgekoo wrote: ReasonAndPearls wrote: Yeah, it's a theory. In that case you should be able to accept the fallacies in it, and respect the arguments against it, rather than trying to point out that your theory is true. It is very unlikely that Lion is Rose. It is indeed a theory though, even if I can't find any proof or evidence to support it anywhere... If there is no evidence or support then it hardly can be considered a theory. It'd be more akin to a simple assumption. An assumption would be an idea thought to be true, this doesn't need a lot of evidence. A hypothesis, to put it simply, is just a scientific guess which can be tested. A theory is a set of principles proven nearly to be true but not quite and is supported by hard evidence. A fact has been repeatedly confirmed and is, in all purposes, is considered true. An opinion is what a person believes in and may not be the same nor will it coincide with others' opinions.

Ok, just to sum up everyones arguments:

Argument: Rose is genderless, therefore can be Lion, who may or may not be male.

Counter-argument: Lion's gender has never been announced but seeing that real life lions display sexual dimorphism, in which male lions have a mane compared to females who do not, we can infer that Lion has a high chance of being a male.

Argument: Lion is pink and has a connection to Steven, therefore Lion is Rose.

Counter-argument:

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Obviously Lion has a connection to Rose but to what extent is unknown. Just because it's pink doesn't necessarily mean it has to be Rose. The Centippetle Mother and The Gem Cave Creature, were two gems that could make creatuers that had the same color palette as them. So the easiest assumption would be that Rose made Lion to be a guardian of sorts to the things she held dear, like Steven.

Argument: Lion can summon Rose's sword.

Counter-argument: We have never seen Lion summon Rose's sword by himself. We could say that Lion himself is just a medium in which Rose's sword can be pulled out by others.

Argument: Rose is not dead, she gave up her physical form to give birth to Steven and her new form is Lion.

Counter-argument: Yep, technically Rose is not dead but is inside her gem. She did give up her physical form for Steven. But she did not make a new physical construct in the form of Lion. The Gem's physical constructs are just an extension of their gems, and where do you think Rose's gem is? With Steven ofc. ''But what about the pink whale inside her room with her voice? ''What about it? Steven was inside the room, it would indirectly place Rose in the room as well, via her gem. She could've easily manipulated the room to ask Steven in the form of a whale.

Also, why would Rose mold herself in the form of a lion who can't speak? If she can project herself outside of her gem, then what's stopping her from doing a form closer to her real appearance and was actually able to communicate, it would've been more practical.

Argument: How'd Steven enter Lion's mane?

Counter-argument: Through portals, durh. Rose was never implied to have the power to teleport nor open portals. This would indicate that Lion is a separate entity that has his own unique abilities.

Argument: Lion's gem is inside his stomach and is never shown.

Counter-argument: This argument just made your assumption have less water than it already had. If Lion's gem is indeed inside his stomach, it would mean that he's another separate gem and not Rose.

Argument: Since Rose's things is in Lion's mane, the theory holds.

Counter-argument: By that logic, each of the Gems' rooms would be them as well, as the rooms of the Gems hold their things.

Argument: If Lion's belly is shown and has gem, he would be Rose.

Counter-argument: Serious question, have you seen the episode "Lion 3: Straight to Video" because if you have. You'd now that Lion's belly has been shown multiple times.

Will continue in the morning, it's 12:20 AM here and I am sleepy.

I never see lion belly showed

also, the fur can hide the gem.

and he summoned the rose sword