Talk:Jungle Moon/@comment-31932515-20180106122011/@comment-31509668-20180111213841

@LukeKun

The issue isn't whether or not that's Pink Diamond. The issue is whether or not that's an accurate depiction of Pink Diamond. Is that what she really looked like? The answer is "no". It's a dream sequence. By definition it isn't reality.

We know this is a dream sequence. Stevonnie wakes up in a giant version of Connie's home back on Earth. Connie's mother, Priyanka, rises out of the carpet talking cryptically on the phone. To Stevonnie she is as tall as a five story building. All of this can be taken as a fairly obvious clue that we have left the bounds of reality for the realm of the surreal. We know what Yellow Diamond looks like and she does not look like her version in the dream. She is a symbolic representation of Yellow Diamond formed by a fusion of Steven's memories of Yellow Diamond and Connie's memories of her mother. If Yellow Diamond is not accurately represented in the dream why would you assume Pink Diamond was? Neither Steven nor Connie know what Pink Diamond actually looks like. The most Steven has is a memory of her mural back at the moonbase.

The murals weren't created two hundred years ago. They were created over five thousand years ago. That's how long it's been since the rebellion that drove the gems from Earth. The moonbase would have been the first thing built because that's where the Diamond in charge of the colony supervised the colonization process. We've seen Blue and Yellow Diamond and can, thus, compare them to their respective murals. The murals accurately depict the shape and placement of the diamond's gemstones, hair shape and overall body type. The gems revere their diamonds as gods. Those murals were created as acts of veneration. While abstract they are portraits and will accurately represent the diamonds. No Diamond would tolerate a portrait that got so important a detail as their gemstone wrong. All four diamonds have the same lozenge shaped gemstone. We know from Blue and Yellow Diamond that the murals show the correct shape and placement of their gemstones. The shape of dream Pink Diamond's gemstone does not match Pink Diamond's mural. Neither does her hair shape. The dream also showed Pink Diamond as tiny compared to Yellow Diamond. It suggests that Pink Diamond was the size of a human. Yet we know from "Steven's Dream" that Pink Diamond's palanquin was the same size as Blue Diamond's which indicates they were of similar stature.

As for Steven's dream of Blue Diamond, do remember that Blue Diamond was on Earth in real time and Steven was telepathically linking to her. There are no Diamonds on the Jungle Moon base. The information Stevonnie was receiving was from the distant past. Also remember that Stevonnie's mental condition was questionable. They'd come through a space battle where they were shot down and stranded on an alien moon. They've been surviving there for days eating native wildlife, dodging predators and trying to get enough sleep. Wilderness survival takes a lot out of you. I know. I did it in the air force. After a couple of days your mind starts being affected. Remember that Stevonnie was in a giant version of Connie's home trying to talk to a giant version of Connie's mother. At no time did they stop to wonder about how strange their situation was. They were acting like this was normal routine in Connie's life. Then they seemlessly shifted into their roles as Yellow and Pink Diamond. As a dream Stevonnie was filtering all of the information they were receiving through Steven and Connie's lives and plugging the gaps with their memories. Nothing we saw in that entire sequence came from an objective source. No recordings. No portraits. No artefacts other than the base itself. Everything we saw happened inside of Stevonnie's head. And we know that right from the beginning Stevonnie put their own spin on what happened.

As for this just being a show, remember that "Steven Universe" is an expensive animated production of a major network. The creative crew is a group of professionals with decades of training and experience under their belts as professional storytellers. There are rules to creative writing and as professionals they know every last one of them or they wouldn't be producing a successful show for Cartoon Network. The Crewniverse presented this as a dream sequence for a reason. If all they wanted to show us was Pink Diamond and her confrontaion with Yellow Diamond they could have had Stevonnie stumble across the base logs and watch them. The logs would be objective and we'd know for certain what Pink Diamond looked like. They didn't go that route. They showed us a dream that took the events that happened on that base and filtered them through Connie and her relationship with her mother. Why? What do they want us to take from Stevonnie's experience on the Jungle Moon? As with any dream we simply do not know what is real and what is symbolic. Disney's "Gravity Falls" was also just a show yet Alex Hirsch crafted a masterpiece that demanded the audience pay attention and apply their full mental faculties to the myriad details that were the clues to "Gravity Falls'" numerous mysteries. "It's just a show" is no longer an excuse for being sloppy or treating your audience like morons even if they are children.