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ALL POSTSWhat if jasper gets a redemption arc and if it happens what would be your reaction 
I will be so angry and sad and happy
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<p>RnR wrote:
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<p>Ashmic wrote:
Dont know if my comment didnt post but Id be pretty irratated if Jasper is redeemed. I get the messaged of the show and such but even by cartoon means it'd be EXTREMELY unrealistic if Jasper is 'reformed'. Not every bad guy can come around, and if they do make him come around then its very bad storywriting.
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<p>This.So much this. I am so sick of the goody goody baby mindset about redemption that's been circling SU. If Japser does get redeemed, there would be no villains, and the protagonists would not be able to grow from the conflicts, and Steven would never learn that there are just some people who can't change and that bugs the crap out of me. </p><p>In fact, I'm convinced that SU is probably gonna end in some lame hug fest rather that dealing in conflict, and all the drama that has been built up would be forgotten like dust in the wind. </p><p>I'm all for the supporting the Crewniverse's writing, but sometimes the lack of drama and conflict that ACTUALLY lasts annoys me... </p> </div> <p>....There are no "real" villains in SU. :) </p> </div> <p>And that is precisely why the show fails in the balance of character types and will continue to fail even more in other categories to point where it becomes unlikable and cringe worthy. </p><p>Of course since there are some people outside of this wiki who believe that that's what the show has been reduced to, with valid points to boot, I'd say I'm merely just repeating criticism </p>
<p>This.So much this. I am so sick of the goody goody baby mindset about redemption that's been circling SU. If Japser does get redeemed, there would be no villains, and the protagonists would not be able to grow from the conflicts, and Steven would never learn that there are just some people who can't change and that bugs the crap out of me. </p><p>In fact, I'm convinced that SU is probably gonna end in some lame hug fest rather that dealing in conflict, and all the drama that has been built up would be forgotten like dust in the wind. </p><p>I'm all for the supporting the Crewniverse's writing, but sometimes the lack of drama and conflict that ACTUALLY lasts annoys me... </p> </div> <p>....There are no "real" villains in SU. :) </p> </div> <p>And that is precisely why the show fails in the balance of character types and will continue to fail even more in other categories to point where it becomes unlikable and cringe worthy. </p><p>Of course since there are some people outside of this wiki who believe that that's what the show has been reduced to, with valid points to boot, I'd say I'm merely just repeating criticism </p>
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<p>There has to be an exception, even this show has to realize when enough is enough, yellow diamond can't be redeemed and neither can the diamond authority. If they redeem the diamonds, unless it's through heroic sacrifice, it'll really piss me off, even phineas and ferb, gravity falls and my little pony knew when enough is enough, this show should do the same.
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There has to be an exception, even the show has to realize when enough is enough, yellow diamond can't be redeemed and neither can the diamond authority. If they redeem the diamonds, unless it's through heroic sacrifice, it'll really piss me off, even phineas and ferb, gravity falls and my little pony knew when enough is enough, this show should do the same.
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<p>You know SU won't do the same. Inevitably, people are gonna want the DA to be redeemed. As long as fans, and by extension the Crewniverse, are so burrowed in the idea that you can just hug and cry your problems away, the story of the show will never grow, the characters will be left as wimps who will rather cry than actually fight back, and the show as whole will become an embarrassment. </p>
<p>You know SU won't do the same. Inevitably, people are gonna want the DA to be redeemed. As long as fans, and by extension the Crewniverse, are so burrowed in the idea that you can just hug and cry your problems away, the story of the show will never grow, the characters will be left as wimps who will rather cry than actually fight back, and the show as whole will become an embarrassment. </p>
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There has to be an exception, even the show has to realize when enough is enough, yellow diamond can't be redeemed and neither can the diamond authority. If they redeem the diamonds, unless it's through heroic sacrifice, it'll really piss me off, even phineas and ferb, gravity falls and my little pony knew when enough is enough, this show should do the same.
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<p>You know SU won't do the same. Inevitably, people are gonna want the DA to be redeemed. As long as fans, and by extension the Crewniverse, are so burrowed in the idea that you can just hug and cry your problems away, the story of the show will never grow, the characters will be left as wimps who will rather cry than actually fight back, and the show as whole will become an embarrassment. </p> </div> <p>Let's not jump to conclusions, well just wait and see what will happen, the writers are definitely smarter than that, even they must know there should be an exception. </p>
<p>You know SU won't do the same. Inevitably, people are gonna want the DA to be redeemed. As long as fans, and by extension the Crewniverse, are so burrowed in the idea that you can just hug and cry your problems away, the story of the show will never grow, the characters will be left as wimps who will rather cry than actually fight back, and the show as whole will become an embarrassment. </p> </div> <p>Let's not jump to conclusions, well just wait and see what will happen, the writers are definitely smarter than that, even they must know there should be an exception. </p>
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<p>RnR wrote:
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<p>Mediawatcher wrote:
There has to be an exception, even the show has to realize when enough is enough, yellow diamond can't be redeemed and neither can the diamond authority. If they redeem the diamonds, unless it's through heroic sacrifice, it'll really piss me off, even phineas and ferb, gravity falls and my little pony knew when enough is enough, this show should do the same.
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<p>You know SU won't do the same. Inevitably, people are gonna want the DA to be redeemed. As long as fans, and by extension the Crewniverse, are so burrowed in the idea that you can just hug and cry your problems away, the story of the show will never grow, the characters will be left as wimps who will rather cry than actually fight back, and the show as whole will become an embarrassment. </p> </div> <p>Let's not jump to conclusions, well just wait and see what will happen, the writers are definitely smarter than that, even they must know there should be an exception. </p> </div> <p>Here's what will happen: More hugging and crying with a cheap payoff at the end of the arc. </p><p>Thus leaving me to believe that I have overestimated the writing of the show. </p>
<p>You know SU won't do the same. Inevitably, people are gonna want the DA to be redeemed. As long as fans, and by extension the Crewniverse, are so burrowed in the idea that you can just hug and cry your problems away, the story of the show will never grow, the characters will be left as wimps who will rather cry than actually fight back, and the show as whole will become an embarrassment. </p> </div> <p>Let's not jump to conclusions, well just wait and see what will happen, the writers are definitely smarter than that, even they must know there should be an exception. </p> </div> <p>Here's what will happen: More hugging and crying with a cheap payoff at the end of the arc. </p><p>Thus leaving me to believe that I have overestimated the writing of the show. </p>
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<p>Well, here I was all ready to discuss my muscle waifu and stuff but now I see everyone is just being Debbie Downers...
</p><p>Cheer up, people!
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<div class="quote"><i>Strong In The Real Way wrote:
Well, here I was all ready to discuss my muscle waifu and stuff but now I see everyone is just being Debbie Downers... <p>Cheer up, people! </p> </i></div>
<p>I dont see people being 'downers', rather worried about the shows route due to the fact many shows start out good but then nosedive due to shotty writing
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Well, here I was all ready to discuss my muscle waifu and stuff but now I see everyone is just being Debbie Downers... <p>Cheer up, people! </p> </i></div>
<p>I dont see people being 'downers', rather worried about the shows route due to the fact many shows start out good but then nosedive due to shotty writing
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<div class="quote">Strong In The Real Way wrote:
Well, here I was all ready to discuss my muscle waifu and stuff but now I see everyone is just being Debbie Downers... <p>Cheer up, people! </p> </i></div>
I dont see people being 'downers', rather worried about the shows route due to the face many shows start out good but then nosedive due to shotty writing
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I know, I was merely pulling your collective legs. </p><p>Personally I feel like the show resolved too much, too quickly. Both the Cluster and Malachite were both literally resolved in the same episode they were encountered: compare this to how long Peridot was messing with and escaping from them! You were literally kept on the edge of your seat "Is this the episode when they'll finally catch her?!" - and when they did, it was a satisfying end to a nice couple of episodes. </p><p>They could've done quite a few episodes with Malachite terrorizing Beach City á la Godzilla or something before a final showdown... </p>
<div class="quote">Strong In The Real Way wrote:
Well, here I was all ready to discuss my muscle waifu and stuff but now I see everyone is just being Debbie Downers... <p>Cheer up, people! </p> </i></div>
I dont see people being 'downers', rather worried about the shows route due to the face many shows start out good but then nosedive due to shotty writing
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I know, I was merely pulling your collective legs. </p><p>Personally I feel like the show resolved too much, too quickly. Both the Cluster and Malachite were both literally resolved in the same episode they were encountered: compare this to how long Peridot was messing with and escaping from them! You were literally kept on the edge of your seat "Is this the episode when they'll finally catch her?!" - and when they did, it was a satisfying end to a nice couple of episodes. </p><p>They could've done quite a few episodes with Malachite terrorizing Beach City á la Godzilla or something before a final showdown... </p>
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<p>Anyone pay attention to what Lapis said in "Same Old World", "after what I did to Jasper", Lapis is admitting she did something bad, she admits she is not the complete victom in this Malachite stuff, I respect that taking responsibiity for that.
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Anyone pay attention to what Lapis said "Same Old World", "after what I did to Jasper", Lapis is admitting she did something bad, she admits she is not the complete victom in this Malachite stuff, I respect that taking responsibiity for that.</i></div>
<p>I've not watched it yet!
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</p><p>- plugs fingers in ears - </p>
Anyone pay attention to what Lapis said "Same Old World", "after what I did to Jasper", Lapis is admitting she did something bad, she admits she is not the complete victom in this Malachite stuff, I respect that taking responsibiity for that.</i></div>
<p>I've not watched it yet!
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</p><p>- plugs fingers in ears - </p>
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