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ALL POSTSWas Bismuth the most controversial episode of SU? 
<p>This is got to be the MOST CONTROVERSIAL STEVEN UNIVERSE EPISODE OF ALL-TIME because it have to do with Bismuth
</p><p>Look at Tumblr's Reaction to that episode. Warning: lots of swears
</p><p>They are angry that Bismuth didn't deserve to be bubbled again and they even agree with her plan of shattered the Homeworld's gemstone with BREAKING POINT!
</p><p>It seem this comment hating on Rose. this user used a cussing word toward Rose. It seem Rose got a worse treatment from Tumblr than Pearl or Peridot! They even called Rose EVIL for keeping Bismuth's whereabouts from Garnet and Pearl which Bismuth was upset about
</p><p>They even started to despise and want to KILL Crewniverse especially Rebecca Sugar
</p><p>Man! This episode got people ANGRY AND DISAPPOINTED. This is the first episode to be considered "Controversial"
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<p>Bismuth <i>was</i> given a chance though, and she made the exact same mistake again.
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<p>And now the stupid tumblr sjws are calling the crewniverse racist for makkng Bismuth who is voiced by a black person, a villain, and saying Rebecca Sugar should just go choke.
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<p>Everywhere that isn't tumblr needs to just stop acknowleging what happens on tumblr. The toxic side of the community needs to be quaranteened off by means of our collective, coordinated apathy.
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<div class="quote"><i>Bunai82 wrote:
Oh yeah, And referring to Steven as a child being hurt by 'bad gems' as an excuse doesn't work, because, as mentioned, Gems who encounter Steven don't see him as a human child, just some weird Gem / Rose Quartz in another form.</i></div>
<p>Oh, you mean like what Bismuth thought when she attacked Steven? </p>
Oh yeah, And referring to Steven as a child being hurt by 'bad gems' as an excuse doesn't work, because, as mentioned, Gems who encounter Steven don't see him as a human child, just some weird Gem / Rose Quartz in another form.</i></div>
<p>Oh, you mean like what Bismuth thought when she attacked Steven? </p>
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Oh man I love it. Tumblr yet again proves to be the living incarnation of horseshoe effect.
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<p>I-Ship-Stevidot wrote:
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<div class="quote">Bunai82 wrote:
Oh yeah, And referring to Steven as a child being hurt by 'bad gems' as an excuse doesn't work, because, as mentioned, Gems who encounter Steven don't see him as a human child, just some weird Gem / Rose Quartz in another form.</i></div>
<p>Oh, you mean like what Bismuth thought when she attacked Steven? </p> </div> <p>Bismuth: It is <i>you</i>, isn't it, <i>Rose</i>? </p><p>It is understandable that the (we as)viewing audience sees Steven Quartz Universe as a child but to Gem characters, with the exception being the Crystal Gems, they do not see a human nor a child. This has to be explicitly explained to them to understand what a human even is and why humans are fragile and important. </p><p>It is stated in canon that Gems come out as they are, they are never children. </p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>Ed486 wrote: Bismuth was given a chance though, and she made the exact same mistake again. </p> </i></div>
<p>This is the fifth time you stated this, I get it. It doesn't mean I am going to agree with you. </p><p>It's my opinion that bubbling Bismuth was stupid. Besides that, she can't do anything to a modernized Homeworld without any actual way of getting there. And it is highly likely that she never saw a Corrupted Gem, so to assume she would <i>shatter</i> it without reason isn't a fair assessment. </p><p>Bismuth was locked away based on her extreme ideals, not her actions. And for all of Steven's sympathetic moments involving lines such as: "<i>try to see this/it from HER point of view</i>", this was not done with Bismuth. </p> <hr><p>In addition, if removing 'guest voices' from the casting will allow future characters to have a part in the show without being a one-note, then so be it. </p>
Oh yeah, And referring to Steven as a child being hurt by 'bad gems' as an excuse doesn't work, because, as mentioned, Gems who encounter Steven don't see him as a human child, just some weird Gem / Rose Quartz in another form.</i></div>
<p>Oh, you mean like what Bismuth thought when she attacked Steven? </p> </div> <p>Bismuth: It is <i>you</i>, isn't it, <i>Rose</i>? </p><p>It is understandable that the (we as)viewing audience sees Steven Quartz Universe as a child but to Gem characters, with the exception being the Crystal Gems, they do not see a human nor a child. This has to be explicitly explained to them to understand what a human even is and why humans are fragile and important. </p><p>It is stated in canon that Gems come out as they are, they are never children. </p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>Ed486 wrote: Bismuth was given a chance though, and she made the exact same mistake again. </p> </i></div>
<p>This is the fifth time you stated this, I get it. It doesn't mean I am going to agree with you. </p><p>It's my opinion that bubbling Bismuth was stupid. Besides that, she can't do anything to a modernized Homeworld without any actual way of getting there. And it is highly likely that she never saw a Corrupted Gem, so to assume she would <i>shatter</i> it without reason isn't a fair assessment. </p><p>Bismuth was locked away based on her extreme ideals, not her actions. And for all of Steven's sympathetic moments involving lines such as: "<i>try to see this/it from HER point of view</i>", this was not done with Bismuth. </p> <hr><p>In addition, if removing 'guest voices' from the casting will allow future characters to have a part in the show without being a one-note, then so be it. </p>
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<p>Gameuser10 wrote:
Why does everyone blame the brain?
</p><p>A broken arm doesn't "make" you commit crime, why should the brain?
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<p>You really need to study mental illness. </p><p>If you think humans are that strong that the very thing that physically motivates the body plays zero part in life decisions then you are way off. </p>
<p>You really need to study mental illness. </p><p>If you think humans are that strong that the very thing that physically motivates the body plays zero part in life decisions then you are way off. </p>
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<div class="quote"> <p>I-Ship-Stevidot wrote: </p><p>
</p> <div class="quote">Bunai82 wrote:
Oh yeah, And referring to Steven as a child being hurt by 'bad gems' as an excuse doesn't work, because, as mentioned, Gems who encounter Steven don't see him as a human child, just some weird Gem / Rose Quartz in another form.</i></div>
Oh, you mean like what Bismuth thought when she attacked Steven?</div>Bismuth: It is <i>you</i>, isn't it, <i>Rose</i>? <p>It is understandable that the (we as)viewing audience sees Steven Quartz Universe as a child but to Gem characters, with the exception being the Crystal Gems, they do not see a human nor a child. This has to be explicitly explained to them to understand what a human even is and why humans are fragile and important. </p> It is stated in canon that Gems come out as they are, they are never children.</div> <p>I misread your post, lol </p><p>I read "and you can't use the Steven is rose excuse, bismuth knew he WaS her son!" As the basic jist, which confused me, since bismuth called Steven "rose" </p>
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</p> <div class="quote">Bunai82 wrote:
Oh yeah, And referring to Steven as a child being hurt by 'bad gems' as an excuse doesn't work, because, as mentioned, Gems who encounter Steven don't see him as a human child, just some weird Gem / Rose Quartz in another form.</i></div>
Oh, you mean like what Bismuth thought when she attacked Steven?</div>Bismuth: It is <i>you</i>, isn't it, <i>Rose</i>? <p>It is understandable that the (we as)viewing audience sees Steven Quartz Universe as a child but to Gem characters, with the exception being the Crystal Gems, they do not see a human nor a child. This has to be explicitly explained to them to understand what a human even is and why humans are fragile and important. </p> It is stated in canon that Gems come out as they are, they are never children.</div> <p>I misread your post, lol </p><p>I read "and you can't use the Steven is rose excuse, bismuth knew he WaS her son!" As the basic jist, which confused me, since bismuth called Steven "rose" </p>
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<p>Bismuth initially went along with the whole "I'm Rose's son and she turned into me" thing at first, but didn't believe him after he said the exact thing Rose did, just seeing it as another lie of hers.
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<p>Reading some of the comments on here..... You know what whether you agree with how the episode ended or not, sending death threats to the writers because you did not like the ending is NEVER ok and cannot ever be justified.
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