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Hello everyone, I just wanted to ask something related to Kingdom Hearts in general and that have to do with Steven Universe, I wonder if the corrupting light that appears in the series where the diamonds were used to corrupt the gems, what effect would it have if it were used in the bearers of the Keyblades and in the rest of the people of the World of Kingdom Hears in general since it must be remembered that it is the corrupting light is a manifestation of an event in theoretical astrophysics known as kugelblitz, which is a concentration of heat, light or radiation (in this case, light) so great in intensity that it is trapped in its own event. horizon, warping the space-time around it. This caused the gems to deform because their bodies are made of light but what would happen to the wearers.
Let's imagine that this happened during the events of Kingdom Hearts X cross or Back Cover during the war for example
Since Steven has already brought peace to all Gem-kind now is the time for Steven to bring balance to all Human-kind.
Using his Gem powers (if he still has his powers) Steven could become one of the greatest Superheroes one Earth and may possibly team up with a group of Human Superheroes to save the world!
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With the ending that the series had, it was very disappointing for me. In response. The following is a What-if arc for the ending of the series.
The Major antagonist should have been a human. A human with an immense hatred toward gems and was formed a grassroots movement & A Red Ribbon - Esque faction dedicated to establishing a sovereign earth policy and the complete deportation of Gems off of Earth. Of course. The human antagonist would call himself The "Commandant" of the faction. To expand more on this storyline, what if he somehow achieved a rock with Gem powers and gave his army homeworld weaponry. To top it all off, The Commandant gets enough support from earth's governments to build a laser to blow up homeworld in retaliation for all Gem Activities (Kindergarten, Spinel's Injector Incident, Lapis's Ocean Tantrum, etc.)
Thus, the final episodes should have been The Crystal Gems versus the Gem weapon equipped anthropocentric paramilitary and Steven brawling with the Commandant, and destroy the laser before it destroys homeworld.
This battle would’ve escalated to the point of the Diamonds getting involved, causing the Commandant to OD on the gem powers and mutate himself, overpowering the gems and the diamonds.
A traumatizing event during the battle such as Greg or Connie getting hurt would’ve triggered a rageful transformation within Steven, causing him to go nuclear on the mutated Commandant. This starts off an epic fight sequence a la Incredible Hulk / Every Anime Ever, turning Beach City into an all-out war zone.
Several things could’ve happened from this point
Connie is healed but is turned into a gem and attempted to calm him down
Pink Diamond is revived within Steven and turns back into her original form to fight the Commandant.
Both Steven and The Commandant become corrupted and have a kaiju battle in the ocean
Either way, Steven, Greg, The Gems and The Diamonds should’ve at least seen Pink Diamond one more time, just to have closure. Of course, it ends with some sort of victory and some sort of treaty is made between gems and Humanity.
If the show ended in this fashion, it would’ve been the perfect sendoff.
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From tackling self struggle to his his own aunts, Steven Universe had tackled nearly everyone in the series. In my opinion, Steven and the gems should have faced a villain they would never expected, not even Garnet: A Human.
This guy would have to be so bad, yet so laughly annyoing, he would make Kevin look like a prissy mamma's boy. Most Importantly, he would hate Steven and The Crystal Gems with a burning passion. With aliens living on the earth and mothering a "alien mutant". this antagonist would be outraged that the citzens of Beach City and the rest of the world is letting this go by. If we were to see little Homeworld, he would be foaming by the mouth.
Bascially his view of himself and everyone else would match that of Frank Grimes and his perspective of the Gems would match Eric Cartman's perspective of the Jewish People.
In turn, throughout the series, he would amass a hidden agenda of dealing with the Gems, while the charecters absent mindedly deal with other problems, They see him a just self righteous nuisance until they see of the horrible things he is willing to do, thus almost bringing forth a Human-gem war on the earth.
Don't worry, there's no redemption arc for him, he would face the consequences at the end.
<p>Ok so reading through this and I get to the part where they mention that besides the influence the Gems have had on the planet besides the drilling for resources and maybe some deity worship, World War II never happened on this Earth.
</p><p>Now for me that means at least three things had to happen:
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- 1: Teddy Roosevelt was elected President, beating out Woodrow Wilson and getting America into the Great War much sooner than in our own timeline.
- 2: As a result of Americans coming in to the Great War sooner, the Russian Duma, which was the elected body that came into power after the February Revolution, kept power and got Russia out of the war thus avoiding the October Revolution and the rise of Lenin socialism which only came into popularity cause Russia stayed in the war.
- 3: Because of the above two conditions there was no harsh reputations against the German people after the Great War and without the fear of radical communism, Hitler would never take the steps to rise to power as part of his platform was stirring up anti communist fears amongst the German people.
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<p>I have an idea. I've come up in my mind that, since Pink's gone she's the first Great Diamond of the past, so I'll called the new settlement "Temple of the Great Diamonds of the Past" would be on Earth or Gem Homeworld. And also when White, Yellow, and Blue Diamond come to Earth with Steven, I think that the other Gems with the Crystal Gems, and Uncorrupted Gems build another palace near Beach City that I called the "Diamond Vacation Palace" and also the new event called "Era 3 Day" at the same place that White announces the Gems and citizens of Beach City to celebrate the day of peaceful era began 2 years ago as Gems and humans became friends. Also during this peaceful Era 3, Gems will make friends to the humans and give them the Warp Whistles so they can play while standing on the Warp pads to travel anywhere, just like Greg did on the episode "House Guest".
</p><p>What do you think? Do you think that Gems will make friends with the humans? Will people can travel anywhere when they're near the Warp pads with the Warp Whistle?
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<p>After Steven, Yellow and Blue Diamond talks to White Diamond, they headed back to Earth. But before that, Steven wondered how Lars is doing so he ordered to go to Yellow Diamond's Asteroid Mines. And when they arrived, he surprised him and the Off Colors and tells them about the truth of his mother. They were shocked that Rose Quartz was Pink Diamond and White hasn't left Homeworld for eons. He tells them that he and the Diamonds tells White about the corrupted Gems on Earth and heading to the same place and Fluorite tells Lars that the nova thrusters and the hyperdrive are fixed and finally the Sun Incinerator, Pink and White Diamond's ships jumped into the hyperspace to head back to Steven's and Lars' home planet of Earth.
</p><p>What do you think for the new story for the next episode?
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<p>I understand if this is just a headcannon, but I've always assumed that the world from SU is our Earth but set 6000 years in the future, placing the Gem colonisation of Earth in our current day, with Garnet's fusion happening in 250 years, and then the end of the war occouring in about 700 or so years. The weird state of the continents and the countries around the world I always blamed on the Gems terraforming the planet with Gems like Lapis Lazuli, or perhaps attacking the Earth to subjugate humanity (the Tunguska Sea in Russia definitely looks like some kind of orbital attack), and when the war ended, humans could pull themselves together again and try to regain a foothold on their own world over the coming 5000 years, which would explain why the humans of SU have such a different religious, political, and cultural world around them. The New World got rediscovered it seemed, Dewey's ancestor even dubbing Beach City to be a country (which probably joined up with different states like Delmarva and Keystone later on).
</p><p>In the recent episode "Can't Go Back", Blue Diamond is scolding Pink for always having an excuse not to work on the colony, one of them being "their cities were too hard to dismantle", which to me proves that either humanity was just more advanced back then than humans were in our timeline, or that the humans back then were humans from our present day, our cities would be harder to dismantle than the cities of 4000 BC in my opinion (though of course perhaps this was an excuse and Pink just didnt want to dismantle them).
</p><p>In short, whilst the AU explanation the crewniverse have told us could be true, I believe it will be revealed to us that SU takes place in the 8000's AD, with the 2000's being when the Gems invade, and that like with other aspects of the show (about a certain character from the recent episodes for instance) they will skew the truth in Q&A's to surprise us with a reveal later on.
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<p>Like from "Lars of the Stars" that the Destiny Destroyer's lasers missed the Sun Incinerator when their shields lowered, so after Pink Diamond resurrected and join the Crystal Gems and form the Crystal Diamond Authority by Pink and Steven, her ship and palaquin back online and have new power to uncorrupt the planet for other Gems. Steven has a new mission that how to get more armies that Homeworld will get back to Earth. So Pink decides to go to her zoo where her entourages: other Rose Quartzes and Famethyst and free the humans. After that they bring the zoo with the Roaming Eyes to nearby planet of Earth. Then the others prepare to build a base under the hill near Beach City and fighters for the entire rebel fleet. Meanwhile, Holly Blue Agate report the Diamonds that Pink has resurect and with the rebels. The Diamonds are shocked and prepare for the another war. Back at the Crystal Base in Beach City, Rhodonite report Steven that Homeworld are back. In space the Homeworld Fleet has arrived. One of the former Zooman says "Incoming message from the Diamond ships." and Steven said, "I'll neogotiate with them. On screen." the Diamonds tell the rebels to surrender but he refused and order them to light up their corrution power and they agreed. After their neogociate, Steven order "Now! Start up the defense shields, so we'll never be corruted again!" Rhodonite put up the defense shields around the Earth then the Diamonds prepare to attack. They fired the light and bounced off the shield and saved. Like from 4,500 years ago that the Earth is unprotected when the light hit on the planet for the Gems. The Gem pilot report that the rebels have the defense shields and the Diamonds were angry.
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<p>I had an idea that maybe Earth is different cus of the Diamonds and Homeworld. Maybe Earth was normal untill the gems, and the Diamonds changed the world, literaly.
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<p>What gave me this idea is from two things:
</p><p>1)In "Rising Tides, Crashing Skies," Ronando is interviewing the Mayor for his Doc. then he misheard Ronaldo saying covering with and quote from the Mayor, "Cover-up? WHAT COVER UP?!" then Ronaldo was "polity" escorted out of Dewey's office. His dirty secret I believe is that he knowledge of a secret military base that's been researching and reverse-engineering gem tech for several years. They may also have locked up gem monsters. Which leads to my other theory.
</p><p>2)In "Beta" and "Earthings" Jasper has dozens of corrupted gems at her disposal. Which pretty quick for her, as in "Crack the Whip" she only has two corrupted gems. but I have reason to believe that jasper has broken into a top secret military base, the one Mayor Dewey has knowledge about, which resulted in many corrupted gems getting loose. With the military too busy having the base quarantined so that no more gem monsters can get out. Jasper is now free to snatch all escaped Gem Monsters. The reason I believed this is because Area 51 in our world is in within proximity to the Beta Kindergarten according to the map in "It Could've Been Great". So between "Crack The Whip" and "Beta", I believe that Jasper broke into the SU version of Area 51, a base where the Govt. has been messing with Gem Tech and keeping Corrupted Gems captured locked up. Which led to Corrupted Gems getting loose and with the military distracted. She was able to hunt them down without inference, and took the Corrupted back to the Beta Kindergarten. I can't really prove this but with Dewey freaking about about a Cover-Up, The real-life Area 51 in proximity to the Beta Kindergarten, and Jasper in just three episodes after "Crack the whip" has dozens of corrupted gems keeps my suspicions about an SU version Area-51 up. We heard about Rose and HW's secrets but what about Mayor Dewey and The Govt.'s secrets. Users, Staff what are your thoughts on this?
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</p><p>My thoughts: I found that the FBI in SU's Earth is called Department of Justice: Federal Bureau.
</p><p>But the question still remains, where were those guys during the various ordeals? For Ex. Cry for Help, where were the feds when Peridot jacked the signal to everyone's television. This signal jacking appears to be global so that means every federal agency from every country should be hunting down Peridot. Because she just jacked the signal from every TV on the planet. Also, It's still the FBI just the I for Investigation replaced Department of Justice. But I digress because for me, I'm personally glad they diddn't show up. and in another discussion, you'll see why I'm glad.
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<p>When I first started watching Steven Universe, two years ago. The only grip I had was in the episode "The Return". I asked to myself is where was the National Guard. Yes, I know now that SU is set in an alternate Earth. But still where was the SU version of the National Guard, as in the Delmarva branch. Now come to think about it where where was the police in all of this? I have a theory why they, the national guard and the police, never showed up to assist the CGs. For the national guard, I believe that Mayor Dewey begged the govener of Delmarva not to send troops to combat this unknown foe, as the soldiers don't know what they're up against. For the police, I think Mayor Dewey, called the chief of Delmarva police to send police officers to block entry to Beach City, with assistance from the Delmarva National Guardsmen. This is where I believe, the national guard and the police were during the whole ordeal. They were busy blocking Beach City from entry, making sure nobody gets in to the town while letting the evacuated out. This seems to make sense to me when I think about it. It's also what I believe it's a good thing the national guard diddn't get involved in the fight against the handship. Think about this, If you were Mayor Dewey would you really want to sent troops to fight the likes of Jasper? As may you may noticed the CGs got wrecked in this episode. In following episode, Jailbreak, the CGs were able to defeat Jasper and Peridot. I could hardly imagine how many lives of the soldiers have been saved just for the national guard not getting involved. Which I believe, it's for the best that the military and the police should not get involved in the CG affairs, for there safety and lives.
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<p>Original discussion: http://steven-universe.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:832063#84
</p><p>Since our ancestors in Steven's earth could have interact with completly different people during the gem war, the possibility of having the same humans becomes almost null, so, the people interacting after the events of the gem war and in the present day are never going to be us, that means, everything they have done in history is completly different to what we have done
</p><p>The only reason why Steven have electricity and stuff is because every tecnological discovery is still leading to the same point, they may not have Tesla or Edison but someone completly different who can't exist in our earth figured out how, because it needs to be that way (a random quote from X-men: Days of the future past gives the closest explanation to what is this, but it's definitely not the same)
</p><p><span style="font-weight:normal;">This means that all humanity advances and political ideas could be completly different, the randomness of this situation give us infinite possibilities, so, WWI can totally happen, but also be a completly different event, still a war, but the causes and consequences never the same, for example</span>
</p><p><span style="font-weight:normal;">In a biological point of view, the "<i>winner sperm</i>" will be a different one, since this biological interaction occurs by randomness, and the moment when it occurs affect what <i>spermatozoon</i> "wins" and etc, so thx to the alien invasion, at least a small number of humans would be different ones from our earth in 4750 b.c, then, centuries later, since the ancestors are not the same, the population on earth is completly different</span>
</p><p><span style="font-weight:normal;">So, my conclusion is that, in the history of humanity, the most important factor to advance is social interaction in a population, a simple example of this is when you're day dreaming and think about what if you have said X instead of Y to someone, then, you would have got completly different chain of events by saying X, this is even more complex in a world where humans are dying or are being kidnapped or are being forced to move to another place, the migration of humanity was an important factor during the history of it, so by changing it you are changing a bunch of events, that include every person who was born before and after</span>
</p><p><span>I feel that this theory works great for any alternate universe with changes in its past in comparission to ours</span>
</p><p><span>What do you think about it?</span>
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<p style="font-weight:normal;margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em;">So in Steven Universe we saw a map of earth and it looked like the diamonds altered it horribly and stuff<figure class="article-thumb tright show-info-icon" style="width: 180px">
<figcaption> <p class="caption">our? planet in the alternate universe</p> </figcaption></figure></p>
<p style="font-weight:normal;margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em;">What if it's actually the opposite and they was trying to do a model of the planet they wanted to destroy?</p>
<p style="font-weight:normal;">They put PD in charge because she needed a planet in that moment for making Rose Quartzes, it will be her first planet as well</p>
<p style="font-weight:normal;">BUT!, they needed a planet with simmilar conditions, the problem was: the planet was so simmilar that it had humans too!</p>
<p style="font-weight:normal;">What if humans (we, or well, same earth but in the future) created the gem race and they are trying to destroy us? But they can't because we are more advanced than them! So the original plan was to model the destruction of our planet by gem harvesting, but then, after the gem war and fearing that some of that gems would join us (like happen on Steven's earth), they created the cluster, so, they need to see if the cluster have succes so they can proceed</p>
<p style="font-weight:normal;">Basically Steven's earth will be less advanced than our earth in this AU</p>
<p style="font-weight:normal;">I thinked about this after seeing a video about more alien races in steven universe, so, what if the only organic life possible is the earthling kind? What do you guys think?</p>
<p style="font-weight:normal;">I'm actually a supporter of Steven's earth being our earth in an alternate universe, just with a different gen pool so the events change drastically during the last 5000 years</p>
<p style="font-weight:normal;">But yeah, what do you think? the gem race is natural or syntetic? who manufactured it?</p>
<figcaption> <p class="caption">our? planet in the alternate universe</p> </figcaption></figure></p>
<p style="font-weight:normal;margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em;">What if it's actually the opposite and they was trying to do a model of the planet they wanted to destroy?</p>
<p style="font-weight:normal;">They put PD in charge because she needed a planet in that moment for making Rose Quartzes, it will be her first planet as well</p>
<p style="font-weight:normal;">BUT!, they needed a planet with simmilar conditions, the problem was: the planet was so simmilar that it had humans too!</p>
<p style="font-weight:normal;">What if humans (we, or well, same earth but in the future) created the gem race and they are trying to destroy us? But they can't because we are more advanced than them! So the original plan was to model the destruction of our planet by gem harvesting, but then, after the gem war and fearing that some of that gems would join us (like happen on Steven's earth), they created the cluster, so, they need to see if the cluster have succes so they can proceed</p>
<p style="font-weight:normal;">Basically Steven's earth will be less advanced than our earth in this AU</p>
<p style="font-weight:normal;">I thinked about this after seeing a video about more alien races in steven universe, so, what if the only organic life possible is the earthling kind? What do you guys think?</p>
<p style="font-weight:normal;">I'm actually a supporter of Steven's earth being our earth in an alternate universe, just with a different gen pool so the events change drastically during the last 5000 years</p>
<p style="font-weight:normal;">But yeah, what do you think? the gem race is natural or syntetic? who manufactured it?</p>
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<p>We seen that WW2 did not happen in this world, what about WW1? Did Central Powers exist? Did UK was that large? Did Russian Empire fell? Did Serbians killed the Austrian archduke or other reason for war?
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-weight:normal;">Hey!, i was looking a SU video and i notice a weird mushroom shaped tree when Lapis tells her backstory in "Same old world"</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-weight:normal;">I knew i have seen that tree before, so i made some research, that tree is a Dracaena draco, according to Wikipedia you can find the largest population of this dudes in Morocco, that's on west Africa</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-weight:normal;">Guess what, in the SU earth that part of Africa is in South America according to this map</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-weight:normal;"><span style="font-weight:normal;">So... yeah, Lapis did that, that's my theory, what do you think? :v</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-weight:normal;"><span style="font-weight:normal;">So... yeah, Lapis did that, that's my theory, what do you think? :v</span></p>
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<p>After watching this, I'm now in panic mode because Navy is now on the loose with the Ruby Ship. Also, if Navy gets her squad and makes it back to Homeworld, Steven, Amestyst, Pearl, Garnet, Lapis, Peridot, Connie and her parents, Greg, Sadie, Lars, Ronaldo, Sour Cream, Onion and his friends, Mayor Dewey, Mr. Smily, Kiki, Jenny, Kofi, Peedee, Buck, Andy, Vidalia, Jamie, Nanefua, Barbara, Marty, Kevin and etc. are doomed. Yes, I listed a bunch of names but take note now with Navy on the loose. The lives of Steven, the Crystal Gems, the citizens of not just Beach City but also the state of Delvara (and possibly the whole world), and the future of Earth and Humanity, all now hang in the balance. A lot more is now at stake, now that Navy has the ship. Personaly, if I was Steven, I'd be panicking right now because the lives of my friends and loved ones are now in danger. What are thoughts on the status of the situation? because for me personally i'm terrified right now, if I was Steven.
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