<div class="quote"><i>Jolmev wrote:
<div class="quote">Nearhza wrote:
<div class="quote">Jolmev wrote:
<div class="quote">Nearhza wrote:
If Bismuth and Jasper fought, Jasper would stand no chance. Watch Garnet's fight with Jasper closely. Like, really really slow the youtube video down and pay close attention. Garnet beat her with ease. Would any of you disagree that Bismuth and Garnet are around the same level in terms of combative ability? i mean, Bismuth really does seem like a powerhouse. In less emotional circumstances, I don't think Steven could've survived for nearly as long as he did in a fight with her.
<p>Bismuth also doesn't need to be redeemed. She's right on basically every issue. If anything, everyone should be apologizing to her for how she's been treated.
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Because taking the war to homeworld where a lot of civilians live peacefully is the best idea of the world
<p>NO, Bismuth was wrong, being in a war doesn't justify her actions, call me a moralist if you want but she was talking about murder people (unless gems can be "unshattered"), she was going to turn the war into something more brutal, Rose's war was to protect the earth, Bismuth's war was to take down the diamonds (YES I KNOW TAKING MADURO, TRUMP, SANTOS, URIBE OR ANY OTHER BAD POLITIC AWAY WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD THING, but, the goal doesn't justify the methods, it must be a better way)
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</div>You're not just a moralist, you're losing your realism if you insist there's a better way. The war was already beyond brutal. Look at the remnants of their battlefield, and how many of the CG are left standing.
<p>Yes, taking the war to homeworld and getting rid of the diamonds was the best thing they could have done to protect earth and secure their own freedom. The proof? Look how the war ended without her advice. With the help of the Breaking Point, more of the Cg's would be around today, less gems would be corrupted, less humans would be sanctioned in Zoos, and more innocent planets wouldn't have to be colonized by the gems, which are an imperial species by nature. The gems are militantly proud of their diamonds and what they do. They know that other life exists on other planets and yet they go along with their destruction anyway. Yes, there are those like Topaz and the Off Colors who don't want to fight, but it's not like Bismuth was trying to kill every homeworld gem. Just the hostile ones.
</p><p>Humans aren't innocent either. We, too, have abused the other lifeforms on this planet, let alone the planet itself. So it's not about morality. It's not about innocense or good or bad or anything like that anymore. It's about fighting for what you care about, and taking any and all means necessary to preserve, lift up, and protect it. From that perspective, Bismuth was completely in the right.
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</div>well my comment was about Bismuth being completly wrong, so is pointless to argue since your argument is too oposite and is right too, simply a point of view, mine is from homeworld perspective "OMG they rebelled and now are going to invade us NOOOOOOOO :c"
<p>war was too brutal already, taking it to homeworld would be the worst, but it still ended very bad thanks to PD being shattered and the consequences of it
</p><p>Pretty sure all the corrupted gems are too disapointed with how the diamonds reacted by dooming them, who didn't do anything to PD and were always loyal to their diamonds, betrayal
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<p>I addressed the homeworld perspective in my comment. I addressed how Bismuth wouldn't harm any innocent gems. The homeworld perspective is no more innocent than the humans. War was already ensuing. You're right. it was already brutal, it was already the worst. So ending the war to prevent the imperical colonization of other species, to protect earth and the life on it, and to free homeworld gems who didn't want to be under the Diamond's rule was the only way to actually make it better. Bismuth wanted to end it all with the breaking point.
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