All posts by Addfire

<p>Hey, I'm just coming in from another wiki that uses both Discussion and Forums. I'd advise against it, simply because Forums can do so much more than Discussions. You can bold, italicize, and underline here... none of which are available with Discussions.  </p><p>All in all, I'm not too sure why Fandom implemented the changes, but they aren't too good. If they changed Forums to be able to do a couple of the things Discussions could do, it'd be much better.  </p>

<p>Look, I'll be honest--  </p><p>I really loved this episode. I never got a chance to see those early space captain Lars clips, but... he's just... <i>too</i> anime. And he's a genuinely good leader, and I'm already shipping him and Emerald...  </p><p>I love it so much.  </p>

<p>But that doesn't make them evil. What they've done has worked. Yeah, not for our intrest, or for those the gems come across, but couldn't one argue that this is just survival of the fittest? I mean, dodos couldn't survive against humans. They were weaker, and died. Other planets (and even earth, without the CGs– or even with the CGs) is weaker, so they die. Gems are biologically (if that applies to inorganic beings) superior.  </p><p>Why should they worry about the weaker creatures?  </p><p>You see, ludexkoo was right when they said that the definition of evil varies, and that definition changes the context of the argument. But in my opinion (in my opinion, contest this if you want) evil is destroying creatures for no reason.  </p><p>The gem's conquest of other planets does not fit that category. The gems are trying to survive- to do so, they have to destroy other planets. They're like parasites, in a sense, but parasites aren't evil. Parasites just try to survive.  </p><p>And Blue is a very positive light to paint Homeworld Gems in. She has at least some decorum, and in The Trial she doesn't want Yellow to shatter Steven, even when he 'admits' to killing Pink. She is somewhat fair. </p><p>And is the zoo that bad? I mean, food, water, nature... light, shelter, no disease... yeah, humans would at first react negatively, they have homes, but later generations, and the generation we see, love it. For good reason. It's a lot better than earth. </p>

<p>Basically the above is what I was trying to get at when I said that it's her culture...  </p><p><s>Ack now I'm jealous of you for saying it better</s> </p>

<p>As User:Femslash-addict stated above, two wrongs don't make a right. I have other things to say but not the time to say them... Maybe later?? </p>

<p>(also, does this wiki do revives?) </p>

<div class="quote"><i>RidleyKraid187 wrote:
Yes. She and the rest of the Diamonds are evil. Her being in emotional turmoil may make her sympathetic (as well as generally pathetic), but it doesn't erase the fact that she is a tall tyrannical emperor who has eradicated life on eight worlds to propagate and expand her empire.</i></div>
<p>Tons of humans have done that. Humanity isn't evil. This is just her culture, a culture that she was raised in. On top of that, she's only threatened to kill/shatter two people: Ruby (for fusing with Sapphire) and Steven (because she believed that Steven shattered Pink).  </p><p>And *she* didn't destroy life on eight worlds. That seems more like Yellow's scene. Blue isn't as combative, Yellow is the fighter.  </p>

<p>Not an entire lifeform, the human zoo is a thing that exists. And don't say that that place is bad, because it really isn't. It's a fantastic-looking place, and the people there love it. Also, look above for the 'shattering Saphire + Ruby' deal.  </p>

<div class="quote"><i>StraightUpMenace wrote:
<div class="quote">Addfire wrote:
'<i>It's really about perspective. We see the Diamonds as evil, because they want to destroy Earth. They don't. From our perspective, Diamonds are evil, and that should include Blue, because she does want Earth destroyed (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong). '</i>Discounting that, god no. She just wants vengeance for Pink Diamond's death. Once she gets that, she won't be a threat (aside from wanting to destroy earth). I'd agree with the above 'neutral' analysis. </i></div>
<p>addfire: the thing is though, most people don't think they're evil from their own perspective. for example, organized crime families just think of what they do as just a business, including the murdering and ruining of countless lives. that still doesn't make someone any less of a scumbag. </p><p>she tried to have ruby and sapphire shattered for fusing on complete accident, so id say thats a pretty horrible thing to do. another thing, blue diamond clearly didn't care about human life, like at all. she and the other diamonds was well aware that there were lifeforms on earth, they were well aware that their colonization of the planet would end up killing millions of people, if not the whole population, and decided to go along with it anyways. that makes them pretty scummy in my book </p><p>meowgatolover: <span style="font-weight:400;">you are correct about not all antagonists not being evil, but blue diamond is not one of those antagonists.</span> </p> <p style="font-weight:400;">an example of a "good guy" antagonist i can think of would be Special Agent Dwight Harris, from The Sopranos. sure, he isn't the nicest man on earth and is very stern and humorless, but ultimately he is devoted to protecting the innocent and making sure that people like tony soprano, a lying murdering borderline sociopath, gets put behind bars for his actions, even if he didn't really succeed in accomplishing his mission</p> </div> <p>Thing is, though, with as much of the show as we've seen, we don't know that much about Homeworld. Peridot adored Yellow Diamond until Peridot began to see things from the Crystal Gem's point of view. We don't really know why Homeworld Gems dislike fusion so much, just that they do (If I recall correctly, Jasper disliked it because it was a "cheap tactic to make weak gems stronger", and it made Peridot uncomfortable, but neither really gave an in-depth explanation of why they disliked it). Maybe fusing is dangerous, or fusions did horrible things in the past. We can't know.  </p><p>On top of that, so what if the Diamonds don't care about Earth? I most certainly don't care about the ants in every anthill, aside from scientifically. And that's what we are to gems: ants. We don't have any powers, we just... run around and yell. There are likely other planets with intelligent life on them, so what's one more? Plus, Yellow's the one who wants Earth destroyed, Blue's just apathetic.  </p>

<p>It's really about perspective. We see the Diamonds as evil, because they want to destroy Earth. They don't. From our perspective, Diamonds are evil, and that should include Blue, because she does want Earth destroyed (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong).  </p><p>Discounting that, god no. She just wants vengeance for Pink Diamond's death. Once she gets that, she won't be a threat (aside from wanting to destroy earth). I'd agree with the above 'neutral' analysis.  </p>

<div class="poem"> <p>"Time is a tool you can put on the wall,
Or wear it on your wrist. The past is far behind us;
The future doesn't exist." </p> </div>

"We are the crystal gems we'll always save the day and if you think we can't we'll always find a way."

"... and then murder their entire families?"

"Insufficient popcorn"

<p>"Twinkle twinkle little star, I wish I knew just what you are. We have your family, little star. You are surrounded." </p>

<p>"Juggling, we could juggle, and juggle our cares away!" </p>

<p>"I am the left brain, I am the left brain, work very hard till my inevitable death brain." </p>

"Nous n'y jouons pas."

<p>"Name a red fruit- ... Apple?" </p>

"Hee hee hee... Apex predator."