ruby, jasper (and malachite) are problably male gender pronun but take a female body, and a female voice.
lets analysis:
ruby - she acts like a boy, rude like a boy.
jasper - just...look at its personality.
malachite - for being jasper's fusion....
ruby, jasper (and malachite) are problably male gender pronun but take a female body, and a female voice.
lets analysis:
ruby - she acts like a boy, rude like a boy.
jasper - just...look at its personality.
malachite - for being jasper's fusion....
Sure. Feminine gender is the best to identify them, why not?
yeah, no you don't. You see a rock and like EVERY PERSON say "oh a rock" you don't assign a gender to a rock, period. Gems are genderless sexless beings as confirmed by the CREATOR of the show and people need to accept this.
They act like female, pronoun as female, look like female.
Gender is all these things in a couple.
Btw, Rebecca just confirmed that they're sexless, not genderless.
So many people on this wikia are confusing "sex/sexless" with "gender/genderless"
Sorry, if you can't accept my opinion, I will probably stop arguing. Also sorry for my grammar, I'm still working on that part.
Gender is all these things in a couple.
Btw, Rebecca just confirmed that they're sexless, not genderless.
So many people on this wikia are confusing "sex/sexless" with "gender/genderless"
Sorry, if you can't accept my opinion, I will probably stop arguing. Also sorry for my grammar, I'm still working on that part.
i'm not confused on gender and sex it's just i'm aware that gems don't identify as either. So i'm going to break this down for you. looking female: coincidence because there was a 50/50 chance we'd see them as male or female if they took on humanoid form. act female: no such thing as acting like a female because that is socially constucted. if they were shaped as what we see as male i bet you wouldn't say they act female even if they acted the same. using female pronouns: they are using our language and they are aware that to humans they look female so it would make logical sense to use female pronouns for human's sake. this whole conversation started because YOU decided to argue with my comment so don't pretend like i'm being irrational in defending my comment. it is stated fact by the person who created the show that they are just gems not females or males (except steven who is half human). you can have WHATEVER opinion you want to but don't try to argue against my opinion if at the end of the day your opinion does not match up to what Rebecca Sugar says is fact because that means your opinion is objectively wrong. but yeah do you.
oh and stevonnie is not transgender. transgender means that their sex and gender identification do not match up (i.e male body but identifies as female) and this does not describe stevonnie.
So for future reference before you go condescendingly trying to educated someone please PLEASE get your facts straight and use actual logic founded in facts not just whatever you FEEL is correct.
rant concluded
- the gems are sexless and genderless
- sex =/= gender
- pronoun choice =/= gender
- the way they act =/=gender
- the character design and overall look =/= gender
- the only male "gem" is steven, only because he is half human
i hope i covered everything
- The gems are sexless, but they're have gender (it's feminine)
- sex =/= gender (you're right here)
- pronoun choice + the way they act + the character design and overall look = gender (it can be feminine (all gems and human women in the show), masculine (Greg, Steven and the others), transgender (like Stevonnie for me) or genderless (if someone looks like the pufferfish or the ice monster)):P
- biological sex = sex (it can be male (Steven — confirmed), female (all human women in the show), transsex (I don't even want to think about this) and sexless (all aliens in the show — gems, corrupted gems, some gem creatures...)):P
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Steven is the first and only male Gem, because he is half human!
Technically, there are no female Gems! There are only Gems! " (http://www.reddit.com/user/RebeccaSugar)
- hey now..i use he/she/them pronouns because i couldn't care less, i do not act like a boy OR a girl, my body looks somewhere inbetween and i choose not to dress feminine or masculine and what does that make me? a void? there are so many people out there who do the same as me so no. pronoun choice, appearance, is NOT your gender. you dont walk up to a girl who dresses somewhat masculine and tell her "hey you look like a boy so youre a boy".
-feminine is not a gender. feminity is a social construct created by cissexist people who think "girls dress like this, look like this, act like this and talk like this. if you are a girl and you dont look like this, youre a freak."
-transsex??????????? do you mean transgender? transgender is not a gender either its just an umbrella term for those who arent cisgender
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"There are no female Gems" "Steven is the first and only male Gem": there are also no male Gems. Ruby is a Gem. Jasper is a Gem. Also, both are voiced by women. Also, Ruby isn't young. She's at the very least 5000 years old, and anyways how would you identify as "young"?
Playing devil's advocate here since I do think it's silly to try to define a race of alien shape shifting life forms whose bodies are composed of energy with human genders and that ultimately you can call them he, she, or it and the pronouns would all be equally accurate, but being voiced by a woman doesn't mean anything. Young boys are often voiced by women since there's no fear of the actor's voice changing radically due to puberty, the Japanese voice actor for Goku is a woman, three of the four (five if you count Team Four Star) English voice actors of Frieza were women.
- the gems are sexless and genderless
- sex =/= gender
- pronoun choice =/= gender
- the way they act =/=gender
- the character design and overall look =/= gender
- the only male "gem" is steven, only because he is half human
i hope i covered everything
- The gems are sexless, but they're have gender (it's feminine)
- sex =/= gender (you're right here)
- pronoun choice + the way they act + the character design and overall look = gender (it can be feminine (all gems and human women in the show), masculine (Greg, Steven and the others), transgender (like Stevonnie for me) or genderless (if someone looks like the pufferfish or the ice monster)):P
- biological sex = sex (it can be male (Steven — confirmed), female (all human women in the show), transsex (I don't even want to think about this) and sexless (all aliens in the show — gems, corrupted gems, some gem creatures...)):P
Steven is the first and only male Gem, because he is half human!
Technically, there are no female Gems! There are only Gems! " (http://www.reddit.com/user/RebeccaSugar)
- hey now..i use he/she/them pronouns because i couldn't care less, i do not act like a boy OR a girl, my body looks somewhere inbetween and i choose not to dress feminine or masculine and what does that make me? a void? there are so many people out there who do the same as me so no. pronoun choice, appearance, is NOT your gender. you dont walk up to a girl who dresses somewhat masculine and tell her "hey you look like a boy so youre a boy".
-feminine is not a gender. feminity is a social construct created by cissexist people who think "girls dress like this, look like this, act like this and talk like this. if you are a girl and you dont look like this, youre a freak."
-transsex??????????? do you mean transgender? transgender is not a gender either its just an umbrella term for those who arent cisgender
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Question, do you know the difference between sex and gender? Because reading from your statements it feels like it's as if you don't.
"Sex" refers to the biological and physiological characteristics that define men and women. "Gender" refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, activities, and attributes that a given society considers appropriate for men and women. To put it another way: "Male" and "female" are sex categories, while "masculine" and "feminine" are gender categories
Femininity is a gender. Gender delineates what is "masculine" and "feminine". Yes femininity is a social construct but it is also attributed by biological factors, it was coined in the medieval era in which people were still pretty sexist but the term stuck around.
Then the girl isn't feminine, simple as that. It doesn't make her less of a girl. A boy who still sees himself as a boy, prefers to play with dolls, dress in pink because it's his favorite color, keeps his hair long, does this make him any less of a boy? No! It's just he isn't masculine by the standards of society. That's were the difference between gender and sex becomes apparent. Society and culture constructs what is "feminine" and "masculine" but both of these does not equate to someone's sex.
Dear Lord, you are relentless. Transsex isn't short for transgender (though it is quite apparent, I don't know how you missed it), it's short for transSEXUAL. A person who transitions from one sex to the other. Transsexual people feel they are born in the wrong body and they wan't to change that either by hormones or surgery. Transgender is when their expression, behavior, or general sense of self does not conform to what is usually associated with the sex they were born in the first place.
http://rebeccasugar.tumblr.com/post/113764004948/does-ruby-use-male-or-female-pronouns-since-it-a
Can we PLEASE stop perpetuating sexism in this post! "Rude like a boy" doesn't make someone a boy. How you act has nothing to do with your gender or the pronouns you choose.
If you want to discuss the gender of the gems.. AGAIN, please do it in another post. I am going to close this thread as the discussion has been solved by Rebecca Sugar and the premise for the discussion was quite offensive.