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  • Lilduders
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    14:51, March 22, 2015

    I mean Rose gave up her physical form to create Steven, but no other species seem to give up their physical form to produce young. So why do Crystal Gems give up their physical form to produce young?

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    • Eh, maybe to conceive a child with a human being, the gem has to pass on their genes....Or something-I don't want to think right now...

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    • I think it's because gems and crystals take hudreds of years to form, so for a gem to be in labor for a thousand something years, wouldn't exactly be neccessary. So, they give their child their gem. OR Steven was dying and rose decided to give him her magic so he would be able to heal somewhat like a gem would.

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    • Read my second post on Gem anatomy topic for my theory on this subject. That theory does not account on how gem produces young on their own due to little knowledge about Gems.

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    • I don't think it applies to every gem. I agree with Accapello. But, maybe Steven would've died (Maybe from some highly dangerous illness) if it weren't for Rose giving him her gem.

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    • Like I said previously, "That theoy does not account on how gems produce young on thier own.". My theory was more directly towards a Gem/Human birth. Accapello's theory is very good as well though. Who knows how exaclty they produce more young on thier own.

      They could use gems from other gem creatures (like the Centipeetles mother) to produce young for all we know. *shrugs*

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    • Rebecca Sugar stated that Gems don't reproduce naturally. That's all I know.

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    • LarsMars wrote:
      Rebecca Sugar stated that Gems don't reproduce naturally. That's all I know.

      Yes, that is the only fact we know of. With little information about the Gems we can only theorize. I do know that a species that can't generate more of thier kind will soon face extinction.

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    • Maybe to have a baby they need to give the baby there gem for it to survive, which is probably why Pearl Garnet and Amethyst don't date often.

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    • About the giving Steven the gem to live thing, remember the 2nd episode guys. "She gave up her physical form TO BRING YOU INTO THE WORLD." -Greg Anyways, that mean that she MADE HIM pretty  much.

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    • Since gems don't reproduce, it's entirely possible that Steven is the first gem to ever be born and Rose didn't even know that she had to give up her physical body in order to bring Steven into the world.

      As for why they might need to give up their physical bodies...

      Since gems don't have the abilty reproduce, it's possible Rose created Steven with the power of her gem and allowed him to become the default product of creation when regeneration occurs. 

      So Rose (And Greg) created Steven and Rose allowed him to become the default appearance and consciousness the gem loads upon regeneration, she just needed to force herself to retreat into her gem and upon regeneration Steven took her place.

      I do believe that Rose is still alive within Steven's gem but since her physical body cannot occupy the same space as Steven's body; she can't regenerate until his gem is removed from his body.

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    • Sharayna wrote:
      Since gems don't reproduce, it's entirely possible that Steven is the first gem to ever be born and Rose didn't even know that she had to give up her physical body in order to bring Steven into the world.

      As for why they might need to give up their physical bodies...

      Since gems don't have the abilty reproduce, it's possible Rose created Steven with the power of her gem and allowed him to become the default product of creation when regeneration occurs. 

      So Rose (And Greg) created Steven and Rose allowed him to become the default appearance and consciousness the gem loads upon regeneration, she just needed to force herself to retreat into her gem and upon regeneration Steven took her place.

      I do believe that Rose is still alive within Steven's gem but since her physical body cannot occupy the same space as Steven's body; she can't regenerate until his gem is removed from his body.

      I was thinking that too. My theory was that Steven is her prison, just as Lapis's prison was the mirror, and can't regenerate because if she did her body would merge with Steven's. So if someone pulled the gem out of Steven's body, Rose would regain her physical form.

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    • A theory that I love and read elsewhere is that Rose intentionally gave up her physical form to have Steven be half-gem and half-human. This was done to allow him to bridge the gap between Gem and human kind, as there seems to be an underlying conflict going on there, and being both Gem and human, he'd be the most likely to be able and do what Rose couldn't, which is connecting both species.

      I also agree that Rose is likely still in Steven's gem.

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    • Lilduders wrote:
      A theory that I love and read elsewhere is that Rose intentionally gave up her physical form to have Steven be half-gem and half-human. This was done to allow him to bridge the gap between Gem and human kind, as there seems to be an underlying conflict going on there, and being both Gem and human, he'd be the most likely to be able and do what Rose couldn't, which is connecting both species.

      I also agree that Rose is likely still in Steven's gem.


      I feel stupid

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    • Lilduders wrote:
      A theory that I love and read elsewhere is that Rose intentionally gave up her physical form to have Steven be half-gem and half-human. This was done to allow him to bridge the gap between Gem and human kind, as there seems to be an underlying conflict going on there, and being both Gem and human, he'd be the most likely to be able and do what Rose couldn't, which is connecting both species.


      I can't really see there being a conflict between Gem and human kind. If there was we would know about it by now, especially since Beach City has been threatened countless times by Gem creations and--as far as we know--nobody even cares enough about it to defend themselves or take even the slightest action to be alert to these things.

      If there's any conflict here it's between the Crystal Gems and the Gems from the other planet(s).

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    • and the corrupted Gems..

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    • Hypernova3333 wrote:
      and the corrupted Gems..

      I think that they could've somehow cracked their gem, which would've resulted in their body deforming to look like a monster, and would've forgotten their life as a Gem.

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    • I haven't seen one corrupted Gem with a cracked gemstone yet.

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    • Sharayna wrote:
      I haven't seen one corrupted Gem with a cracked gemstone yet.


      Good point...

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    • Hypernova3333 wrote:
      Sharayna wrote:
      I haven't seen one corrupted Gem with a cracked gemstone yet.

      Good point...

      What confuses me is how they became corrupted, I'm thinking by the same theory as I said before or by magic.

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    • Jay T. Dawgzone wrote:
      Hypernova3333 wrote:
      Sharayna wrote:
      I haven't seen one corrupted Gem with a cracked gemstone yet.

      Good point...
      What confuses me is how they became corrupted, I'm thinking by the same theory as I said before or by magic.


      Yea... thats  yet to be discovered

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    • Gems aren't stong enough to concieve a child like humans do, so they reproduce by giving their physical form and passing on their gem. But her husband was Greg so Steven was half Gem half human

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    • In the trailer for the series, the announcer states that the Crystal Gems are born from magical gems. My theory is that Rose is the first gem to ever reproduce, and the reason is unknown.

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    • I think Rose knew that Gems couldn't reproduce so she and Greg decided to adopt a child instead. So when Steven was really young he was either severely injured or starting to die, Rose gave him her gem so he could survive, but at the cost of her "physical form".

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    • Jay T. Dawgzone wrote:
      I think Rose knew that Gems couldn't reproduce so she and Greg decided to adopt a child instead. So when Steven was really young he was either severely injured or starting to die, Rose gave him her gem so he could survive, but at the cost of her "physical form".


      I feel like ppl are forgetting about "Laser Ligth Cannon" Remember Greg SAYS she gave up her form to BRING HIM INTO THE WORLD

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    • Hypernova3333 wrote:
      Jay T. Dawgzone wrote:
      I think Rose knew that Gems couldn't reproduce so she and Greg decided to adopt a child instead. So when Steven was really young he was either severely injured or starting to die, Rose gave him her gem so he could survive, but at the cost of her "physical form".

      I feel like ppl are forgetting about "Laser Ligth Cannon" Remember Greg SAYS she gave up her form to BRING HIM INTO THE WORLD

      I know, peoples always like with theories than reality...

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    • FinnManusia wrote:
      Hypernova3333 wrote:
      Jay T. Dawgzone wrote:
      I think Rose knew that Gems couldn't reproduce so she and Greg decided to adopt a child instead. So when Steven was really young he was either severely injured or starting to die, Rose gave him her gem so he could survive, but at the cost of her "physical form".

      I feel like ppl are forgetting about "Laser Ligth Cannon" Remember Greg SAYS she gave up her form to BRING HIM INTO THE WORLD

      I know, peoples always like with theories than reality...

      Yeah so? Its my theory, so don't judge me.

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    • Your theory was debunked in episode two. Greg states that Rose gave up her physical body to bring Steven into the world.

      A theory isn't something to hold on to or defend when it's debunked. A theory needs supporting evidence or it's just a headcanon. Neither can truely exist when there's a fact that disproves them.

      Rose had healing powers, she probably could have saved Steven if he was ill or injured. She wouldn't have to give up her gem to save him because it probably wouldn't work, Steven still has a human body and his physical body would be destroyed. Since a Gem's holographic body and a physical body can't exist in the same space, Steven would never be able to regenerate a new holographic body.

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    • Sharayna wrote:
      Your theory was debunked in episode two. Greg states that Rose gave up her physical body to bring Steven into the world.

      A theory isn't something to hold on to or defend when it's debunked. A theory needs supporting evidence or it's just a headcanon. Neither can truely exist when there's a fact that disproves them.

      Rose had healing powers, she probably could have saved Steven if he was ill or injured. She wouldn't have to give up her gem to save him because it probably wouldn't work, Steven still has a human body and his physical body would be destroyed. Since a Gem's holographic body and a physical body can't exist in the same space, Steven would never be able to regenerate a new holographic body.

      Well then what Rose did makes no sense.

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    • Jay T. Dawgzone wrote:
      Sharayna wrote:
      Your theory was debunked in episode two. Greg states that Rose gave up her physical body to bring Steven into the world.

      A theory isn't something to hold on to or defend when it's debunked. A theory needs supporting evidence or it's just a headcanon. Neither can truely exist when there's a fact that disproves them.

      Rose had healing powers, she probably could have saved Steven if he was ill or injured. She wouldn't have to give up her gem to save him because it probably wouldn't work, Steven still has a human body and his physical body would be destroyed. Since a Gem's holographic body and a physical body can't exist in the same space, Steven would never be able to regenerate a new holographic body.

      Well then what Rose did makes no sense.


      EXACTLY. What she did was unsual.

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    • Sharayna wrote:
      Your theory was debunked in episode two. Greg states that Rose gave up her physical body to bring Steven into the world.

      A theory isn't something to hold on to or defend when it's debunked. A theory needs supporting evidence or it's just a headcanon. Neither can truely exist when there's a fact that disproves them.

      Rose had healing powers, she probably could have saved Steven if he was ill or injured. She wouldn't have to give up her gem to save him because it probably wouldn't work, Steven still has a human body and his physical body would be destroyed. Since a Gem's holographic body and a physical body can't exist in the same space, Steven would never be able to regenerate a new holographic body.

      Actually if he was sick and she had to save him, I don't think that she could cry and heal him before he was born, and If you mean after he was born, even that is invalid because "To bring him into the world" Means literal birth so maybe it was impossible for her to stay because she might have had to produce a gem for steven himself or reproduce with a gem in the first place (Which is unlikely because as stated my Rebacca, they do not reproduce and what rose did was very rare).

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    • Accapello wrote:
      Sharayna wrote:
      Your theory was debunked in episode two. Greg states that Rose gave up her physical body to bring Steven into the world.

      A theory isn't something to hold on to or defend when it's debunked. A theory needs supporting evidence or it's just a headcanon. Neither can truely exist when there's a fact that disproves them.

      Rose had healing powers, she probably could have saved Steven if he was ill or injured. She wouldn't have to give up her gem to save him because it probably wouldn't work, Steven still has a human body and his physical body would be destroyed. Since a Gem's holographic body and a physical body can't exist in the same space, Steven would never be able to regenerate a new holographic body.

      Actually if he was sick and she had to save him, I don't think that she could cry and heal him before he was born, and If you mean after he was born, even that is invalid because "To bring him into the world" Means literal birth so maybe it was impossible for her to stay because she might have had to produce a gem for steven himself or reproduce with a gem in the first place (Which is unlikely because as stated my Rebacca, they do not reproduce and what rose did was very rare).

      Gems' gemstones is all Gems really need to survive. So for Rose, she could've made reproductive organs through shapeshifting, but a Gem needs a gem to live, so Rose would have to give up her gem and holo-projected physical form to have Steven.

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    • MayorOfTaildale
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      It's quoted for some reason, i'm just going to fix that.
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    • Could it be in a similar way to how when they fuse they become a single gem? Except, of course, that rather than multiple gems, only Rose's gem is stored within Steven.

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    • Sugilite

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    • my thought is that you can't have the same gem exist physically. 

      But garnet has 2! although she has two they both have different facets one square ne triangle

      maybe for rose and steven, when gems have offspring they exist with the passed down gem just not physically but maybe energy concealed in the gem. 

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    • CloudFarts wrote:
      my thought is that you can't have the same gem exist physically. 

      But garnet has 2! although she has two they both have different facets one square ne triangle

      maybe for rose and steven, when gems have offspring they exist with the passed down gem just not physically but maybe energy concealed in the gem. 

      these were kind of my thoughts, as well.

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    • I have a theory where it is possible for gems to reproduce with other species, but the resulting offspring wouldn't be gems themselves. My basis for this is the idea that a gem's true body is literally their gem; the human-like forms we see are merely convenient extensions created by the jewels. Given their versatile transformation abilities, I don't think it would be a stretch for them to replicate human reproductive organs in these bodies as well.

      The reason Rose gave up her gem to create Steven might be a more personal matter. Just because a gem can have children doesn't mean that its necessarily a good idea. She would know fully well that, as a gem, she would live on agelessly for centuries if not millennia while Greg and a human Steven would die in a matter of decades. Not wanting to bear this pain, she chose to pass on her gem to Steven and disappear instead.

      Probably a shot in the dark, but that's my idea.

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    • maybe gems have only one gem and this raises baby baby have the mother/dad gem and gem with no gem loses physical form

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    • Alano12 wrote:
      maybe gems have only one gem and this raises baby baby have the mother/dad gem and gem with no gem loses physical form

      I was thinking that too, because all Gems need their gems to live. So Rose would've somehow given up her's to Steven.

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    • The Gem is basically the actual physical body of a Gem because their 'humanoid' bodies are just holograms/illusions.

      Most likely the only way to kill a Gem is by destroying their Gemstone (Given the amount of worry the Crystal Gems displayed when Amethyst cracked her Gemstone). Since the rose quartz stone is still in tact, Steven's basically wearing his mother on his stomach. 

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    • Sharayna wrote:
      The Gem is basically the actual physical body of a Gem because their 'humanoid' bodies are just holograms/illusions.

      Most likely the only way to kill a Gem is by destroying their Gemstone (Given the amount of worry the Crystal Gems displayed when Amethyst cracked her Gemstone). Since the rose quartz stone is still in tact, Steven's basically wearing his mother on his stomach. 


      ok that ending... that just sounded weird.... XD XD XD XD Wearing his mom XD XD that sounds really weird when u say it out loud

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    • Hypernova3333 wrote:
      Sharayna wrote:
      The Gem is basically the actual physical body of a Gem because their 'humanoid' bodies are just holograms/illusions.

      Most likely the only way to kill a Gem is by destroying their Gemstone (Given the amount of worry the Crystal Gems displayed when Amethyst cracked her Gemstone). Since the rose quartz stone is still in tact, Steven's basically wearing his mother on his stomach. 


      ok that ending... that just sounded weird.... XD XD XD XD Wearing his mom XD XD that sounds really weird when u say it out loud

      Yeah, it does.

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    • Sharayna wrote:
      I haven't seen one corrupted Gem with a cracked gemstone yet.


      Rose tried to heal / tame them, maybe she was able to fix the crack with her tears but wasn't able to fix the inner corruption. Gems take the physical shape of who they are and what they're like (personality, actions,beliefs & driven...); It is possible that a gem if lived in the corrupted state for too long ends up in the change of it's personality (bit by bit) also changing the outside aspect, then when the gem gets "healed" it only fixes the crack not the persona. I believe that is why those gems appear as monsters, that new appereance seems to "fit" better with their new personality.

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    • Humberto.cruces.94 wrote:
      Sharayna wrote:
      I haven't seen one corrupted Gem with a cracked gemstone yet.

      Rose tried to heal / tame them, maybe she was able to fix the crack with her tears but wasn't able to fix the inner corruption. Gems take the physical shape of who they are and what they're like (personality, actions,beliefs & driven...); It is possible that a gem if lived in the corrupted state for too long ends up in the change of it's personality (bit by bit) also changing the outside aspect, then when the gem gets "healed" it only fixes the crack not the persona. I believe that is why those gems appear as monsters, that new appereance seems to "fit" better with their new personality.


      no monsters are gems with broken gemstone maybe broken gemstone's make's the crystal gem is evil

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    • Alano12 wrote:

      Monsters are Gems with broken gemstones. Maybe broken gemstones make the Gem evil?

      Not one of the crystal gem monsters we've seen yet has had a broken or even cracked gemstone. We even seen that Gems with broken gemstones can still manifest their humanoid forms.

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    • Actually I think that Rose was the only one to create an offspring, because Rebecca confirmed that what Rose did was rare

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    • Maybe when Rose retreated to her gem, she used some male genes or DNA to make Steven when she was ready to regenerate.

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    • Jay T. Dawgzone wrote:
      Maybe when Rose retreated to her gem, she used some male genes or DNA to make Steven when she was ready to regenerate.

      Greg is Stevens' DAD for a reason. Bedsides it's been confirmed that Rose HAS to be half of Steven, so when ever he gets really good advice out of no where inside his thoughts and dreams, it's really just Rose being a mother.. Inside . Of - him :I

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    • Its kinda sad that steven 

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    • Didnt get a chance to meet his mom in person

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    • Maybe the gem is what keeps them in the physical world and the only way for her to give birth to him was by giving him her physical body. So she still exists inside him but is a past life in a way.

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    • Harlquin19 wrote:
      Maybe the gem is what keeps them in the physical world and the only way for her to give birth to him was by giving him her physical body. So she still exists inside him but is a past life in a way.

      Please don't comment on threads where the comment is older than 14 days.


      SoManyBirthdaysPreview10Finn Manusia MalaysiaLapis healed 16:35, March 21, 2015 (UTC)

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