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  • I mean, come on. we are never given a definite answer on this. plus, there are like 5 cg and a trillion hg. and peri says that the homeworld abandoned the earth, rather than lost it.

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    • That's a good point, perhaps homeworld got sick of the fighting and just decided to give up on Earth (and then secretly use it to grow their cluster experiments and geo weapon). Or perhaps that's just what the diamonds said happened and the reason why Earth isn't a gem colony, maybe they didn't want to admit that they lost to a group of rebels to discourage any other gems wanting to rebel against homeworld because then they'd think they have no chance of winning if they did.

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    • Sookey5 wrote:
      I mean, come on. we are never given a definite answer on this. plus, there are like 5 cg and a trillion hg. and peri says that the homeworld abandoned the earth, rather than lost it.

      There had to be more than 5 CGs because there was that one episode with the strawberry field where they were talking about all the gems that were cracked, and Garnet freaking out over the cluster when she realied that it was partially made up of dead CGs.

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    • I believe the Crystal Gems "won" the battle at Strawberry Battlefield but lost the War. The reasons being that there are only Rose, Pearl and Garnet left of the Original Crystal Gems, there might of been some others but they've since fallen due to battle damage or PTSD and then corrupted. Secondly Pearl seems to only has fond memories of the battle at Strawberry Fields seen in the flashback during Sworn to the Sword, due to it being their only victory. Thirdly as Greg said about Rose "She could only save some of her closest friends" these obviously being Pearl and Garnet (and maybe some others), I believe this could be because overall due the Crystal Gems certain future of failing to win the war they might of performed a Final Gambit causing the mass killing of the Crystal Gems, and this battle could of been the one at Strawberry Fields or most likely some other time afterwards... Although another theory is that Homeworld could of found the Crystal Gems and shattered them as we don't know when Homeworld learned of Force Fusion but since they'd need Gem Shards and Homeworld would go up in uproar if they used Homeworld Gems they sought out the Crystal Gems to shatter and use. Along with this continuing on from Rose could only save her closet friends perhaps Homewolrd after loosing to the Crystal Gems at Strawberry Fields decided to unleash a "tactical nuke" to destroy the Gems, meaning Rose would need to save her closest friends and to why Homeworld didn't realise there where Gems left on Earth, and the show has given us evidence to what could of been this "tactical nuke" examples being the Geode and the glowing orb at the Moon Base...

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    • The reason Pearl has 'fond' memories is because she tries to tell Steven as little as possible about the war and Homeworld. She interrupted Garnet when she was saying how thousands of gems died there by saying "but we won!" and gets angry at Amethyst for showing Steven the kindergarten as that was the whole reason the war was started in the first place. Garnet, Amethyst and Greg have all told Steven some part of the war or the history of the CG's without taking out all the hardship while Pearl sticks to telling him the 'lighter' side of it.

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    • True, Pearl is pretty biased in her descriptions of the Rebellion. It's mostly just because of her love for Rose - you wouldn't want to taint the reputation of the Gem you looked up to most in front of that Gem's child, right? However, assuming it takes at least 3 Crystal Gems to take down one Homeworld Gem, then the Crystal Gems would have had to have a lot of Gems on their side. This was actually the most probable case, since we've seen a lot more lower-class Gems, like Rubies and Pearls, on Homeworld. If all these lower-class Gems supported the Crystal Gems, then at least 50-70% of Homeworld's population would be against Homeworld itself. Add that to the minority of upper-class Gems that would support the CGs and you'd most likely get 80%, too. Thus, it'd be a battle of numbers versus power. If Homeworld stuck to its practice of disallowing fusions that were not for combat purposes, then the Crystal Gems would have a blissful advantage, not only because Rose letting the Crystal Gems fuse and live in peace with the humans on Earth boosted their morale far beyond what Homeworld could offer, but also because it would drive those Gems to stop the injustices that Homeworld was adept at doling out.

      However, Homeworld might have actually won more battles against the Crystal Gems. It could have just been the Crystal Gems' victory at the Gem Battlefield (and we still don't even know why the CGs won that!!!) that clinched the war for them. Still, there are a lot more possibilities. Homeworld might have done a feint on the whole thing and gotten past the block (HIQ reference aayyy): Rose could have stumbled upon plans for a whole chain of interplanetary Clusters during her time on Homeworld, prompting her to dispatch little groups of maybe 10-20 Gems to those planets and stop those Clusters from emerging. Maybe there are other Crystal Gems on other planets that successfully stopped their Clusters and are trying to communicate with our Earth CGs in the hope that they can stop Earth's Cluster from emerging.

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    • I'm pretty sure there were many more CG members, like Greg said in The Return, Rose could only save a handful of her closest friends.

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    • Its been hinted that the super-cluster is entirely Crystal Gems in the show at least...

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    • I heard the CG's are evil and torture the gems they have harvested when Steven's not around. And that Garnet grinds them up so they can eat them while laughing maniacally. Reliable source

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    • Leroy taco wrote: I heard the CG's are evil and torture the gems they have harvested when Steven's not around. And that Garnet grinds them up so they can eat them while laughing maniacally. Reliable source

      I heard that theory too. That the CG are as bad if not worse than Homeworld, but that is the reason why they can't forgive themselves. Fighting and violence and war is probably a norm in gem culture.

      I heard a theory that Rose was the one behind the cluster as she and yd worked out a plan: the HG would leave and in return they could use the earth for experimenting.

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    • The Answer 121

      Of course, Blue Diamond would be Palpatine.

      IMO, Rose Quartz won the rebellion sort of like how the Rebel Alliance won the Battle of Yavin IV when they blew up the first Death Star.

      The Cluster's the next big threat, sort of like the second Death Star from Return of the Jedi. If it ever got finished, the Rebel Alliance would be doomed, but right now, it's still under construction, and there's still time to stop it.

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    • Thestevenbrigade wrote: True, Pearl is pretty biased in her descriptions of the Rebellion. It's mostly just because of her love for Rose - you wouldn't want to taint the reputation of the Gem you looked up to most in front of that Gem's child, right? However, assuming it takes at least 3 Crystal Gems to take down one Homeworld Gem, then the Crystal Gems would have had to have a lot of Gems on their side. This was actually the most probable case, since we've seen a lot more lower-class Gems, like Rubies and Pearls, on Homeworld. If all these lower-class Gems supported the Crystal Gems, then at least 50-70% of Homeworld's population would be against Homeworld itself. Add that to the minority of upper-class Gems that would support the CGs and you'd most likely get 80%, too. Thus, it'd be a battle of numbers versus power. If Homeworld stuck to its practice of disallowing fusions that were not for combat purposes, then the Crystal Gems would have a blissful advantage, not only because Rose letting the Crystal Gems fuse and live in peace with the humans on Earth boosted their morale far beyond what Homeworld could offer, but also because it would drive those Gems to stop the injustices that Homeworld was adept at doling out.

      However, Homeworld might have actually won more battles against the Crystal Gems. It could have just been the Crystal Gems' victory at the Gem Battlefield (and we still don't even know why the CGs won that!!!) that clinched the war for them. Still, there are a lot more possibilities. Homeworld might have done a feint on the whole thing and gotten past the block (HIQ reference aayyy): Rose could have stumbled upon plans for a whole chain of interplanetary Clusters during her time on Homeworld, prompting her to dispatch little groups of maybe 10-20 Gems to those planets and stop those Clusters from emerging. Maybe there are other Crystal Gems on other planets that successfully stopped their Clusters and are trying to communicate with our Earth CGs in the hope that they can stop Earth's Cluster from emerging.

      I think that the reason Pearl looks at Rose so fondly is because rose basically saved her. Pearl as far as we know is defective and might've even been defective on Homeworld. Like maybe she was gonna be shattered but rose saved her and took her under her wing and taught her how to be a person.

      I think that Pearl believes that if Steven were to learn info like that his mother led a rebellion and that the gems are aliens (I mean it took him 13 years to learn any of this and he apparently lived with the CG since he was like 5) then he would start to think and realize that the HG have a point and see the CG in a negative light. Like that is why he is constantly kept in the dark. Garnet, I think that she thinks that he should know this stuff but in good time, as she is the only one who actually believes in him. Amethyst maybe it is complicated. The CG do keep her in the dark but not as much as Steven so she should know some things. but maybe she thinks that after the kindergarten incident that Steven shouldn't know a lot.

      I do buy into the theory that there are other worlds with other CG but they might go by different names (like maybe the one in the, say sedimentary system are sedimentary gems). Like perhaps rose made it mainstream.

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