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  • We know that the current The Great Diamond Authority symbol misses Pink Diamond. That she was removed, indicates that there are inner power struggle. And why does homeworld sent so few gems to earth while they should know by now, that the traitors who started the rebellion are are still there?

    The best explanation is that YD keeps the cluster secret from the other Diamonds. Maybe she plans to demonstrate her power and then overthrow the other two Diamonds.

    It would also explain why she sent five unexperienced Rubies instead of a whole battalion. No one would notice if they went missing. Peridot is propably expandable as well and Jaspers seems like a loner, who can keep her mouth shut.

    I really hope that this theory is true, because it would explain a lot and it would allow earth to stand a chance against homeworld.

    Maybe the other Diamonds don't know that earth still exists, because YD told them she had to blow it up in order to contain the rebellion.

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    • Any thoughts?

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    • That's a REALLY good theory. :)

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    • that makes me hate her even more.

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    • Maybe Homeworld isn't that evil after all. Maybe only YD is really evil. BD was sent to earth as part of a diplomatic mission. And Lapis voluntarily returned to homeworld.

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    • THAT...I actually never considered. That would explain a lot, actually.

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    • Maybe when the other two Diamonds will know this, they will fight Yellow Diamond to yellow ground and White Diamond(or Pink Diamond) will shatter her (and somehow PD will return.)

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    • LanguageProfessor wrote:
      Maybe when the other two Diamonds will know this, they will fight Yellow Diamond to yellow ground and White Diamond(or Pink Diamond) will shatter her (and somehow PD will return.)

      Maybe they agree to peace and earth will be put in charge of guarding the cluster since they would never used it.

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    • Snowball where are my wrote:

      LanguageProfessor wrote:
      Maybe when the other two Diamonds will know this, they will fight Yellow Diamond to yellow ground and White Diamond(or Pink Diamond) will shatter her (and somehow PD will return.)

      Maybe they agree to peace and earth will be put in charge of guarding the cluster since they would never used it.

      Yeah! :) Maybe, they'll find the rest of the gems' shards in other gems that were used to hide the shards. Then, they will become the gems they once were. They might try to fight the homeworld gems, but Steven calms them down and explains that they mean no harm.

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    • it could be possible but i doubt it. We've seen BD take an interest in earth in the flash back, i feel like BD said "screw it, too much work with the rebellion, do with it what you'd like YD" only more sophistic-sounding

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    • Ashmic wrote:
      it could be possible but i doubt it. We've seen BD take an interest in earth in the flash back, i feel like BD said "screw it, too much work with the rebellion, do with it what you'd like YD" only more sophistic-sounding

      It is not neccesary that BD carres about earth, the cluster is a super weapon and YD could potentialy use it against BD and WD.

      It is possible that earth became the responsibility of YD, because the other Diamonds want to have nothing to do with earth.

      Maybe YD ordered the retreat and told everyone that she would destroy earth, that would explain why homeworld abandoned earth while only 5 gems were left.

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    • Snowball where are my wrote:

      Ashmic wrote:
      it could be possible but i doubt it. We've seen BD take an interest in earth in the flash back, i feel like BD said "screw it, too much work with the rebellion, do with it what you'd like YD" only more sophistic-sounding

      It is not neccesary that BD carres about earth, the cluster is a super weapon and YD could potentialy use it against BD and WD.

      It is possible that earth became the responsibility of YD, because the other Diamonds want to have nothing to do with earth.

      Maybe YD ordered the retreat and told everyone that she would destroy earth, that would explain why homeworld abandoned earth while only 5 gems were left.

      GOOD IDEA! :)

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    • YD seemed presonally affected by Earth, at least in regards to her hatred to the planet.

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    • It would explain a great deal. A lot of what was going on.

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    • who knows, what if YD put a cluster in Homeworld's core in case she is overthrown

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    • LanguageProfessor wrote:
      Maybe when the other two Diamonds will know this, they will fight Yellow Diamond to yellow ground and White Diamond(or Pink Diamond) will shatter her (and somehow PD will return.).

      My version is that by the time they find Out, YD has become so powerful to the point where she threatens to upset the balance of the universe/multiverse (she plans on ruling over all of existence). fighting her would be much harder and far more devastating than anticipated

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    • Benjohn132 wrote:
      who knows, what if YD put a cluster in Homeworld's core in case she is overthrown
      Earth Colony Plans

      What Earth was projected to look like as a fully terraformed Gem colony.

      This is what earth was supposed to look like. That's how Peridot described it: "[...]Eighty-nine kindergartens, sixty-seven spires, a Galaxy Warp in each facet, efficient use of all available materials."

      Someone would notice if YD hid a cluster there. And YD wouldn't be able to control when the cluster forms.

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    • Do you remember this sound?

      And this? It's similar, isn't it?

      We know Homeworld used some kind of superweapon on the Earth and Rose could save only few of closest friends, maybe some fauna of the planet. We can see some light in Lapis story, probably ray able to strongly affect on gems causing corruption or something worse. What if YD used it? And what if Pink Diamond was too late for evac... or YD didn't want to wait for her?

      The Earth was marked as polluted/cursed (for gems) and useless for the ages, probably quarantined, so WD and BD can have no knowledge about what YD wants to achieve, because they think there is nothing worth to care. Just accept perspective of someone's who is the co-ruler of interstellar empire, YD can have different because of Cluster, but WD and BD don't care.

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    • Judging by this quote, I think the other diamonds and Homeworld Gems are aware of what ever Yellow Diamond has been doing to get rid of Earth.

      Yellow Diamond : "You are to leave the Cluster to grow. It will tear apart the Earth, and I will take immense satisfaction in erasing that hideous rock off of our star maps. Is that clear?! "

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    • Bunai82 wrote:
      Judging by this quote, I think the other diamonds and Homeworld Gems are aware of what ever Yellow Diamond has been doing to get rid of Earth.

      Yellow Diamond : "You are to leave the Cluster to grow. It will tear apart the Earth, and I will take immense satisfaction in erasing that hideous rock off of our star maps. Is that clear?! "


      that could mean anything, "our" could mean YD's court (if she has some sort of god complex and think shes the only important diamond)

      she could just mean her and peridots which still means YD's court,

      she could mean Homeworld altogether but then again, this doesnt mean it includes the other diamonds if YD feels shes more superior,

      not saying she feels that way but it struck me like that

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    • Ashmic wrote:
      Bunai82 wrote:
      Judging by this quote, I think the other diamonds and Homeworld Gems are aware of what ever Yellow Diamond has been doing to get rid of Earth.

      Yellow Diamond : "You are to leave the Cluster to grow. It will tear apart the Earth, and I will take immense satisfaction in erasing that hideous rock off of our star maps. Is that clear?! "


      that could mean anything, "our" could mean YD's court (if she has some sort of god complex and think shes the only important diamond)

      she could just mean her and peridots which still means YD's court,

      she could mean Homeworld altogether but then again, this doesnt mean it includes the other diamonds if YD feels shes more superior,

      not saying she feels that way but it struck me like that

      i always suspected that she had a god complex and im pretty sure she shattered the other diamonds and that homeworld is now something similar to a hivemind that mindlessly conquers planets without end.


      I also think YD not only wants to rule the universe but all of existence (multiverse).

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    • Ashmic wrote:

      Bunai82 wrote:
      Judging by this quote, I think the other diamonds and Homeworld Gems are aware of what ever Yellow Diamond has been doing to get rid of Earth.

      Yellow Diamond : "You are to leave the Cluster to grow. It will tear apart the Earth, and I will take immense satisfaction in erasing that hideous rock off of our star maps. Is that clear?! "


      that could mean anything, "our" could mean YD's court (if she has some sort of god complex and think shes the only important diamond)

      she could just mean her and peridots which still means YD's court,

      she could mean Homeworld altogether but then again, this doesnt mean it includes the other diamonds if YD feels shes more superior,

      not saying she feels that way but it struck me like that

      That's an interesting premise but Yellow Diamond does speak in the first person and never detoured from this.

      And the only point when she addressed herself is when she said "I want my Cluster".

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    • Bunai82 wrote:

      Ashmic wrote:

      Bunai82 wrote:
      Judging by this quote, I think the other diamonds and Homeworld Gems are aware of what ever Yellow Diamond has been doing to get rid of Earth.

      Yellow Diamond : "You are to leave the Cluster to grow. It will tear apart the Earth, and I will take immense satisfaction in erasing that hideous rock off of our star maps. Is that clear?! "


      that could mean anything, "our" could mean YD's court (if she has some sort of god complex and think shes the only important diamond)

      she could just mean her and peridots which still means YD's court,

      she could mean Homeworld altogether but then again, this doesnt mean it includes the other diamonds if YD feels shes more superior,

      not saying she feels that way but it struck me like that

      That's an interesting premise but Yellow Diamond does speak in the first person and never detoured from this.

      And the only point when she addressed herself is when she said "I want my Cluster".

      Don't forget the "And I want that planet to die" part.

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    • 96 Exits wrote:
      Bunai82 wrote:

      Ashmic wrote:


      Bunai82 wrote:
      Judging by this quote, I think the other diamonds and Homeworld Gems are aware of what ever Yellow Diamond has been doing to get rid of Earth. Yellow Diamond : "You are to leave the Cluster to grow. It will tear apart the Earth, and I will take immense satisfaction in erasing that hideous rock off of our star maps. Is that clear?! "

      that could mean anything, "our" could mean YD's court (if she has some sort of god complex and think shes the only important diamond)

      she could just mean her and peridots which still means YD's court,

      she could mean Homeworld altogether but then again, this doesnt mean it includes the other diamonds if YD feels shes more superior,

      not saying she feels that way but it struck me like that

      That's an interesting premise but Yellow Diamond does speak in the first person and never detoured from this.

      And the only point when she addressed herself is when she said "I want my Cluster".

      Don't forget the "And I want that planet to die" part.


      Both could just mean she values herself more than the other diamonds, like shes the only one that matters

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    • Ashmic wrote:

      96 Exits wrote:
      Bunai82 wrote:

      Ashmic wrote:


      Bunai82 wrote:
      Judging by this quote, I think the other diamonds and Homeworld Gems are aware of what ever Yellow Diamond has been doing to get rid of Earth. Yellow Diamond : "You are to leave the Cluster to grow. It will tear apart the Earth, and I will take immense satisfaction in erasing that hideous rock off of our star maps. Is that clear?! "

      that could mean anything, "our" could mean YD's court (if she has some sort of god complex and think shes the only important diamond)

      she could just mean her and peridots which still means YD's court,

      she could mean Homeworld altogether but then again, this doesnt mean it includes the other diamonds if YD feels shes more superior,

      not saying she feels that way but it struck me like that

      That's an interesting premise but Yellow Diamond does speak in the first person and never detoured from this.

      And the only point when she addressed herself is when she said "I want my Cluster".

      Don't forget the "And I want that planet to die" part.


      Both could just mean she values herself more than the other diamonds, like shes the only one that matters

      . . . ?

      That wasn't the discussion at hand. Your reply had to do with believing that Yellow Diamond saying "WE", in a proper sentence, to mean herself. No one here is saying she doesn't think highly of herself, the point is she acknowledges the others leadership.

      If she was running the entire Homeworld herself then she wouldn't need subordinates doing her tactics.

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    • Snowball where are my wrote:
      Benjohn132 wrote:
      who knows, what if YD put a cluster in Homeworld's core in case she is overthrown
      Earth Colony Plans

      What Earth was projected to look like as a fully terraformed Gem colony.

      This is what earth was supposed to look like. That's how Peridot described it: "[...]Eighty-nine kindergartens, sixty-seven spires, a Galaxy Warp in each facet, efficient use of all available materials."

      Someone would notice if YD hid a cluster there. And YD wouldn't be able to control when the cluster forms.

      You cannot have the Colony and the Cluster there at the same time, making me to believe the Colonization was just a cover-up.  But, she would have to lie to most of her higher-ups to get this weapon.  Those two are good explanations, but the cluster could be an afterthought of YD, after the Rebellion was too much of a nuisance.

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    • Considering the Cluster didn't require the use of resources from Earth to form, the original intent was to turn Earth into a Gem ruled planet. However, since the colonization idea was abandoned and the Cluster was formed after the Rebellion, in consequently this would be removing Earth 'from the star map'.

      But the Cluster was not buried at the center of the Earth.

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    • Ttylxoxfan wrote: That's a REALLY good theory. :)

      Agreed :)

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    • What if Rose Quartz is the Pink "Diamond", she changed her name or something, or even the symbols don't explains only diamonds, it also confirm the pink-shaped diamond on pearl's suit. They deleted that pink on the actual mark because of her betrayal on Homeworld

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    • why is this still a theory, its been said by the staff AND the characters in the show that Rose isa  quartz, at this point it'd be just bad writing if she was mysterously pink diamond, besides, Steven or at least the gems would've said something when in the moon base with all the diamond portriats!

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    • Ashmic wrote:
      why is this still a theory, its been said by the staff AND the characters in the show that Rose isa  quartz, at this point it'd be just bad writing if she was mysterously pink diamond, besides, Steven or at least the gems would've said something when in the moon base with all the diamond portriats!

      Agreed, I personally go with that Rose Quartz killed Pink Diamond, and I mean shattered her gem entirley.

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    • Lapissonata3248 wrote:

      Agreed, I personally go with that Rose Quartz killed Pink Diamond, and I mean shattered her gem entirley.

      No, Rose Quartz didn't kill PD. Yellow Diamond killed Pink Diamond cause the Cluster. White and Blue Diamond don't know about it. PD wanted to tell the other two YD were doing a big Cluster in the Earth, but YD wanted to kept in secret. If the Cluster emerged as YD thought now she could overthrown the other two diamonds.

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    • LanguageProfessor wrote:

      Lapissonata3248 wrote:

      Agreed, I personally go with that Rose Quartz killed Pink Diamond, and I mean shattered her gem entirley.

      No, Rose Quartz didn't kill PD. Yellow Diamond killed Pink Diamond cause the Cluster. White and Blue Diamond don't know about it. PD wanted to tell the other two YD were doing a big Cluster in the Earth, but YD wanted to kept in secret. If the Cluster emerged as YD thought now she could overthrown the other two diamonds.

      I highly doubt Yellow Diamond killed Pink Diamond but we'll see.

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    • I have like an enormous and minuciously analyzed theory on this subject that i will post later on the discussion page.

      I don't believe a Diamond can kill other Diamond just with her own powers (i think they're equal beings), there must be something more.

      In my opinion, everybody on Homeworld knows about the Cluster's existence (there could be even more Geoweapons around the cosmos), and if not, it doesn't necessarily mean that a possible takeover organized by YD is in it's initial stage. The fact that she's now the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces (which i don't think was the case back then) alone could give her important strategic advantages over the other Diamonds, and it should be easy for her to reclaim the colonies and estabilish an Empire where she is the leader de-facto. 

      There's an entire "cult of personality" revolving YD's image (Peridot wasn't just admiring her owner at the Moon Base, she was stating that she was the best Diamond), and before we started theorizing about other Diamonds, we actually tought that she was the solo leader of that civilization.

      The other two could still be around, but just acting as figurative leaders in a fake "balanced" Triumvirate. They couldn't do anything about it, since YD now holds so much power that the dream of a insurgence would result in massive repression. Also, she might possess hundreds of what we would call "Weapons of Mass Destruction" here on Earth (Geoweapons), incubated or already hatched. They wouldn't serve just as war machines, but also fear machines.

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