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  • Okay I've heard this about 8 billion times at this point and it seems to be a focal point in many theories, and I'm gonna smash it into little itty bitty pieces for you.

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    Okay, see those things?


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    Yes, those. THEY ARE NOT DIAMONDS.

    NOT. DIAMONDS.

    I cannot even begin to explain how this is the utter bain of my existance in this fandom, these are absolutely not diamonds.

    Proof?

    *Cracks knuckles*

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    See that in the original drawing? Replacing Rose? That is Pink Diamond. There is clearly a Diamond on her chest, and on those other things? Those are triangles. Not. Diamonds.

    Don't believe in the mystical being that is PD? All good, there's still a Diamond in the original mural, held by Rose Quartz. The shape still doesn't match the ones on the little triangle dudes.

    "So what are those things?!" You scream angrily into the void that is the internet.

    Well boy howdy, do I have answers for you lil buddy. They're the Diamond Authority Military.

    My proof? One of them is fighting Rose in the final product for one. Do you honestly think a Diamond would sink down to the level of fighting physically, and risk their own gem rather than just commanding another gem to risk themselves? I doubt it.

    Secondly, Blue Diamond was the only Diamond on earth during the rebellion, aside from perhaps Pink Diamond.

    Thirdly, this mural depicts the last bit of the rebellion as was also depicted by Lapis. Rose Quartz wins a battle against homeworlds finest military whilst keeping them from coming near the kindergartens,

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    Homeworld says "balls to this" and hightails it out of earth asap while leaving all "unnecessary" gems who saw their defeat behind,


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    and then finally, to make sure that the mess cleans itself up, Homeworld detonates an EMP bomb to damage all gems on earth to the point of becoming corrupt. All except those Rose Quartz had inside her shield.

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    So now, I hope you all see that those triangle guys in the mural are most definitely NOT Diamonds, and that this clears up all the confusion.

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    • I may also put this on my tumblr, so if you see it floating around on tumblr it's not stolen or anything.

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    • I really want to believe in this theory, cause it could finally end the eternal debate on the infamous murals, but there's a problem, and it's resumed in a couple of screenshots (two are not directly showing up, so it's necessary to click on the link to see them):

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      How could we explain this?

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    • The moon base was built with all 4 Diamonds in the mural. It was just art as far as I could tell. The gems basically worship the Diamonds, so it wouldn't be odd for them to have murals depicting them. White Diamond is likely holding a depiction of homeworld.

      The gem in the pyramid temple who has their hands around their gem is most likely using their power to detonate the EMP. In that picture, their hands are around their gem. But in the next picture of the explosion, it's arms are spread out sort of like in anime when a character is using a power. Gems in general with or without an actual form can power weapons or structures or almost anything.

      The obelisk is likely a gem from the White Diamond faction, considering gems from all factions made it to earth, that's not too weird. I actually just posted about this in another forum post, the gem in the obelisk is most likely Goshenite. It's too translucent to actually be White Diamond.

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      This was most likely a gem who worshipped White Diamond, and depicted their shrine in a similar fashion to the murals on the moon base, and probably all over homeworld.

      I'm not too sure what you mean by the picture of this:

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      But I'm assuming it has something to do with the symbols being triangles, yes?

      My theory is that that is the symbol of the Militia.  Most of the militia seems to be represented by triangles rather than diamonds.

      The only example I can think of besides murals:

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      The warship the rubies

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      The symbol on the floor of the Hand Ship, which is a military warship




      It's not much, but it's what I've got to go on, and it's enough to convince me that the gems in the pyramid mural are not Diamonds.

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    • I could be wrong, but this is my theory on all of it so far. There's still soooo much to discover about Steven Universe's world though.

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    • Well, I agree that they aren't diamonds. Perhaps they are close to the Diamonds (Incluiding Rose, I think she was close to Pink D.)

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    • I think it's a prophesy .  All those hands.. ( cluster ) Gem with triangular  hair ( Peridot  ) ....triangular  ship.. ( drill )

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    • What i was trying to point out were the undeniable similarities between the 3 figures, mostly regarding the position of their hands. There's a 90% chance that the figure seen in the moon base is a visual representation of White Diamond - the one in the murals has even the same body definitions and hairstyle, while the Obelisk Gem has the same Diamond shape.

      There's a possibility that it could be another gem, but the "weight" of this theory is the same of the others saying it's a white diamond.

      The Triple-Triangle is the current emblem of the Diamond Authority itself, which has it's pink diamond removed for unknown, but heavily theorized reasons.

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    • But something that I'd like to point out is that these screenshots arre old. They probably didn't have the diamond's desingn finished yet.

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    • So they never actually  confirmed  what that big light in the sky was in same old world?

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    • If that's the case, then it's time for the crewnivese to clear it up, cause these murals are giving people headaches since 2013. XD

      BTW, the similarities are still there.

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    • It's hard to get a definite or most possible theory at this point. There's just so much to process and figure out x.x

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    • I think we'll get an answer eventually. The Crewniverse tend to not give information until they're good and ready though

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    • Also, the reason I think the big flash of light was an EMP is because the hands in the mural seem to be reaching out like "Wait for me! Please!" and then the explosion happends, and the hands are gone. Lapis also said there was a big rush to get out of earth. I also don't remember anyone ever saying that gems can become corrupt over time, but that they need to become damaged. They don't appear damaged on the outside, but gems are electrical in nature and so an EMP could "Fry" them so to speak. And Steven's shield protected the CG when the Hand warship crash landed, so it can withstand quite a lot of damage before popping, and Roses shield could've withstood a lot more damage probably.

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    • I think the only diamond  left in homeworld  is yellow. Blue was defeated  in the war, pink died off according  to  the  gda symbols .   White, according  to  the  moon mural, is controlling  another planet somewhere . Yellow  is so crazy about destroying  the earth  b/c she knows  she's the only one that hasn't given up or been killed or defeated . She HAS to win.

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    • SunshineTae wrote:
      Also, the reason I think the big flash of light was an EMP is because the hands in the mural seem to be reaching out like "Wait for me! Please!" and then the explosion happends, and the hands are gone. Lapis also said there was a big rush to get out of earth. I also don't remember anyone ever saying that gems can become corrupt over time, but that they need to become damaged. They don't appear damaged on the outside, but gems are electrical in nature and so an EMP could "Fry" them so to speak. And Steven's shield protected the CG when the Hand warship crash landed, so it can withstand quite a lot of damage before popping, and Roses shield could've withstood a lot more damage probably.

      I believe in the EMP theory, and that it was the cause of the death and corruption of many Gems, including Rose's Army. There could be even some fleeing Homeworld Gems that got caught by the explosion.

      BUT i think that at first, Homeworld Gems were escaping from Rose and her companions, who had recently obliterated the entire Earth Legion (a.k.a. the Kindergarten Gems) at the Strawberry Battlefield, a decisive victory for the Rebellion. After a short stalemate, they marched against the remaining loyalists, forcing them to leave forever.

      Then comes a "tactical nuke" launched by Homeworld as a desperate measure to contain the Crystal Gem Army, that could now be a threat to other colonies as well.

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    • Maybe  that's why the galaxy warp is broken  

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    • This is kinda not related to this ,but still I just need to get this off my chest.

      THE GEM IN THE PYRAMID IS NOT WHITE DIAMOND!!!!!!

      Why you ask? Because why the fudge would homeworld leave one of their diamonds (the most powerful gems) on earth.... With a giant cluster in it..... That's gonna destroy the earth.... And the diamond. If it WAS white diamond, I'm pretty sure that some homeworld gems would have come to collect it.



      Ok keep scrolling

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    • Garnetamethystpearlandrose wrote:
      This is kinda not related to this ,but still I just need to get this off my chest.

      THE GEM IN THE PYRAMID IS NOT WHITE DIAMOND!!!!!!

      Why you ask? Because why the fudge would homeworld leave one of their diamonds (the most powerful gems) on earth.... With a giant cluster in it..... That's gonna destroy the earth.... And the diamond. If it WAS white diamond, I'm pretty sure that some homeworld gems would have come to collect it.



      Ok keep scrolling

      What if the Cluster is Yellow Diamond's ultra-secret plan that she didn't told anyone except for her servants? And the other factors already mentioned are still there.

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    • Killuminati212 wrote:
      Garnetamethystpearlandrose wrote:
      This is kinda not related to this ,but still I just need to get this off my chest.

      THE GEM IN THE PYRAMID IS NOT WHITE DIAMOND!!!!!!

      Why you ask? Because why the fudge would homeworld leave one of their diamonds (the most powerful gems) on earth.... With a giant cluster in it..... That's gonna destroy the earth.... And the diamond. If it WAS white diamond, I'm pretty sure that some homeworld gems would have come to collect it.



      Ok keep scrolling

      What if the Cluster is Yellow Diamond's ultra-secret plan that she didn't told anyone except for her servants? And the other factors already mentioned are still there.


      Well, it seems to be something pretty recent, as the tests were still being made. I belive the diamonds are closer nowadays since now the symbol is overlaping.

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    • If it was White Diamond, I'm pretty  sure the CG would've known who it was at the very least.

      Also, I actually think the diamonds are less close than they were before the rebellion. I mean it just seems like they wouldn't trust each other as much because, hey, if one Diamond can do it, so could another. At the very least I would think they'd be more suspicious of each other and a little more paranoid.

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    • That's why i think Yellow Diamond basically took over when she saw an opportunity. Seriously, she now commands all the armies of Homeworld, including Rubies, who weren't shown with any insignia on their uniform, but now have one, and it's yellow.

      Who has the army, has the power.

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    • Even if YD does have more power than before, I think WD still has more power. She seems to be the leader over all, as opposed to just leader of one thing. Like she's the true leader and the other are just her council.

      Also, the fact that PD didn't really have the gems in her faction wear an insignia is also... interesting. Maybe she treated gems more fairly and equally? PLOT TWIST! PD was always the black sheep of the diamonds, and they were just waiting for her to slip up enough to get caught :p

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    • My theory is that the Diamonds where originally kinder or at least different then when something happened to PD, the gem who kept them sane, they became crueler. Like foils to the CG, when Rose died if Steven was for some reason not around perhaps Garnet would've become the distant leader, Pearl could've become mean spirited, and Amethyst could've began to hide herself more (why else does BD wear that cloak over her face?)

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    • I doubt that the Diamonds have been any definition of kind for a very long time. Before PD was even a problem they were destroying planets and the life on those planets, and enforced a caste system that more or less made most gems completely expendable while maknig others hyper valuable. In other words, if you're not valuable you might as well be shattered. This is seen as gems that can't take form are used to power structures or weapons or devices. The Diamonds will squeeze every last drop of use they can out of a gem, regardless of any emotion or personality that may be left in said gem. BD has explicitely pushed blame onto a Ruby for something both a Ruby and a Sapphire did, which shows the elitist mindset of the gem culture. It's also been theorized that gems are very abused, as when Peridot first came out of the bubble she was more or less freaking out, and was worried she was going to be shattered. Peridot also shares patterns with many abuse victims. All in all, the Diamonds most likely have almost always been cruel.

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    • I guess but I do have to wonder about them

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    • You ever seen that domain of the diamonds  video ? 

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    • Ixisnagus112 wrote:
      You ever seen that domain of the diamonds  video ? 

      Possibly...

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    • There is a high probability each of diamond has own domain in Homeworld.

      We don't know it's based on territorial division (Earth could be in BD's domain) or segregation of duties (Colonization could be BD's duty). But they must distribute the power in the Homeworld in some way. If one of the rulers has been removed, and there are no mechanisms of succession, which would regulate that sort of situations, balance has been disturbed. Partition of PD's terrirotory, armies or duties could make diamonds discouraged to each other. Lower class gems don't know about it, but their leaders don't contact each other and secretly conspire against themselves.

      There can be another reason of distrust. What if PD was trying to escape the Earth but diamonds or one of diamonds didn't want to wait and used superweapon? Now PD is corrupted and removed from Hierarchy. Maybe diamonds or one of them intentionally destroyed the balance? Well, if you aren't aging, you can create plans, whose implementation will take thousands of years. And maybe the Cluster is just next step. Think about it, one ruler resolve any disputes about distribution of power. One Diamond means no conflicts in the Hierarchy. There are many excuses to justify the hunger for power.

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    • I saw another theory on this. They beleived the hands were humans being punished. Further on, more murals show the humans undergoing the trials in the temple and few surviving. (Dark, right?) I'll try to link the video.

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      Your theory convinced me about that not being a diamond, but I beleive the human thing.

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      • Squints*

      I... Never even thought about the lower murals.. I assumed they were injectors depicting the kindergarten. This may flip my entire theory.

      Just another layer of confusion x.x

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    • Maybe we'll see these murals again or similar ones and Jasper or one of the CG can explain them?

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote: Maybe we'll see these murals again or similar ones and Jasper or one of the CG can explain them?

      But when? The CGs hate talking about this kind of topic

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    • I sincerely don't believe that White DIamond was literally more powerful than the others; i think that whoever created the Diamonds (if they were actually created, and didn't came to existence like our Christian God), made them as equal beings. The difference here is "who controls what" in the political chess game. There could be even some kind of "competition" between them regarding who would control more star systems (something like the infamous "Space Race"). Based on the murals at the moon base, White seemed to be the one with more territory, which could make her the hypothetical leader...but we don't know about the current situation. There's a clear factor of change though - Earth was supposed to be Blue Diamond's colony, but now, it looks like that Yellow is in charge of it. Either it was given away, or taken.

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    • Gooseloovah wrote:

      Steven Bomb 17 wrote: Maybe we'll see these murals again or similar ones and Jasper or one of the CG can explain them?

      But when? The CGs hate talking about this kind of topic

      Maybe when Steven asks or maybe Peridot can do some investigating and explain it to him, Lapis might be able to tell him assuming she knew about said event

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Gooseloovah wrote:

      Steven Bomb 17 wrote: Maybe we'll see these murals again or similar ones and Jasper or one of the CG can explain them?

      But when? The CGs hate talking about this kind of topic
      Maybe when Steven asks or maybe Peridot can do some investigating and explain it to him, Lapis might be able to tell him assuming she knew about said event


      Hmmm probaly...but we're gonna have to wait for a very long time

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    • Gooseloovah wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Gooseloovah wrote:

      Steven Bomb 17 wrote: Maybe we'll see these murals again or similar ones and Jasper or one of the CG can explain them?

      But when? The CGs hate talking about this kind of topic
      Maybe when Steven asks or maybe Peridot can do some investigating and explain it to him, Lapis might be able to tell him assuming she knew about said event

      Hmmm probaly...but we're gonna have to wait for a very long time

      Indeed, good news is Peridot can probably tell us what the writing on the pillars mean which again will take a while

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    • Ixisnagus112 wrote: You ever seen that domain of the diamonds  video ? 

      The Roles Of The Great Diamond Authority Steven Universe Theory-0

      The Roles Of The Great Diamond Authority Steven Universe Theory-0

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    • That Gem that Rose replaced in the Sketch is not Pink Diamond, it's either Blue or Yellow Diamond... Pink Diamonds Gem theorecitcLly should be on her stomach, as according to the original Diamond Authority Symbol, White Diamond is on top of it and her Gem is on her Forehead, Blue and Yellow are in the middle and their Gems are on their chests, and Pink is at the bottom and ergo her Gem would be on her Stomach and or lower...

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    • Yeah that's something I've thought about. However, the Gem in the mural also has hair, and glasses that don't match any other diamond we've seen. We've seen how BD, YD, and WD all look with their hair and facial features, and none of them are a match. My best theory for it is that all gems in this mural have their gems on their chest due to lack of space to elswhere put a gem. Saying that, this is still another hole in my theory.

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