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  • Talk about the episode here. There will be spoilers in here.

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    • What an adorable episode, well at least it ended well for centipeetle

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    • So Diamond Authority is repsonablity for corrupted Gems. Another thing is seems that between during the time of the moon base and aduring the rebillion Pink Diamond was either killed or disappered.


      So it seems that Steven's healing powers could also hinge on the mental state of the Gem. I look her expression  of when Steven couldn't read her write writing. This was a emotional episode.

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    • The episode was about centipedle reuniteing with her family not with steven.

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    • Mother- "Brennah why are you cooing like there is a baby in your room?"

      I LOVE CENTI SO MUCH

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    • Mother- "Why are you crying now?"

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    • What mother? centipedle?

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    • I almost cried but I couldn't cuz I was in public

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    • The episode "Monster Reunion" adds more evidence to the Rose=Pink Diamond theory.

      The whole Centipeedle backstory took place during the war/revolution. When Centi was drawing for Steven, she only drew three diamonds, with the bottom diamond, also known as Pink Diamond, missing.Well, during the revolution, Rose/ Pink Diamond became a rebel. So, the Gem Government took out her out of the insignia. Hence Centi draws three diamonds instead of four.

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    • I'm not crying, you are crying, kay! I'm... Not...

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    • Pomi098 wrote:
      What mother? centipedle?

      Haha! No no. My mom. I was being loud about my feelings and she overheard me! 

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    • I liked this episode. Several comments:

      This episode made me feel for Centipeetle (rhyme not intended).

      Anyway, we were right about that bright star seen on Same Old World being the Diamonds' doing and that it was responsible for the corrupted Gems.

      Garnet clarified that corruption was damage to the mind while cracking was damage to the body.

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    • SO- *CLAP* that was wonderful. ALSO-can we assume that Gems of like types corrupt the same way? I wonder why.

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    • Ok now Steven just has to go inside their minds and cure their minds, also I knew it! I must be insane because I knew a super weapon created the corrupted gems!

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    • CrystalBren wrote:

      Haha! No no. My mom. I was being loud about my feelings and she overheard me! 

      That's why I keep my steven universe feelings in my mind.

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    • Im crying too much, Now I need to watch something funny, like an old cartoon cartoon, so I can recover from this episode

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    • I started to tear up at the end, only because I was sad that Centipeetle couldn't be fully healed and turned back into her full monster form despite having some knowledge left, I wanted her to be Steven or Amethyst's corrupted roomate :(

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    • Ok, I just came up with a theory. The Diamonds did something with that giant light that was described, that got rid/corrupted the gems left behind, so the Crystal Gems couldn't grow, or something like that general area.

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    • So Steven can just heal the cracked gems the CGs have right? Actually do they have any cracked gems bubbled?

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    • Yeah, it was probably intended to wipe out the Crystal Gems but also corrupted the surviving ones that were exposed to it. Maybe Rose's shield and the mirror Lapis was trapped in protected them from being corrupted.

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    • MiniDaggers wrote:

      So Steven can just heal the cracked gems the CGs have right? Actually do they have any cracked gems bubbled?



      Frybo's shards? And the Big Bird's

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    • Peribab wrote:
      The episode "Monster Reunion" adds more evidence to the Rose=Pink Diamond theory.

      The whole Centipeedle backstory took place during the war/revolution. When Centi was drawing for Steven, she only drew three diamonds, with the bottom diamond, also known as Pink Diamond, missing.Well, during the revolution, Rose/ Pink Diamond became a rebel. So, the Gem Government took out her out of the insignia. Hence Centi draws three diamonds instead of four.

      Rose Quartz is a quartz, not a daimond.

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    • Wow what a great episode, and very informative.

      Centipeedle is back and has more humanity than before, but not fully healed, but more self aware of her surroundings and her actions, so that is a step up.

      I told you guys, not all corrupted gems are Crystal Gems, some are Homeworld Gems that were left behind. So if we heal all the corrupted gems in the temple, they are not all going to be allies, though some might be pissed off and join us anyway.

      And it makes the Diamonds even more hate able, what they did to all these gems including some of their allies unforgivable. So I can't wait till we kick their butts, I don't know which Diamond did it, all I know from the drawings it is the new Diamond symbol, so it is not Pink Diamond. Though Centi's commander, it looked like it was Yellow Diamond, because the color looked kind of yellow to me, or at least orange.

      I am glad things worked out in the end, great to see the Crystal Gems especially Garnet after so many episodes, and I wonder if Centipeedle and her crew will be back during a big battle. I can imagine them and the Watermelon Stevens teaming up.

      So far best episode of the week, though who knows what tomorrow brings.

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    • Peribab wrote:
      The episode "Monster Reunion" adds more evidence to the Rose=Pink Diamond theory.


      The whole Centipeedle backstory took place during the war/revolution. When Centi was drawing for Steven, she only drew three diamonds, with the bottom diamond, also known as Pink Diamond, missing.Well, during the revolution, Rose/ Pink Diamond became a rebel. So, the Gem Government took out her out of the insignia. Hence Centi draws three diamonds instead of four.




      Urgh. THE CREW HAS CONFIRMED SHE IS ONLY A QUARTZ. LET THIS STUPID THEORY DIE.

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    • It was an awesome episode. I thought the whole gem corruption process was when the gem, in her humanoid form, had an awful emotional breakdown and changed to that monstrous form, just like Madoka Magica (those who understand). It just reminded me how Lapis recreated that Diamond blast back at "Same Old World". I wonder if they have the tech to heal these gems. Anyways, it was an awesome episode.

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    • I wonder if the gems could create an antidote song.

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Ok now Steven just has to go inside their minds and cure their minds, also I knew it! I must be insane because I knew a super weapon created the corrupted gems!

      Same, and to think she got hit...because she was looking for her crew. She is an honorable captain.

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    • Emotions aside, this was an information packed episode. What I picked up on was:

      The healing of corrupted gems has been attempted and gone to a certian stage without good news.

      Centipeedle seems to have the ability to understand and process at a quick pace, just without being able to communicate back.

      The Gems speak their own language, but all understand English it seems (Possibly other languages?)

      Something on Earth scared the shiz out of the gems, causing them to flee. Major. 

      Something big and bright, something Diamond related, caused the corruption (Sorta like Humans and Radation and Mutation, ETC) 

      All Gems corrupt into the same type of monster.

      Thought though-

      What if Pink Diamond dying/disappearing is what the light was? 

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    • Corruption seems to equate to psychological trauma of some form. Given that gems have holographic bodies and that Centi has found gems she can actually talk to now, honestly I reckon she will heal on her own eventually.

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    • ...Well, I officially have new reason to hate the Diamonds: They made a war song (which would actually explain why singing's a normal part of the show objectively speaking) that can turn their own kind into monsters.

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    • I remember in one Episode Greg said Rose shield her and her closest friends. Maybe that beam of light is what Greg was refering to.

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    • It seems that Pink Diamod had been killed after the rebliion.

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    • CrystalBren wrote:

      Something on Earth scared the shiz out of the gems, causing them to flee. Major. 

      I think it wasn's so much Earth, but the weapon they were about to drop on Earth as a last ditch attack on the Crystal Gem armies, leaving them in a state of corruption for all eternity.

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    • MiniDaggers wrote:
      Corruption seems to equate to psychological trauma of some form. Given that gems have holographic bodies and that Centi has found gems she can actually talk to now, honestly I reckon she will heal on her own eventually.

      But the other Centipeetles didn't heal from being together, and they were in the same room for 5 thousand years together.

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    • Peribab wrote:
      The episode "Monster Reunion" adds more evidence to the Rose=Pink Diamond theory.

      The whole Centipeedle backstory took place during the war/revolution. When Centi was drawing for Steven, she only drew three diamonds, with the bottom diamond, also known as Pink Diamond, missing.Well, during the revolution, Rose/ Pink Diamond became a rebel. So, the Gem Government took out her out of the insignia. Hence Centi draws three diamonds instead of four.

      i would take in this evidence, and it's pretty good evidece, but rose=pink diamond theory was killed off in stevenbomb 4

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    • How do gems reform?

      They need to be poofed.

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    • Yoshimickster wrote:
      CrystalBren wrote:

      Something on Earth scared the shiz out of the gems, causing them to flee. Major. 

      I think it wasn's so much Earth, but the weapon they were about to drop on Earth as a last ditch attack on the Crystal Gem armies, leaving them in a state of corruption for all eternity.


      Obviously, this to a degree backfired. This would also explain why the Crystal Gems are outright unheard of on Homeworld as of the series prior. They likely assumed that Rose Quartz became a corrupted monstrosity, hence why they insisted on the Cluster being there of all places.

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    • Yoshimickster wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Ok now Steven just has to go inside their minds and cure their minds, also I knew it! I must be insane because I knew a super weapon created the corrupted gems!
      Same, and to think she got hit...because she was looking for her crew. She is an honorable captain.

      Indeed...to think that the Diamonds would zap their own followers without even waiting for all of their fleets to get out of the line of fire. And Amethyst she seemed so hesitant to poof Centipeetle.

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    • Vanuun wrote:
      I remember in one Episode Greg said Rose shield her and her closest friends. Maybe that beam of light is what Greg was refering to.

      That would make a ton of sense.... Her bubble probably. And thats why only the three of them along with Rose survived. This does add something to some future episodes as well that I won't label because I'm bad with spoiler text

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    • CrystalBren wrote:
      Vanuun wrote:
      I remember in one Episode Greg said Rose shield her and her closest friends. Maybe that beam of light is what Greg was refering to.
      That would make a ton of sense.... Her bubble probably. And thats why only the three of them along with Rose survived. This does add something to some future episodes as well that I won't label because I'm bad with spoiler text


      Indeed it would. In fact, without giving anything away....this makes way too much sense.

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    • I just wonder how neither Peridot or the CG found the orthers when they were there. Lucky. (Or just cuz spoilers)

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    • Have you all noticed the part when Steven asked the Centipeedle about her name, and the Centipeedle kinda mumbled a syllable "ca/ka".

      Would it be that the Centipeedle is a Chryoprase? I'm trying to know what kind of gem is she. Also, from what the Centipeedle reinstated that she was a former captain of a gem armada tasked on Earth by this some sort of a Diamond. Centipeedle could be a Quartz-type gem.

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    • AquaticPanic wrote:
      I just wonder how neither Peridot or the CG found the orthers when they were there. Lucky. (Or just cuz spoilers)

      That my friend is the power of plot convenience. 

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    • This episode hits you right in the heart in a way that isn't like other episodes.  Other episodes rip your heart out and throws it in the trash, this episode rips your heart out then puts its back in but tears out a couple pieces right at the last second.

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    • TheGlobster wrote:
      Have you all noticed the part when Steven asked the Centipeedle about her name, and the Centipeedle kinda mumbled a syllable "ca/ka".

      Would it be that the Centipeedle is a Chryoprase? I'm trying to know what kind of gem is she. Also, from what the Centipeedle reinstated that she was a former captain of a gem armada tasked on Earth by this some sort of a Diamond. Centipeedle could be a Quartz-type gem.

      Given how her hair is so big it'd make Jasper jealous, you're probably right. And based on the coloring, I'm guessing this is likely Yellow Diamond. No big secret that she seems to be the go-to-source for sociopathic tendencies.

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    • I wonder if this once again proves YD is commander of miltary. So it looks so far that PD might have been killed or banished

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Yoshimickster wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Ok now Steven just has to go inside their minds and cure their minds, also I knew it! I must be insane because I knew a super weapon created the corrupted gems!
      Same, and to think she got hit...because she was looking for her crew. She is an honorable captain.
      Indeed...to think that the Diamonds would zap their own followers without even waiting for all of their fleets to get out of the line of fire. And Amethyst she seemed so hesitant to poof Centipeetle.


      Of course Amethyst was hesitant, she connected with Centipeetle to a degree. Think about it; Amethyst likely sees herself as a monster (though she likely not only hates to admit that, but can't articulate it as such) because she was made to be a war machine by the Diamonds. And to a degree, it might be true.

      But to quote, of all people, the Angry Video Game Nerd: "Maybe that's the way it was supposed to be...but not the way it turned out."

      Also, I forget who said this specifically, but someone on here said that Steven could potentially fix their minds if he could get in their dreams. And while unlikely....it's not impossible, and having this Psychonauts-style episode would be unique, in a potentially nightmare-inducing sort of way.

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    • DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      It looked to be Yellow Diamond.

      Yellow Diamond with a perm tho

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    • Just as the fandom was obcessed with ever gem poofed Lapis, they should or at least I him curious at finding who was Centipeedle comanding officer.

      First of all when you say commander did she mean a Diamond, or some go between like a general.

      If it is a Diamond, it is Yellow Diamond, the color is much closer to yellow than blue or white (though drawing white might be impossible)

      If it is a go between and giving what is going happen, there is no thing as coisidence, we will bump into this gem, granted the hair doesn't match than again that just might be centi's drawing style, but I think I know who it is, giving the color scheme, someone I think we will bump into very shortly. A little cheeto puff if I haven't spelled it out for you enough.

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    • Ratit wrote:
      DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      It looked to be Yellow Diamond.
      Yellow Diamond with a perm tho


      Maybe it was just the style of the time? Come to think of it...it kinda looked like Steven's hair.

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    • Ratit wrote:
      DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      It looked to be Yellow Diamond.
      Yellow Diamond with a perm tho

      It may be Yellow Diamond's past outfit 

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    • It's interesting to see what could be her Gem retangle.

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    • MikeOfWind wrote:
      Ratit wrote:
      DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      It looked to be Yellow Diamond.
      Yellow Diamond with a perm tho
      It may be Yellow Diamond's past outfit 

      Are you saying YD got poofed?

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    • This also makes Centi's gem type more open to me, I assumed that she was a quartz before based on her long white hair, but apparently SHE came to Earth where Quartz type Gems are made...unless quartz types COULD be made on Homeworld but they ran out of quartz similar to how they are running out of material to make proper Peridots! SO MANY WAYS!

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    • I wonder The homeworld  gems seem to know what the weapon was. I mean Pearl says it will take a lot to heal damage from the Diamonds.Could the weapon could be from moon base?  I wonder if we can can ever see her be completely healed again. Judging by what we know now could Pink Diamond have been corrupted ?

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    • Pomi098 wrote:
      MikeOfWind wrote:
      Ratit wrote:
      DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      It looked to be Yellow Diamond.
      Yellow Diamond with a perm tho
      It may be Yellow Diamond's past outfit 
      Are you saying YD got poofed?


      Possibly...though not likely. From what we can tell, Diamonds are indestructible in terms of taking major damage (i.e. they haven't been shattered, nor poofed as far as we know).

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    • DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      I wonder The homeworld  gems seem to know what the weapon was. Could the weapon be from the moon base?


      Well, it does seem to be coming down from space, this fancy-pants weapon. So it's likely that the moon is a likely location.

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    • Honestly I wouldn't mind it if the corrupted gems decided to attack Homeworld when they return, their rulers just blasted them with some type of corruption beam that messed with their data...

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Honestly I wouldn't mind it if the corrupted gems decided to attack Homeworld when they return, their rulers just blasted them with some type of corruption beam that messed with their data...


      Well, YD did tell them to retreat

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    • AquaticPanic wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Honestly I wouldn't mind it if the corrupted gems decided to attack Homeworld when they return, their rulers just blasted them with some type of corruption beam that messed with their data...

      Well, YD did tell them to retreat


      Yeah, but she seriously couldn't check if her own soldiers made it out alive?!

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    • It seems Centipeetle will join Steven. I wonder YD could have easily changed her style.

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    • MiniDaggers wrote:
      AquaticPanic wrote:
      I just wonder how neither Peridot or the CG found the orthers when they were there. Lucky. (Or just cuz spoilers)
      That my friend is the power of plot convenience. 

      Not really the other Cystal Gems and Homeworld Gems were corrpted and experiment on.

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    • The other centipeetles in the gem ship Diana, why didn't the CGs or Peri notice them?

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    • MiniDaggers wrote:
      The other centipeetles in the gem ship Diana, why didn't the CGs or Peri notice them?

      Because it proabaly is not the same ship they were in trying to catch Peri.

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    • Hmm maybe they were hiding?

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    • MiniDaggers wrote:
      The other centipeetles in the gem ship Diana, why didn't the CGs or Peri notice them?


      Perhaps it was a different ship? From the looks of it, there were multiple ships that look like the one in Gem Ship.

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    • Yellow commander has different gem than Yellow Diamond. And different hair.

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    • I really hope Centipeetle and her crew get healed eventually.

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    • I think it was likely the same ship.

      As for hiding, it would go with my theory that they were fairly normal mentally by that point, only being stuck in their forms due to not being poofed.

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    • What's more important was seeing about what else happened at the gem war rebellion, and seeing how the Centipeetle get to earth, and knowing alot of things about the Centipeetle's history.

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    • MiniDaggers wrote:
      The other centipeetles in the gem ship Diana, why didn't the CGs or Peri notice them?

      That was a different ship, the Centipeetle's ship crashed close to the one they entered in "Friend Ship".

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    • MiniDaggers wrote:
      I think it was likely the same ship.

      As for hiding, it would go with my theory that they were fairly normal mentally by that point, only being stuck in their forms due to not being poofed.

      But from Centipeetle's drawing the Homeworld Gems ships were all the same. 

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    • Hey could Steven have to crack corrpted Gems to heal them? I was wondering do you guys think Centipeetle's Gem is her eyes? That she only has one eye

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    • The wiki says it is the same ship I believe.

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    • If they're willing to turn their loyal soldiers into corrupted gems then would they be willing to turn a human into...no never mind let's not worry about that

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      If they're willing to turn their loyal soldiers into corrupted gems then would they be willing to turn a human into...no never mind let's not worry about that

      Well Rose, intentionally or not, has made a weapon against homeworld out of Steven.

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    • Plot twist: Diamonds are really bad at singing and so the other gems became corrupted

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      If they're willing to turn their loyal soldiers into corrupted gems then would they be willing to turn a human into...no never mind let's not worry about that

      What if they used the forced fusion technology to make a half-human and half-gem hybrid, implanting a gem into a human's body? I would totally volunteer to have the Desert Glass implanted in me. Sand powers!

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    • Anyone else notice that there was a voice hidden within Centi's screeching?

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    • AquaticPanic wrote: Plot twist: Diamonds are really bad at singing and so the other gems became corrupted

      I saw someone say that in the comments of Rountable's Monster Reunion review.

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    • So could this mean not some much plot convinece but rather the Centipeetles were somewhere else on the ship or the writers just simple forget.

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    • Jacksierp wrote:

      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      If they're willing to turn their loyal soldiers into corrupted gems then would they be willing to turn a human into...no never mind let's not worry about that

      What if they used the forced fusion technology to make a half-human and half-gem hybrid, implanting a gem into a human's body? I would totally volunteer to have the Desert Glass implanted in me. Sand powers!

      Well, that would be an awesome concept. Or maybe yet, turning humans into gems via surgery organized by a Diamond or an organization commanded under a Diamond. (kinda like how the Japanese series Kamen Rider came to be). With that concept being said, that would remain only as a fanfiction.

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    • Poor Cennty. She couldn't much talk, missing her old gem soldiers and can't stay as a part humanoid gem. She just stays corrupted. )-`;>

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    • Centipeetle is so precious I'm glad she's happier now that she is with her crew

      It's so sad that Homeworld—or the Diamonds really—did this to all the gems we see that are now corrupted. Seeing the way Pearl and Garnet talk about it and how Pearl tells Amethyst to basically be respectful of the corrupted gems not only shows the kind of gems the CGs are compared to the Diamonds but also just how messed up corruption really is

      I just hope we can eventually see her and her crew fully healed because she deserves it (plus i was kinda sad I didn't get to see her humanoid form)

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    • TheDwarvenGuy wrote:
      Anyone else notice that there was a voice hidden within Centi's screeching?

      Yeah, think so. |-:)

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    • DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      Hey could Steven have to crack corrpted Gems to heal them? I was wondering do you guys think Centipeetle's Gem is her eyes? That she only has one eye

      I'm thinking maybe he could fall asleep and enter her mind like we see he is able to do with humans and other Gems (Lapis/Malachite/Jasper, the Cluster) and some how heal them like that

      And it seems like it is her only eye because of the way she drew herself kinda like we've seen in one of the Rubies that has a gem for one eye and how Sapphire only has one eye

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    • Yung Rose Q wrote:
      Centipeetle is so precious I'm glad she's happier now that she is with her crew

      It's so sad that Homeworld—or the Diamonds really—did this to all the gems we see that are now corrupted. Seeing the way Pearl and Garnet talk about it and how Pearl tells Amethyst to basically be respectful of the corrupted gems not only shows the kind of gems the CGs are compared to the Diamonds but also just how messed up corruption really is

      I just hope we can eventually see her and her crew fully healed because she deserves it (plus i was kinda sad I didn't get to see her humanoid form)


      You DID...kind of.. Okay, it was more a hybrid, but it's a start, at least.  But yeah, fully humanized would be nice, maybe they'll find a way to do so in the finale. Without spoiling anything, seems something BIG'S goin' down on the moon!

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    • Dinoboygreen wrote:
      Yung Rose Q wrote:
      Centipeetle is so precious I'm glad she's happier now that she is with her crew

      It's so sad that Homeworld—or the Diamonds really—did this to all the gems we see that are now corrupted. Seeing the way Pearl and Garnet talk about it and how Pearl tells Amethyst to basically be respectful of the corrupted gems not only shows the kind of gems the CGs are compared to the Diamonds but also just how messed up corruption really is

      I just hope we can eventually see her and her crew fully healed because she deserves it (plus i was kinda sad I didn't get to see her humanoid form)


      You DID...kind of.. Okay, it was more a hybrid, but it's a start, at least.  But yeah, fully humanized would be nice, maybe they'll find a way to do so in the finale. Without spoiling anything, seems something BIG'S goin' down on the moon!

      Oh are the CGs gonna fire a reversal EMP?

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    • Yeah, at first I thought she was asking Steven to go to the moon

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    • Yung Rose Q wrote:
      DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      Hey could Steven have to crack corrpted Gems to heal them? I was wondering do you guys think Centipeetle's Gem is her eyes? That she only has one eye
      I'm thinking maybe he could fall asleep and enter her mind like we see he is able to do with humans and other Gems (Lapis/Malachite/Jasper, the Cluster) and some how heal them like that

      And it seems like it is her only eye because of the way she drew herself kinda like we've seen in one of the Rubies that has a gem for one eye and how Sapphire only has one eye

      I kinda of worry about that because it's probably also a mental toture as well. Steven could easily be damaged. I wonder where the ship was could the CG and Peri just have entered a different part if this is the same ship. It just be a error.

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    • But where could the weapon be on the moon base?

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    • TheGlobster wrote:
      Have you all noticed the part when Steven asked the Centipeedle about her name, and the Centipeedle kinda mumbled a syllable "ca/ka".

      I think she said "Cap." as in "Capitain".

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    • DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      But where could the weapon be on the moon base?

      The blue floaty orb perhaps?

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    • Well, the inner part of Centi's gem looks like an iris, so yeah.

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    • Exactly, it was a big light from the sky, so it could have been a moon ray

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    • I wonder if the floating orb thingy in the diamond moon base was the thing that caused all the corrupted gems.

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    • Lourdy4675 wrote:
      I wonder if the floating orb thingy in the diamond moon base was the thing that caused all the corrupted gems.

      If that's true then couldn't they un-currupt the gems with a reverse blast?

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    • Fantastic episode but.. where was the OTHER green gem

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    • Takes plate
      COME ON AND SLAM AND WELCOME TO THE JAM
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    • Pomi098 wrote:

      Lourdy4675 wrote:
      I wonder if the floating orb thingy in the diamond moon base was the thing that caused all the corrupted gems.

      If that's true then couldn't they un-currupt the gems with a reverse blast?

      Well just because you blast someone with something a second time it doesn't reverse the effects it had on you the first time. And I doubt Homeworld would've created something to reverse corruption since it seemed to be used as a last attempt to win the war against the CG's.

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    • Cinnabar The Evil Gem Chemist 55555555555555555550 wrote:
      Fantastic episode but.. where was the OTHER green gem


      At the barn, doing her side-character stuff.

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    • It was just a possibiliy. And I was thinking more along the lines of pearl and peri fix the machine and use it too un currupt the gems

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    • Pomi098 wrote: It was just a possibiliy. And I was thinking more along the lines of pearl and peri fix the machine and use it too un currupt the gems

      That could work if they find a way to.

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    • If....

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    • Could the last one out of beach city mean that somehow the Diamonds relauched the weapon

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    • NikoUniverse wrote:
      Centipee
      Could this be Centi?


      Nah. This one has two eyes

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    • How would Steven be affected by the corruption weapon?

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    • MiniDaggers wrote: How would Steven be affected by the corruption weapon?

      That's a good question, his human half probably wouldn't be affected but idk about his gem half.

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    • because he's 1/2 human.

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    • Considering his consciousness is likely tied to his organic body, presuming a corruption wouldn't shape-shift him he should be relatively fine. Just without the ability to operate gem tech.

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    • NikoUniverse wrote:
      Could This Be Centi?
      Centipee


      Unlikely. It's pretty clear that she had only one eye, even BEFORE her unfortunate corruption.

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    • This episode was simply beautiful; I liked how both the animators and writers gave more human emotions to Centipeetle despite not being able to speak, and even more reason why Gems relate so much to Humans.

      This does raise an eyebrow about Cenitpeetle's Commander; they could be a potential enemy later in the season, which would be awesome considering that we haven't really seen all of Homeworld yet.

      Another question which would be insane is: are there some survivors fully intact without any corruption after Homeworld's invasion; a rebel sect would be nice, although it would be unlikely if this were to ever occur.

      Overall, this was a really nice episode. Hopefully later we can see Bismuth or another action-oriented episode :)

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    • Dinoboygreen wrote:
      NikoUniverse wrote:
      Could This Be Centi?
      Centipee

      Unlikely. It's pretty clear that she had only one eye, even BEFORE her unfortunate corruption.

      Plus I think those are all aristocrats, Centi was a straight up CAPTAIN-a real working woman.

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    • I havea small theory. Maybe Pink DIamond was the one who used that light beam weapon to corrupt the gems, and Homeworld didn't quite accepted it since it corrupted Homeworld Gems too. Even if it erradicated the rebels, they considered it dishonorable or coldblooded, or something like that. So they killed her.

      Or maybe she was part of the gems that got corrupted, kinda like when a captain sinks with his ship.

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    • JoyFerret wrote:
      I havea small theory. Maybe Pink DIamond was the one who used that light beam weapon to corrupt the gems, and Homeworld didn't quite accepted it since it corrupted Homeworld Gems too. Even if it erradicated the rebels, they considered it dishonorable or coldblooded, or something like that. So they killed her.

      Or maybe she was part of the gems that got corrupted, kinda like when a captain sinks with his ship.

      I don't think so, remember when Centi drew the diamonds it was THREE diamonds not four, we can assume by then that Pink Diamond was taken out.

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    • DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      But where could the weapon be on the moon base?

      "What's that?" "It's not what we came here for" "Let's go, this place gives me the creeps"

      So do you remember that weird liquidy thing with the round hole in it they passed before getting up to the command room? My theory is that that was the weapon. (animators don't give screen time to unimportant things) 

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    • Pomi098 wrote:
      Lourdy4675 wrote:
      I wonder if the floating orb thingy in the diamond moon base was the thing that caused all the corrupted gems.
      If that's true then couldn't they un-currupt the gems with a reverse blast?

      Assuming it was sound based (steven did call it a song), they would have to find a frequency that could undo it without damaging the already corrupted gems further. Also, they would likely need to unbubble all of the corrupted gems they had in the temple at once (wich may not be a good idea...)

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    • Yoshimickster wrote:
      JoyFerret wrote:
      I havea small theory. Maybe Pink DIamond was the one who used that light beam weapon to corrupt the gems, and Homeworld didn't quite accepted it since it corrupted Homeworld Gems too. Even if it erradicated the rebels, they considered it dishonorable or coldblooded, or something like that. So they killed her.

      Or maybe she was part of the gems that got corrupted, kinda like when a captain sinks with his ship.

      I don't think so, remember when Centi drew the diamonds it was THREE diamonds not four, we can assume by then that Pink Diamond was taken out.

      And another thing; from what we can infer from Peridot and Jasper before Peridot joins the CG's, Yellow Diamond's Court seems to focus on military technology, as they both have Gem Destabilizers (I dont know how to spell it). So, I propose that it is instead Yellow Diamond who launched the attack.

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    • I wonder how many Gems are Crystal Gems and Homeworld gems are corrupted . I mean think about it the experimented Gems and cluster could  be doing the world. That would make sense why the Homeworld Gems were told to leave if the Cluster was built doing this time.

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    • Could Lion be a corrupted Pink Diamond?

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    • Maybe but why would Lion's Gem not be Diamond shape?

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    • When did you see Lion's gem?

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    • DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      Maybe but why would Lion's Gem not be Diamond shape?

      Have we even seen lion's gem?

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    • DianaofParadiseIsland wrote: I wonder how many Gems are Crystal Gems and Homeworld gems are corrupted . I mean think about it the experimented Gems and cluster could  be doing the world. That would make sense why the Homeworld Gems were told to leave if the Cluster was built doing this time.

      They were also running since the diamonds were about to set off something that would corrupt every gem it hit.

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    • Alright! Matt Burnett says this episode is a fan theory fuel! Make your fan theory NOW!!

      So there's no Pink Diamond? I think it possibility that she betray The Diamond Authority which could explain of why Centipeetle didn't draw the fourth diamond

      So it confirm that Diamond Authority have a flashy weapon that can turned a normal gem into a corrupted gem

      I wonder if Yellow Diamond will use her flashy weapon to corrupted Garnet, Amethyst and Pearl? Maybe... Which will have Steven use THE POWER OF LOVE to uncorrupted Crystal Gems!

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    • When Rebecca Sugar said Stevn is definitely a Leo during the Comic Con that got me thinking about what Lion could be...

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    • So the Gems have their own form of language in writing. I wonder why they don't speak their own language and instead use English.

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    • I do wonder when could Cluster have been built.

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    • DianaofParadiseIsland wrote: I do wonder when could Cluster have been built.

      I assume they started creating it once they realised they weren't going to win the war which might've been half was or towards the end of the rebellion.

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    • Jacksierp wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      If they're willing to turn their loyal soldiers into corrupted gems then would they be willing to turn a human into...no never mind let's not worry about that
      What if they used the forced fusion technology to make a half-human and half-gem hybrid, implanting a gem into a human's body? I would totally volunteer to have the Desert Glass implanted in me. Sand powers!

      Not that homeworld would be interested in that because they don't see any value in organics, but isn't that more or less what Steven is?  I think there is probably one other character on the show that is also a hybrid, but that is a theory for another thread.

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    • Tneory MC Bear Bear will no longer be an inanimate object.

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    • Oldasdirt wrote:
      Jacksierp wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      If they're willing to turn their loyal soldiers into corrupted gems then would they be willing to turn a human into...no never mind let's not worry about that
      What if they used the forced fusion technology to make a half-human and half-gem hybrid, implanting a gem into a human's body? I would totally volunteer to have the Desert Glass implanted in me. Sand powers!
      Not that homeworld would be interested in that because they don't see any value in organics, but isn't that more or less what Steven is?  I think there is probably one other character on the show that is also a hybrid, but that is a theory for another thread.

      I guess I'm just going off of Peridot saying Steven's a hybrid, I was wondering why they made the term considering the fact that they don't like organics and then I was like 'wait could they have tried implanting gems into organic life like aliens that they may have captured in an attempt to make brainwashed soldiers to help take over the planet they want to invade by pulling a Reach and saying, "We come in peace" then they poison the drinking water and boom new colony'

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    • NikoUniverse wrote:

      Tneory MC Bear Bear will no longer be an inanimate object.



      Best tneory

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    • NikoUniverse wrote:
      PINK DIAMOND!!! Or at least something Pink and diamond shaped

      Empty Bubble!?

      Something Blue!

      A rectangle GEM!

      Something that looks like Amethyst!

      Full

      Well only Diamonds are made Diamonds. Unless Pink Diamond was corrupted. Could you imgaine how much bigger she proabably was. I wonder could the Diamonds since they could be possible Gods in Homeworld  whate could be their weapons

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    • DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      NikoUniverse wrote:
      PINK DIAMOND!!! Or at least something Pink and diamond shaped

      Empty Bubble!?

      Something Blue!

      A rectangle GEM!

      Something that looks like Amethyst!

      Full
      Well only Diamonds are made Diamonds. Unless Pink Diamond was corrupted. Could you imgaine how much bigger she proabably was. I wonder could the Diamonds since they could be possible Gods in Homeworld  whate could be their weapons

      I realized Diamonds are really shape like the shape "Diamond"... I'm just playing around

      That looks more like a Quartz 

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    • MiniDaggers wrote:
      I think it was likely the same ship.

      As for hiding, it would go with my theory that they were fairly normal mentally by that point, only being stuck in their forms due to not being poofed.

      It was the exact same background art used in "Friend Ship" when Steven and Centi arrived at the ship. However the door was overgrown and locked, so that seems to indicate it wasn't the same ship.

      MAYBE it was the same ship, but just a different compartment, with a separate door.

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    • AquaticPanic wrote:

      NikoUniverse wrote:

      Tneory MC Bear Bear will no longer be an inanimate object.


      Best theory

      IT IS!!!! hahaha

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    • NikoUniverse wrote:
      Tneory MC Bear Bear will no longer be an inanimate object.

      Wait. Wasn't one of those horror movies Ronaldo watches about a bear doll that comes to life, or something like that?

      Looked it up. In Horror Club they are watching "Evil Bear 2". On the cover of the video box the bear looks more like a doll bear than a real bear. The episode does not mention anything about Evil Bear being a doll, but maybe...

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    • I wonder is this REALLY JUST DESIGN? or does it MEAN SOMETHING?

      Ab
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    • Man I hope the in universe timeline is more then just a couple days apart, for each episode I mean, because if not Steven's gonna have a mental break down pretty soon. This week alone so far

      1. Almost got branded

      2. Sleep deprived

      3. Watched his friend slowly become recorrupted

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    • NikoUniverse wrote:

      AquaticPanic wrote:


      NikoUniverse wrote:


      Tneory MC Bear Bear will no longer be an inanimate object.



      Best theory



      IT IS!!!! hahaha




      Funny how you noticed my error but didn't notice yours lol

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Man I hope the in universe timeline is more then just a couple days apart, for each episode I mean, because if not Steven's gonna have a mental break down pretty soon. This week alone so far

      1. Almost got branded

      2. Sleep deprived

      3. Watched his friend slowly become recorrupted

      4. Is rapidly gaining superhuman abilities which put massive responsibility on his shoulders.

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    • TheDwarvenGuy wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Man I hope the in universe timeline is more then just a couple days apart, for each episode I mean, because if not Steven's gonna have a mental break down pretty soon. This week alone so far

      1. Almost got branded

      2. Sleep deprived

      3. Watched his friend slowly become recorrupted

      4. Is rapidly gaining superhuman abilities which put massive responsibility on his shoulders.

      Yeah not to mention that, seriously when this series ends he's gonna need a few months of therapy oh and

      5. Keeps entering dreams by accident which could cause problems in the future

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:

      Yeah not to mention that, seriously when this series ends he's gonna need a few months of therapy oh and

      5. Keeps entering dreams by accident which could cause problems in the future

      Agreed, he needs to put a cap on that among ALL his powers.

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      5. Keeps entering dreams by accident which could cause problems in the future

      (insert dirty joke here)

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      TheDwarvenGuy wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Man I hope the in universe timeline is more then just a couple days apart, for each episode I mean, because if not Steven's gonna have a mental break down pretty soon. This week alone so far

      1. Almost got branded

      2. Sleep deprived

      3. Watched his friend slowly become recorrupted

      4. Is rapidly gaining superhuman abilities which put massive responsibility on his shoulders.
      Yeah not to mention that, seriously when this series ends he's gonna need a few months of therapy oh and

      5. Keeps entering dreams by accident which could cause problems in the future

      6. Accidentally posseses someone's body

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    • AquaticPanic wrote:

      NikoUniverse wrote:

      AquaticPanic wrote:


      NikoUniverse wrote:


      Theory MC Bear Bear will no longer be an inanimate object.


      Best theory


      IT IS!!!! hahaha



      Funny how you noticed my error but didn't notice yours lol

      Hahaha didn't notice that XP....h and n are so near eachother on the keyboard aren't they?

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    • AquaticPanic wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      TheDwarvenGuy wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Man I hope the in universe timeline is more then just a couple days apart, for each episode I mean, because if not Steven's gonna have a mental break down pretty soon. This week alone so far

      1. Almost got branded

      2. Sleep deprived

      3. Watched his friend slowly become recorrupted

      4. Is rapidly gaining superhuman abilities which put massive responsibility on his shoulders.
      Yeah not to mention that, seriously when this series ends he's gonna need a few months of therapy oh and

      5. Keeps entering dreams by accident which could cause problems in the future

      6. Accidentally posseses someone's body

      7. Becomes a teenage driver. This is the most dangerous of all.

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    • So...the Diamonds authorized that corruption beam, but not all Homeworld Gems made it off the planet. But there were only 3 Diamonds at the time. Pink Diamond...did the other 3 oust her from the Authority? Was Rose her personal commander?

      I find it strange that most of Rose's abilities seem to surpass most other Gems made for combat. Was she the only Rose Quartz that was made? Was she made for Pink Diamond's personal use?

      I also have a seperate theory regarding to what Lion is and how he relates to Rose.

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    • Dinoboygreen wrote:
      Pomi098 wrote:
      MikeOfWind wrote:
      Ratit wrote:
      DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      It looked to be Yellow Diamond.
      Yellow Diamond with a perm tho
      It may be Yellow Diamond's past outfit 
      Are you saying YD got poofed?

      Possibly...though not likely. From what we can tell, Diamonds are indestructible in terms of taking major damage (i.e. they haven't been shattered, nor poofed as far as we know).

      I think Gems can just change their style. Pearl and the Crystal Gems have worn several outfits just whenever they need to change. Like 80's Pearl, the Crystal Gems in that picture where Garnet is punching the shark, even now a days. Its probably not impossible for them to just alter their form without being poofed.

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    • ACWeapons wrote:
      So...the Diamonds authorized that corruption beam, but not all Homeworld Gems made it off the planet. But there were only 3 Diamonds at the time. Pink Diamond...did the other 3 oust her from the Authority? Was Rose her personal commander?

      I find it strange that most of Rose's abilities seem to surpass most other Gems made for combat. Was she the only Rose Quartz that was made? Was she made for Pink Diamond's personal use?

      I also have a seperate theory regarding to what Lion is and how he relates to Rose.


      I like that theory that she was the only one. I think that every diamond has their own personal kind of quartz

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    • TheGlobster wrote:

      Jacksierp wrote:

      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      If they're willing to turn their loyal soldiers into corrupted gems then would they be willing to turn a human into...no never mind let's not worry about that
      What if they used the forced fusion technology to make a half-human and half-gem hybrid, implanting a gem into a human's body? I would totally volunteer to have the Desert Glass implanted in me. Sand powers!

      Well, that would be an awesome concept. Or maybe yet, turning humans into gems via surgery organized by a Diamond or an organization commanded under a Diamond. (kinda like how the Japanese series Kamen Rider came to be). With that concept being said, that would remain only as a fanfiction.

      That would be an interesting plot element. A while ago I made a Gemsona named Amber, who used to be a human but became a Gem through circumstances I am still trying to work through (I don't want to make it lame). One concept I thought of was, since Gems suck the life out of the ground once implanted, that her life force was somehow absorbed from her body into a Gem (an amber, hence the name) that was planted afterwards and incubated like any other Gem.

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    • Corrupted Gems. Is it possible that they became the mythological monsters in various human myths throughout the millenia?

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    • Ronaldo Smith wrote:
      AquaticPanic wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      TheDwarvenGuy wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Man I hope the in universe timeline is more then just a couple days apart, for each episode I mean, because if not Steven's gonna have a mental break down pretty soon. This week alone so far

      1. Almost got branded

      2. Sleep deprived

      3. Watched his friend slowly become recorrupted

      4. Is rapidly gaining superhuman abilities which put massive responsibility on his shoulders.
      Yeah not to mention that, seriously when this series ends he's gonna need a few months of therapy oh and

      5. Keeps entering dreams by accident which could cause problems in the future

      6. Accidentally posseses someone's body
      7. Becomes a teenage driver. This is the most dangerous of all.

      8. Almost dies from falling out of the sky

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    • I guess this episode confirms that the giant explosion seen at the end of Lapis' tale in "Same Old World" was the detonation of this Gem superweapon.

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    • AquaticPanic wrote:
      ACWeapons wrote:
      So...the Diamonds authorized that corruption beam, but not all Homeworld Gems made it off the planet. But there were only 3 Diamonds at the time. Pink Diamond...did the other 3 oust her from the Authority? Was Rose her personal commander?

      I find it strange that most of Rose's abilities seem to surpass most other Gems made for combat. Was she the only Rose Quartz that was made? Was she made for Pink Diamond's personal use?

      I also have a seperate theory regarding to what Lion is and how he relates to Rose.


      I like that theory that she was the only one. I think that every diamond has their own personal kind of quartz

      I do too. I have always thought of Pink Diamond being an outcast for her kindness, and that in turn would be why Rose loved Earth and everything on it and Steven and her willingness to give her life. I feel like Rose would be very special to Pink Diamond.

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    • Rebecca Sugar "Why You Hide So Many Things From Us" ... hahahaha

      They say 10 mins is enough....I want more *cries like a baby

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    • ACWeapons wrote:
      Corrupted Gems. Is it possible that they became the mythological monsters in various human myths throughout the millenia?

      Well they do have influence in history as seen in Bomb 3

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    • So the centipeedles are fine with being corrupted? or did steven give the centipeedle mother a humanoid form by accident?


      Im kinda confused here.

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    • That thing that corrupted Gems. I think it doens't affect humans and only Gems themselves. We saw that a majority of their tech doesn't work on regular people.

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    • AquaticPanic wrote:
      ACWeapons wrote:
      So...the Diamonds authorized that corruption beam, but not all Homeworld Gems made it off the planet. But there were only 3 Diamonds at the time. Pink Diamond...did the other 3 oust her from the Authority? Was Rose her personal commander?

      I find it strange that most of Rose's abilities seem to surpass most other Gems made for combat. Was she the only Rose Quartz that was made? Was she made for Pink Diamond's personal use?

      I also have a seperate theory regarding to what Lion is and how he relates to Rose.


      I like that theory that she was the only one. I think that every diamond has their own personal kind of quartz

      So who do you think is Yellow Diamond's personal Gem? I know it isn't a Pearl or Jasper. Jasper herself is a capable soldier, but she doesn't strike me as unique.

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    • ACWeapons wrote:

      So who do you think is Yellow Diamond's personal Gem? I know it isn't a Pearl or Jasper. Jasper herself is a capable soldier, but she doesn't strike me as unique.

      Definetly not Jasper, as in Message Received she said "Where's the jasper I've assigned you" implying there's more. Mabye a specific kind of Jasper but not ours.

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    • So the diamonds created all the corrupted gems with some kind of weapon. Well now I have 2 questions:

      1) what was the weapon

      2) did the diamonds know this was going to happen

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    • AquaticPanic wrote:
      ACWeapons wrote:
      Corrupted Gems. Is it possible that they became the mythological monsters in various human myths throughout the millenia?
      Well they do have influence in history as seen in Bomb 3  

      Most likely, like in Transformers all the monsters in mythology were Decepticons...the more this show has in common with Transformers the eerier it gets.

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    • Peribab wrote: The episode "Monster Reunion" adds more evidence to the Rose=Pink Diamond theory.

      The whole Centipeedle backstory took place during the war/revolution. When Centi was drawing for Steven, she only drew three diamonds, with the bottom diamond, also known as Pink Diamond, missing.Well, during the revolution, Rose/ Pink Diamond became a rebel. So, the Gem Government took out her out of the insignia. Hence Centi draws three diamonds instead of four.

      ....No. It really doesn't add to this theory at all. All it suggests is that there WAS a Pink Diamond, during wartimes something happened to her, and now, there's no Pink Diamond. Nothing about Rose.

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    • AquaticPanic wrote:

      ACWeapons wrote:

      So who do you think is Yellow Diamond's personal Gem? I know it isn't a Pearl or Jasper. Jasper herself is a capable soldier, but she doesn't strike me as unique.

      Definetly not Jasper, as in Message Received she said "Where's the jasper I've assigned you" implying there's more. Mabye a specific kind of Jasper but not ours.

      Yellow's champion (Assuming something of that sort exists.)... Maybe it's a Citrine? that sounds about right. Maybe she's even that gem that was commanding Centipeetle's squad?

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    • I wonder do you guys think the steve crew will kinda of create the Gem language

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    • CrystalBren wrote: I do too. I have always thought of Pink Diamond being an outcast for her kindness, and that in turn would be why Rose loved Earth and everything on it and Steven and her willingness to give her life. I feel like Rose would be very special to Pink Diamond.

      But then why is ROSE special? Rose is the leader of the Crystal Gems. all of this was said to be the result of Rose's decisions and ability to empathize with the inhabitants of the Earth. I'm not saying Rose is PERFECT, but it really does make her pretty unremarkable if she was just doing what a Diamond told her to do. In fact, I'd argue that'd be character-damaging, and would undercut all of her achievements if that WERE the case....No, I have a feeling Pink Diamond has a different role to play- I don't believe she's Rose, I don't believe she inspired Rose.

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    • DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      I wonder do you guys think the steve crew will kinda of create the Gem language

      They might have already. A lot of the architecture in the past episodes show some sort of Gem script.

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    • I'm more interested in what this episode entails for Corrupted Gems can do in the future. Once Homeworld discovers the Cluster is not a viable weapon anymore, what's to stop them from coming to invade Earth a second time and have another war? If Steven and the Crystal Gems can find a way to fix the Corrupted Gems, they have the means to rally an army. The Bubble Room already has enough Gems for an army, and Steven is capable of getting them to side with him, whether they be former Crystal or Homeworld factions. They might have a chance of defending from another invasion and possibly stopping the Diamonds permanently.

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    • Well if they remember what the Diamonds did to them they'd probably turn against them

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    • I wonder ig the Crew has at least worked on making the langage. Like having actually letters and words. Show of the letters  seem to have is chinese and japanese characters.

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    • ACWeapons wrote:
      I'm more interested in what this episode entails for Corrupted Gems can do in the future. Once Homeworld discovers the Cluster is not a viable weapon anymore, what's to stop them from coming to invade Earth a second time and have another war? If Steven and the Crystal Gems can find a way to fix the Corrupted Gems, they have the means to rally an army. The Bubble Room already has enough Gems for an army, and Steven is capable of getting them to side with him, whether they be former Crystal or Homeworld factions. They might have a chance of defending from another invasion and possibly stopping the Diamonds permanently.

      One problem neither Steven  or Rose was able to heal the Gems completely.  Also Homeworld probably can't afforded  another war due to resources running low. So it seems that while Era 2 Gems have powers the lowers Gems don't have as much powers.  Althought I wonder why give lower gems powers anyway? I mean Pearls maybe to protected their masters.

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    • But seriously, even fighting 1 Diamond will not be easy. They have the means of killing everyone and everything on Earth if the Crystal Gems aren't ready for it. But makes me wonder why they never decided to destroy Earth after realizing the CGs are still active.

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    • My opinions on the episode? Underwhelming. I know a lot of it is just my own expectations (I didn't expect the Centipeetle to fully recover, but I was hoping for a more eventful story.) to quote something I said on Twitter, "I'm surprised how much I couldn't feel for Centi... I CRIED in Monster Buddies, but here, I just felt... Mild Empathy?". I was expecting a big emotional PAWNCH, but no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't bring myself to feel much of ANYTHING. It's cool that we got this backstory, but we still don't know her NAME. Oh, she has amnesia? Nevermind. even when she's transforming back, I feel nothing. and I think part of that is Steven doesn't even seem to be emotionally invested either! he's not crying, or calling for help, or showing hardly any signs of panic or desperation. He even made a small quip while trying to open the door. he's not acting like it's a big deal that he's quickly losing his friend to corruption- he's acting like he's trying to get a pizza back to his house before it gets cold! I don't hate this episode, but it wasn't able to leave any emotional impact on me whatsoever, and I'm just left here wondering when Steven will catch on to the OBVIOUS key to solving this problem that Garnet left for him on a silver platter- DREAM POWERS. USE THEM ON CENTIPEETLE AND FIX HER LIKE YOU DID WITH KIKI.

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    • ACWeapons wrote:
       But makes me wonder why they never decided to destroy Earth after realizing the CGs are still active.

      They did

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    • I knew the Diamonds used some form of weapon to turn Rose's army into Gem Monsters! Also I guessed that some of their own army got caught in the blast as well. THe big question I still have however is could Steven when he gets older fully heal Centipeetle and the other Corrupted? I mean if he combined his healing powers with his mind powers couldn't he fix their broken minds?

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    • LucasVerBeek wrote:
      I knew the Diamonds used some form of weapon to turn Rose's army into Gem Monsters! Also I guessed that some of their own army got caught in the blast as well. THe big question I still have however is could Steven when he gets older fully heal Centipeetle and the other Corrupted? I mean if he combined his healing powers with his mind powers couldn't he fix their broken minds?


      But he has the same powers has roses. Also wouldn't his mind be broken if he uses his mind powers?

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    • How so? We can see that he can enter other's mind and influence them in some way or another so perhaps when he is stronger he could use that influence to piece their minds back together agaim though I doubt it would be easy.

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    • DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      ACWeapons wrote:
      I'm more interested in what this episode entails for Corrupted Gems can do in the future. Once Homeworld discovers the Cluster is not a viable weapon anymore, what's to stop them from coming to invade Earth a second time and have another war? If Steven and the Crystal Gems can find a way to fix the Corrupted Gems, they have the means to rally an army. The Bubble Room already has enough Gems for an army, and Steven is capable of getting them to side with him, whether they be former Crystal or Homeworld factions. They might have a chance of defending from another invasion and possibly stopping the Diamonds permanently.
      One problem neither Steven  or Rose was able to heal the Gems completely.  Also Homeworld probably can't afforded  another war due to resources running low. So it seems that while Era 2 Gems have powers the lowers Gems don't have as much powers.  Althought I wonder why give lower gems powers anyway? I mean Pearls maybe to protected their masters.


      While this is true, there is one way to do this: Pearl and Garnet made it clear that this damage is not a physical, but psychological. And since Steven is now confirmed to have the power to enter people's dreams like a non-deadly Freddy Kruger, it's likely that, if he can just visualize someone like Centipeetle long enough in his dreams, he can fix her psyche and possibly others so that they can be rallied to save Earth.

      It's a long shot, I admit, but hey, I'm not about to throw it out the window just yet.

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    • It's possible, but he has not attempted to master this ability. The closest he came to mind fixing was calming down the scattered collective mind of the Cluster. That was still not repairing a mind though.

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    • SUDDEN REALIZATION

      Rebecca Sugar What?
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    • ACWeapons wrote:
      It's possible, but he has not attempted to master this ability. The closest he came to mind fixing was calming down the scattered collective mind of the Cluster. That was still not repairing a mind though.


      True, but he's still a KID. Kids don't get it perfect the first time; besides, I DID say it was a long shot. Possibly something saved for Season 4-5.

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    • NikoUniverse wrote:
      SUDDEN REALIZATION
      Rebecca Sugar What?

      Headcannon accepted!

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    • You know when it's serious when she change crayola color

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    • Dinoboygreen wrote:
      NikoUniverse wrote:
      SUDDEN REALIZATION
      Rebecca Sugar What?
      Headcannon accepted!
      HeadCanonTypo

      Allways Czech your speeling kits!


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    • Has any one made a page for the corrupto-bomb?

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    • So the pink diamond was part of the moonbase symbol but not the colony ship symbol.  Going by the chronology of events as told by Centi, the ship was sent to build on Earth before the rebellion began. This would indicate the moonbase was built first to plan the colony, Pink D was shattered at some point after thst place was built but before the actual collonisation ships were dispatched (long enough for them to redesign their logos anyways)

      Possible theory that fits the facts: Pink D was sent to plan the colony, saw what the planet had in terms of potential, came back to warn the other 3 D's not to build there lest they squander it (and likely foreseeing the decline in resources that Peridot mentioned should they hold their course) was shattered by the other 3 for 'un-diamondlike' behaviour, the order to colonise was then sent out (perhaps needing unaniomous consent) and Pink D's second in command then insighed the rebellion (especially if she knew Pink D's last wishes) My theory is therefore that Rose wasnt Pink Diamond but was likely at the very least her second in command.

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    • MissFitt wrote:
      TheGlobster wrote:

      Jacksierp wrote:


      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      If they're willing to turn their loyal soldiers into corrupted gems then would they be willing to turn a human into...no never mind let's not worry about that
      What if they used the forced fusion technology to make a half-human and half-gem hybrid, implanting a gem into a human's body? I would totally volunteer to have the Desert Glass implanted in me. Sand powers!
      Well, that would be an awesome concept. Or maybe yet, turning humans into gems via surgery organized by a Diamond or an organization commanded under a Diamond. (kinda like how the Japanese series Kamen Rider came to be). With that concept being said, that would remain only as a fanfiction.
      That would be an interesting plot element. A while ago I made a Gemsona named Amber, who used to be a human but became a Gem through circumstances I am still trying to work through (I don't want to make it lame). One concept I thought of was, since Gems suck the life out of the ground once implanted, that her life force was somehow absorbed from her body into a Gem (an amber, hence the name) that was planted afterwards and incubated like any other Gem.

      That could work or maybe they implant the being's memories into an inactive gemstone then put the gemstone into the being. The gemstone will then connect to it's host and bam you've got an infiltrator.

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    • I am late, I did t get a chance to say anything yestrday. This episode was great. It hit you hard with the feels. REALLY REALLY HARD. it felt like getting hit with a bus of feels, I rate this episode 8-10 becuase my hopes was centi's healing would last a bit longer than one episode.

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    • I have a feeling that Pink Diamond may have been accidentally corrupted by that light also.

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    • Peribab wrote: The episode "Monster Reunion" adds more evidence to the Rose=Pink Diamond theory.

      The whole Centipeedle backstory took place during the war/revolution. When Centi was drawing for Steven, she only drew three diamonds, with the bottom diamond, also known as Pink Diamond, missing.Well, during the revolution, Rose/ Pink Diamond became a rebel. So, the Gem Government took out her out of the insignia. Hence Centi draws three diamonds instead of four.

      Impossible everything that we have learned about gems so far leads to Rose being a Quartz. She simply does not look like a Diamond Nor is she the size of one, yet has all of the traits of a Quartz. Also all Diamonds have a ( <> ) shaped gem, Rose does not.Even Rose's personality and mannerism are not special as we see "Navy" the ruby with the same placement as her acts alot like her, being nice, soft spoken, passive and flamboyant.

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    • I was watched episode and i mental breakdown and i'm so sad it was for me the saddest stuff in SU ever ! How Centi was try to get to warp pad before she will be get fully corrupted was so sad and hard to watch but she is with her crew now but i have two theories

      1 Pink Diamond was "removed" from Diamends just before the war was started because the new logo of Diamonds was make after war. Centi draw old logo but just without PD

      2 Her crew was on ship but they got corrupted anyway so meybe they were just waited for Capitan get on ship and got corrupted in time

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    • Yeah agreed on all those above, this episode is the first episode that literally made me dropped tears...like whooa it's rarely happen to me and this simple and humble cartoon actually managed to do that it's really wow. 

      Okay so theory time, for some reason I kind of think corrupting gem is like...one of the Diamond's power? Like...Rose can heal cracked gems then...maybe some gems probably can corrupt other gems too?

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    • I saw a couple of people say that Centipeedle's real name might be Maw-sit-sit after hearing Steven's "translation" of gurgle-click-click. To back that up (kinda) there's some info I found on that stone: the dominant mineral species is kosmochlor, at one point called ureyite, which has the meaning 'green from outer space'. 

      Anyone think it works? 

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    • SparrowQuartz wrote: Yeah agreed on all those above, this episode is the first episode that literally made me dropped tears...like whooa it's rarely happen to me and this simple and humble cartoon actually managed to do that it's really wow. 

      Okay so theory time, for some reason I kind of think corrupting gem is like...one of the Diamond's power? Like...Rose can heal cracked gems then...maybe some gems probably can corrupt other gems too?

      Well,Peridot did say Gems were created to serve the diamonds, they can probably take control of them or who knows, they could have literal godlike powers, I mean when you have magical being that is feared and described as flawless their power must be amazing.

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    • SUoveranalyzer wrote:

      Peribab wrote: The episode "Monster Reunion" adds more evidence to the Rose=Pink Diamond theory.

      The whole Centipeedle backstory took place during the war/revolution. When Centi was drawing for Steven, she only drew three diamonds, with the bottom diamond, also known as Pink Diamond, missing.Well, during the revolution, Rose/ Pink Diamond became a rebel. So, the Gem Government took out her out of the insignia. Hence Centi draws three diamonds instead of four.

      Impossible everything that we have learned about gems so far leads to Rose being a Quartz. She simply does not look like a Diamond Nor is she the size of one, yet has all of the traits of a Quartz. Also all Diamonds have a ( <> ) shaped gem, Rose does not.Even Rose's personality and mannerism are not special as we see "Navy" the ruby with the same placement as her acts alot like her, being nice, soft spoken, passive and flamboyant.

      I really don't think that Rose was actually a Quartz...shapeshifting is a thing after all. Plus all of her abilites don't match what he know about Quartz gems at all.

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    • LucasVerBeek wrote:
      SUoveranalyzer wrote:

      Peribab wrote: The episode "Monster Reunion" adds more evidence to the Rose=Pink Diamond theory.

      The whole Centipeedle backstory took place during the war/revolution. When Centi was drawing for Steven, she only drew three diamonds, with the bottom diamond, also known as Pink Diamond, missing.Well, during the revolution, Rose/ Pink Diamond became a rebel. So, the Gem Government took out her out of the insignia. Hence Centi draws three diamonds instead of four.

      Impossible everything that we have learned about gems so far leads to Rose being a Quartz. She simply does not look like a Diamond Nor is she the size of one, yet has all of the traits of a Quartz. Also all Diamonds have a ( <> ) shaped gem, Rose does not.Even Rose's personality and mannerism are not special as we see "Navy" the ruby with the same placement as her acts alot like her, being nice, soft spoken, passive and flamboyant.
      I really don't think that Rose was actually a Quartz...shapeshifting is a thing after all. Plus all of her abilites don't match what he know about Quartz gems at all.

      Again, THE PRODUCERS OF THE SHOW confirmed she is a quartz.

      Let. It. Die.


      Stopeetle
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    • NO! You can't make me! You're not my mom!

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    • That picture just made me smile =)

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    • AquaticPanic wrote:
      LucasVerBeek wrote:
      SUoveranalyzer wrote:

      Peribab wrote: The episode "Monster Reunion" adds more evidence to the Rose=Pink Diamond theory.

      The whole Centipeedle backstory took place during the war/revolution. When Centi was drawing for Steven, she only drew three diamonds, with the bottom diamond, also known as Pink Diamond, missing.Well, during the revolution, Rose/ Pink Diamond became a rebel. So, the Gem Government took out her out of the insignia. Hence Centi draws three diamonds instead of four.

      Impossible everything that we have learned about gems so far leads to Rose being a Quartz. She simply does not look like a Diamond Nor is she the size of one, yet has all of the traits of a Quartz. Also all Diamonds have a ( <> ) shaped gem, Rose does not.Even Rose's personality and mannerism are not special as we see "Navy" the ruby with the same placement as her acts alot like her, being nice, soft spoken, passive and flamboyant.
      I really don't think that Rose was actually a Quartz...shapeshifting is a thing after all. Plus all of her abilites don't match what he know about Quartz gems at all.
      Again, THE PRODUCERS OF THE SHOW confirmed she is a quartz.

      Let. It. Die.


      Stopeetle

      Maybe she WAS Pink Diamond, but used her dream walking abilities to put her soul in a new Quartz body, than destroyed her original one?

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    • Yoshimickster wrote:

      Maybe she WAS Pink Diamond, but used her dream walking abilities to put her soul in a new Quartz body, than destroyed her original one?

      It is possible, but there is not proof for this yet, so it isn't even a theory.

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    • Lourdy4675 wrote:
      So the Gems have their own form of language in writing. I wonder why they don't speak their own language and instead use English.

      I think English is their own language, and Humans get it from the Gems.

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    • ehh, i retract my statement, it may not be her YD as I keep looking at the picture.

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    • I wish I can read and understand gem language.

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    • LionGuy97 wrote:
      I think the "commander" was YD. I'm just using context, but The Centipedle was using that salute that seems to be the one you use when addressing a diamond.... Not to mention she's yellow, her gem is on her chest, and she has a cropped updo type hairstyle.

      The only problem is that her Gem is retangle not a Diamond shape

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    • DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      LionGuy97 wrote:
      I think the "commander" was YD. I'm just using context, but The Centipedle was using that salute that seems to be the one you use when addressing a diamond.... Not to mention she's yellow, her gem is on her chest, and she has a cropped updo type hairstyle.
      The only problem is that her Gem is retangle not a Diamond shape

      This proves that Pink Diamond was on Earth but what side was she fighting on? I mean Centi was homeworld Gem. So CG don't care if they are homeworld or Crystal Gems. It could be because Garnet's future shows that they will change sides

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    • Steven must have learned his lesson about anger and hate from "Beach City Drift" because after learning all this, how could not be angry at the Diamonds for what they did. I mean come on, they deserve some Kevin like heat.

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    • DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      LionGuy97 wrote:
      I think the "commander" was YD. I'm just using context, but The Centipedle was using that salute that seems to be the one you use when addressing a diamond.... Not to mention she's yellow, her gem is on her chest, and she has a cropped updo type hairstyle.
      The only problem is that her Gem is retangle not a Diamond shape
      This proves that Pink Diamond was on Earth but what side was she fighting on? I mean Centi was homeworld Gem. So CG don't care if they are homeworld or Crystal Gems. It could be because Garnet's future shows that they will change sides

      I think it's because gems are disposable to the diamonds. Like they're just minions, and they'll bomb the whole place even if some of their own are still on the planet. The gem race is incredibly warmongering.....

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    • Sadly only a few can enjoy peace without having to fight.

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    • Zzfunk wrote:
      Steven must have learned his lesson about anger and hate from "Beach City Drift" because after learning all this, how could not be angry at the Diamonds for what they did. I mean come on, they deserve some Kevin like heat.

      Someone else pointed this out, I don't know who.

      Try to kill Steven - Steven: I'm sure you didn't mean to, let me heal your Gem.

      Threaten the Earth and all life - Steven: If they just got to know the Earth maybe they'll be nice.


      Poof Garnet and headbutt Steven - Steven: I'm sure it's all a misunderstanding. 

      Make Connie uncomfortable - Steven: I WILL HATE YOU FOREVER!!!!

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    • Ronaldo Smith wrote:
      Zzfunk wrote:
      Steven must have learned his lesson about anger and hate from "Beach City Drift" because after learning all this, how could not be angry at the Diamonds for what they did. I mean come on, they deserve some Kevin like heat.
      Someone else pointed this out, I don't know who.

      Try to kill Steven - Steven: I'm sure you didn't mean to, let me heal your Gem.

      Threaten the Earth and all life - Steven: If they just got to know the Earth maybe they'll be nice.


      Poof Garnet and headbutt Steven - Steven: I'm sure it's all a misunderstanding. 

      Make Connie uncomfortable - Steven: I WILL HATE YOU FOREVER!!!!

      Perhaps he's so emotional about it because he's going through puberty. This would correspond to him getting his powers.

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    • TheDwarvenGuy wrote:
      Ronaldo Smith wrote:
      Zzfunk wrote:
      Steven must have learned his lesson about anger and hate from "Beach City Drift" because after learning all this, how could not be angry at the Diamonds for what they did. I mean come on, they deserve some Kevin like heat.
      Someone else pointed this out, I don't know who.

      Try to kill Steven - Steven: I'm sure you didn't mean to, let me heal your Gem.

      Threaten the Earth and all life - Steven: If they just got to know the Earth maybe they'll be nice.


      Poof Garnet and headbutt Steven - Steven: I'm sure it's all a misunderstanding. 

      Make Connie uncomfortable - Steven: I WILL HATE YOU FOREVER!!!!

      Perhaps he's so emotional about it because he's going through puberty. This would correspond to him getting his powers.

      Exacitacily. And getting some facial stuble.

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    • I just wish if Steven has to be so chill about this infromation, and not be furious at the Diamonds, I wish Garnet or Pearl would convayed the anger that us the viewers have.

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    • Let me get this thought to all who don't understand, If the crew says something about the she,and if they are serius, that means it is true. Now if you say something to conflicts with that it means your not right most of the time. SO STOP WITH THE ROSE=PINK DIAMOND. THE CREW SAID SHE WAS A QUARTZ SO GIVE IT UP THE CREW SAID YOU WERE WRONG AND SHE IS A QUARTZ NOT A DIAMOND, AS THAT ONE PERSON KEEPS SAYING.

      LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE. I THINK I MADE MY POINT!

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    • Steven universe is cool wrote:
      Let me get this thought to all who don't understand,

      If the crew says something about the she,and if they are serius, that means it is true. Now if you say something to conflicts with that it means your not right most of the time. SO STOP WITH THE ROSE=PINK DIAMOND. THE CREW SAID SHE WAS A QUARTZ SO GIVE IT UP THE CREW SAID YOU WERE WRONG AND SHE IS A QUARTZ NOT A DIAMOND, AS THAT ONE PERSON KEEPS SAYING.

      LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE. I THINK I MADE MY POINT!

      Please don't spam.

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    • Zzfunk wrote:
      I just wish if Steven has to be so chill about this infromation, and not be furious at the Diamonds, I wish Garnet or Pearl would convayed the anger that us the viewers have.


      I'm sure Garnet does; she just has this habit of keeping said anger hidden, say for one or two exceptions.

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    • Cheetah-shooter wrote:
      Yoshimickster wrote:

      Maybe she WAS Pink Diamond, but used her dream walking abilities to put her soul in a new Quartz body, than destroyed her original one?

      It is possible, but there is not proof for this yet, so it isn't even a theory.

      Yes, because ALL theories have proof.

      ALSO-don't people what to do "Steven Universe Is Cool", people have a right to what they believe.

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    • This episode basically confirmed some of my old theories and added important facts.

      So, it's likely that after the decisive Crystal Gem victory at the now-called "Strawberry Battlefield", Homeworld's Earth Legion (the Kindergarten Gems) got completely wiped out, turning the tides of the war and leaving the loyalist faction defenseless. Soon, the situation would become chaotic, as Gems would be desperately rushing to the nearest Warp Pad with the Crystal Gem Army right behind them, pushing them back to Homeworld.

      The Galaxy Warp was probably so full of Gems that some had to use 1.000 years-old spaceships to escape. Centipeetle got lost in the confusion, along with Mirror Lapis, who got cracked.

      Time was running low, as the Diamonds were preparing their ultimate weapon against the incoming rebels; those who couldn't reach the Warp Pads/Ships were bound to be left behind. It was that or facing the risk of a possible invasion.

      Except for Rose and those next to her, all Crystal Gems got corrupted by the so-called "Damage of The Diamonds", while some Homeworld Gems suffered from the same fate.

      I was wondering... Assuming that the majority of the Corrupted Gems were Rebels, could the ammount of the Homeworld ones be mostly composed of "Centipeetles"? It makes sense, as they are the most common type of Gem Monsters found in the series, and since they probably belonged to a worker caste, there could be lots and lots of them on Earth, which explains why they were used as cannon fodder in the war.

      BTW, this ressurects an old enigma: Who is the Obelisk Gem? Is she a corrupted Diamond? There is almost irrefutable evidence on that...but it's still a mistery.

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    • Killuminati212 wrote:
      This episode basically confirmed some of my old theories and added important facts.

      So, it's likely that after the decisive Crystal Gem victory at the now-called "Strawberry Battlefield", Homeworld's Earth Legion (the Kindergarten Gems) got completely wiped out, turning the tides of the war and leaving the loyalist faction defenseless. Soon, the situation would become chaotic, as Gems would be desperately rushing to the nearest Warp Pad with the Crystal Gem Army right behind them, pushing them back to Homeworld.

      The Galaxy Warp was probably so full of Gems that some had to use 1.000 years-old spaceships to escape. Centipeetle got lost in the confusion, along with Mirror Lapis, who got cracked.

      Time was running low, as the Diamonds were preparing their ultimate weapon against the incoming rebels; those who couldn't reach the Warp Pads/Ships were bound to be left behind. It was that or facing the risk of a possible invasion.

      Except for Rose and those next to her, all Crystal Gems got corrupted by the so-called "Damage of The Diamonds", while some Homeworld Gems suffered from the same fate.

      I was wondering... Assuming that the majority of the Corrupted Gems were Rebels, could the ammount of the Homeworld ones be mostly composed of "Centipeetles"? It makes sense, as they are the most common type of Gem Monsters found in the series, and since they probably belonged to a worker caste, there could be lots and lots of them on Earth, which explains why they were used as cannon fodder in the war.

      BTW, this ressurects an old enigma: Who is the Obelisk Gem? Is she a corrupted Diamond? There is almost irrefutable evidence on that...but it's still a mistery.

      Well, at the time, that was modern gem tech. All this takes place roughly 5,000 years in the past and it's in the present when pearl says the ships are "ancient". Basically, any gem objects on Earth in the show is ancient. From the ships and to the wailing stones.

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    • Zzfunk wrote:
      I just wish if Steven has to be so chill about this infromation, and not be furious at the Diamonds, I wish Garnet or Pearl would convayed the anger that us the viewers have.

      They experienced all this stuff first-hand 5,000 years ago. There is no point in becoming angry all of a sudden just because the centipeedle is telling them stuff. If anything, they fear them more than they hate them.

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    • Ronaldo Smith wrote:
      Zzfunk wrote:
      Steven must have learned his lesson about anger and hate from "Beach City Drift" because after learning all this, how could not be angry at the Diamonds for what they did. I mean come on, they deserve some Kevin like heat.
      Someone else pointed this out, I don't know who.

      Try to kill Steven - Steven: I'm sure you didn't mean to, let me heal your Gem.

      Threaten the Earth and all life - Steven: If they just got to know the Earth maybe they'll be nice.


      Poof Garnet and headbutt Steven - Steven: I'm sure it's all a misunderstanding. 

      Make Connie uncomfortable - Steven: I WILL HATE YOU FOREVER!!!!

      It wasn't just because of Connie. Steven was angry because he felt uncomfortable too, no because he was jealous. That's why he said we and us when explaining his anger to Greg. Not everything between Steven and Connie has to be part of their love story.

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    • LucasVerBeek wrote:

      SUoveranalyzer wrote:

      Peribab wrote: The episode "Monster Reunion" adds more evidence to the Rose=Pink Diamond theory.

      The whole Centipeedle backstory took place during the war/revolution. When Centi was drawing for Steven, she only drew three diamonds, with the bottom diamond, also known as Pink Diamond, missing.Well, during the revolution, Rose/ Pink Diamond became a rebel. So, the Gem Government took out her out of the insignia. Hence Centi draws three diamonds instead of four.

      Impossible everything that we have learned about gems so far leads to Rose being a Quartz. She simply does not look like a Diamond Nor is she the size of one, yet has all of the traits of a Quartz. Also all Diamonds have a ( <> ) shaped gem, Rose does not.Even Rose's personality and mannerism are not special as we see "Navy" the ruby with the same placement as her acts alot like her, being nice, soft spoken, passive and flamboyant.

      I really don't think that Rose was actually a Quartz...shapeshifting is a thing after all. Plus all of her abilites don't match what he know about Quartz gems at all.

      Refer to this:[[1]]

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    • Let's also keep in mind that she might not have ALWAYS been a quartz, one of Steven's powers is posession through his telepathy, when she was Pink Diamond she could've easily placed her self in the mind of a newly forming Rose Quartz Gem, and destroyed her old body causing her to live as Rose forever.

      OR-she was part of Pink Diamond's court, and she killed her. Either way Pinky is a factor.

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    • Yoshimickster wrote:
      Let's also keep in mind that she might not have ALWAYS been a quartz, one of Steven's powers is posession through his telepathy, when she was Pink Diamond she could've easily placed her self in the mind of a newly forming Rose Quartz Gem, and destroyed her old body causing her to live as Rose forever.

      OR-she was part of Pink Diamond's court, and she killed her. Either way Pinky is a factor.

      Eh, out of the two I prefer the second option

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    • This has been one of my favorites of the new episodes. Really wondering if the blast (song?) came from the moon base, and it was also interesting to see that Pink Diamond wasn't involved in the corruption. Could it be possible that Pink Diamond was shattered and experimented on (like used for the cluster or some other means)? Not saying this is my theory or anything. Just wondering what others might think. I like hearing all Pink Diamond theories, but I don't really stand by any of them as one I firmly believe in. I like to stay open minded until Rebecca formally introduces us to Pink Diamond. :)

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    • Yoshimickster wrote: Let's also keep in mind that she might not have ALWAYS been a quartz, one of Steven's powers is posession through his telepathy, when she was Pink Diamond she could've easily placed her self in the mind of a newly forming Rose Quartz Gem, and destroyed her old body causing her to live as Rose forever.

      OR-she was part of Pink Diamond's court, and she killed her. Either way Pinky is a factor.

      Rose being a highly privileged, gem creating and universe conquering diamond just makes no sense, especially if you look at "Greg the Babysitter" Where Rose says she is fascinated by how humans grow up and build themselves unlike Gems who burst out of the ground knowing what they are supposed to be forever. That kind of viewpoint must come from a manufactured gem and not the diamonds that order it.

      No, According to Peridot in "hit the Diamond" Yellow Diamond is boss over all soldier type gems and of course Technical gems like her. "Yes, but not everyone has control over all the armies of homeworld waiting for The word shatter me!"-Peridot a tech gem also under her. Military and technology go hand in hand.

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    • SUoveranalyzer wrote:

      Rose being a highly privileged, gem creating and universe conquering diamond just makes no sense, especially if you look at "Greg the Babysitter" Where Rose says she is fascinated by how humans grow up and build themselves unlike Gems who burst out of the ground knowing what they are supposed to be forever. That kind of viewpoint must come from a manufactured gem and not the diamonds that order it.

      Are we sure? Maybe the diamonds were made in the same way, PROGRAMMED to be the leaders of Gem society. BUT-it gets deeper. The Diamonds are supposed to have no weaknesses, practically godesses, truly immortal...but not so. WHAT IF-diamonds through-out history were shattered or corrupted like any normal Gem would, and they'd secretly replace them with NEW diamonds to keep up their illusion of power? And the Pink Diamond that would become a Rose Quartz was the latest in that assembly line. She never once identified with her role as being better than the Gems supposedly below her, and with that, semi-staged her death(as in my theory she destroyed her old body) and became the leader of the rebellion as Rose Quartz. She chose to be a soldier caste, because if she started the rebellion as Pink Diamond it'd just look like a ruler wanting more power.

      That's my theory anyway, please feel free to continue to argue with me in a polite manner. I know that goes without saying, but still.

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    • Yoshimickster wrote:

      SUoveranalyzer wrote:

      Rose being a highly privileged, gem creating and universe conquering diamond just makes no sense, especially if you look at "Greg the Babysitter" Where Rose says she is fascinated by how humans grow up and build themselves unlike Gems who burst out of the ground knowing what they are supposed to be forever. That kind of viewpoint must come from a manufactured gem and not the diamonds that order it.

      Are we sure? Maybe the diamonds were made in the same way, PROGRAMMED to be the leaders of Gem society. BUT-it gets deeper. The Diamonds are supposed to have no weaknesses, practically godesses, truly immortal...but not so. WHAT IF-diamonds through-out history were shattered or corrupted like any normal Gem would, and they'd secretly replace them with NEW diamonds to keep up their illusion of power? And the Pink Diamond that would become a Rose Quartz was the latest in that assembly line. She never once identified with her role as being better than the Gems supposedly below her, and with that, semi-staged her death(as in my theory she destroyed her old body) and became the leader of the rebellion as Rose Quartz. She chose to be a soldier caste, because if she started the rebellion as Pink Diamond it'd just look like a ruler wanting more power.

      That's my theory anyway, please feel free to continue to argue with me in a polite manner. I know that goes without saying, but still.


      That's terribly unlikely, better yet impossible, If they could replace a diamond it would have already been done. A gem can't just BECOME another like that(unless fusion) So she became a ghost and possessed a Rose Quartz what? Face it this theory is dead and makes no sense. She is just a Quartz with a navel gem personality who was a nature lover and did not discriminate and amassed an army that agreed, people are like, "How did Rose get an army is just a Quartz?" That's like asking how the us got an army against the British, they convinced enough people of their cause.How did the crystal gems build? Convincing builders.

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    • SUoveranalyzer wrote:

      Yoshimickster wrote: Are we sure? Maybe the diamonds were made in the same way, PROGRAMMED to be the leaders of Gem society. BUT-it gets deeper. The Diamonds are supposed to have no weaknesses, practically godesses, truly immortal...but not so. WHAT IF-diamonds through-out history were shattered or corrupted like any normal Gem would, and they'd secretly replace them with NEW diamonds to keep up their illusion of power? And the Pink Diamond that would become a Rose Quartz was the latest in that assembly line. She never once identified with her role as being better than the Gems supposedly below her, and with that, semi-staged her death(as in my theory she destroyed her old body) and became the leader of the rebellion as Rose Quartz. She chose to be a soldier caste, because if she started the rebellion as Pink Diamond it'd just look like a ruler wanting more power.

      That's my theory anyway, please feel free to continue to argue with me in a polite manner. I know that goes without saying, but still.


      That's terribly unlikely, better yet impossible, If they could replace a diamond it would have already been done. A gem can't just BECOME another like that(unless fusion) So she became a ghost and possessed a Rose Quartz what? Face it this theory is dead and makes no sense. She is just a Quartz with a navel gem personality who was a nature lover and did not discriminate and amassed an army that agreed, people are like, "How did Rose get an army is just a Quartz?" That's like asking how the us got an army against the British, they convinced enough people of their cause.How did the crystal gems build? Convincing builders.

      She didn't become a ghost, she hypothetically used her dream-walking abilities to possess a Quartz type body, then destroyed her Diamond body to live out the rest of her days as Rose Quartz.

      Also I didn't question HOW Rose got an army, just stated that it'd be more symbolically hopeful if a soldier caste quartz, a working joe to lead the Rebellion. Hypothetically she did it because if she chose to start the rebellion as a diamond...actually I explained that all ready, I'm not typing it again.

      Plus Rose is FAR from just simple, she is fifteen KINDS of mysterious. For all WE know Gems couldn't change there form, but maybe Rose found a way and kept it secretly, possibly dream walking! 

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      Yoshimickster wrote:

      SUoveranalyzer wrote:

      Yoshimickster wrote: Are we sure? Maybe the diamonds were made in the same way, PROGRAMMED to be the leaders of Gem society. BUT-it gets deeper. The Diamonds are supposed to have no weaknesses, practically godesses, truly immortal...but not so. WHAT IF-diamonds through-out history were shattered or corrupted like any normal Gem would, and they'd secretly replace them with NEW diamonds to keep up their illusion of power? And the Pink Diamond that would become a Rose Quartz was the latest in that assembly line. She never once identified with her role as being better than the Gems supposedly below her, and with that, semi-staged her death(as in my theory she destroyed her old body) and became the leader of the rebellion as Rose Quartz. She chose to be a soldier caste, because if she started the rebellion as Pink Diamond it'd just look like a ruler wanting more power.

      That's my theory anyway, please feel free to continue to argue with me in a polite manner. I know that goes without saying, but still.


      That's terribly unlikely, better yet impossible, If they could replace a diamond it would have already been done. A gem can't just BECOME another like that(unless fusion) So she became a ghost and possessed a Rose Quartz what? Face it this theory is dead and makes no sense. She is just a Quartz with a navel gem personality who was a nature lover and did not discriminate and amassed an army that agreed, people are like, "How did Rose get an army is just a Quartz?" That's like asking how the us got an army against the British, they convinced enough people of their cause.How did the crystal gems build? Convincing builders.

      She didn't become a ghost, she hypothetically used her dream-walking abilities to possess a Quartz type body, then destroyed her Diamond body to live out the rest of her days as Rose Quartz.

      Also I didn't question HOW Rose got an army, just stated that it'd be more symbolically hopeful if a soldier caste quartz, a working joe to lead the Rebellion. Hypothetically she did it because if she chose to start the rebellion as a diamond...actually I explained that all ready, I'm not typing it again.

      Plus Rose is FAR from just simple, she is fifteen KINDS of mysterious. For all WE know Gems couldn't change there form, but maybe Rose found a way and kept it secretly, possibly dream walking! 

      We don't even know if Rose even used that power, considering as a gem she would not sleep, also, I don't think destroying her original body would leave her possessing someone else forever, especially since in New Lars, disturbing the body would lead to a switch back. Look, Ian JQ already said Rose is a Quartz, so just be wrong man... Also Matt Burnett finds the destruction of Diamond to be ridiculous, at least poofing wise. Here is Ian's tweet.[[1]] Matt's [[2]]

      Plus she is naturally "Quartz like" When Greg got stuck on the ferris wheel Rose didnt know what to do and just went straight to violence. "Leave Greg ALONE!" *Obliterates control panel* This happened in Greg the Babysitter.

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      We don't even know if Rose even used that power, considering as a gem she would not sleep, also, I don't think destroying her original body would leave her possessing someone else forever, especially since in New Lars, disturbing the body would lead to a switch back. Look, Ian JQ already said Rose is a Quartz, so just be wrong man... Also Matt Burnett finds the destruction of Diamond to be ridiculous, at least poofing wise. Here is Ian's tweet.[[1]] Matt's [[2]]

      Plus she is naturally "Quartz like" When Greg got stuck on the ferris wheel Rose didnt know what to do and just went straight to violence. "Leave Greg ALONE!" *Obliterates control panel* This happened in Greg the Babysitter.

      Dude if your second tweet was from Ian it'd help but...Matt? THE PATRON SAINT OF MESSING WITH THE FANDOM?! Plus it sounded like something Peridot would type.

      BACK TO IAN'S TWEET-what did he say EXACTLY?! "Yo, her name is Rose-QUARTZ!" with NO follow-up. Can you seriously not see a reality where he was being vague, where later IF she's revealed to be or was Pink Diamond, that he said "I never said she was never Pink Diamond, I said her name was Rose Quartz"? Ian is usually straight-laced sure, but maybe he is being sneaky this time. You can't deny its a possibility...well you can, I can't control you. But at least understand how I got this theory.

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    • A lot of what both sides are saying seem like a possibility. I think creating a Diamond could be possible. I mean, did they just magically exist for all time or just poof into existence? I'm not saying this happens in SU, but it could be possible. Diamonds are deep in planet earth, created by the pressure. It could very well be that the Diamonds were trying to create another Diamond (maybe one is even made each time they stumble across an earth like planet, one that makes diamonds). I know they go to planets looking for recources, but it's not like making another Diamond is an impossible idea. Maybe they failed which is why the cluster ended up the way it did, or maybe the cluseter was their plan with earth from the get go. Maybe Pink Diamond knew the plan for sacrificng their own for a weapon, tried to stop it, and was destroyed, leaving Rose to lead her rebellion. Maybe Pink Diamond is Rose Quartz. Who really can say? There's so many ideas that honestly, no one can really rule out a lot of these ideas until we get revealed the truth. My mind has raced through so many different theories, but I like thinking of every possibility for fun. If I think of one theory, I like to think of a theory that opposes it and really explore all options. I don't stand by a single theory because there's so many that have good solid points. We, as fans, should come together and enjoy everyone's ideas until we really have the solid evidence that says the idea is an impossibility, not debating which unproven points are correct or incorrect. Steven would want to see everyone getting along. *Holds up together breakfast*

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    • @ToastyEmoNinja

      YOU-are my favorite person right now, and thank you.

      I'd ALSO be good if Rose was like, Pink's apprentice. Either way there is a connection.

      And if she IS Pink Diamond...I have a dark idea in that regard.

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    • Yoshimickster wrote:

      SUoveranalyzer wrote:
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      We don't even know if Rose even used that power, considering as a gem she would not sleep, also, I don't think destroying her original body would leave her possessing someone else forever, especially since in New Lars, disturbing the body would lead to a switch back. Look, Ian JQ already said Rose is a Quartz, so just be wrong man... Also Matt Burnett finds the destruction of Diamond to be ridiculous, at least poofing wise. Here is Ian's tweet.[[1]] Matt's [[2]]

      Plus she is naturally "Quartz like" When Greg got stuck on the ferris wheel Rose didnt know what to do and just went straight to violence. "Leave Greg ALONE!" *Obliterates control panel* This happened in Greg the Babysitter.

      Dude if your second tweet was from Ian it'd help but...Matt? THE PATRON SAINT OF MESSING WITH THE FANDOM?! Plus it sounded like something Peridot would type.

      BACK TO IAN'S TWEET-what did he say EXACTLY?! "Yo, her name is Rose-QUARTZ!" with NO follow-up. Can you seriously not see a reality where he was being vague, where later IF she's revealed to be or was Pink Diamond, that he said "I never said she was never Pink Diamond, I said her name was Rose Quartz"? Ian is usually straight-laced sure, but maybe he is being sneaky this time. You can't deny its a possibility...well you can, I can't control you. But at least understand how I got this theory.

      You clearly didn't read it. He said "quartz soldiers are intended for armies, meaning some of them need defensive powers as well. they can't all be tanks" to which someone asked, just to be clear "So she's definitely a quartz then?" To which he made it clear of the painfully obvious fact that it's IN THE NAME. No, I cannot, especially now that we've learned so much about gem hierarchy and gem class body type, Diamonds are giants, skinny giants, Quartzes are muscular, tall and durable and powerful. Rose isn't a hundred feet tall or skinny, so she's clearly not diamond. Not only that but the gem, the physical part of them that cannot change without death, on a diamond is ( <> ) rhombus shaped, Rose's gem? Just like Amethyst's in pentagon facet. This theory and it's jr companion that died first the Lapis blue Diamond theory is ridiculous, by their logic, Amethyst is purple diamond, Jasper is orange diamond, Peridot is green diamond, everyone is diamond. By the way, we saw some pink diamond in "couldve been great" and look, skinny legs, thin fingers, giant height, not Rose.

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    • ToastyEmoNinja wrote: A lot of what both sides are saying seem like a possibility. I think creating a Diamnd could be possible. I mean, did they just magically exist for all time or just poof into existence? I'm not saying this happens in SU, but it could be possible. Diamonds are deep in planet earth, created by the pressure. It could very well be that the Diamonds were trying to create another Diamond (maybe one is even made each time they stumble across an earth like planet, one that makes diamonds). I know they go to planets looking for recources, but it's not like making another Diamond is an impossible idea. Maybe they failed which is why the cluster ended up the way it did, or maybe the cluseter was their plan with earth from the get go. Maybe Pink Diamond knew the plan for sacrificng their own for a weapon, tried to stop it, and was destroyed, leaving Rose to lead her rebellion. Maybe Pink Diamond is Rose Quartz. Who really can say? There's so many ideas that honestly, no one can really rule out a lot of these ideas until we get revealed the truth. My mind has raced through so many different theories, but I like thinking of every possibility for fun. If I think of one theory, I like to think of a theory that opposes it and really explore all options. I don't stand by a single theory because there's so many that have good solid points. We, as fans, should come together and enjoy everyone's ideas until we really have the solid evidence that says the idea is an impossibility, not debating which unproven points are correct or incorrect. Steven would want to see everyone getting along. *Holds up together breakfast*

      Which is why the excuse that being Pink diamond would give Steven the power to shatter the other diamonds is dumb, he wouldn't.

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    • Yoshimickster wrote: @ToastyEmoNinja

      YOU-are my favorite person right now, and thank you.

      I'd ALSO be good if Rose was like, Pink's apprentice. Either way there is a connection.

      And if she IS Pink Diamond...I have a dark idea in that regard.

      Connection? Why? Because she's Pink?! That is the dumb part of the theory Newsflash: Pink gemstones besides Pink Diamond exist. Besides, In "Hit the Diamond" Peridot stated Yellow diamond commands all armies, all military gems so Rose would be under her.

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    • SUoveranalyzer wrote:

      Connection? Why? Because she's Pink?! That is the dumb part of the theory Newsflash: Pink gemstones besides Pink Diamond exist. Besides, In "Hit the Diamond" Peridot stated Yellow diamond commands all armies, all military gems so Rose would be under her.

      Its because Rose's symbol has a pink "triangle" on it? You know, like the diamond symbol? Its not a perfect theory but I use it.

      ALSO-I did read all of Ian's posts, and I just like to point out that there's a chance it was vague as it ended with "Yo, her name is Rose QUARTZ". And it ends right there. He didn't add a "So no".

      DOUBLE ALSO-her dreamwalking ability adds to it EVEN if her body was actually a quartz. We have no reason to deny that Rose didn't have that power at this moment.

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    • SUoveranalyzer wrote:

      ToastyEmoNinja wrote: A lot of what both sides are saying seem like a possibility. I think creating a Diamnd could be possible. I mean, did they just magically exist for all time or just poof into existence? I'm not saying this happens in SU, but it could be possible. Diamonds are deep in planet earth, created by the pressure. It could very well be that the Diamonds were trying to create another Diamond (maybe one is even made each time they stumble across an earth like planet, one that makes diamonds). I know they go to planets looking for recources, but it's not like making another Diamond is an impossible idea. Maybe they failed which is why the cluster ended up the way it did, or maybe the cluseter was their plan with earth from the get go. Maybe Pink Diamond knew the plan for sacrificng their own for a weapon, tried to stop it, and was destroyed, leaving Rose to lead her rebellion. Maybe Pink Diamond is Rose Quartz. Who really can say? There's so many ideas that honestly, no one can really rule out a lot of these ideas until we get revealed the truth. My mind has raced through so many different theories, but I like thinking of every possibility for fun. If I think of one theory, I like to think of a theory that opposes it and really explore all options. I don't stand by a single theory because there's so many that have good solid points. We, as fans, should come together and enjoy everyone's ideas until we really have the solid evidence that says the idea is an impossibility, not debating which unproven points are correct or incorrect. Steven would want to see everyone getting along. *Holds up together breakfast*

      Which is why the excuse that being Pink diamond would give Steven the power to shatter the other diamonds is dumb, he wouldn't.

      I do agree with that. Steven is too much of a sweety to shatter anybody, and he's always reaching out to the bad guys. He'd more than likely even try to redeem Yellow Diamond despite all she did. Also, I think there's nothing wrong with thinking that Pink Diamond could have a quartz as a personal guard. After all, when we saw Blue Diamond, we saw all sorts of gem shapes and sizes in her crowd. Even if Yellow Diamond directly controls the military force, it doesn't mean that all the tough gems are constantly at her beck and command. It's very likely that the Diamonds were surrounded by all types of gems, especially if they split up to mutliple planets or sections of a planet. Now, they of course were surrounded mostly by the gems they led. If each gem type is under a specific Diamond, then is easy to imagine that Pearls may have been under one specific Diamond (like White, Blue, or Pink), but you can still find them under each Diamond. A personal guard isn't hard to imagine at all. Now, does this mean that Rose had something to do with Pink Diamond? Well, I can't say since I'm not the writer of the show. I really don't know at all. I think it would be interesting though, and it's definately not ruled out. COLON THREE    INTERNET FACE (Peridot twitter reference)

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    • Yoshimickster wrote:

      SUoveranalyzer wrote:

      Connection? Why? Because she's Pink?! That is the dumb part of the theory Newsflash: Pink gemstones besides Pink Diamond exist. Besides, In "Hit the Diamond" Peridot stated Yellow diamond commands all armies, all military gems so Rose would be under her.

      Its because Rose's symbol has a pink "triangle" on it? You know, like the diamond symbol? Its not a perfect theory but I use it.

      ALSO-I did read all of Ian's posts, and I just like to point out that there's a chance it was vague as it ended with "Yo, her name is Rose QUARTZ". And it ends right there. He didn't add a "So no".

      DOUBLE ALSO-her dreamwalking ability adds to it EVEN if her body was actually a quartz. We have no reason to deny that Rose didn't have that power at this moment.

      IIs not a triangle it is a Rose... as you can tell by the thorny vine spiraling out from it, the rose's in mr Greg have the same design! Also the original symbol was diamonds. Her dream ability is disrupted by any damage to her body, also Recent episodes killed this theory anyways.

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    • ToastyEmoNinja wrote:

      SUoveranalyzer wrote:

      ToastyEmoNinja wrote: A lot of what both sides are saying seem like a possibility. I think creating a Diamnd could be possible. I mean, did they just magically exist for all time or just poof into existence? I'm not saying this happens in SU, but it could be possible. Diamonds are deep in planet earth, created by the pressure. It could very well be that the Diamonds were trying to create another Diamond (maybe one is even made each time they stumble across an earth like planet, one that makes diamonds). I know they go to planets looking for recources, but it's not like making another Diamond is an impossible idea. Maybe they failed which is why the cluster ended up the way it did, or maybe the cluseter was their plan with earth from the get go. Maybe Pink Diamond knew the plan for sacrificng their own for a weapon, tried to stop it, and was destroyed, leaving Rose to lead her rebellion. Maybe Pink Diamond is Rose Quartz. Who really can say? There's so many ideas that honestly, no one can really rule out a lot of these ideas until we get revealed the truth. My mind has raced through so many different theories, but I like thinking of every possibility for fun. If I think of one theory, I like to think of a theory that opposes it and really explore all options. I don't stand by a single theory because there's so many that have good solid points. We, as fans, should come together and enjoy everyone's ideas until we really have the solid evidence that says the idea is an impossibility, not debating which unproven points are correct or incorrect. Steven would want to see everyone getting along. *Holds up together breakfast*

      Which is why the excuse that being Pink diamond would give Steven the power to shatter the other diamonds is dumb, he wouldn't.

      I do agree with that. Steven is too much of a sweety to shatter anybody, and he's always reaching out to the bad guys. He'd more than likely even try to redeem Yellow Diamond despite all she did. Also, I think there's nothing wrong with thinking that Pink Diamond could have a quartz as a personal guard. After all, when we saw Blue Diamond, we saw all sorts of gem shapes and sizes in her crowd. Even if Yellow Diamond directly controls the military force, it doesn't mean that all the tough gems are constantly at her beck and command. It's very likely that the Diamonds were surrounded by all types of gems, especially if they split up to mutliple planets or sections of a planet. Now, they of course were surrounded mostly by the gems they led. If each gem type is under a specific Diamond, then is easy to imagine that Pearls may have been under one specific Diamond (like White, Blue, or Pink), but you can still find them under each Diamond. A personal guard isn't hard to imagine at all. Now, does this mean that Rose had something to do with Pink Diamond? Well, I can't say since I'm not the writer of the show. I really don't know at all. I think it would be interesting though, and it's definately not ruled out. COLON THREE    INTERNET FACE (Peridot twitter reference)

      "Back to the moon" that is all.

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    • SUoveranalyzer wrote:

      IIs not a triangle it is a Rose... as you can tell by the thorny vine spiraling out from it, the rose's in mr Greg have the same design! Also the original symbol was diamonds. Her dream ability is disrupted by any damage to her body, also Recent episodes killed this theory anyways.

      I'd say more wounded than killed, given that they haven't shown HOW she shattered her.

      ALSO-and I feel silly for not bringing this up, her shield was able to block an attack that corrupted EVERY living Gem on Earth. Every. Single. GEM! And she's...a quartz soldier? That's a little too much shield power to give, even for a super soldier.

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    • Yoshimickster wrote:

      SUoveranalyzer wrote:

      IIs not a triangle it is a Rose... as you can tell by the thorny vine spiraling out from it, the rose's in mr Greg have the same design! Also the original symbol was diamonds. Her dream ability is disrupted by any damage to her body, also Recent episodes killed this theory anyways.

      I'd say more wounded than killed, given that they haven't shown HOW she shattered her.

      ALSO-and I feel silly for not bringing this up, her shield was able to block an attack that corrupted EVERY living Gem on Earth. Every. Single. GEM! And she's...a quartz soldier? That's a little too much shield power to give, even for a super soldier.

      Well, she is a super soldier, Quartzes are pretty strong when well made, just look at Jasper! She's Indestructible, nothing except a sharp metal rod could destroy her.

      Well,what's there to explain? She hit her square in the gem really, really,hardly.

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    • Every.Gem.On.EARTH! And she pawned herself off as "Just another Quartz out of the ground" no flipping way, there's something going on there. 

      And anyone can explain, I want to SEE. Plus, she's a DIAMOND, the highest echelon of the Gem castes, and she fell to a soldier?

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    • Yoshimickster wrote:                                                                                                         She's a DIAMOND, the highest echelon of the Gem castes, and she fell to a soldier?

      Yes, is it hard to understand?

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    • AquaticPanic wrote:
      Yoshimickster wrote:                                                                                                         She's a DIAMOND, the highest echelon of the Gem castes, and she fell to a soldier?
      Yes, is it hard to understand?

      Yes, considering that diamonds are supposed to be the most powerful. I have trouble right now believing Rose did the deed enough, primarily because whenever they talk about it well...that's just it, they JUST talk about it, they never flashback to the event in question. 

      I'm personally on the "Pink Diamond possessed Rose" train of though, where she used her dream-walking powers to merge her soul-self with Rose Quartz, poof and seemingly shatter her original Diamond body, and lead the rebellion.

      Either way I personally think Rose Quartz actions were pre-planned since the beginning, take Steven's birth for example, how she said "We can't both exist" and how Garnet said "There's never been anyone like Steven before". How.Did.Rose. KNOW?! I'll tell you how, because the plan was programmed into her sub-stinking-conscious by Pink Diamond...possibly.

      Either way there's more to this than a quartz shattering a diamond.

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    • Dinoboygreen wrote:
      Yoshimickster wrote:
      AquaticPanic wrote:
      Yoshimickster wrote:                                                                                                         She's a DIAMOND, the highest echelon of the Gem castes, and she fell to a soldier?
      Yes, is it hard to understand?
      Yes, considering that diamonds are supposed to be the most powerful. I have trouble right now believing Rose did the deed enough, primarily because whenever they talk about it well...that's just it, they JUST talk about it, they never flashback to the event in question. 

      I'm personally on the "Pink Diamond possessed Rose" train of though, where she used her dream-walking powers to merge her soul-self with Rose Quartz, poof and seemingly shatter her original Diamond body, and lead the rebellion.

      Either way I personally think Rose Quartz actions were pre-planned since the beginning, take Steven's birth for example, how she said "We can't both exist" and how Garnet said "There's never been anyone like Steven before". How.Did.Rose. KNOW?! I'll tell you how, because the plan was programmed into her sub-stinking-conscious by Pink Diamond...possibly.

      Either way there's more to this than a quartz shattering a diamond.


      Hey, stranger things have happened in this show. Like a boy reincarnated from his mother out of a sense of progression for instance.

      Not saying your wrong, just saying what they say isn't impossible. Just unlikely.

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    • Oh my lord, thank you for that polite response! Seriously, that was incredibly respectful!

      And true, but while people tell me this show is straight forward, I think there's SOMETHING more. 

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    • Yoshimickster wrote:
      Oh my lord, thank you for that polite response! Seriously, that was incredibly respectful!

      And true, but while people tell me this show is straight forward, I think there's SOMETHING more. 


      Your welcome. While I'll admit I MAY take one or two things too far, I do try to be civilized about this. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm trying to find a good voice for Theta in a game I'm conceptualizing.

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    • Dinoboygreen wrote:
      Yoshimickster wrote:
      Oh my lord, thank you for that polite response! Seriously, that was incredibly respectful!

      And true, but while people tell me this show is straight forward, I think there's SOMETHING more. 


      Your welcome. While I'll admit I MAY take one or two things too far, I do try to be civilized about this. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm trying to find a good voice for Theta in a game I'm conceptualizing.

      ....what's Theta supposed to sound like? I ask because I'm sort-of an actor.

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    • Yoshimickster wrote:

      AquaticPanic wrote:
      Yoshimickster wrote:                                                                                                         She's a DIAMOND, the highest echelon of the Gem castes, and she fell to a soldier?
      Yes, is it hard to understand?

      Yes, considering that diamonds are supposed to be the most powerful. I have trouble right now believing Rose did the deed enough, primarily because whenever they talk about it well...that's just it, they JUST talk about it, they never flashback to the event in question. 

      I'm personally on the "Pink Diamond possessed Rose" train of though, where she used her dream-walking powers to merge her soul-self with Rose Quartz, poof and seemingly shatter her original Diamond body, and lead the rebellion.

      Either way I personally think Rose Quartz actions were pre-planned since the beginning, take Steven's birth for example, how she said "We can't both exist" and how Garnet said "There's never been anyone like Steven before". How.Did.Rose. KNOW?! I'll tell you how, because the plan was programmed into her sub-stinking-conscious by Pink Diamond...possibly.

      Either way there's more to this than a quartz shattering a diamond.

      Well, there is theory by a youtube user known as AJuniverse who states that, thanks to a post by Matt, that Diamonds are too POWERFUL too be damaged in the body, but, will shatter if hit in the gem. Which fits into how in real life a Diamond cannot be scratched but will shatter if you aren't careful enough with it. [[1]] Here is that post, oh and that is matt's account he just left his nephew David on it.

      The dream theory has no ground, in the very same episode of reveal "The new Lars". Steven possessed Lars slapped his original body around and switched back suggesing damage to the original reverses the ability. Also Gems have no concept of sleep.

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    • Yoshimickster wrote:
      Dinoboygreen wrote:
      Yoshimickster wrote:
      Oh my lord, thank you for that polite response! Seriously, that was incredibly respectful!

      And true, but while people tell me this show is straight forward, I think there's SOMETHING more. 


      Your welcome. While I'll admit I MAY take one or two things too far, I do try to be civilized about this. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm trying to find a good voice for Theta in a game I'm conceptualizing.
      ....what's Theta supposed to sound like? I ask because I'm sort-of an actor.


      Glad you asked. See, Theta is one of 24 Automatons in a game I'm conceptualizing called Kudos!. It WAS Darius and the 24 Automatons, but that seemed like too big a mouthful, know what I'm sayin'?

      As of now, I've layed down Alpha to Iota; and Theta is..well, here's her link: http://dinoboygreen.deviantart.com/art/Automaton-Theta-627577941

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