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    • ROSE ISN'T PINK DIAMOND CONFIRMED!

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    • jasper's ded

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    • Jasper seemed distraught when she said no one wanted to stay fused with her. She also seemed upset about whatever happened with Pink Diamond and that is why she has that grudge with Rose Quartz. That kind of supports my theory on what she is really looking for (only she doesn't fully understand it yet) is a relationship.

      I also liked Peridot's speech on why she is protecting Earth now, and how Steven tried to reach out to Jasper, who it looks like will be out of the picture for a while.

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    • So...

      Smoky Quartz was nice.

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    • ok, so I got spoiled for Smoky Quartz and jasper's corruption, but I was really surprised she fused with the gem monster and the pink diamond thing ..... omg that was so intense ....

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    • Jasper got HIV from fusing with a corrupted gem like how most STDs stem from human proximity with animals. 

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    • Smoky Quartz and their/his/her Yo-Yo.

      Steven and Amethyst are always the characters who are constantly growing emotionally. A very special gap was closed when they embraced they were both different and that it sucked but that they had each other.

      And did I hear wrong or did I hear Steven say they were both forced gems? If so, my heart just broke.

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    • I didn't like the Rose being pink diamond thing from the first time I heard it, so I'm actually happy it turned out to be false...

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    • Well I'm glad Jasper didn't poof Peri, Steven and Amethyst's sibling relationship is just so cute

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Well I'm glad Jasper didn't poof Peri, Steven and Amethyst's sibling relationship is just so cute

      Wait a minute...

      We could've got the star outfit!!!

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    • MiniDaggers wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Well I'm glad Jasper didn't poof Peri, Steven and Amethyst's sibling relationship is just so cute
      Wait a minute...

      We could've got the star outfit!!!

      But then who would look adorable while poofing Jasper oh and yay Amethyst just bubbled a gem for the first time in the series

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    • MiniDaggers wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Well I'm glad Jasper didn't poof Peri, Steven and Amethyst's sibling relationship is just so cute
      Wait a minute...

      We could've got the star outfit!!!

      She screamed she was a Crystal Gem! though. That is pretty good.

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    • Let me know if you agree but, I do understand what jasper meant with the whole being mad at Rose for what she did to the earth because, if you think about it Jasper was created on the Earth which was supposed to be a colony, it can be assumed that Gems live on whatever planet they are created on long term and don't all go off to homeworld, however since Earth was not able to be made into a colony as it was supposed to, the Gems created there weren't able to stay:

      Peridot said in the Gem Drill episode that though she doesn't remember coming out of her own gem hole on Homeworld, she does know she at times misses it and right off the bat had feelings for the place of her technical birth, the same could be said for Jasper and the others created on Earth. Plus she lost her Diamond, possibly before she was even able to immerse from her own hole so even then Jasper would never tweet to know the one she was supposed to be serving, to be dedicated to.

      Do I make sense?

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    • STEVEN FUSED WITH A GEM (Amethyst)!!! AAAHHHHHHH!!! *O*

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    • I loved Smokey's look, shes got a Sugilite double arm showing  Amethst and Steven arent complete matches personaility wise but apart from that she has nothing extra... So by apperance Smokey Quartz has less extra parts than Opal...

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    • I really felt sorry for Jasper, nobody loves her, her colony was destroyed, her Diamond was destroyed, she got corrupted... maybe there is still hope for her... maybe a litte, she has information.

      Ok Smokey Quartz was a little bit of a let down, the Yoyo was pretty cool, but her/him/it's design really looked rough, didn't look as good as the others. Even Malachite had a nicer design.

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    • This ep was amazing.

      First Jasper Vs. Amethyst rematch

      Then Feels

      Then new fusion

      Then another new fusion

      Then Jasper gets corrupted

      Then MAI DIAMOND, YOUR DIAMOND, PINK DIAMOND!

      Then Peridot's first poof

      Then Amethyst's first bubbling on screen

      Then rubies are back

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    • AquaticPanic wrote:
      This ep was amazing.

      First Jasper Vs. Amethyst rematch

      Then Feels

      Then new fusion

      Then another new fusion

      Then Jasper gets corrupted

      Then MAI DIAMOND, YOUR DIAMOND, PINK DIAMOND!

      Then Peridot's first poof

      Then Amethyst's first bubbling on screen

      Then rubies are back

      IKR?!?!?! *O*

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    • CrystalBren wrote:
      Smoky Quartz and their/his/her Yo-Yo.

      Steven and Amethyst are always the characters who are constantly growing emotionally. A very special gap was closed when they embraced they were both different and that it sucked but that they had each other.

      And did I hear wrong or did I hear Steven say they were both forced gems? If so, my heart just broke.

      I heard "worst" Gems, referring to how they were each saying they were the worst CG in Steven vs. Amethyst.

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    • Don't worry everyone, this is a normal if not rare and drastic part of the redemption process, Jasper will be back someday

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    • I gotta say, that was pretty intense. It's finally been established that Steven can fuse with full Gems (I can't wait to see Rainbow Quartz 2.0). I feel sorry for Jasper though.

      It looks like the Rubies are back for more.

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    • Ridshadowfox wrote:
      I really felt sorry for Jasper, nobody loves her, her colony was destroyed, her Diamond was destroyed, she got corrupted... maybe there is still hope for her... maybe a litte, she has information.

      Ok Smokey Quartz was a little bit of a let down, the Yoyo was pretty cool, but her/him/it's design really looked rough, didn't look as good as the others. Even Malachite had a nicer design.

      Jasper didn't say Pink Diamond was destroyed, she just said that Rose did something to her. What was that something ? The possibilities are almost endless.

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Don't worry everyone, this is a normal if not rare and drastic part of the redemption process, Jasper will be back someday

      tbh I think this is it for jasper. She's not willing to see anything good in Earth so it's about a 1% chance she'll get redeemed

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    • Wait, what about knowing another thing about Jasper?! Peridot said Jasper was made on Earth! I thought she was made from Homeworld. She was made at another Kindergarten?! Called the Beta Kindergarten! o-=)

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    • Also its a good thing Garnet wasn't there when Jasper forced Fusion upon the Corrupted Gem... I dont think Jasper would like to see Garnet when Fusion is disgraced right in front of her...

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    • Wow just wow, I don't know what to say. First of Smoky Quartz, I just love her already and Steven fused with a gem, I knew he could do it.

      So Jasper knows Peridot is a traitor, and her reaction is similar to the Rubies, she just didn't cares, Peridot you might the right choice, no one on Homeworld cares you betrayed. Still Peridot she tries, I was worried Jasper was going to take her hostage.

      And Jasper gets so desperate, she fuses with a corrupted gem, not a good idea, Smoky Quartz came together with a hug, no fusion dance, so I say it is okay that Jasper and the corrupted gem can fuse without a fusion dance.

      And Steven despite everything Jasper has done, is still compassionate enough to try to save her, I think that experience with Bizmuth did him some good to remember his compassionate side, the side he lost around "Beach City Drift", the Steven in "Beach City Drift" wouldn't have shown any compassion.

      The big reveal Jasper served under Pink Diamond, I am to assume Jasper and Rose served under her together? That would explain why she has a personal vendetta against Rose. And changes everything I thought about Jasper relationship with Yellow Diamond. I don't think Jasper felt the same worship for Yellow Diamond that Peridot, the Diamonds are the matriarchs, I guess to Jasper, Yellow Diamond is a step mother.

      I have to wonder if Jasper being the perfect Quartz is what saved from being shattered, I can imagine are just the type of people that would shatter every gem that served under Pink Diamond that wasn't perfect. From now on, all future AU fics Jasper relationship to Yellow Diamond should be a step mother.

      And I don't care what anyone says, I felt some sympathy when she said "no one wants to stay with me", it is her fault, but still it is kind of the same sympathy you could have for Azula for her breakdown for her friends going against her, it all deserved but still the feels. And the end when Amethyst called her "sis", that was touching. I guess the old shonnen cliche they bonded through fighting.

      The Rubies are here, and I wonder what is next, they haven't put Jasper back in the temple. maybe there will be a debate between Steven, Amethyst and everyone else over weather or not to just hand over Jasper to the Rubies.

      This a great set of episodes. Can't wait for tomorrow.

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    • I guess in a way Jasper is a tragic character. She was so deeply indoctrinated in Homeworld ideology, her pursuit of power, and (what I'm guessing based on her fusion experiences and attempts) an internalized sense of loneliness that she couldn't see the good that Earth had to offer, not even when Steven offered to help her, and ended up getting corrupted.

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    • Hey, can this discussion can also let us talk about the episode; "Beta"?

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    • Sammyrashid15 wrote:
      Hey, can this discussion can also let us talk about the episode; "Beta"?

      It has its own thread.

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    • it's kinda weird to see Jasper getting really mad and got to corrupt for Pink Diamond, a character almost everyone associated to a good character, it was really weird.

      Only now I realize how mush Jasper is really a deep character ...

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    • AveryKmae wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Don't worry everyone, this is a normal if not rare and drastic part of the redemption process, Jasper will be back someday
      tbh I think this is it for jasper. She's not willing to see anything good in Earth so it's about a 1% chance she'll get redeemed

      I think we'll see more of Jasper, and I honestly think she has a chance at redemption. 

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    • HarringtonLittle wrote:
      Also its a good thing Garnet wasn't there when Jasper forced Fusion upon the Corrupted Gem... I dont think Jasper would like to see Garnet when Fusion is disgraced right in front of her...

      But if she saw Steven and Amethyst fuse, I'm sure she would have been amazed and proud of them.

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    • AveryKmae wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Don't worry everyone, this is a normal if not rare and drastic part of the redemption process, Jasper will be back someday
      tbh I think this is it for jasper. She's not willing to see anything good in Earth so it's about a 1% chance she'll get redeemed

      I dunno, becoming a metaphor not once but twice might just give her that push

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    • Fluf59001 wrote:
      AveryKmae wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Don't worry everyone, this is a normal if not rare and drastic part of the redemption process, Jasper will be back someday
      tbh I think this is it for jasper. She's not willing to see anything good in Earth so it's about a 1% chance she'll get redeemed
      I think we'll see more of Jasper, and I honestly think she has a chance at redemption. 

      Jasper just needs to be uncorrupted, which I'm guessing might take a while.

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    • Honestly, I don't see Jasper being redeemed. Don't get me wrong, she's one of my favorite characters in the show. I just can't see her being redeemed, she's too stubborn and against Rose and the rebellion that she wouldn't be willing to reason with the CG`s and play nice. Especially after this episode, that thing about Pink Diamond makes me think she's holding some serious grudges. That's just my opinion, though.

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    • MiniDaggers wrote:
      Sammyrashid15 wrote:
      Hey, can this discussion can also let us talk about the episode; "Beta"?
      It has its own thread.

      That's okay, I just found it. Thank you. ^u^

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    • I can't believe it, Crewniverse just got away with two metaphors using Jasper, three if you think about it although that third one was also presented by forced fusions...

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    • So, we've still got two episodes left in the season.

      Back in the first season the last two episodes were The Return and Jailbreak.

      Are we going to see something that is as impactful as those two were, and tops Beta/Earthlings?

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    • Many folks will think THIS is the ep that confirms Rose is Pink Diamond and honestly...I hope it is. Because if Rose WAS Pink Diamond, she didn't just rebel against Homeworld...she betrayed the people that served her specifically. Betrayed the people literally MADE for her, DESTROYED structures they reveled in protecting. Pretty sure their bringing her up in later eps, if they don't show her death, we got reason to worry, if they do than PHEW-Rose is JUST a murderer. 

      Either way, great episode! Smoky Quartz is a welcome addition...or "readdition" given this might be an alternate formation of the fusion, and while Jasper's fusion with a corrupted Quartz gave her Gem AIDS...her beast form looked SO RAD! MAN-its like the flippin' dark side, sure you can shoot lightning but you get all wrinkley.

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    • @Ronaldo: I doubt it.

      Still, there is hope.

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    • It's confirmed! Smoky Quartz is a fusion name!
      Smoky Quartz by Cocoa

      *O*

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    • Also its suggested Rose and Amethyst have formed Smoky Quartz before; when they say "I think Amethyst know this one" when asked about their name

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    • Ronaldo Smith wrote:
      So, we've still got two episodes left in the season.

      Back in the first season the last two episodes were The Return and Jailbreak.

      Are we going to see something that is as impactful as those two were, and tops Beta/Earthlings?


      It will be better, Navy and Leggy are in it

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    • Ridshadowfox wrote: I really felt sorry for Jasper, nobody loves her, her colony was destroyed, her Diamond was destroyed, she got corrupted... maybe there is still hope for her... maybe a litte, she has information.

      Ok Smokey Quartz was a little bit of a let down, the Yoyo was pretty cool, but her/him/it's design really looked rough, didn't look as good as the others. Even Malachite had a nicer design.

      It makes sense for their design to be like that, it's the first time they fused with each other and the first time Steven ever fused with a gem, which would be different to fusing with Connie.

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    • Lourdy4675 wrote:

      Ridshadowfox wrote: I really felt sorry for Jasper, nobody loves her, her colony was destroyed, her Diamond was destroyed, she got corrupted... maybe there is still hope for her... maybe a litte, she has information.

      Ok Smokey Quartz was a little bit of a let down, the Yoyo was pretty cool, but her/him/it's design really looked rough, didn't look as good as the others. Even Malachite had a nicer design.

      It makes sense for their design to be like that, it's the first time they fused with each other and the first time Steven ever fused with a gem, which would be different to fusing with Connie.

      I think its a good design, it merges their body types well, and shows how close they are to create a near perfect Fusion with only an extra arm... 

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    • Anybody have a theory as to why, when Steven and Amethyst fused, there was an explosion? No one has ever had that happen before when they fused.

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    • Is it just me or is Amethyst dominating smokey quartz

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    • And just with this Amethyst and Steven have shot up as one of my top 10 favorite cartoon siblings

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    • Yoshimickster wrote: Many folks will think THIS is the ep that confirms Rose is Pink Diamond and honestly...I hope it is. Because if Rose WAS Pink Diamond, she didn't just rebel against Homeworld...she betrayed the people that served her specifically. Betrayed the people literally MADE for her, DESTROYED structures they reveled in protecting. Pretty sure their bringing her up in later eps, if they don't show her death, we got reason to worry, if they do than PHEW-Rose is JUST a murderer. 

      Either way, great episode! Smoky Quartz is a welcome addition...or "readdition" given this might be an alternate formation of the fusion, and while Jasper's fusion with a corrupted Quartz gave her Gem AIDS...her beast form looked SO RAD! MAN-its like the flippin' dark side, sure you can shoot lightning but you get all wrinkley.

      This ep confirms she wasn't PD, Jasper said Rose did something to her, not that she became a Quartz.

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    • Sammyrashid15 wrote:
      It's confirmed! Smoky Quartz is a fusion name!
      Smoky Quartz by Cocoa

      *O*

      She's like Veku-BUT USEFUL! 

      Crillin:How come they kick so much butt as a chubby person, but you guys were lame?

      Goku/Vegeta:Shut up Chestnut.

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    • Ronaldo Smith wrote:
      Ridshadowfox wrote:
      I really felt sorry for Jasper, nobody loves her, her colony was destroyed, her Diamond was destroyed, she got corrupted... maybe there is still hope for her... maybe a litte, she has information.

      Ok Smokey Quartz was a little bit of a let down, the Yoyo was pretty cool, but her/him/it's design really looked rough, didn't look as good as the others. Even Malachite had a nicer design.

      Jasper didn't say Pink Diamond was destroyed, she just said that Rose did something to her. What was that something ? The possibilities are almost endless.

      Well since the evidence of pink diamond ever being has been mostly destroyed I'm guessing she was either shattered or poofed/ bubbled. We need Jasper  for a few more minutes to tell us what really happened to her. Pearl might know, maybe Garnet, but they may only know the second hand story.

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    • It's Krilllin, with a "K"

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    • HarringtonLittle wrote:

      Lourdy4675 wrote:

      Ridshadowfox wrote: I really felt sorry for Jasper, nobody loves her, her colony was destroyed, her Diamond was destroyed, she got corrupted... maybe there is still hope for her... maybe a litte, she has information.

      Ok Smokey Quartz was a little bit of a let down, the Yoyo was pretty cool, but her/him/it's design really looked rough, didn't look as good as the others. Even Malachite had a nicer design.

      It makes sense for their design to be like that, it's the first time they fused with each other and the first time Steven ever fused with a gem, which would be different to fusing with Connie.

      I think its a good design, it merges their body types well, and shows how close they are to create a near perfect Fusion with only an extra arm... 

      I like their design as well, like you said it merges the two of the well. I assume that perhaps with a bit more training they would have two extra arms instead of one, unless that's just how Smokey Quartz is. And if that's the case well that's fine.

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    • Yoshimickster wrote:
      Sammyrashid15 wrote:
      It's confirmed! Smoky Quartz is a fusion name!
      Smoky Quartz by Cocoa

      *O*

      She's like Veku-BUT USEFUL! 

      Crillin:How come they kick so much butt as a chubby person, but you guys were lame?

      Goku/Vegeta:Shut up Chestnut.

      Oh yeah, I know right?! I can see it, too. (-=)

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    • Pokemonboy3000 wrote: Jasper got HIV from fusing with a corrupted gem like how most STDs stem from human proximity with animals. 

      You're discussing things you don't actually know about.

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    • Godofderpymess wrote: Is it just me or is Amethyst dominating smokey quartz

      It would makes sense since she would have more experience with their weapon and know how to use it.

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    • So, pink diamond, jasper. OMG LIKE BRUH ok so jasper was first under pink diamond's rule, so was rose (of corse) and rose took out pink diamond, also ROSE IS NOT PINK DIAMOND CAN STOP NOW, sorry more people need to drop it. Also smoky Quartz was funny and just cool. Pink diamond thing was the most surprising, the rest I guessed well smokey I did but not Jasper's corruption. I rate this 10-10 awesome episodes. Beta was ok but this one is better.

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    • Ridshadowfox wrote:

      Ronaldo Smith wrote:
      Ridshadowfox wrote:
      I really felt sorry for Jasper, nobody loves her, her colony was destroyed, her Diamond was destroyed, she got corrupted... maybe there is still hope for her... maybe a litte, she has information.

      Ok Smokey Quartz was a little bit of a let down, the Yoyo was pretty cool, but her/him/it's design really looked rough, didn't look as good as the others. Even Malachite had a nicer design.

      Jasper didn't say Pink Diamond was destroyed, she just said that Rose did something to her. What was that something ? The possibilities are almost endless.

      Well since the evidence of pink diamond ever being has been mostly destroyed I'm guessing she was either shattered or poofed/ bubbled. We need Jasper  for a few more minutes to tell us what really happened to her. Pearl might know, maybe Garnet, but they may only know the second hand story.

      I doubt she was shattered, since we learned from Bismuth that Rose was against shattering gems. That leaves us with bubbling or something else.

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    • Peridot was right. This is disgusting. )-,:\
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    • Ronaldo Smith wrote:
      Anybody have a theory as to why, when Steven and Amethyst fused, there was an explosion? No one has ever had that happen before when they fused.

      Either to look cool, or since Smoky Quartz Gems are coloured through radiation and the explosion looked a bit like a Mushroom Cloud, and the smoke cloud could refer to her name as Smoky

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    • BigFanofEntertainment wrote:
      It's Krilllin, with a "K"

      Technically its Kulilin, but because that name is awful we made him Krillin! DUBS-sometimes we get it right! SERIOUSLY THOUGH-I must be more behind on Dragonball if I'm forgetting spelling!

      Lourdy4675 wrote:

      This ep confirms she wasn't PD, Jasper said Rose did something to her, not that she became a Quartz.

      Okay lemme paint a...dark picture. According to Jasper, and the rest of Gem society, and most people, Pink Diamond and Rose Quartz were different people. Now let's say they weren't, and that Rose Quartz staged her true identity's death. And then told the masses that she killed Pink Diamond, including the Gems that were made SPECIFICALLY for her-INCLUDING Jasper. At this point I need more confirmation, other-wise my dark theory will ALWAYS sit in my mind.

      ALSO-in this scenario Rose and Pink had to have had the same MIND but different bodies, if Rose was actually a quartz. HOWEVER-as shown by corrupted Gems, Gemstones can change shape so...there you go.

      I just want to say, this is a THEORY, based on circumstantial evidence. Just a theory... one I'm actually okay with being wrong on.

      And no I don't count ALL the tweets, some of them look intentionally vague.

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    • Sammyrashid15 wrote:
      Peridot was right. This is disgusting. )-,:\
      Earthlings 277

      And that's even how gems can get their selfs corrupted.

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    • I can't wait till my sister gets home... I won the bet that Jasper would fuse with a corrupted gem. :3

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    • Also... either only Amethyst can pull out her upgraded whip or the two whips are seperate as when Smoky summoned Amethysts Whip is was her original one

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    • Ronaldo Smith wrote:
      Anybody have a theory as to why, when Steven and Amethyst fused, there was an explosion? No one has ever had that happen before when they fused.


      Because SMOKY quartz. SMOKE. It's like Sardonyx's Dragonfly Curtain and Sugilite's Dragon

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    • HarringtonLittle wrote:

      Ronaldo Smith wrote:
      Anybody have a theory as to why, when Steven and Amethyst fused, there was an explosion? No one has ever had that happen before when they fused.

      Either to look cool, or since Smoky Quartz Gems are coloured through radiation and the explosion looked a bit like a Mushroom Cloud, and the smoke cloud could refer to her name as Smoky

      It might've been due to the emotion both of them were feeling at the time. They didn't synchronise physically, but emotionally with the desire to prove to Jasper that just because they aren't what they're suppose to be it doesn't mean that they can't win.

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    • 1Blurred Vision1 wrote:
      Honestly, I don't see Jasper being redeemed. Don't get me wrong, she's one of my favorite characters in the show. I just can't see her being redeemed, she's too stubborn and against Rose and the rebellion that she wouldn't be willing to reason with the CG`s and play nice. Especially after this episode, that thing about Pink Diamond makes me think she's holding some serious grudges. That's just my opinion, though.

      You are right and that's exactly she should understand that Steven is not Rose and whatver she did to Pink Diamond is not his fault.

      BTW i think that when Jasper says "I won't let you manipulate me" it's because she thinks that Rose manipulated Pink Diamond into the beginning the revelion and provably the other diamonds shattered Pink Diamond (after all one a diamond can cut another diamond) and provably Jasper blames Rose for that. Or something like that.

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    • Yoshimickster wrote:

      BigFanofEntertainment wrote:
      It's Krilllin, with a "K"

      Technically its Kulilin, but because that name is awful we made him Krillin! DUBS-sometimes we get it right! SERIOUSLY THOUGH-I must be more behind on Dragonball if I'm forgetting spelling!

      Lourdy4675 wrote:

      This ep confirms she wasn't PD, Jasper said Rose did something to her, not that she became a Quartz.

      Okay lemme paint a...dark picture. According to Jasper, and the rest of Gem society, and most people, Pink Diamond and Rose Quartz were different people. Now let's say they weren't, and that Rose Quartz staged her true identity's death. And then told the masses that she killed Pink Diamond, including the Gems that were made SPECIFICALLY for her-INCLUDING Jasper. At this point I need more confirmation, other-wise my dark theory will ALWAYS sit in my mind.

      ALSO-in this scenario Rose and Pink had to have had the same MIND but different bodies, if Rose was actually a quartz. HOWEVER-as shown by corrupted Gems, Gemstones can change shape so...there you go.

      I just want to say, this is a THEORY, based on circumstantial evidence. Just a theory... one I'm actually okay with being wrong on.

      And no I don't count ALL the tweets, some of them look intentionally vague.

      It's only been shown that a corupted gems gemstone can change, and with that said their gem has only changed physically and not drastically to the point where the shape is completely different. So unless Rose is a corrupted version of PD who someone doesn't go crazy and was able to change her gem to the point it was a completely different shape, I doubt they're the same gem.

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    • TheMisteriousDrB wrote:

      You are right and that's exactly she should understand that Steven is not Rose and whatver she did to Pink Diamond is not his fault.

      BTW i think that when Jasper says "I won't let you manipulate me" it's because she thinks that Rose manipulated Pink Diamond into the beginning the revelion and provably the other diamonds shattered Pink Diamond (after all one a diamond can cut another diamond) and provably Jasper blames Rose for that. Or something like that.

      This brings me...to another theory. Pink Diamond isn't dead, and every action Rose Quartz did was under Pink Diamond's programming.

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    • Also on a side note, I think its indirectly revealed Steven can heal himself, as Jaspers swipe that ripped his clothes left no damage after Steven pulled his hand away, one of which had his healing spit on it

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    • Dose anybody even know what's the name for this fusion, right here? )-=)
      Earthlings-Jasperfusion
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    • TheMisteriousDrB wrote:

      1Blurred Vision1 wrote:
      Honestly, I don't see Jasper being redeemed. Don't get me wrong, she's one of my favorite characters in the show. I just can't see her being redeemed, she's too stubborn and against Rose and the rebellion that she wouldn't be willing to reason with the CG`s and play nice. Especially after this episode, that thing about Pink Diamond makes me think she's holding some serious grudges. That's just my opinion, though.

      You are right and that's exactly she should understand that Steven is not Rose and whatver she did to Pink Diamond is not his fault.

      BTW i think that when Jasper says "I won't let you manipulate me" it's because she thinks that Rose manipulated Pink Diamond into the beginning the revelion and provably the other diamonds shattered Pink Diamond (after all one a diamond can cut another diamond) and provably Jasper blames Rose for that. Or something like that.

      It might also be due to that fact that in Jasper's eyes Rose manipulated all the gems that fought on her side. She talked about how Rose only wants to help gems once they're too weak to help themselves.

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    • Sammyrashid15 wrote:

      Dose anybody even know what's the name for this fusion, right here? )-=)
      Earthlings-Jasperfusion

      That face tho.

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    • Lourdy4675 wrote:

      Sammyrashid15 wrote:

      Dose anybody even know what's the name for this fusion, right here? )-=)
      Earthlings-Jasperfusion
      That face tho.

      I belive that Jasper's voice actor got fired or quitting is the reason why jasper is gone FOREVER 

      Also Jasper suck at fighting fusions 

      Also I like that jasper fusion design

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    • I screamed when i saw Smoky Quartz

      Me : SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

      My Brother : OMG!

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    • Coyotessa wrote:
      I screamed when i saw Smoky Quartz

      Me : SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

      My Brother : OMG!

      I did, too! ((-=)

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    • So.. the corrupted gems that Jasper were pestering with at the time were.. Old Jaspers?

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    • Am I the only one who thought that Smoky pretty much beating Jasper was a little cheap?I

      I mean between Garnet and Jasper it was a fairly even fight if I recall correctly while with Smoky she just rekted Jasper and her fusion form.

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    • Coyotessa wrote:
      So.. the corrupted gems that Jasper were pestering with at the time were.. Old Jaspers?

      I dunno, I think some of them were Amethysts actually.

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    • Coyotessa wrote:
      So.. the corrupted gems that Jasper were pestering with at the time were.. Old Jaspers?


      Not all of them. I swear I saw a cluster from Nightmare Hospital and the Water Bear too

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    • MiniDaggers wrote:
      Am I the only one who thought that Smoky pretty much beating Jasper was a little cheap?I

      I mean between Garnet and Jasper it was a fairly even fight if I recall correctly while with Smoky she just rekted Jasper and her fusion form.

      Well, to be fair, Smoky only got her busy to the point she decided to fuse, and even the fusion was unstable so it defused quickly. Then Jasper started to get corrupted and lost.

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    • MiniDaggers wrote:
      Am I the only one who thought that Smoky pretty much beating Jasper was a little cheap?I

      I mean between Garnet and Jasper it was a fairly even fight if I recall correctly while with Smoky she just rekted Jasper and her fusion form.

      Smoky is two Quartz Gems fused into another Quartz Gem. Smoky would easily over power Jasper because of this, and the Corrupted Fusion was too unstable to put up a good fight

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    • Watching Jasper slowly corrupt was like watching a tumblr conflict escalate. Therefore I must conclude that the site is populated by corrupted gems.

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    • Sammyrashid15 wrote:

      Dose anybody even know what's the name for this fusion, right here? )-=)
      Earthlings-Jasperfusion

      Giga-Bowser.

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    • HarringtonLittle wrote:
      MiniDaggers wrote:
      Am I the only one who thought that Smoky pretty much beating Jasper was a little cheap?I

      I mean between Garnet and Jasper it was a fairly even fight if I recall correctly while with Smoky she just rekted Jasper and her fusion form.

      Smoky is two Quartz Gems fused into another Quartz Gem. Smoky would easily over power Jasper because of this, and the Corrupted Fusion was too unstable to put up a good fight

      How was the corrupted fusion was too unstable

      Jasper was in better control than Malachite 

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    • Ed486 wrote:
      Watching Jasper slowly corrupt was like watching a tumblr conflict escalate. Therefore I must conclude that the site is populated by corrupted gems.


      A cluster of corrupted gems.

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    • Well they finally poofed Jasper thanks oddly to peridot with the finishing blow, but we learnt more about corruption and about there being a pink Diamond. Also I loved Amethyst and Steven's fusion Smoky Quartz. Smoky Quartz and how she fights reminds me of a certain TV Trope.

      Fusion is about love, following on from Beta, Amethyst had been in a bad mood because she kept thinking about Jasper, and when Steven finally made Amethyst realise that she does not need to be like Jasper in order to be perfect, They are both imperfect in a way but that is what makes them so great. He made her feel better about herself and about who she is and they fused when she hugged him.

      Its that feeling when you are feeling depressed and feel like you are worthless, than someone you care about reminds you that you are not worthless and you mean something and for that one moment that person makes you feel really special and you are so grateful to them you would do anything for them. Amethyst and Steven's heartwarming moment lead to that awesome fusion Smoky Quartz and together, Jasper just was not a match for them because they were oddly too quick and agile as Smoky Quartz for Jasper. It reminds me of the TV Trope "Acrofatic" http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Acrofatic. I actually think Smoky Quartz is one of my favourite fusions because of what she represents. Imperfection can lead to perfection and I think its awesome.

      Speaking about depression, Jasper only started to corrupt when the Corrupted gem fled from her and she looked crestfallen when she said that nobody ever wants to stay fused with her. Corruption is basically a mental breakdown. However what she said about Rose was interesting. There was indeed a Pink Diamond and Jasper said that Pink Diamond was "Their Diamond" while still thinking that Steven is Rose. So it sounds like Rose and Jasper both served under Pink Diamond, however Rose did something to Pink Diamond which probably destroyed or captured her.

      Rose betrayed Pink Diamond in order to protect the Earth because remember the Diamonds wanted to destroy the Earth. I think we will find out exactly what Rose did to Pink Diamond in the next episode Back 2 the moon since it is part of Beta and Earthlings. Things are getting really interesting.

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    • It makes sense that Smoky was the fusion between Amethyst and Steven, smoky quartz are known for clearing up negativity so what better fusion then between two gems that have been struggling with self esteem issues

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    • MikeOfWind wrote:
      HarringtonLittle wrote:
      MiniDaggers wrote:
      Am I the only one who thought that Smoky pretty much beating Jasper was a little cheap?I

      I mean between Garnet and Jasper it was a fairly even fight if I recall correctly while with Smoky she just rekted Jasper and her fusion form.

      Smoky is two Quartz Gems fused into another Quartz Gem. Smoky would easily over power Jasper because of this, and the Corrupted Fusion was too unstable to put up a good fight
      How was the corrupted fusion was too unstable

      Jasper was in better control than Malachite 

      The Corrupted Fusion came apart without being hit, or reciving any damage, meaning Jasper wasnt in full control and wasnt able to keep the Corrupted Gem bound to her.  And your argument doesnt really make sense Jasper had better control of Malachite because Lapis could fight back anymore, whereas the Corrupted Gem didnt want to be in the fusion and probably fought Jasper off or out of the Fusion.

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    • MikeOfWind wrote:

      HarringtonLittle wrote:
      MiniDaggers wrote:
      Am I the only one who thought that Smoky pretty much beating Jasper was a little cheap?I

      I mean between Garnet and Jasper it was a fairly even fight if I recall correctly while with Smoky she just rekted Jasper and her fusion form.

      Smoky is two Quartz Gems fused into another Quartz Gem. Smoky would easily over power Jasper because of this, and the Corrupted Fusion was too unstable to put up a good fight

      How was the corrupted fusion was too unstable

      Jasper was in better control than Malachite 

      She fused with a walking bundle of mind-shattering trauma. She shouldn'ta did that.

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    • CONTAGIOUS mind-shattering trauma as well!

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    • So the corruption is like a virus that tears at the mind...just what was in that light?

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    • Yoshimickster wrote: CONTAGIOUS mind-shattering trauma as well!

      And she turned down the cure. I sure hope that face she saved was worth an eternity of body-morphing insanity that would make Simon Petrikov count his blessings.

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote: So the corruption is like a virus that tears at the mind...just what was in that light?

      I think it's more that Jasper just retroactively experienced the initial corruption when they became one. In other words, she got corruptd the same way the others did, just thousands of years later.

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      So the corruption is like a virus that tears at the mind...just what was in that light?

      I reckon it was a bit of both actually.

      A stable mind could possibly fuse with a corrupted gem and survive without being corrupted. Someone like Jasper though who was practically going mad at that point or the gems who recently fought in the war dealing with the psychology of that would be far more susceptible to corruption.

      My theory anyway.

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    • Rose is the true villain 

      she want to rid all the homeworld gems

      she lied to the gems

      she kill Pink diamond

      and now Rose turn into steven so everyone can blame steven 

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    • Ed486 wrote:

      Yoshimickster wrote: CONTAGIOUS mind-shattering trauma as well!

      And she turned down the cure. I sure hope that face she saved was worth an eternity of body-morphing insanity that would make Simon Petrikov count his blessings.

      In her defense, it was Rose Quartz(or a facsimile there-of) offering a cure, someone who by her knowledge destroyed her beloved diamond.

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    • And she did just get out of a toxic fusion...

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    • 1Blurred Vision1 wrote:
      Honestly, I don't see Jasper being redeemed. Don't get me wrong, she's one of my favorite characters in the show. I just can't see her being redeemed, she's too stubborn and against Rose and the rebellion that she wouldn't be willing to reason with the CG`s and play nice. Especially after this episode, that thing about Pink Diamond makes me think she's holding some serious grudges. That's just my opinion, though.

      I agree. I believe we at 50/50 on redemption. I wanna c jasper redeemed, and for a split second, looking at the desperation in her face when she says nobody wants to stay with her. But the rage when she mentions Pink Diamond, thats our block to redemption, not her being pissed about the war in general, but what Rose did to her diamond. Have no doubt, this is personal.

      After seeing this ep i was wondering if anybody else would like to see if Jasper and Rose were perhaps close back when they served under Pink Diamond, before Rose's betrayal. Not Ruby and Sapphire close but mutual solidarity. It would give the personal vendetta a little more depth, i believe. Any for ? Any opposed ?

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    • It is an interesting turn; Steven's meeting people now who don't understand that he's a human child, and while his early years were spent in blissful naivete, now he's being called to answer for all the shady things his mom did. Poor kid.

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    • Ed486 wrote:
      It is an interesting turn; Steven's meeting people now who don't understand that he's a human child, and while his early years were spent in blissful naivete, now he's being called to answer for all the shady things his mom did. Poor kid.

      Its like Finn's depressing journey on Adventure Time, but with the fast-forward button on!

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    • A Jasper redemption now would involve a leash and potato chips. I can get behind that.

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    • I think it was her pride that result of Jasper not only being corrupted but immediately get poofed by Peridot of all people!

      There's no way they can cured Jasper because she got corruption in her.

      Finally! You happy now! People?! It's confirm that Steven FINALLY Fused with Gem! It took us 100 Episodes for this to happens!

      Rubies Squad are back and they are ANGRY!

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    • jasper's corruption was really unsettling. so many people had grown to love her and hoped for a potential redemption, but now she's just... gone. and corrupted forever, or at least until they figure out how to reverse corruption. for example, when centi reformed, she didnt become de-corrupt, so we know that jasper may never go back to the way she was. just... speaking in disturbing shrieks and groans if she ever comes back.


      all of that depressing stuff aside, i loved smoky quartz so much. she is the greatest just look at this face
      BLARP

      how could you not love this beautiful child

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    • MikeOfWind wrote:
      Rose is the true villain 

      she want to rid all the homeworld gems

      she lied to the gems

      she kill Pink diamond

      and now Rose turn into steven so everyone can blame steven 

      1. No where was it stated that Rose wanted to get rid of all of the Homeworld Gems.

      2. Eh, you kinda have a point there

      3. We don't that, but even if she did Pink Diamond was trying to destroy the Earth, she did what she did to save the Earth

      4. No, just no, she gave birth to Steven so that he could hopefully save the corrupted gems, maybe even save Homeworld

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    • The moment Smokey Quartz's theme started I knew we were in for a treat.

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    • MikeOfWind wrote:
      Rose is the true villain 

      she want to rid all the homeworld gems

      she lied to the gems

      she kill Pink diamond

      and now Rose turn into steven so everyone can blame steven 


      Actually... That last point kinda makes sense? It's at the least not completaly out of this world. But I still don't belive it.

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    • AquaticPanic wrote:
      MikeOfWind wrote:
      Rose is the true villain 

      she want to rid all the homeworld gems

      she lied to the gems

      she kill Pink diamond

      and now Rose turn into steven so everyone can blame steven 


      Actually... That last point kinda makes sense? It's at the least not completaly out of this world. But I still don't belive it.

      Where as I can half believe it...every theory featuring Rose is going to be dark and scary from now on.

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    • Glad to see steven finally fusing with a gem.

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    • So this was supposed to be the end of season 2 before the network cut it in half. And where Garnet's big moment was at the end of season one, Amethyst's was tonight. Which means the end of what is now season 5 should have an epic Pearl fight. Game on.

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    • MikeOfWind wrote:
      Rose is the true villain 

      she want to rid all the homeworld gems

      she lied to the gems

      she kill Pink diamond

      and now Rose turn into steven so everyone can blame steven 

      Actually no. Rose never wants to shatter a gem and how would she take down a Diamond considering how big and presumably how powerful they are. Something does not smell right and we will get answers. Plus if it was not for Rose, all life on Earth would be kind of dead. Hopefully next episode we will get answers on what exactly is going on.

      I love how childish Smoky Quartz is, although I have seen people complain that they do not like her because she is fat....Um look at Steven and look at Amethyst. What were people expecting? Also did anybody notice that when Amethyst bubbled Jasper she called her sis, And then Amethyst and Steven had that sweet moment at the end as well as them hugging earlier to become Smoky Quartz, there is a lot of heart in this episode. Smoky Quartz represents Imperfection is perfection and I actually think she is a beautiful Fusion in more ways than just looks.

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    • Ed486 wrote:
      So this was supposed to be the end of season 2 before the network cut it in half. And where Garnet's big moment was at the end of season one, Amethyst's was tonight. Which means the end of what is now season 5 should have an epic Pearl fight. Game on.

      The epic Pearl fight was "Mr. Greg", Pearl vs. Greg/Steven tag team. Pearl lost.

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    • Smokey Quartz was awesome. Third best fusion no question. Exactly what a Steven/Amethyst combo needed to be. Like Pearl said way back in Serious Steven, they're the dissaster waiting to happen.

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    • 1Blurred Vision1 wrote:
      Honestly, I don't see Jasper being redeemed. Don't get me wrong, she's one of my favorite characters in the show. I just can't see her being redeemed, she's too stubborn and against Rose and the rebellion that she wouldn't be willing to reason with the CG`s and play nice. Especially after this episode, that thing about Pink Diamond makes me think she's holding some serious grudges. That's just my opinion, though.

      I totally agree with you. I can't picture Jasper becoming a good person in relation to the Crystal Gems. What I do think though is that she will rebel against the Homeworld Gems. She will be neither good nor completely evil. I can picture her stealthily helping the Crystal Gems in a stubborn way while denying any part of it. I believe that she wants to be apart of something like the Crystal Gems, but again, she's too stubborn to join them and in a way think that they truly are weak as heck. Maybe Jasper will find another Gem like her and the two of them will support and be there for each other. I think that's the best thing for her. But if something like that is every going to happen, it won't happen very soon. 

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    • CheekinSammich wrote:
      1Blurred Vision1 wrote:
      Honestly, I don't see Jasper being redeemed. Don't get me wrong, she's one of my favorite characters in the show. I just can't see her being redeemed, she's too stubborn and against Rose and the rebellion that she wouldn't be willing to reason with the CG`s and play nice. Especially after this episode, that thing about Pink Diamond makes me think she's holding some serious grudges. That's just my opinion, though.
      I totally agree with you. I can't picture Jasper becoming a good person in relation to the Crystal Gems. What I do think though is that she will rebel against the Homeworld Gems. She will be neither good nor completely evil. I can picture her stealthily helping the Crystal Gems in a stubborn way while denying any part of it. I believe that she wants to be apart of something like the Crystal Gems, but again, she's too stubborn to join them and in a way think that they truly are weak as heck. Maybe Jasper will find another Gem like her and the two of them will support and be there for each other. I think that's the best thing for her. But if something like that is every going to happen, it won't happen very soon. 


      Before all this talk of redemption, you gotta keep in mind she's corrupted now, pretty much a "disease" that only has one temporary (and ineffective) cure.

      she's just about has mindless has every other corrupted gem now (excluding the centipeedle)

      She sealed her own deal when she refused stevens spit.

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    • So its:Find a cure for corruption ->Indocrinate her into the Crystal Gems.

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    • Yoshimickster wrote: So its:Find a cure for corruption ->Indocrinate her into the Crystal Gems.

      Tied to a chair and forced to watch Camp Pining Hearts while Steven reads Unfamiliar Familiar to her and stuffs pizza down her throat. Homeworld's on the move so they've gotta make this one a quickie.

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    • Ed486 wrote:

      Yoshimickster wrote: So its:Find a cure for corruption ->Indocrinate her into the Crystal Gems.

      Tied to a chair and forced to watch Camp Pining Hearts while Steven reads Unfamiliar Familiar to her and stuffs pizza down her throat. Homeworld's on the move so they've gotta make this one a quickie.


      okay now that just sounds wrong lol

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    • Well I suppose they could also lock her in a shed and blast "Peace and Love on the Planet Earth" through some speakers until she cracks.

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    • Ed486 wrote:

      Yoshimickster wrote: So its:Find a cure for corruption ->Indocrinate her into the Crystal Gems.

      Tied to a chair and forced to watch Camp Pining Hearts while Steven reads Unfamiliar Familiar to her and stuffs pizza down her throat. Homeworld's on the move so they've gotta make this one a quickie.

      They'll also have to compress every song they've ever sung into one MP4, for effectivenesses sake.

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    • SteelRunner15 wrote:

      Ed486 wrote:

      Yoshimickster wrote: So its:Find a cure for corruption ->Indocrinate her into the Crystal Gems.

      Tied to a chair and forced to watch Camp Pining Hearts while Steven reads Unfamiliar Familiar to her and stuffs pizza down her throat. Homeworld's on the move so they've gotta make this one a quickie.


      okay now that just sounds wrong lol

      And Pearl sings and cries and does samuraish stuff while Garnet points out different kinds of love and approves of them

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    • About what Jasper said about Pink Diamond:

      According to Peridot, Jasper was created well after the Rebellion started.

      So how would she know anything about Pink Diamond and what Rose might have "done" to her?

      She wouldn't. She would only know what Yellow Diamond's people told her.

      And do you think Yellow Diamond's people were honest? 

      I don't.

      So, whatever Jasper might have said is irrelevant hearsay, as they say in court.

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    • Yoshimickster wrote:
      Ed486 wrote:

      Yoshimickster wrote: So its:Find a cure for corruption ->Indocrinate her into the Crystal Gems.

      Tied to a chair and forced to watch Camp Pining Hearts while Steven reads Unfamiliar Familiar to her and stuffs pizza down her throat. Homeworld's on the move so they've gotta make this one a quickie.
      They'll also have to compress every song they've ever sung into one MP4, for effectivenesses sake.

      Let's not forget that in each of the Crystal gems will need to be fused with another to make Jasper really uncomfortable. 

      Or just all fused into one.

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    • Well wow Pink diamond completly confirmed. PD equals rose theory shatterred(pun intended). Smoky Quartz! Steven can fuse with gems. Lapidot confirmed.

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    • MiniDaggers wrote:

      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      So the corruption is like a virus that tears at the mind...just what was in that light?

      I reckon it was a bit of both actually.

      A stable mind could possibly fuse with a corrupted gem and survive without being corrupted. Someone like Jasper though who was practically going mad at that point or the gems who recently fought in the war dealing with the psychology of that would be far more susceptible to corruption.

      My theory anyway.

      I don't think it matters on the mind of the gem, fusing with a corrupted gem exposses the gem to their mind, and in turn their corruption. The original corruption of gems was due to them being hit with the sound and light from the diamonds, it wasn't down to whether or not their mind was stable or not and I think that same has to do with Jasper's corruption. It came down to the fact she exposed herself to the corruption of the gem she fused with.

      I felt sorry for Jasper when she said that everyone that fused with her just wanted to leave her. I know it may just come down to her wanting to use their strength to make herself stronger, but with how she said it, it seems that she wants more than just power out of a fusion, and actually wants a kind of relationship with someone where they don't just end up leaving her.

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    • My theory was always that Pink Diamond wanted to spare Earth so the other diamonds done skii-bopped her and covered it up.

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    • Ronaldo Smith wrote:
      About what Jasper said about Pink Diamond:

      According to Peridot, Jasper was created well after the Rebellion started.

      So how would she know anything about Pink Diamond and what Rose might have "done" to her?

      She wouldn't. She would only know what Yellow Diamond's people told her.

      And do you think Yellow Diamond's people were honest? 

      I don't.

      So, whatever Jasper might have said is irrelevant hearsay, as they say in court.

      VERY good point! I would not be surprised at all if the remaing Diamonds have been feeding the latest Gems with lies about the Gem War and events following/leading up to it

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    • Migo.Jason wrote:

      Well wow Pink diamond completly confirmed. PD equals rose theory shatterred(pun intended). Smoky Quartz! Steven can fuse with gems. Lapidot confirmed.

      And maybe this may help the theory of lion being a corrupted diamond, with his mane being a reformed gem

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    • Is it possible Pearl and Steven can fuse into something similar to Rainbow Quartz? But Steven's human half would add something to the pre-existing Rainbow Quartz form. So what would that do to the fusion?

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    • Ronaldo Smith wrote:
      About what Jasper said about Pink Diamond:

      According to Peridot, Jasper was created well after the Rebellion started.

      So how would she know anything about Pink Diamond and what Rose might have "done" to her?

      She wouldn't. She would only know what Yellow Diamond's people told her.

      And do you think Yellow Diamond's people were honest? 

      I don't.

      So, whatever Jasper might have said is irrelevant hearsay, as they say in court.

      Rose could've started the rebellion before offing Pink Diamond...under her secret orders. 

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    • SQ's dialogue implies that it would be a different fusion gem with the same name. So it'd be Rainbow Quartz, but not the same one Greg met.

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    • Ed486 wrote:
      My theory was always that Pink Diamond wanted to spare Earth so the other diamonds done skii-bopped her and covered it up.

      I have a strong theory that's kind fo similar to this as well. I posted my findings in the forum regarding what we think happened to Pink Diamond. I think that she agreed with Rose and the two of them planned something together. They staged Pink Diamonds death/disappearance, Rose bubbled her for safe keeping and hid her away, and when Rose retruns one day she'll bring back Pink Diamonds Gem and use her to defeat the other Diamonds. (It has to do with the Mural from Serious Steven)

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    • Ronaldo Smith wrote: About what Jasper said about Pink Diamond:

      According to Peridot, Jasper was created well after the Rebellion started.

      So how would she know anything about Pink Diamond and what Rose might have "done" to her?

      She wouldn't. She would only know what Yellow Diamond's people told her.

      And do you think Yellow Diamond's people were honest? 

      I don't.

      So, whatever Jasper might have said is irrelevant hearsay, as they say in court.

      That's a good point, the beta kindergarten wasn't started until about half way through the rebellion so Jasper could've only known about what had happened to PD through secondhand sources. It's entirely possible that the other diamonds simply lied about what actually happened and just blamed Rose as she was already seen as a traitor, and it just gave the gems more of a reason to fight against her.

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    • Take a moment to apreciate this shot

      Rose is not the only gem with feminine body parts
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    • Ed486 wrote:
      So this was supposed to be the end of season 2 before the network cut it in half. And where Garnet's big moment was at the end of season one, Amethyst's was tonight. Which means the end of what is now season 5 should have an epic Pearl fight. Game on.

      According to Matt Bubbled was written as the end of this season.

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    • AquaticPanic wrote:
      Take a moment to apreciate this shot
      Rose is not the only gem with feminine body parts

      This is true beauty

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    • AquaticPanic wrote:
      Take a moment to apreciate this shot
      Rose is not the only gem with feminine body parts

      Finally, some definite tatas.

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    • This episode are my favorite new SU episode I've ever seen! I really feel sorry for Jasper. :(

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    • Lasnap wrote:

      Ed486 wrote:
      So this was supposed to be the end of season 2 before the network cut it in half. And where Garnet's big moment was at the end of season one, Amethyst's was tonight. Which means the end of what is now season 5 should have an epic Pearl fight. Game on.

      According to Matt Bubbled was written as the end of this season.

      Well poo.

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    • oh...Ed486 wrote:

      Lasnap wrote:

      Ed486 wrote:
      So this was supposed to be the end of season 2 before the network cut it in half. And where Garnet's big moment was at the end of season one, Amethyst's was tonight. Which means the end of what is now season 5 should have an epic Pearl fight. Game on.
      According to Matt Bubbled was written as the end of this season.

      Well poo.

      oh...

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    • Ronaldo Smith wrote:
      AquaticPanic wrote:
      Take a moment to apreciate this shot
      Rose is not the only gem with feminine body parts
      Finally, some definite tatas.

      You pervs. XD

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    • Lourdy4675 wrote:

      Ronaldo Smith wrote: About what Jasper said about Pink Diamond:

      According to Peridot, Jasper was created well after the Rebellion started.

      So how would she know anything about Pink Diamond and what Rose might have "done" to her?

      She wouldn't. She would only know what Yellow Diamond's people told her.

      And do you think Yellow Diamond's people were honest? 

      I don't.

      So, whatever Jasper might have said is irrelevant hearsay, as they say in court.

      That's a good point, the beta kindergarten wasn't started until about half way through the rebellion so Jasper could've only known about what had happened to PD through secondhand sources. It's entirely possible that the other diamonds simply lied about what actually happened and just blamed Rose as she was already seen as a traitor, and it just gave the gems more of a reason to fight against her.

      Are we sure the rebellion started with the death (if that is what rose did to her) of PD? PD's death could have been the cause for retreat. The other diamonds may have fled when they found out they were vulnerable, blasting the planet with a corruption beam and leaving the cluster as a backup plan for total earth destruction just in case whatever could kill them may have survived corruption.

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    • Ed486 wrote: So this was supposed to be the end of season 2 before the network cut it in half. And where Garnet's big moment was at the end of season one, Amethyst's was tonight. Which means the end of what is now season 5 should have an epic Pearl fight. Game on.

      I'd love to see her fighting the other Pearls in a "Showdown at the House of Blue Leaves" style

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    • What do you suppose Jasper meant when she said "what you did to my diamond... My diamond, our diamond, PINK DIAMOND!"?

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    • Vanguard771 wrote:

      Lourdy4675 wrote:


      Ronaldo Smith wrote: About what Jasper said about Pink Diamond:

      According to Peridot, Jasper was created well after the Rebellion started.

      So how would she know anything about Pink Diamond and what Rose might have "done" to her?

      She wouldn't. She would only know what Yellow Diamond's people told her.

      And do you think Yellow Diamond's people were honest? 

      I don't.

      So, whatever Jasper might have said is irrelevant hearsay, as they say in court.

      That's a good point, the beta kindergarten wasn't started until about half way through the rebellion so Jasper could've only known about what had happened to PD through secondhand sources. It's entirely possible that the other diamonds simply lied about what actually happened and just blamed Rose as she was already seen as a traitor, and it just gave the gems more of a reason to fight against her.
      Are we sure the rebellion started with the death (if that is what rose did to her) of PD? PD's death could have been the cause for retreat. The other diamonds may have fled when they found out they were vulnerable, blasting the planet with a corruption beam and leaving the cluster as a backup plan for total earth destruction just in case whatever could kill them may have survived corruption.

      While that, or something similar, is possible, but I tend to doubt it because of The Answer.

      In The Answer we see Blue Diamond on Earth trying to end the Rebellion. Why would Blue Diamond come to Earth, basically stepping into what I assume was Pink Diamonds juristiction, unless something had already happened to Pink Diamond? And we know the Rebellion continued for a long time after The Answer because that was when Garnet first joined.

      This is of course a certain degree of suposition, but that is the way it looks to me.

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    • Benjamin DiVittorio wrote:
      What do you suppose Jasper meant when she said "what you did to my diamond... My diamond, our diamond, PINK DIAMOND!"?

      Well, some assumed this meant that Rose shattered, AKA killed, PD, but it could mean something else. We don't know for sure what exactly Rose "did" to PD, but sooner or later, we'll find out.

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    • Tom Topaz wrote:

      Ed486 wrote: So this was supposed to be the end of season 2 before the network cut it in half. And where Garnet's big moment was at the end of season one, Amethyst's was tonight. Which means the end of what is now season 5 should have an epic Pearl fight. Game on.

      I'd love to see her fighting the other Pearls in a "Showdown at the House of Blue Leaves" style

      Honestly I want Pearl to be the one to battle Yellow Diamond, with or without Steven's help. Either would be fine with me.

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    • Benjamin DiVittorio wrote:
      What do you suppose Jasper meant when she said "what you did to my diamond... My diamond, our diamond, PINK DIAMOND!"?

      I think that the diamonds killed her and blamed it on Rose as to support their war effort for a few reasons and theories 

      1. The 4-diamond symbol is on only a few gem buildings on earth, likely meaning that during the gems' time on Earth, Pink Diamond was killed. 

      2. She was removed from the symbol in general. If she was killed by a rebel, wouldn't they have her there as a reminder? But rather she was killed and they then tried forgetting about her

      3. Bismuth's weapon was created to shatter gems, yet Rose refused it. Why refuse the weapon and then go ahead and kill a diamond? 

      4. Rose was Pink Diamond's, what if she learned how to be so loving from her or was able to convince Pink Diamond to join her side and thus was killed for if

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    • Ronaldo Smith wrote:

      Vanguard771 wrote:

      Lourdy4675 wrote:


      Ronaldo Smith wrote: About what Jasper said about Pink Diamond:

      According to Peridot, Jasper was created well after the Rebellion started.

      So how would she know anything about Pink Diamond and what Rose might have "done" to her?

      She wouldn't. She would only know what Yellow Diamond's people told her.

      And do you think Yellow Diamond's people were honest? 

      I don't.

      So, whatever Jasper might have said is irrelevant hearsay, as they say in court.

      That's a good point, the beta kindergarten wasn't started until about half way through the rebellion so Jasper could've only known about what had happened to PD through secondhand sources. It's entirely possible that the other diamonds simply lied about what actually happened and just blamed Rose as she was already seen as a traitor, and it just gave the gems more of a reason to fight against her.
      Are we sure the rebellion started with the death (if that is what rose did to her) of PD? PD's death could have been the cause for retreat. The other diamonds may have fled when they found out they were vulnerable, blasting the planet with a corruption beam and leaving the cluster as a backup plan for total earth destruction just in case whatever could kill them may have survived corruption.

      While that, or something similar, is possible, but I tend to doubt it because of The Answer.

      In The Answer we see Blue Diamond on Earth trying to end the Rebellion. Why would Blue Diamond come to Earth, basically stepping into what I assume was Pink Diamonds juristiction, unless something had already happened to Pink Diamond? And we know the Rebellion continued for a long time after The Answer because that was when Garnet first joined.

      This is of course a certain degree of suposition, but that is the way it looks to me.

      It feels weird for Jasper to call Pink Diamond "my diamond" if pink diamond had already been gone for awhile. It would be weird to asign regiments and citizens to a dead leader.

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    • So after this an Bismuth I have decided that Rose Quartz is super sketchy...like still an all around good person but one that has too many secrets for her own good.

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    • And that was Beta/Earthlings, and.....SWEET MONKEY JESUS IN A BOWL OF BANANAS!

      We're jumpin' in feet-first with this week, aren't we?!

      Lesee...first we confirm that Rose ISN'T Pink Diamond (thank Our Lady of Sarcasm).

      Then we see Gem corruption right before our eyes WITHOUT use of the song-thingy the Diamonds used.

      We get to see why Jasper has such a vendetta against Rose Quartz (not to mention it confirms that Jasper won't be redeemed anytime soon for this reason).

      Oh, and did I forget to mention that STEVEN AND AMETHYST FUSED?! By the unwashed golf balls of Thor, this took me completely by surprise!

      And that, yet again, is the beauty of Steven Universe; it always keeps you guessing on just what'll happen next, and how what happens next will go down.

      Also, it seems MY theory of what became of Pink Diamond has been debunked at least in part, since it seems Rose Quartz did the big destruction of her (presumably, anyway, I still have a hard time taking a beast of a Quartz's word like hers for it).

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    • MikeOfWind wrote:
      HarringtonLittle wrote:
      MiniDaggers wrote:
      Am I the only one who thought that Smoky pretty much beating Jasper was a little cheap?I

      I mean between Garnet and Jasper it was a fairly even fight if I recall correctly while with Smoky she just rekted Jasper and her fusion form.

      Smoky is two Quartz Gems fused into another Quartz Gem. Smoky would easily over power Jasper because of this, and the Corrupted Fusion was too unstable to put up a good fight
      How was the corrupted fusion was too unstable

      Jasper was in better control than Malachite 


      Because control and stability are not the same thing, instability carries visual cues like the glow of the light bodies seperating.  Jaspers dominance is shown by her speaking the fusions dialog and fusion persuing her goals.  But the combined fusion is still unstable.

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    • Do you guys think that Jasper fusing with the snow monster really caused her corruption? I mean, I think it's possible, but I don't think there was any real confirmation.

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    • Is anyone else getting some shady vibes from Rose and the Crystal Gems?

      It all started with Lapis when she said that the Crystal Gems knew she was in the mirror and did nothing to help her. I see now that she's sided with them, that concern could be put to rest, but I still can't shake the fact that Lapis was trapped all that time, and the Crystal Gems just continued to use her like an object. With the Crystal Gem's message being about freedom and individuality, it shocks me that they'd do something like that to another gem, especially one in a weakened state (cracked gem).

      Now Jasper has alluded to something happening between Pink Diamond and Rose, something deeper than disobeying orders and the Diamond Authority. It sounds like a personal betrayal?

      I realize that in war, everyone's hands are bloodied, but I'm starting to think Rose and the Crystal Gems weren't as heroic as I originally thought :/

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    • BigFanofEntertainment wrote: Do you guys think that Jasper fusing with the snow monster really caused her corruption? I mean, I think it's possible, but I don't think there was any real confirmation.

      She didn't become corrupted until after fusing with it, plus she started turning into what the corrupted gem she fused with looked like. I assume it was due to her being exposed to the corruption through the fusion as corruption is mental, and with fusion you share the minds of the gems you fuse with.

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    • Vanguard771 wrote:

      Ronaldo Smith wrote:

      Vanguard771 wrote:

      Lourdy4675 wrote:


      Ronaldo Smith wrote: About what Jasper said about Pink Diamond:

      According to Peridot, Jasper was created well after the Rebellion started.

      So how would she know anything about Pink Diamond and what Rose might have "done" to her?

      She wouldn't. She would only know what Yellow Diamond's people told her.

      And do you think Yellow Diamond's people were honest? 

      I don't.

      So, whatever Jasper might have said is irrelevant hearsay, as they say in court.

      That's a good point, the beta kindergarten wasn't started until about half way through the rebellion so Jasper could've only known about what had happened to PD through secondhand sources. It's entirely possible that the other diamonds simply lied about what actually happened and just blamed Rose as she was already seen as a traitor, and it just gave the gems more of a reason to fight against her.
      Are we sure the rebellion started with the death (if that is what rose did to her) of PD? PD's death could have been the cause for retreat. The other diamonds may have fled when they found out they were vulnerable, blasting the planet with a corruption beam and leaving the cluster as a backup plan for total earth destruction just in case whatever could kill them may have survived corruption.

      While that, or something similar, is possible, but I tend to doubt it because of The Answer.

      In The Answer we see Blue Diamond on Earth trying to end the Rebellion. Why would Blue Diamond come to Earth, basically stepping into what I assume was Pink Diamonds juristiction, unless something had already happened to Pink Diamond? And we know the Rebellion continued for a long time after The Answer because that was when Garnet first joined.

      This is of course a certain degree of suposition, but that is the way it looks to me.

      It feels weird for Jasper to call Pink Diamond "my diamond" if pink diamond had already been gone for awhile. It would be weird to asign regiments and citizens to a dead leader.

      That's true, but perhaps all the gems that were made on earth we assigned to PD or at least Jasper was and was told that the diamond she was suppose to serve was no longer around due to Rose. It's also possible that Rose didn't do something to PD until towards the end of the war, and that after losing one of its leaders Homeworld knew they weren't going to win and took off.

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    • I think Jasper is going to come back in Season 4 because in Catch and Release, Steven releases Peridot from a bubble because Peridot was telling them vital info when poofed. THis mirrors Jasper's poofing because she was saying that Rose did something to Pink Diamond. So I think Steven is going to pop her bubble and try to find ot more about Pink Diamond

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    • Akossi wrote: Is anyone else getting some shady vibes from Rose and the Crystal Gems?

      It all started with Lapis when she said that the Crystal Gems knew she was in the mirror and did nothing to help her. I see now that she's sided with them, that concern could be put to rest, but I still can't shake the fact that Lapis was trapped all that time, and the Crystal Gems just continued to use her like an object. With the Crystal Gem's message being about freedom and individuality, it shocks me that they'd do something like that to another gem, especially one in a weakened state (cracked gem).

      Now Jasper has alluded to something happening between Pink Diamond and Rose, something deeper than disobeying orders and the Diamond Authority. It sounds like a personal betrayal?

      I realize that in war, everyone's hands are bloodied, but I'm starting to think Rose and the Crystal Gems weren't as heroic as I originally thought :/

      "No such thing as a good war kiddo" Greg Universe

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    • Akossi wrote:
      Is anyone else getting some shady vibes from Rose and the Crystal Gems?

      It all started with Lapis when she said that the Crystal Gems knew she was in the mirror and did nothing to help her. I see now that she's sided with them, that concern could be put to rest, but I still can't shake the fact that Lapis was trapped all that time, and the Crystal Gems just continued to use her like an object. With the Crystal Gem's message being about freedom and individuality, it shocks me that they'd do something like that to another gem, especially one in a weakened state (cracked gem).

      Now Jasper has alluded to something happening between Pink Diamond and Rose, something deeper than disobeying orders and the Diamond Authority. It sounds like a personal betrayal?

      I realize that in war, everyone's hands are bloodied, but I'm starting to think Rose and the Crystal Gems weren't as heroic as I originally thought :/


      Hey, no one said (at least, not the creators) that the Crystal Gems were saints. Just look at Bismuth. And not only do I like Bismuth, but I SYMPATHIZE with her.

      Besides, as I've said to other regarding the Gem, Pearl probably jus assumed it was another Gem artifact. And who wouldn't?

      Does that make them right? Given what was said in Same Old World? No. But that doesn't make them bad either.

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    • Since Stevonnie uses They/them.  Shouldn't Smoky also use they/them?

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    • Yoshimickster wrote: HOWEVER-as shown by corrupted Gems, Gemstones can change shape so...there you go.

      What?

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    • Computerz5 wrote:
      I think Jasper is going to come back in Season 4 because in Catch and Release, Steven releases Peridot from a bubble because Peridot was telling them vital info when poofed. THis mirrors Jasper's poofing because she was saying that Rose did something to Pink Diamond. So I think Steven is going to pop her bubble and try to find ot more about Pink Diamond

      That may be, but it's kinda hard to speak to a corrupted Gem. Especially one like Jasper. The Centipeetle at least had some past good experiences with Steven, and to a degree has memory of what happened. Jasper's memories at this point are nothing but bad, so it's fair to assume that getting into from HER...isn't gonna be easy.

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    • It's war. War never ends perfectly. There are always casualties, enemies, and issues of trust from the third parties. We're supposed to become suspicious of events after they unfold. They want us to second guess the Crystal Gems at this point in the series.

      On a seperate note, what do you thing are the names for Steven's fusions with Garnet and Pearl respectively? Another quartz perhaps?

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    • Computerz5 wrote: I think Jasper is going to come back in Season 4 because in Catch and Release, Steven releases Peridot from a bubble because Peridot was telling them vital info when poofed. THis mirrors Jasper's poofing because she was saying that Rose did something to Pink Diamond. So I think Steven is going to pop her bubble and try to find ot more about Pink Diamond

      Can't really bring her back until there's a way to reverse corruption, she won't be able to tell Steven anything in her current state. Unless they do what they did with Centipeedle and Steven brings her half way for a while, but I feel like that would be pretty much copying Monster Reunion.

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    • Mathematicalbooks wrote: Since Stevonnie uses They/them.  Shouldn't Smoky also use they/them?

      I would assume so.

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    • ACWeapons wrote:
      It's war. War never ends perfectly. There are always casualties, enemies, and issues of trust from the third parties. We're supposed to become suspicious of events after they unfold. They want us to second guess the Crystal Gems at this point in the series.

      On a seperate note, what do you thing are the names for Steven's fusions with Garnet and Pearl respectively? Another quartz perhaps?

      I don't know about Garnet, but Pearl is Rainbow Quartz just in a different design.

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    • Mathematicalbooks wrote:

      I don't know about Garnet, but Pearl is Rainbow Quartz just in a different design.

      But if you add Steven to the mix, what will it do to Rainbow Quartz? Make her slightly thicker?

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    • ACWeapons wrote:
      It's war. War never ends perfectly. There are always casualties, enemies, and issues of trust from the third parties. We're supposed to become suspicious of events after they unfold. They want us to second guess the Crystal Gems at this point in the series.

      On a seperate note, what do you thing are the names for Steven's fusions with Garnet and Pearl respectively? Another quartz perhaps?


      Oh, so I'm not the only one interested in the implications of what happened with Smoky Quartz? Think about it, guys; we finally have a Steven Fusion that ISN'T human! This opens a floodgate-ful of possibilities! Personally, I'm banking on Fusions between Steven, Peridot and Lapis!

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    • Computerz5 wrote:
      I think Jasper is going to come back in Season 4 because in Catch and Release, Steven releases Peridot from a bubble because Peridot was telling them vital info when poofed. THis mirrors Jasper's poofing because she was saying that Rose did something to Pink Diamond. So I think Steven is going to pop her bubble and try to find ot more about Pink Diamond

      Completely unnecessary.

      All Steven has to do is, for once, ask questions of the Gems.

      Specifically ask Pearl. She was there. Ask her who Pink Diamond was. Ask her what happened.

      I think it is way past time that this all too obvious direct approach was taken.

      Or, if Steven still can't think of this obvious solution, maybe Connie or Amethyst could ask.

      But my gosh, somebody ASK PEARL!!

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    • I also can't believe it, that "Pink Diamond" finally gets to be mentioned and heard! (=-D

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    • *Sees Jasper getting corrupted*

      *Sees the metal stabs Jasper*

      Well I bet if you are a parent and you let your little kids watch this show, you regret it now

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    • Dinoboygreen wrote:


      Oh, so I'm not the only one interested in the implications of what happened with Smoky Quartz? Think about it, guys; we finally have a Steven Fusion that ISN'T human! This opens a floodgate-ful of possibilities! Personally, I'm banking on Fusions between Steven, Peridot and Lapis!

      Well Stevonnie was a 75% human/gem hybrid. Smoky Quartz was 75% gem. She's still a hybrid. But Peridot and Lapis aren't on a mutual level of emotional to warrant a proper fusion.

      By the way, the three arms on Smoky is a bit...odd, but I got used to it. And why didn't her yoyo have spiked edges? Doesn't Amethyst or Steven have spikes on their weapons?

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    • Dinoboygreen wrote:
      Akossi wrote:
      Is anyone else getting some shady vibes from Rose and the Crystal Gems?

      It all started with Lapis when she said that the Crystal Gems knew she was in the mirror and did nothing to help her. I see now that she's sided with them, that concern could be put to rest, but I still can't shake the fact that Lapis was trapped all that time, and the Crystal Gems just continued to use her like an object. With the Crystal Gem's message being about freedom and individuality, it shocks me that they'd do something like that to another gem, especially one in a weakened state (cracked gem).

      Now Jasper has alluded to something happening between Pink Diamond and Rose, something deeper than disobeying orders and the Diamond Authority. It sounds like a personal betrayal?

      I realize that in war, everyone's hands are bloodied, but I'm starting to think Rose and the Crystal Gems weren't as heroic as I originally thought :/


      Hey, no one said (at least, not the creators) that the Crystal Gems were saints. Just look at Bismuth. And not only do I like Bismuth, but I SYMPATHIZE with her.

      Besides, as I've said to other regarding the Gem, Pearl probably jus assumed it was another Gem artifact. And who wouldn't?

      Does that make them right? Given what was said in Same Old World? No. But that doesn't make them bad either.

      I agree. From what I've seen, the vast majority seems to believe Rose and the Crystal Gems can do no wrong or be flawed. I've always been irked by Pearl's obsessive and possessive feelings towards Rose, along with her superiority complex, but whenever I bring these things up I'm met with a barage of a) not really being a fan of the show, b) not knowing what I'm talking about, or c) vulgarities ; v ;

      I sympathize with Bismuth as well. The war really messed with her. It's clear that her intentions in the beginning were never to harm a gem, given the fact that she made a sword that would poof a gem, but not shatter them. Watching comrades die and fighting constantly really warped her for the worse :/

      But question, did other gem artifacts actually incorporate gems into them? I feel as though another gem would be able to recognize another gem. I feel that Pearl's ignorance was a conscious decision because it's what Rose wanted, and she loved her so she went along with it.

      You're right, I don't think it makes them bad, or the villains. But, it just makes me wonder what else is being hidden...

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    • Sammyrashid15 wrote:
      I also can't believe it, that "Pink Diamond" finally gets to be mentioned and heard! (=-D

      Well there goes the "Rose is Pink Diamond" theory. But not sure if Rose was made on Earth.

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    • Does anyone else think that there was something going on between Jasper and Rose? It seems like they were both underlings of Pink Diamond, and from the way Jasper talked about it combined with the way she mentioned how no one stayed with her seemed to indicate that there was something more going on there.  

      On an unrelated note, now that we know that Steven can fuse with Gems as well as humans, I'm excited to see not only Rainbow Quartz 2.0, but also Rose's version of Smoky Quartz(if such a fusion ever occured, the episode seems to point to no), and the Rose/Garnet and Steven/Garnet fusions(if Rose and Garnet ever fused).

      And now, looking back on this post, I'm imagining a Jasper rendition of It's Over, Isn't It... wow...

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    • Akossi wrote:
      Dinoboygreen wrote:
      Akossi wrote:
      Is anyone else getting some shady vibes from Rose and the Crystal Gems?

      It all started with Lapis when she said that the Crystal Gems knew she was in the mirror and did nothing to help her. I see now that she's sided with them, that concern could be put to rest, but I still can't shake the fact that Lapis was trapped all that time, and the Crystal Gems just continued to use her like an object. With the Crystal Gem's message being about freedom and individuality, it shocks me that they'd do something like that to another gem, especially one in a weakened state (cracked gem).

      Now Jasper has alluded to something happening between Pink Diamond and Rose, something deeper than disobeying orders and the Diamond Authority. It sounds like a personal betrayal?

      I realize that in war, everyone's hands are bloodied, but I'm starting to think Rose and the Crystal Gems weren't as heroic as I originally thought :/


      Hey, no one said (at least, not the creators) that the Crystal Gems were saints. Just look at Bismuth. And not only do I like Bismuth, but I SYMPATHIZE with her.

      Besides, as I've said to other regarding the Gem, Pearl probably jus assumed it was another Gem artifact. And who wouldn't?

      Does that make them right? Given what was said in Same Old World? No. But that doesn't make them bad either.

      I agree. From what I've seen, the vast majority seems to believe Rose and the Crystal Gems can do no wrong or be flawed. I've always been irked by Pearl's obsessive and possessive feelings towards Rose, along with her superiority complex, but whenever I bring these things up I'm met with a barage of a) not really being a fan of the show, b) not knowing what I'm talking about, or c) vulgarities ; v ;

      I sympathize with Bismuth as well. The war really messed with her. It's clear that her intentions in the beginning were never to harm a gem, given the fact that she made a sword that would poof a gem, but not shatter them. Watching comrades die and fighting constantly really warped her for the worse :/

      But question, did other gem artifacts actually incorporate gems into them? I feel as though another gem would be able to recognize another gem. I feel that Pearl's ignorance was a conscious decision because it's what Rose wanted, and she loved her so she went along with it.

      You're right, I don't think it makes them bad, or the villains. But, it just makes me wonder what else is being hidden...


      Well, if tomorrow's episode's of any indication, we'll find out.

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    • Poor jasper

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    • Orasp10 wrote:
      Does anyone else think that there was something going on between Jasper and Rose? It seems like they were both underlings of Pink Diamond, and from the way Jasper talked about it combined with the way she mentioned how no one stayed with her seemed to indicate that there was something more going on there.  

      On an unrelated note, now that we know that Steven can fuse with Gems as well as humans, I'm excited to see not only Rainbow Quartz 2.0, but also Rose's version of Smoky Quartz(if such a fusion ever occured, the episode seems to point to no), and the Rose/Garnet and Steven/Garnet fusions(if Rose and Garnet ever fused).

      And now, looking back on this post, I'm imagining a Jasper rendition of It's Over, Isn't It... wow...

      Actually it seemed the opposite, Steven asked what the fusion's name was and she knew it. As for the first part, i think the diamonds killed Pink Diamond and then blamed it on Rose

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote: Don't worry everyone, this is a normal if not rare and drastic part of the redemption process, Jasper will be back someday

      This just confirms her future redemption arc

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    • Mediawatcher wrote:

      Steven Bomb 17 wrote: Don't worry everyone, this is a normal if not rare and drastic part of the redemption process, Jasper will be back someday

      This just confirms her future redemption arc


      And the return of potentially cured corrupted gem besides her. Just saying, Centipeetle is still available.

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    • Mediawatcher wrote:
      Poor jasper


      I love how in the middle of these gigantic comments someone just pops up and post a comment with two words only lol

      But I agree, poor Jasper. Seeing her getting corrupted is one of the most disturbing things in the series. Not scarry, just disturbing.

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    • AquaticPanic wrote:

      Mediawatcher wrote:
      Poor jasper


      I love how in the middle of these gigantic comments someone just pops up and post a comment with two words only lol

      But I agree, poor Jasper. Seeing her getting corrupted is one of the most disturbing things in the series. Not scarry, just disturbing.

      i just got here, and just said the first things I wanted to say, but man she's a jerk, but she didn't deserve this

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    • AquaticPanic wrote:
      Mediawatcher wrote:
      Poor jasper

      I love how in the middle of these gigantic comments someone just pops up and post a comment with two words only lol

      But I agree, poor Jasper. Seeing her getting corrupted is one of the most disturbing things in the series. Not scarry, just disturbing.


      True, but one could also say that about Centipeetle as well. After all, she was ALREADY corrupted, sorta reverted, and gradually turned back in a manner straight out of a sci-fi horror flick!

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    • I'm excited for centipeetle to come back too, both her and Jasper will certainly make a return alongside bismuth.

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    • In my opinion a Jasper redemption arc at some point in the future is now a 100 percent certainty.  i said a few episodes back that jasper had to hit rock bottom before that could start and this is about as low as you can get. 


      But what i did not see coming was Jaspers complete self-awareness of the whole trope and comdemnation of rose IN that context as a person who bacially preys on other people in vulnorable situations, extending sympathy only after someone has been torn down to turn them to her side and build her army.  furthermore she out right says rose dose not just wait for ourside events she intentionally strips people of their dignity to make them vulnorable this paints rose in a highly negative and manipulative light and would undermine all of her compassionate acts if they are basically done for the wrong reasons.


      unfortunatly i expect most fans to dismiss jaspers words out of hand because we all know that steven has genuene empathy for others and none of it comes from a desire to manupulate and peridots immediate defence of steven is presented to make us feel that way.  but the whole of last weeks episodes have been hammering away on the message that steven is not rose and he is moraly BETTER then rose.  jaspers assesment of rose may indeed be 100 percent accurate, garnet is clearly recruited in a time of vulnorability and Pearl was likely recruited after she was rejected for being defective by homeworlds standards.  we have seen her inability to relate to greg as an equal and a certain way that she put him down almost without knowing it.  so everything jasper says is plausable for rose and i suspect we will see this theme come up again in an examination of roses past.


      This leads to the last lore bomb, that pink diamond was the diamond to whom both rose and jasper belonged and jasper blames rose for what ever transpired that caused pink diamond to be eliminated from the diamond authority.  what the nature of that act was though is not made clear and i am convinced it was not simply shattering her, first it's implausable that rose or any quartz could ever have that kind of power to simply fight a diamond and win, it is also totally inconsistent with the anti-shattering doctrine ascribed to rose by bismuth.  i think that rose introduced a dangerous IDEA to pink diamond, perhapse persuaded her to embrace some aspect of the rebellion.  and because of this change in pink diamonds loayalties they the remaining diamonds turned on her and either shattered, corrupted or bubbled her and removed her from the diamond authority and divided her former followers amoungst themselves.

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    • Dinoboygreen wrote:

      AquaticPanic wrote:
      Mediawatcher wrote:
      Poor jasper

      I love how in the middle of these gigantic comments someone just pops up and post a comment with two words only lol

      But I agree, poor Jasper. Seeing her getting corrupted is one of the most disturbing things in the series. Not scarry, just disturbing.


      True, but one could also say that about Centipeetle as well. After all, she was ALREADY corrupted, sorta reverted, and gradually turned back in a manner straight out of a sci-fi horror flick!

      Watching Jasper become corrupted and Centipeetle's re-corruption made me feel sick.

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    • ACWeapons wrote:

      Sammyrashid15 wrote:
      I also can't believe it, that "Pink Diamond" finally gets to be mentioned and heard! (=-D

      Well there goes the "Rose is Pink Diamond" theory. But not sure if Rose was made on Earth.

      That theory pretty much died once we saw BD in The Answer.

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    • Holy smokes, Ruby Squad is back for more! Awesome!

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    • In real life diamonds are difficult gems to cut, let alone, shatter. And Rebecca Sugar and crew do a good job of implementing scientific facts of gemology into the show. I personally don't think Rose Quartz simply shattered Pink Diamond's gem. But I would've never would've guessed Jasper was a member of her Court. I actually felt genuinely sorry for her this episode.

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    • I'll stick to the "Punk Diamond" theory for now: what Rose did was convice her Diamond to rebel, and Pink Diamond was consequently striped of her Homeworld authority.

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    • Two words Smoky Quartz honestly this is now my favourite fusion sorry Stevonnie you come as a close second.

      When i saw her i want into screaming mode.

      I really like the fact Steven and Amethyst are so close (realationship wise) they fused.

      Also might i add Steven is growing so much he fused with another gem something that in alone togther he couldnt suceed in doing.

      Smoky Quartz aside,Jasper saying at the end Pink Diamond which confrims both she and Rose served under Pink Diamond.

      This makes me ask so much questions:What did Pink Diamond think about Rose being on Earth and protecting it?

      Did she even know that?

      If she did the other diamonds know of that?

      If Pink Diamond is dead does that mean Jasper is serving another Diamond instead.

      What if by a small chance Pink Diamond is still alive?

      This episode gets a 10/10.

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    • Dollsea wrote: If Pink Diamond is dead does that mean Jasper is serving another Diamond instead.

      Jasper serves YD, but as we learn in this episode she did/was suppose to serve PD until Rose did whatever she did to her.

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    • Well, I've just watched the episode and I'd like to reiterate a major point stated above; Pink Diamond existed before the events of Earth's colonization, but disappeared (for lack of a better word) some time after this period of time.

      We know from Monster Reunion and Same Old World that the Diamonds used the Corrupting Light; however, one interesting note is that Centipeetle only draws 3 diamonds when explaining to Steven who set off the Corrupting Light. This is further backed up by the fact that the gem who made PD disappear was Rose, a gem from Earth. It wouldn't make much sense for Pink Diamond to escape Earth, set off the Corrupting Light with the other Diamonds, and then promptly go missing due to Rose, who has presumably been on Earth the whole time.

      So, I propose that the reason the Homeworld gems halted their projects on Earth was because Rose did that thing to Pink Diamond, which basically let them know the Crystal Gems were not a force to mess with.

      If Pink Diamond's disappearance is truly the reason why Homeworld used the Corrupting Light, it explains the things Jasper says before the big reveal of his diamond being Pink Diamond:

      I've been fighting from the second I broke free of the Earth's crust because of what you did to my colony, because of what you did to my planet, because of what you did to my diamond!


      Remember, this is a Diamond. If the crystal gems can take down one diamond, who's to say they can't take down the other three (again, I'm using the phrase "take down" for lack of a better word, god knows what they did with PD)? That, in turn, leads to the orders to abandon Earth, the Corruption Light's use, and the rest of the story.

      Just my two cents, though.

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    • PBEgaming wrote: Well, I've just watched the episode and I'd like to reiterate a major point stated above; Pink Diamond existed before the events of Earth's colonization, but disappeared (for lack of a better word) some time after this period of time.

      We know from Monster Reunion and Same Old World that the Diamonds used the Corrupting Light; however, one interesting note is that Centipeetle only draws 3 diamonds when explaining to Steven who set off the Corrupting Light. This is further backed up by the fact that the gem who made PD disappear was Rose, a gem from Earth. It wouldn't make much sense for Pink Diamond to escape Earth, set off the Corrupting Light with the other Diamonds, and then promptly go missing due to Rose, who has presumably been on Earth the whole time.

      So, I propose that the reason the Homeworld gems halted their projects on Earth was because Rose did that thing to Pink Diamond, which basically let them know the Crystal Gems were not a force to mess with.

      If Pink Diamond's disappearance is truly the reason why Homeworld used the Corrupting Light, it explains the things Jasper says before the big reveal of his diamond being Pink Diamond:

      I've been fighting from the second I broke free of the Earth's crust because of what you did to my colony, because of what you did to my planet, because of what you did to my diamond!


      Remember, this is a Diamond. If the crystal gems can take down one diamond, who's to say they can't take down the other three (again, I'm using the phrase "take down" for lack of a better word, god knows what they did with PD)? That, in turn, leads to the orders to abandon Earth, the Corruption Light's use, and the rest of the story.

      Just my two cents, though.

      Yeah, this is pretty much what I think happened as well. I wonder what Rose did to PD, it was obviously enough to get rid of her permanently. (I also liked the fact that when Jasper explained how Homeworld viewed gems that weren't what they're suppose to be PD was included into symbol, a bit of foreshadowing into what was revealed 7 mins later).

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    • Here comes Stevethyst.

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    • Well Jasper never said Rose killed Pink Diamond. It is possible Rose convinved Pink Diamond not to colonise the Earth, they got mad and killed her and expelled her from the Diamond authority.

      Maybe what Jasper meant by "what you did to my Diamond" was not killing, but brainwashing her to betray the other Diamond and get killed for it.

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    • ACWeapons wrote:
      Is it possible Pearl and Steven can fuse into something similar to Rainbow Quartz? But Steven's human half would add something to the pre-existing Rainbow Quartz form. So what would that do to the fusion?

      I think it'd be a like a little male since Steven is a male and Pearl is genderless, According to her voice, we would identify her as female.

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    • The gems aren't genderless, they identify as females.

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    • Look at the one of the crystal gems' pages, It will say "Genderless"

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    • Coyotessa wrote:
      Look at the one of the crystal gems' pages, It will say "Genderless"

      True, but they might as well be female. Think about it; say for Steven, all Gems seem to be female both in form and in voice (even if it's not completely obvious). They're essentially a race af near-indestructible, genderless Amazons.

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    • OMG!!!!!!!!!!  I loved Smoky Quartz! 😁  She was probably one of the best parts of the episode! 😁

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    • Dinoboygreen wrote:

      Coyotessa wrote:
      Look at the one of the crystal gems' pages, It will say "Genderless"

      True, but they might as well be female. Think about it; say for Steven, all Gems seem to be female both in form and in voice (even if it's not completely obvious). They're essentially a race af near-indestructible, genderless Amazons.

      They are whatever the artists draws them as. They are sentient alien space rocks that are draw in a feminine manner so the artists can have strong female leads and hint at queer relationships.

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    • Coyotessa wrote: Look at the one of the crystal gems' pages, It will say "Genderless"

      Yeah, it's wrong. Gender is the mental identity, and the pronouns they use imply that they identify as female.

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    • Vanguard771 wrote:

      They are whatever the artists draws them as. They are sentient alien space rocks that are draw in a feminine manner so the artists can have strong female leads and hint at queer relationships.

      I'm gonna stop you right there Tom, the Gems may be physically genderless but the bulk of them identify mentally and sometimes physically as females. 

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    • Coyotessa wrote: Look at the one of the crystal gems' pages, It will say "Genderless"

      They aren't genderless, it they were they wouldn't use female pronouns. The gems are sexless meaning they don't have the biological parts of a male or female, but they have gender as they do identify as a female.

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    • Physical identity is their sex, and we don't even know that they're sexless because we have no idea what's under the hood. We know that they simulate human organs, but we don't know how many or where. Their constructs could be biologically female for all we know.

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    • Zzfunk wrote:
      Well Jasper never said Rose killed Pink Diamond. It is possible Rose convinved Pink Diamond not to colonise the Earth, they got mad and killed her and expelled her from the Diamond authority.

      Maybe what Jasper meant by "what you did to my Diamond" was not killing, but brainwashing her to betray the other Diamond and get killed for it.


      She didn't say Rose killed Pink Diamond. She said Rose did something to Pink Diamond

      Plus, we just saw in Bismuth that Rose didn't shatter gems

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    • Yoshimickster wrote:

      Vanguard771 wrote:

      They are whatever the artists draws them as. They are sentient alien space rocks that are draw in a feminine manner so the artists can have strong female leads and hint at queer relationships.

      I'm gonna stop you right there Tom, the Gems may be physically genderless but the bulk of them identify mentally and sometimes physically as females. 

      The artist are using them as a message that you can be whatever your little heart desires. Their bodies are made of light and can be reshaped to fit their specific needs and wants. Rose, pearl, garnet, and amethyst, could all be more masculine if the artist wanted to draw them that way and it would fit within the boundaries of the show. However rebecca sugar has expressed her personal belief in strong female leads and expressing queer relationships and sexless shape shifters are a clever loop hole.

      Edit: fixing typos :/

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    • Is just me or did Peridot sound off in this episode. Maybe Shelby had a cold or something.

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    • It was worse in Beta. Her voice and dialogue felt forced.

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    • Episode 10/10 Jasper could serve YD but now we see that she miss for the PD and that it really has always been devoted to her, even now wants to destroy Rose because of her connection with the disappearance of PD

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    • It is only when Jasper about to be corrupted, when she the most hugable. From her feeling of rejection to the reveal of Pink Diamond, if she wasn't corrupted, that would be the time they should have hug. I guess when she got poofed, and Amethyst called her sis, that came close.

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    • Sarasvato wrote:
      Holy smokes, Ruby Squad is back for more! Awesome!

      But for how long when Lapis, Garnet and Pearl caught those Rubies easaly, while Steven, Amethyst and Peridot were not around?

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    • Anyone else wish they'd taken time to establish why Lapis gets along with GAP now? She was angry at them for keeping her in that mirror, they were angry at her for... well that part was never really made clear, but from Hit the Diamond onward there doesn't really seem to be any tension between them. Maybe they're all just trying to pretend that stuff didn't happen for Steven's sake, but as we've seen before it doesn't end well when a gem bottles up their emotions. Makes me wonder if we're ever going to see Lapis go off on them or if that issue really is going to be dropped without resolution.

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    • Ed486 wrote:
      Anyone else wish they'd taken time to establish why Lapis gets along with GAP now? She was angry at them for keeping her in that mirror, they were angry at her for... well that part was never really made clear, but from Hit the Diamond onward there doesn't really seem to be any tension between them. Maybe they're all just trying to pretend that stuff didn't happen for Steven's sake, but as we've seen before it doesn't end well when a gem bottles up their emotions. Makes me wonder if we're ever going to see Lapis go off on them or if that issue really is going to be dropped without resolution.


      Well that's character development. They just learned to accept each other

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    • AquaticPanic wrote:
      Ed486 wrote:
      Anyone else wish they'd taken time to establish why Lapis gets along with GAP now? She was angry at them for keeping her in that mirror, they were angry at her for... well that part was never really made clear, but from Hit the Diamond onward there doesn't really seem to be any tension between them. Maybe they're all just trying to pretend that stuff didn't happen for Steven's sake, but as we've seen before it doesn't end well when a gem bottles up their emotions. Makes me wonder if we're ever going to see Lapis go off on them or if that issue really is going to be dropped without resolution.

      Well that's character development. They just learned to accept each other

      Hope they really truely do.

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    • Whenever Amethyst makes her confused "Hunh!?"-sound, it is the most adorable thing ever.


      EDIT: Also, MUSCLE WAIFU NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!111one


      .... here's to hoping Jasper becomes the first Gem they manage to cure from corruption, and it turns her into a friend...

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    • Ed486 wrote:
      Anyone else wish they'd taken time to establish why Lapis gets along with GAP now? She was angry at them for keeping her in that mirror, they were angry at her for... well that part was never really made clear, but from Hit the Diamond onward there doesn't really seem to be any tension between them. Maybe they're all just trying to pretend that stuff didn't happen for Steven's sake, but as we've seen before it doesn't end well when a gem bottles up their emotions. Makes me wonder if we're ever going to see Lapis go off on them or if that issue really is going to be dropped without resolution.

      I don't recall seeing Lapis interacting with GAP, just Steven.

      Have I missed something?

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    • Well, if you recall correctly it was actually Homeworld who trapped Lapis in there; the Crystal Gems just happened upon the mirror. Sure they were at fault for not thinking the Gem powering it was sentient, but that's about it.

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    • Ronaldo Smith wrote:

      Ed486 wrote:
      Anyone else wish they'd taken time to establish why Lapis gets along with GAP now? She was angry at them for keeping her in that mirror, they were angry at her for... well that part was never really made clear, but from Hit the Diamond onward there doesn't really seem to be any tension between them. Maybe they're all just trying to pretend that stuff didn't happen for Steven's sake, but as we've seen before it doesn't end well when a gem bottles up their emotions. Makes me wonder if we're ever going to see Lapis go off on them or if that issue really is going to be dropped without resolution.

      I don't recall seeing Lapis interacting with GAP, just Steven.

      Have I missed something?

      She was pretty chill with them during the baseball episode and they did separate her from Jasper and bring her to the barn to recover in safety without demading her to pay any sort of retribution. I feel like that was an unspoken resolution.

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    • Strong In The Real Way wrote: Well, if you recall correctly it was actually Homeworld who trapped Lapis in there; the Crystal Gems just happened upon the mirror. Sure they were at fault for not thinking the Gem powering it was sentient, but that's about it.

      They knew it was sentient. They were disturbd to learn she was communicating and responded by trying to bubble her.

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    • Ed486 wrote:

      Strong In The Real Way wrote: Well, if you recall correctly it was actually Homeworld who trapped Lapis in there; the Crystal Gems just happened upon the mirror. Sure they were at fault for not thinking the Gem powering it was sentient, but that's about it.

      They knew it was sentient. They were disturbd to learn she was communicating and responded by trying to bubble her.


      Uhm, wat? No, Pearl just kept with all her other Gem gadgets.

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    • Strong In The Real Way wrote:

      Ed486 wrote:

      Strong In The Real Way wrote: Well, if you recall correctly it was actually Homeworld who trapped Lapis in there; the Crystal Gems just happened upon the mirror. Sure they were at fault for not thinking the Gem powering it was sentient, but that's about it.

      They knew it was sentient. They were disturbd to learn she was communicating and responded by trying to bubble her.


      Uhm, wat? No, Pearl just kept with all her other Gem gadgets.

      She knew it was a gem powering an object, and was worried because she was communicating. Rewatch Mirror Gem if you don't believe me. They knew there was a gem in there, and weren't concerned about that until it started talking to Steven. The issue isn't resolved, they owe Lapis an explanation for that.

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    • Ed486 wrote:

      Strong In The Real Way wrote:

      Ed486 wrote:

      Strong In The Real Way wrote: Well, if you recall correctly it was actually Homeworld who trapped Lapis in there; the Crystal Gems just happened upon the mirror. Sure they were at fault for not thinking the Gem powering it was sentient, but that's about it.

      They knew it was sentient. They were disturbd to learn she was communicating and responded by trying to bubble her.

      Uhm, wat? No, Pearl just kept with all her other Gem gadgets.
      She knew it was a gem powering an object, and was worried because she was communicating. Rewatch Mirror Gem if you don't believe me. They knew there was a gem in there, and weren't concerned about that until it started talking to Steven.

      Pearl looked more surprised than anything when she found out the gem in the mirror was sentient

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    • she was surprised Lapis was able to communicate from inside the mirror. They've been doing this for thousands of years, they know what their own species is and they've seen gem-powered objects before. The only thing Pearl didn't know was how powerful Lapis was.

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    • First of all doesn't surprises me that Jasper wasn't Yellow Diamond's warrior, she wasn't too attached to her and as we can see, homeworld gems are hella obsessed with their Diamonds as we can see with Peridot before she were a Crystal gem and with Yellow Diamond's Pearl. As orange is mainly associated with pink was also a prove that she was a Pink Dia's soldier, her hate towards Rose could be also a prove as all we know that Rose was Pink Dia's.

      My theories are actually multiple ones. 1.Pink Diamond was actually the one that wanted to start the rebellion as she saw how beautiful was the Earth and made Rose Quartz with the purpose to be the leader of the rebellion and also gave her a Pearl as assistant, then she shattered herself and made believe that Rose was the culprit to start the rebellion.

      2. Rose somehow corrupted P.D. into Lion and Jasper saw that. Or maybe she shattered her and reconstructed her into Lion, that's how Pearl didn't knew about him.

      3. Pink Diamond reshaped herself as Rose Quartz, she took off her 'Crown' as a Diamond and then started to rebellion also because she saw beauty in the Earth.

      4. Lion and Rose Quartz are actually the two halves of Pink Diamond, one having most of her power (Lion) and the other having her reshaped gem, that could also explain why Rose and Lion has so many unique powers, in this theory was also affected by the beauty of the world.

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    • The 3 and 4... No. Just no.

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    • AquaticPanic wrote:
      The 3 and 4... No. Just no.

      I dunno man, Pink Diamond shape-changing not only her body BUT her Gem has...dark implications. LET'S SAY for the sake of argument that Diamonds can shape-change their Gems, and the entire shattering of Pink Diamond was staged, probably some sort of SUPER hologram. From then on Pink Diamond stayed shape-shifted...as a Rose Quartz...for 5000 plus years. Combine THAT with the stress of shape-shifting enabled pregnancy for 9 months and she'd logically break the camel's back.

      Then again, its just a theory-A STEVEN UNIVERSE THEORY! Seriously, its just a theory, please stop yelling at me fanbase.

      BUT EVEN THEN-there are many other outcomes that may not involve Rose having a secret identity, but MAYBE a secret CLONE!

      Well maybe not a clone perse, but a PERFECT Rose Quartz duplicate, designed for the express purpose of impersonating the leader of the rebellion and making Rose not just a rebel but a ZEALOT!

      Either way, just saying there's lots of ways this can go.

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    • I have a few concerns with several of these theories but then again we don't truly know if PD was killed by Rose or did anything for Rose the other Diamonds could have easily manipulated the happenings and then blamed Rose for her death.

      Jasper being corrupted puts a whole new twist on whatever redemption arc she may get becuase as we know Steven still can't heal corrupted, he came close and is was impressive as all get out but...

      We also have Smoky Quartz who I absolutely positivly freaking adore! WHAT A BEAUTIFUL DAY!~ That line reminded me of Frosty the Snowman to be honest.

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    • AquaticPanic wrote: The 3 and 4... No. Just no.

      As I said, they're only theories, we don't know. But it wouldn't be that hard to believe because some important figures as kings and other royal positions, sometimes escaped from their castles to live a normal life, if P.D. wanted to be a normal Quartz soldier then I wouldn't be impressed

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    • Ed486 wrote:
      she was surprised Lapis was able to communicate from inside the mirror. They've been doing this for thousands of years, they know what their own species is and they've seen gem-powered objects before. The only thing Pearl didn't know was how powerful Lapis was.


      But that's because that sort of "slavery" is common within Gem culture. Of course, the Gems used to power objects like batteries are probably created for this purporse and not sentient - that is what surprised Pearl. They thought it was powered by a "battery Gem" much like the Shards used to animate armour (and later clothes and the costume) in "Frybo", and not a full-blown Gem like themselves.

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    • So let's see, so far we have

      Found out about the bubbled gem in Lion's mane

      Got Peridot on our side

      Ended the Malachite arc

      Ended the Cluster arc

      Ended the first chapter of the 'heal Centipeetle' arc in that her mind is now a little more there

      And we've temporarily ended our little Jasper problem

      Next up, we need to find out what Lion is

      It's all coming together, what'll we find out about Lion, was he really just a lion who Rose transformed into the pink coton candy of the jungle? And what'll happen after the 'what is Lion' arc?

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    • Strong In The Real Way wrote:

      Ed486 wrote:
      she was surprised Lapis was able to communicate from inside the mirror. They've been doing this for thousands of years, they know what their own species is and they've seen gem-powered objects before. The only thing Pearl didn't know was how powerful Lapis was.


      But that's because that sort of "slavery" is common within Gem culture. Of course, the Gems used to power objects like batteries are probably created for this purporse and not sentient - that is what surprised Pearl. They thought it was powered by a "battery Gem" much like the Shards used to animate armour (and later clothes and the costume) in "Frybo", and not a full-blown Gem like themselves.

      The idea of "battery gems" has never been states or implied. The shards that granted life to inanimate objects were a soecific thing that Pearl explained thoroughly and were never seen powering gem machinery. They knew there was a gem like them in that mirror and did nothing until it spoke out of turn.

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    • MiniDaggers wrote:
      So...

      Smoky Quartz was nice.

      That sounds like a great name for an adult film star, doesn't it...?

      Also, HIV...?  It looked more like leprosy to me.  Skin lesions, decayed flesh, gangrenous limbs. Word to the wise-- don't be eating during this episode.

      Plus Peri's power over metal doesn't work if she tries too hard.  I think she should get over her animosity towards Pearl and agree to train with her so she can learn to use her newfound ability more effortlessly. 

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    • I like to think one of the reasons Amethyst had empathy for Jasper at the end, finding out that she lost her Diamond, and Amethyst understands that pain, Amethyst never had a Diamond, but the closest she had to that was Rose, so she understands how painfully that much have been for Jasper.

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    • The Iconoclast wrote:

      Plus Peri's power over metal doesn't work if she tries too hard.  I think she should get over her animosity towards Pearl and agree to train with her so she can learn to use her newfound ability more effortlessly. 

      I think the reason Peridot was not able to life that metal bar wasn't that she was trying too hard, more that it was stuck to the ground.

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    • JigglySmash wrote:

      The Iconoclast wrote:

      Plus Peri's power over metal doesn't work if she tries too hard.  I think she should get over her animosity towards Pearl and agree to train with her so she can learn to use her newfound ability more effortlessly. 

      I think the reason Peridot was not able to life that metal bar wasn't that she was trying too hard, more that it was stuck to the ground.

      I agree. We've discovered in the past that many Gems' powers (not weapons, but powers) are controlled by their emotions. For steven it's even stronger since he's part human. Japser does that spinny thingy when she's mad and only tries to use it for destruction, the first time we saw Amythest really use her spinny attack thingy was in these recent episodes, when she was mad as heck for not being strong. Garnet IS a being of LOVE, so that's that. And Pearl lives for her past and present emotions for Rose and Steven and fighs for everything she believes in. Peridot now cares for the Crsystal Gems like any one of them does as well, she wanted to badly protect Steven, so her trying to magneto that pole thingy was something she felt she had to do within her power. When she realised that she wasn't yet powerful enough to shift things like that, she gave up and instead ran face first into danger wihout thinking too much about it. If it weren't dug in by jasper and too strong for her to pull out, I think Peri could have done a lot fo damage with that metal pole, especially since she wanted to help protect Steven and Amythest.

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    • I got soo freaked out when I thought that Steven totally got slashed by Jasper! D-=>

      But thankfully, it was only just his shirt. Woo! o-=I
      Earthlings 237

      Damn it, Jasper! Why do it?! )-=<

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    • As someone pointed out earlier, he probably did get slashed, then instinctively clasped the wound with his healing hand which repaired the damage.

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    • But wouldn't he "heal" his shirt too, like when he healed MC Bear Bear?

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    • You're right, but that's an entirely different problem. Wounded or not, he definitely touched his shirt with his healing hand.

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    • ACWeapons wrote:
      Dinoboygreen wrote:


      Oh, so I'm not the only one interested in the implications of what happened with Smoky Quartz? Think about it, guys; we finally have a Steven Fusion that ISN'T human! This opens a floodgate-ful of possibilities! Personally, I'm banking on Fusions between Steven, Peridot and Lapis!

      Well Stevonnie was a 75% human/gem hybrid. Smoky Quartz was 75% gem. She's still a hybrid. But Peridot and Lapis aren't on a mutual level of emotional to warrant a proper fusion.

      By the way, the three arms on Smoky is a bit...odd, but I got used to it. And why didn't her yoyo have spiked edges? Doesn't Amethyst or Steven have spikes on their weapons?


      No, no, no, no, not that. I'm talking about Peridot or Lapis fusing with Steven. While Peridot/Lapis is likely....it's more of a sitcom-like relationship above all-else. Steven, meanwhile, has emotional connections with both. Perhaps, like with Stevonnie, Steven's fusion powers are fueled by extreme emotions as well; and not in a standard way like with Garnet or Pearl.

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    • Dinoboygreen wrote:
      ACWeapons wrote:
      Dinoboygreen wrote:


      Oh, so I'm not the only one interested in the implications of what happened with Smoky Quartz? Think about it, guys; we finally have a Steven Fusion that ISN'T human! This opens a floodgate-ful of possibilities! Personally, I'm banking on Fusions between Steven, Peridot and Lapis!

      Well Stevonnie was a 75% human/gem hybrid. Smoky Quartz was 75% gem. She's still a hybrid. But Peridot and Lapis aren't on a mutual level of emotional to warrant a proper fusion.

      By the way, the three arms on Smoky is a bit...odd, but I got used to it. And why didn't her yoyo have spiked edges? Doesn't Amethyst or Steven have spikes on their weapons?


      No, no, no, no, not that. I'm talking about Peridot or Lapis fusing with Steven. While Peridot/Lapis is likely....it's more of a sitcom-like relationship above all-else. Steven, meanwhile, has emotional connections with both. Perhaps, like with Stevonnie, Steven's fusion powers are fueled by extreme emotions as well; and not in a standard way like with Garnet or Pearl.

      Steven seems to need to be emotionally in sync with whoever he fuses with, in Stevonnie's case it was when Steven and Connie were having fun, wanted revenge on Kevin, just wanted to enjoy themselves, wanted to save Amethyst while with Amethyst it was when Amethyst accepted Steven's help in fighting Jasper

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Dinoboygreen wrote:
      ACWeapons wrote:
      Dinoboygreen wrote:


      Oh, so I'm not the only one interested in the implications of what happened with Smoky Quartz? Think about it, guys; we finally have a Steven Fusion that ISN'T human! This opens a floodgate-ful of possibilities! Personally, I'm banking on Fusions between Steven, Peridot and Lapis!

      Well Stevonnie was a 75% human/gem hybrid. Smoky Quartz was 75% gem. She's still a hybrid. But Peridot and Lapis aren't on a mutual level of emotional to warrant a proper fusion.
      By the way, the three arms on Smoky is a bit...odd, but I got used to it. And why didn't her yoyo have spiked edges? Doesn't Amethyst or Steven have spikes on their weapons?

      No, no, no, no, not that. I'm talking about Peridot or Lapis fusing with Steven. While Peridot/Lapis is likely....it's more of a sitcom-like relationship above all-else. Steven, meanwhile, has emotional connections with both. Perhaps, like with Stevonnie, Steven's fusion powers are fueled by extreme emotions as well; and not in a standard way like with Garnet or Pearl.
      Steven seems to need to be emotionally in sync with whoever he fuses with, in Stevonnie's case it was when Steven and Connie were having fun, wanted revenge on Kevin, just wanted to enjoy themselves, wanted to save Amethyst while with Amethyst it was when Amethyst accepted Steven's help in fighting Jasper


      See? That's what's I'm talking about! We could potentially be seeing Steven Fusions with all the other allied Gems as well! I'd say Crystal Gems, but Lapis is pretty much her own Gem at this point. She may not be a big fan of Earth, but she'd rather live there than with the totalitarian Diamonds.

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    • Dinoboygreen wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Dinoboygreen wrote:
      Dinoboygreen wrote:


      Oh, so I'm not the only one interested in the implications of what happened with Smoky Quartz? Think about it, guys; we finally have a Steven Fusion that ISN'T human! This opens a floodgate-ful of possibilities! Personally, I'm banking on Fusions between Steven, Peridot and Lapis!

      No, no, no, no, not that. I'm talking about Peridot or Lapis fusing with Steven. While Peridot/Lapis is likely....it's more of a sitcom-like relationship above all-else. Steven, meanwhile, has emotional connections with both. Perhaps, like with Stevonnie, Steven's fusion powers are fueled by extreme emotions as well; and not in a standard way like with Garnet or Pearl.
      Steven seems to need to be emotionally in sync with whoever he fuses with, in Stevonnie's case it was when Steven and Connie were having fun, wanted revenge on Kevin, just wanted to enjoy themselves, wanted to save Amethyst while with Amethyst it was when Amethyst accepted Steven's help in fighting Jasper

      See? That's what's I'm talking about! We could potentially be seeing Steven Fusions with all the other allied Gems as well! I'd say Crystal Gems, but Lapis is pretty much her own Gem at this point. She may not be a big fan of Earth, but she'd rather live there than with the totalitarian Diamonds.

      I wonder what will ultimately get Steven and Garnet, Pearl, Peridot, and Lapis emotionally in synce?

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    • Wait if Steven can fuse with both humans and gems does that mean that if he fuses with Amethyst he can then fuse with Connie?

      Creating a 1 human 1 gem and 1 half human half gem fusion.

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Dinoboygreen wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Dinoboygreen wrote:
      Dinoboygreen wrote:


      Oh, so I'm not the only one interested in the implications of what happened with Smoky Quartz? Think about it, guys; we finally have a Steven Fusion that ISN'T human! This opens a floodgate-ful of possibilities! Personally, I'm banking on Fusions between Steven, Peridot and Lapis!

      No, no, no, no, not that. I'm talking about Peridot or Lapis fusing with Steven. While Peridot/Lapis is likely....it's more of a sitcom-like relationship above all-else. Steven, meanwhile, has emotional connections with both. Perhaps, like with Stevonnie, Steven's fusion powers are fueled by extreme emotions as well; and not in a standard way like with Garnet or Pearl.
      Steven seems to need to be emotionally in sync with whoever he fuses with, in Stevonnie's case it was when Steven and Connie were having fun, wanted revenge on Kevin, just wanted to enjoy themselves, wanted to save Amethyst while with Amethyst it was when Amethyst accepted Steven's help in fighting Jasper

      See? That's what's I'm talking about! We could potentially be seeing Steven Fusions with all the other allied Gems as well! I'd say Crystal Gems, but Lapis is pretty much her own Gem at this point. She may not be a big fan of Earth, but she'd rather live there than with the totalitarian Diamonds.
      I wonder what will ultimately get Steven and Garnet, Pearl, Peridot, and Lapis emotionally in synce?


      Hard to say. Though....this may bring up some...unfortunate implications regarding Pearl.

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    • Dollsea wrote: Wait if Steven can fuse with both humans and gems does that mean that if he fuses with Amethyst he can then fuse with Connie?

      Creating a 1 human 1 gem and 1 half human half gem fusion.

      Yeah, I wanna see a Stevonnie/Amethyst fusion. Would still be a Smokey Quartz, but it'd look different.

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    • Dinoboygreen wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Dinoboygreen wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Dinoboygreen wrote:
      Dinoboygreen wrote:


      Oh, so I'm not the only one interested in the implications of what happened with Smoky Quartz? Think about it, guys; we finally have a Steven Fusion that ISN'T human! This opens a floodgate-ful of possibilities! Personally, I'm banking on Fusions between Steven, Peridot and Lapis!

      No, no, no, no, not that. I'm talking about Peridot or Lapis fusing with Steven. While Peridot/Lapis is likely....it's more of a sitcom-like relationship above all-else. Steven, meanwhile, has emotional connections with both. Perhaps, like with Stevonnie, Steven's fusion powers are fueled by extreme emotions as well; and not in a standard way like with Garnet or Pearl.
      Steven seems to need to be emotionally in sync with whoever he fuses with, in Stevonnie's case it was when Steven and Connie were having fun, wanted revenge on Kevin, just wanted to enjoy themselves, wanted to save Amethyst while with Amethyst it was when Amethyst accepted Steven's help in fighting Jasper

      See? That's what's I'm talking about! We could potentially be seeing Steven Fusions with all the other allied Gems as well! I'd say Crystal Gems, but Lapis is pretty much her own Gem at this point. She may not be a big fan of Earth, but she'd rather live there than with the totalitarian Diamonds.
      I wonder what will ultimately get Steven and Garnet, Pearl, Peridot, and Lapis emotionally in synce?

      Hard to say. Though....this may bring up some...unfortunate implications regarding Pearl.

      It'll probably be hard with Pearl, Peridot and Lapis are both easier to get in sync with while with Garnet...it might be easy with her yet also a little difficult at least concerning what they'd have to talk through

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    • "I wonder what will ultimately get Steven and Garnet, Pearl, Peridot, and Lapis emotionally in sync?"

      The Diamonds threatening/harming someone or something all five care about.  It's a bit telling you left Amy out of the equation... would she have to be sacrificed to get them to join into the Ultimate Fusion?  Would the Breaking Point (or perhaps BP 2.0, if Jasper kept any notes or blueprints and they fell into the wrong hands) be involved?   

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    • The Iconoclast wrote:
      "I wonder what will ultimately get Steven and Garnet, Pearl, Peridot, and Lapis emotionally in sync?"

      The Diamonds threatening/harming someone or something all five care about.  It's a bit telling you left Amy out of the equation... would she have to be sacrificed to get them to join into the Ultimate Fusion?  Would the Breaking Point (or perhaps BP 2.0, if Jasper kept any notes or blueprints and they fell into the wrong hands) be involved?   

      No I mean in individual situations, he's already in sync with Amy so now he has to sync up with Lapis, then Peridot, then Pearl, then Garnet

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    • Random thought: considering the allusions to sex found within the act of Fusion, would that make corruption an Gem-STD?


      Joking aside, here's some real food for though: the show implies that one of the reaons the Crystal Gems won the Rebellion was because their unorthodox (and to Homeworld, heretical/taboo) use of Fusion. Since it also implies that the Corruption was a last-ditch effort/weapon by Homeworld to defeat them... I say it stands to reason it specifically was created to spread via Fusion.

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    • The Diamonds created space AIDS? ...      

      Well, Steven's already pretty friendly with Peridot. You can't live in someone's bathroom for weeks and not feel a certain kinship. Still, she has shown an aversion to fusion in "Too Far". A fusion between our pudgy young hero and our not-so-evil little Dorito would be called...let's see.... Prasiolite.   Well, that's pretty....

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    • Given that Peridot can't shapeshift, I wonder if her saying "I can't do it," after trying to fuse with Garnet in "Log Date 7 15 2" was literal. Maybe she physically can't fuse.

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    • That is possible but that is also what everyone thought about Steven at first, but we will see.

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    • Perhaps all Peridots are intentionally damaged somehow so they can't fuse... in effect, the equivalent of worker bees in a hive, which are infertille females.  Keeps their minds pure, makes them ideal for tech work.

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      • Sobs loudly* The Dorito killed my big buff cheeto puff! X'( (Seriously though why does the crewniverse seem to dislike Jasper so much? I want my bebi back)
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    • Air mongul wrote:

      • Sobs loudly* The Dorito killed my big buff cheeto puff! X'( (Seriously though why does the crewniverse seem to dislike Jasper so much? I want my bebi back)

      Did anyone else read that first part to the melody of "Video Killed the Radio Star"? No, just me? Hmm.

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    • Knowing what I know now, I look at Jasper trying to kill Steven in "Alone At Sea", in a whole new light, because from Jasper's prospective Steven is Rose, in Jasper's mind, Rose again is trying to take something someone away from Jasper. So I can understand why she went crazy at that point.

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    • Jasper didn't understand her own motivations. Now she never will.

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    • Air mongul wrote:
      Seriously though why does the crewniverse seem to dislike Jasper so much?

      hmm I wonder

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    • Well, finally! Jasper is totally all gone. Sayonara, crazy evil quartz warrior! I'm no longer to be so afriad of her, ANYMORE!! Thank you, my favorite funny/cutie dorito haired birthstone gem (Peridot), for the save! X-D

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    • Sammyrashid15 wrote:
      Well, finally! Jasper is totally all gone. Sayonara, crazy evil quartz warrior! I'm no longer to be so afriad of her, ANYMORE!! Thank you, my favorite funny/cutie dorito haired birthstone gem (Peridot), for the save! X-D

      Don't say that Sammy, she's gonna come back really soon now XD

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Sammyrashid15 wrote:
      Well, finally! Jasper is totally all gone. Sayonara, crazy evil quartz warrior! I'm no longer to be so afriad of her, ANYMORE!! Thank you, my favorite funny/cutie dorito haired birthstone gem (Peridot), for the save! X-D
      Don't say that Sammy, she's gonna come back really soon now XD

      But like when and how?? )-:\

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    • Sammyrashid15 wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Sammyrashid15 wrote:
      Well, finally! Jasper is totally all gone. Sayonara, crazy evil quartz warrior! I'm no longer to be so afriad of her, ANYMORE!! Thank you, my favorite funny/cutie dorito haired birthstone gem (Peridot), for the save! X-D
      Don't say that Sammy, she's gonna come back really soon now XD
      But like when and how?? )-:\

      Not sure when but maybe Steven goes into her head and heals her

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Sammyrashid15 wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Sammyrashid15 wrote:
      Well, finally! Jasper is totally all gone. Sayonara, crazy evil quartz warrior! I'm no longer to be so afriad of her, ANYMORE!! Thank you, my favorite funny/cutie dorito haired birthstone gem (Peridot), for the save! X-D
      Don't say that Sammy, she's gonna come back really soon now XD
      But like when and how?? )-:\
      Not sure when but maybe Steven goes into her head and heals her

      But if that'll happen, she'll still might plan to kill Steven. She can not be in her self-control, sometimes or even most of the time.

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    • When I re-watched the part when Jasper said to Steven, when she broke free from the Earth's Crust, I've re-heared what Jasper said, it's because what Rose did to Jasper's own colony, it's because what Rose did to Jasper's planet and because what Rose did to Jasper's Diamond. Steven guessed Yellow Diamond, then Jasper was all like "Wha..." And I was all think "guess that's a "no"." And when she said her diamond and Rose's Diamond was (screamed) Pink Diamond, she came into her full corruption. All of that was pretty scary, all right. )-:`>

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    • So can Steven heal mental illness as easily as physical injuries and sickness?  He astral projected into Lars' head, yes, but he's a fairly normal guy. Don't forget, if he was inside her, Jasper would be in his body, too. Sure, she'd be a little pipsqueak, but she could still cause plenty of trouble. Then there's the risk of being driven mad himself while in that snakepit.

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    • CLODS
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    • Notice it was never confirmed that Lars was in Steven's body at any point.

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    • They did not switch bodies. Steven unwittingly possessed Lars while his actual body was asleep. It was like a prolonged dream of sorts.

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    • What happened was that Steven supressed Lars in his own body. AKA Lars NEVER left his body.

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    • Aye, that is why (to Lars) it seems like he is simply waking up from sleeping when Steven leaves his body.

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    • That was a great episode! The fight between Jasper was awesome and seeing Smokey Quartz was awesome! And she has a yo-yo as her weapon, cool! But, watching Jasper getting corrupted was sad, she doesn't deserve it. I think Jasper got corrupted because she fused with a corrupted gem kind of like how you would get sick when you hang around a sick person. But, after talking to one of friends, I'm starting to think Jasper getting corrupted is a combination of fusing with a corrupted gem and feeling traumatized, hurt, angry, and confused (my friend thinks Jasper got corrupted because she doesn't know why any of her fusion partners want to stay fused with her, she doesn't understand why and she was also feeling traumatized, hurt, angry, and confused, I also said that she was torchered and imprisoned in Malachite at the bottom of the ocean for like a year, so, my friend made a good point and it makes a lot of sense). I also didn't think that a corrupted gem would fuse with a corrupted gem. But, if the gem is emotionally hurt, like Jasper, it makes them more vulnerable to getting corrupted, like how when you're stressed or tired, it's easy to get sick. Also, each time I watch this episode, the more notice that Jasper is in a whole lot of pain while she's getting corrupted, she's heavily breathing and seems like she's out of breath, like as if she were in a lot of pain (people breath heavily and a lot when they're in a lot of pain) and in one scene, they showed one of her eyes with a dilated pupil, I think the dilated pupils indicate just how much pain she's in. Now, I'm starting to understand why fanart of Jasper getting corrupted always depicts her crying, the artists who made that fanart are showing how much pain Jasper's in while she's getting corrupted. But, the fanart of Jasper crying while get corrupted just makes it sadder than it already is. Jasper doesn't deserve to get corrupted.

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      Poor Jasper :(










      I think Jasper will get healed and redeemed in future because there's plenty of evidence that she's gonna get healed and redeemed, she was featured in a few posters standing with Steven and the Crystal Gems and she was featured in the SDCC 2016 Steven Universe Zines from the Crewniverse, so, it's gonna happen at some point. Also, the Crewniverse wouldn't throw Jasper's character away like that, they will never do that. And besides, Matt Burnett did say that she's a complicated character and we're still yet to see that, and how are we gonna learn about Jasper's complicated character if she's corrupted and in a bubble? We can't, so, she has to be uncorrupted and unbubbled for that. So, I think she'll get heal and redeemed in the future.

      And also, Jasper refusing help kind of reminds me of how Lapis was like in her previous appearances, like how she was like in Chille Tid when Steven her that he and the Crystal Gems can help while she's struggling within the unstable fusion of Malachite. She and Jasper refused help when they truly need it. But, Lapis refused help because she trying to protect Steven and Jasper refused help because she believes new Crystal Gems come when they truly are suffering and are in so much pain, they're desperate and it's hard to turn back. And Jasper also refused help because according to Rebecca Sugar's recent interview, she feels she doesn't deserve it. Rebecca Sugar said that Jasper is a character who hates herself, she's not happy with who she is, where she came from, Earth, she hates everything about herself and she acts big and tough to make up for it and asking for help, for her, is sign of weakness and that's why she believes she doesn't deserve it when she truly needs it.

      Also, I think all Jasper needs is love and care, Lapis needed that and now she has friends like Steven and now, Peridot who care about her and supported her, and she got just what she needed, love and care. And Lapis seems like she's getting better overall. I think Jasper needs the same, love and care and I bet her and Lapis didn't realize or know that's all they need to help them overall, but, now Lapis got love and care and she seems happier. I think Jasper needs the same and she probably needs friends who care her and support her, like Lapis. Steven might be the one who will provide Jasper friendship and love and care. She might get better like Lapis.

      I think if Jasper gets redeemed, she'll be like Lapis, she won't be sided with anyone and she will get a little better but will still kind of hate herself but will be probably a little happier.

      Also, overall, that was an amazing episode and I love it and Jasper getting corrupted was sad.

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