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  • Seeing that my edit in The Great Diamond Authority page has been undone, I'd like to explain my point here.

    In my opinion, PD's shattering isn't what started the war. A short explaination of why, is already in PD's section of the same page (which is contraddictory), but I'd like to give my reasons in depth here.

    1. Jasper was made halfway through the war: as shown in "Beta", Jasper was made in the Beta Kindergarten, which was made halfway through the war because Homeworld needed new soldiers. This point is reinforced by what Eyeball said in "Back to the Moon": Jasper came out of the ground with her helmet on (and flexing, apparently) and defeated 80 CGs before sundown. How could she have done that if the war hadn't started yet?
    1. Pink Diamond was shattered after Japer was born: why would Jasper be so in pain thinking of her diamond if she wasn't around at the time of her death and was never assigned to her? Also, Eyeball didn't object when "Jasper" (Amethyst) said that she was "around" at the time of her shattering.

    Thus, by transitive property, Pink Diamond was shattered after the beginning of the war, maybe even towards the end of it.

    The fact that she was shattered after the building of the Beta Kindergarten (made for the war), also confirms that she was shattered when the Rebellion had already escalated to a full war.

    What do you think?

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    • Maybe it was the shattering of Pink Diamond that brought the war to a close, after PD was shattered the other Diamonds feared the rebellion growing beyond Earth and towards them and ordered the Cluster to be planted, recalled all troupes, then set off the weapon that corrupted the remaining Gems on Earth.

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    • This is plausible. But rose could have done it a few days after jasper was made or the end of the war. But we do know that rose isn't pink diamond now and that she isn't as morale perfect as we thought (I always knew she was a killer)

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    • Shamira Guardian wrote:
      Maybe it was the shattering of Pink Diamond that brought the war to a close, after PD was shattered the other Diamonds feared the rebellion growing beyond Earth and towards them and ordered the Cluster to be planted, recalled all troupes, then set off the weapon that corrupted the remaining Gems on Earth.

      If the shattering of Pink Diamond really ended the war then why was Blue Diamond sent to replace her as head of the earth colony?

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    • We don't know why Blue Diamond came, it may have been to help Pink Diamond end the Rebellion as it was starting. Also, the situation in "The Answer"'s flashback seems a bit too calm to be set after Pink Diamond's shattering: the Crystal Gems seem to be composed only by Rose and Pearl, so it is impossible for Jasper to have killed 80 on her birthday.

      EDIT: My point is, according to the information we have, PD should have been shattered at least halfway through the war, but nothing excludes her being shattered towatds the end.

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    • It's possible that jasper did it because her kindergarten was made halfway through the war and she was probably not made on the first day.

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    • What?

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    • I'm saying it's possible jasper killed 80 CGs.

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    • I think it's possible too, but what I was saying is that "The Answer"'s flashback can't be set after PD's shattering because it would have to be set after Jasper's birth (and CG massacre) too, which is impossible if the CGs were only 2

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    • I know.

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    • The Prime and Beta (and possibly more) kindergartens were made first when the colonization for earth started.

      Earth was Pink Diamond's colony. Everything was going smoothly at first. Kindergartens were incubating their first soldiers; Big, warm pieces of quartz -- like this mountain over here -- were being created from its rich minerals with great success. Then -- bam! One of Pink Diamond's very own quartz soldiers started a rebellion and took it too far.

      —Ruby (eyeball)

      Note that she said Kindergartens meaning more than one, and considering beta denotes second, it was already erected before Rose rebelled. The rush job Peridot meant was how the production for new soldiers in the beta kindergarten was increased to the point where it was already for quantity more than quality, rather than it being newly made.

      The rebellion started with Rose rebelling (ofc). It wasn't a war just yet. It was just some of PD's court rebelling. Her being shattered solidified the notion of it being a war for the entirety of Homeworld.

      But you could also be right. Centipeetle, being one of the first Gems to land on Earth and build the first structures, probably belonged to PD's court while Lapis belonged to BD's court. Both of them, the two gems that belonged to two different courts, showed the same scene (corrupting light).

      But it could also be that, after PD was shattered, BD took over while PD's court was still battling the rebels and BD's court aiding them. Hence why there were two Gem courts on Earth during the war.

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    • Jaspers maturation time in the ground needs to be considered too, a gem may be considered to 'belong' to a diamond if that diamond initiated their creation even if the diamond is shattered before the gem emerge, just as your father is still your father even if he dies before your born and you never meet him.  considering that this is a sexless society this kind of assosiation with a diamond could be their societies equivilent of paternity.


      note also that blue diamonds pressense on earth in the answer if it occours after the death of PD is really very reckless, two crystal gems alone jump right into her court, dispatch her guards effortlessly and if their objective were to shatter blue diamond as well it that had been their objective.  i would really have expected diamonds to command their forces from afar if the earth possessed such personal danger for them.

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    • ImpalerWrG wrote:
      Jaspers maturation time in the ground needs to be considered too, a gem may be considered to 'belong' to a diamond if that diamond initiated their creation even if the diamond is shattered before the gem emerge, just as your father is still your father even if he dies before your born and you never meet him.  considering that this is a sexless society this kind of assosiation with a diamond could be their societies equivilent of paternity.

      It would be rather pointless to have jasper emerge as a pink diamond gem and then be assigned to yellow diamond right after.

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