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  • everyone knows that any gem can become corrupted and monster right?

    ok

    Reformed says that a monster is on temple

    where no monster entered on series

    and pearl is not there

    well, after Rose Scabbard happens

    Amethyst and Pearl problably fighted soo much and Pearl got crazy/traumatized and

    boop

    corrupted pearl

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    • A monster could easily be set loose inside the temple, if a bubble were to pop inside the burning room. Also, remember the events of Secret Team?

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    • Judgekoo wrote:
      A monster could easily be set loose inside the temple, if a bubble were to pop inside the burning room. Also, remember the events of Secret Team?


      because Pearl and Amethyst destroyed the bubble.

      also, who could explode the bubbles? gems items with no life cant do that

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    • CalimTheCrystalGem wrote:
      Judgekoo wrote:
      A monster could easily be set loose inside the temple, if a bubble were to pop inside the burning room. Also, remember the events of Secret Team?

      because Pearl and Amethyst destroyed the bubble.

      also, who could explode the bubbles? gems items with no life cant do that

      The Desert Glass could make Pillars and Lapis Mirror showed steven some stuff

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    • Twilightsparkle7625 wrote:
      CalimTheCrystalGem wrote:
      Judgekoo wrote:
      A monster could easily be set loose inside the temple, if a bubble were to pop inside the burning room. Also, remember the events of Secret Team?

      because Pearl and Amethyst destroyed the bubble.

      also, who could explode the bubbles? gems items with no life cant do that

      The Desert Glass could make Pillars and Lapis Mirror showed steven some stuff

      lapis mirror - just show useless GIFs

      desert glass - just do something when tounch sand

      both cant espace from a bubble.

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    • A bubble poping inside the temple is implausible not impossible.

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    • Judgekoo wrote:
      A bubble poping inside the temple is implausible not impossible.

      what could explode the bubble?

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    • An earthquake or some sort of event might cause debris to fall on and break a gem bubble, depending on how strong they're supposed to be.

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    • CalimTheCrystalGem wrote:
      Judgekoo wrote:
      A bubble poping inside the temple is implausible not impossible.
      what could explode the bubble?

      A powerful enough gem? Outside factors pop it? I mean if Steven can pop a bubble with little force and accidentally fall onto the centipeetle's bubble and popping it as well, it really shouldn't be that hard popping a bubble.

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    • Aerostar wrote:
      An earthquake or some sort of event might cause debris to fall on and break a gem bubble, depending on how strong they're supposed to be.


      they are floating

      also, they should explode after arcade mania's monster earthquakes.

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    • Judgekoo wrote:
      CalimTheCrystalGem wrote:
      Judgekoo wrote:
      A bubble poping inside the temple is implausible not impossible.
      what could explode the bubble?
      A powerful enough gem? Outside factors pop it? I mean if Steven can pop a bubble with little force and accidentally fall onto the centipeetle's bubble and popping it as well, it really shouldn't be that hard popping a bubble.

      I continue dont think that something will pop a bubble. outside

      the temple is 100% protect by the crystal gems.

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    • It would be interesting to see how a gem gets corrupted, and I do suppose one of the show's gems being corrupted would be or best chance to see the process. Idk maybe it is Pearl, wasn't there a talk of GAP ending going on the wiki? (I'm not really sure i'm kind of new to this wiki)

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    • CalimTheCrystalGem wrote:

      Aerostar wrote:
      An earthquake or some sort of event might cause debris to fall on and break a gem bubble, depending on how strong they're supposed to be.


      they are floating

      also, they should explode after arcade mania's monster earthquakes.

      You mean bubble buddies? Cuz thats how steven met connie, by a large earthquake

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    • Sprattiehunt wrote:

      CalimTheCrystalGem wrote:

      Aerostar wrote:
      An earthquake or some sort of event might cause debris to fall on and break a gem bubble, depending on how strong they're supposed to be.

      they are floating

      also, they should explode after arcade mania's monster earthquakes.

      You mean bubble buddies? Cuz thats how steven met connie, by a large earthquake

      both episodes

      both have earhquakes from that blue things.

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    • I think the best thing to assume is either Pearl is off doing derp-who knows what, she IS the monster (But unlikely because then she wouldn't be in the rest of the episodes unless she was healed, which would break the show's plot, or maybe sacrafice to heal?), or that the monster is either something close or personal to Pearl.  Like, the first monster she defeated on her own, or something with Rose and her included.


       


      It's possible to say that it could even be the first gem Pearl defeated.  We don't know whether or not she is REALLY left out of the mission, or if it's just a lazy description.  Until we get more hints, I think we're fine.

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    • Kind of strange that they where friends with a monster this whole time if this is true and would act like nothing all the time...

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    • Well, Considering the episode title is "Reformed", I wouldn't think it would be Pearl, because if it were, she would need to have something hppen to her, corrupt, and reform all in an 11 minute timespace. I'd like to think that it's just a really vague synopsis, or that Pearl may just be off on a solo mission (or something of the sort). It would need to be a monster that they'd be able to reform it in that short amount of time (kind of like in Monster Buddies). There was a theory jumpingaround thatit would be the Centipedle, but that seems kind of unlikely to me

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    • Jasper did call Pearl "defective", and there's probably some meaning behind that. Someone on TV Tropes pointed out that maybe Rose couldn't figure out how to heal corruption, but could've found some way to keep it at bay. If it is Pearl, she'll almost certainly be reformed by the end of the episode, but I doubt it will be easy. Steven's powers are activated by emotion, and since he loves Pearl, maybe his powers would be amplified with that.

      Alternately, the episode could be about a Gem monster we've already seen, getting reformed. I mean, it's already been suggested that we're going to see more of the Homeworld Gems in the future, and they might try to invade. Garnet, Amethyst, Pearl, and Steven won't be enough to fight against Homeworld forces, so I'd be willing to bet that the show will eventually have Gem monsters get reformed and fight alongside the Crystal Gems.

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    • CalimTheCrystalGem wrote:
      everyone knows that any gem can become corrupted and monster right?

      ok

      Reformed says that a monster is on temple

      where no monster entered on series

      and pearl is not there

      well, after Rose Scabbard happens

      Amethyst and Pearl problably fighted soo much and Pearl got crazy/traumatized and

      boop

      corrupted pearl

      your forgetting one thing: say uncle. she was there..

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    • It's a possibility, however, I'm sure the whose defective thing was just an insult due to her lack of wanton destruction (something Jasper seems to revel in).

      Me, my money's on the Centipeetle mother being the reformee. She came close to it in Monster Buddies and perhaps it was accidentally released again.

      That, or maybe a corrupted Peridot. By the looks of the crashed escape pod, it did a number on her. Maybe she became corrupted due to extreme injury and, in her cracked state, became a monster. Again, I wouldn't put it past the writers.

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    • Foxina 2.0 wrote:
      CalimTheCrystalGem wrote:
      everyone knows that any gem can become corrupted and monster right?

      ok

      Reformed says that a monster is on temple

      where no monster entered on series

      and pearl is not there

      well, after Rose Scabbard happens

      Amethyst and Pearl problably fighted soo much and Pearl got crazy/traumatized and

      boop

      corrupted pearl

      your forgetting one thing: say uncle. she was there..

      The stevencrewniverse blog on tumblr has a post saying that 'Say Uncle' was chronologically before 'The Return'. The episode itself, although in a joking way, also says that "none of this is canon."

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    • If this is right - The question is how can gems become corrupted?

      Is it some kind of disease? (So Pearl get this disease.)

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    • UUSER78963 wrote:
      If this is right - The question is how can gems become corrupted?

      Is it some kind of disease? (So Pearl get this disease.)

      In a way. From what I can gather, it's basically what happens when the mind of a Gem becomes so corrupt that it alters their psyche and form from humanoid to animal. Notable examples are virtually every Gem monster ever fought and, nearly so, with cracked Gems like Lapis and Amethyst.

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    • Dinoboygreen wrote:
      UUSER78963 wrote:
      If this is right - The question is how can gems become corrupted?

      Is it some kind of disease? (So Pearl get this disease.)

      In a way. From what I can gather, it's basically what happens when the mind of a Gem becomes so corrupt that it alters their psyche and form from humanoid to animal. Notable examples are virtually every Gem monster ever fought and, nearly so, with cracked Gems like Lapis and Amethyst.

      I don't think that she'll become corrupted. Pearl is smart + they don't know how to hill corrupted gems (Pearl is one of the main characters).

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    • With a name as reformed and the MCs appearing (Without Pearl there to stop them) I'm guessing Sugilite makes another appearance...

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    • She MIGHT in "Reformed".

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    • OK STOP this arguements and lets just wait and see!

      Have PATIENCE everyone.

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    • i already said this in my post

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    • There's simply not enough evidance to support the idea that Pearl will get monster-fied or that one of the monsters inside the temple managed to escape on it's own (because it's impossible since the bubble is the kinda of stasis that keeps the gems frozen while in the gem state and only an outsde force can pop it).

      So the monster is more likely an outside source, which brings me to the point:

      Looking back on Joy Ride episode, isn't anyone bothered by the fact that Peridot just left her escape pod where they found it? Sure it had a dent in it, but other than that it was still functional as Steven proved it. So why would she just abandon the only working piece of Gem homeworld technology behind while stranded on an alien world?

      Not unless something horrible happend to her as result of crash, like breaking her gem. I mean you saw what happend to Amethyst and she only had 1 crack in it, which kept growing as time passed, causeing her physical form to go nuts.

      This was in a matter of a few hours, now imagine what happens with a gem that wasn't repaired within several days, or longer than that even. It wouldn't be impossible that she's been deformed beyond recognition.

      And she knows where the Crystal gem's home is.

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    • Of course Pearl will become a gem monster, she is gay

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      • Jaydom Studios wrote:

        Of course Pearl will become a gem monster, she is gay


          Gems are genderless.

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      • Wait it think i get his logic, If Gay = Attracted to ones own gender, and Gems = Genderless, then they are all the same gender, that gender being none at all. Which would mean that since all gems are the same gender, that any gem that forms a romantic relationship with another must therefore be Gay?

        Either that or he is a troll.

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      • If gems are genderLESS, then technically they can't be gay (attracted to the same gender) because they have no gender.

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      • Jaydom Studios wrote:
        Of course Pearl will become a gem monster, she is gay

        What does Pearl's "suppose (she is not gay)" sexual orientation have to do with her becoming a monster?  That's stupid, no offense.

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      • Probs gonna be Peri, but pearl will likely be off on one of her tiny sidemissions.

        What'd be real ironic is if the episode starts with Pearl stating that she can handle Peridot on her own, leaves to try and find Peridot, and then Peridot comes to the crystal temple as a giant corrupt monster. G and A attack the unrecognizable beast, and either they force Peridot into retreating to her gem, or Steven gets his healing powers back and heals Peri thanks to the power of deus ex machina. Pearl comes back saying she couldn't find Peridot, and then stops midsentence due to seeing Peridot or Steven bubbling Peridot's cracked gem.

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      • This thread is ridiculous. I love it.

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      • Jaydom Studios wrote:
        Of course Pearl will become a gem monster, she is gay


        1 not confirmed

        2 we (gems) are sexless/genderless

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      • What if it's Malachite?

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      • CalimTheCrystalGem wrote:
        Jaydom Studios wrote:
        Of course Pearl will become a gem monster, she is gay

        1 not confirmed

        2 we (gems) are sexless/genderless

        1. It was also not confirmed that Garnet was two gems, but here we are

        2. If all gems are genderless, and they are all attracted to eachother, they are all gay.

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      • I would be kind of dissapointed if it turns out to be pearl and not another gem which they reform.

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      • I highly doubt its pearl. The Centipledle hopefully but might be Lapis and Jasper. Also when Jasper call pearl "lost and defective" I don't think she meant it in the corupted sense but the switching sides meaning of defective. Cause she probably wanted to destroy earth too before Rose interviend. Also this episode has no sneek peak no nothing so its silly to just imply pearl isn't going to be there. Infact there shouldnt even be a charecter list for Reformed cause it hasn't even been talked about yet.

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      • CalimTheCrystalGem wrote:
        Aerostar wrote:
        An earthquake or some sort of event might cause debris to fall on and break a gem bubble, depending on how strong they're supposed to be.

        they are floating

        also, they should explode after arcade mania's monster earthquakes.


        Well, the cool thing about falling objects is that they generally tend to come from above. Floating doesn't matter.

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      • Maybe Malachite or a new gem monster or one somehow got released from her bubble or Centipeetle or Pearl becomes corrupt or Peridot is going crazy and shapeshifted into a monster.

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      • Grabbergirl wrote:
        Maybe Malachite or a new gem monster or one somehow got released from her bubble or Centipeetle or Pearl becomes corrupt or Peridot is going crazy and shapeshifted into a monster.

        Or... Maybe... Maybe it's... It's... PHONE!!!

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      • Biesaga wrote: Or... Maybe... Maybe it's... It's... PHONE!!!

        But Who was Phone???!!!

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      • Or Bismuth!
        SU bismuth

        We forgot all about you!

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      • Grabbergirl wrote:
        Or Bismuth!
        SU bismuth

        We forgot all about you!

        Interesting...

        I think the fans would scream and rage and rave and rant if Pearl becomes corrupt.

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      • Biesaga wrote:
        Grabbergirl wrote:
        Or Bismuth!
        SU bismuth

        We forgot all about you!

        Interesting...

        I think the fans would scream and rage and rave and rant if Pearl becomes corrupt.

        Yes. And why else is Bismuth in Lion's Mane? Another reason could be she's probably Rose's closest friend and she had to regenerate so Rose bubbled her so she would regenerate and worry about the absence of Rose. Or she is a corrupt gem monster that Rose was trying to heal but without success so she saved it for Steven to heal.

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      • Anyone see this thing about Garnet+Pearl fusion?

        Pearl cannot become a monster.


        My soul would die.

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      • Starboy217 wrote:
        Anyone see this thing about Garnet+Pearl fusion?

        Pearl cannot become a monster.


        My soul would die.

        It's fake! I would be sad if Peridot's the monster.

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      • Seriously, Calim, Pearl will be just fine.

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      • This would actually be a REALLY good plot twist, if all of the gems slowly became corrupted into monsters and Steven was the only one who could save them. *grabs popcorn*

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      • I think Pearl will be fine aswell, but fingers crossed for Centipeedle!!

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      • Grabbergirl wrote:
        Maybe Malachite or a new gem monster or one somehow got released from her bubble or Centipeetle or Pearl becomes corrupt or Peridot is going crazy and shapeshifted into a monster.

        Hate to burst your bubble, but Malachite's the fusion of Lapis and *shudder* Jasper, and they're a prisoner in their own fusion deep in the bottom of the ocean. I was banking on Centipeetle being the culprit, but now I think Bismuth might be the more likely option.

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      • Jaydom Studios wrote:
        This would actually be a REALLY good plot twist, if all of the gems slowly became corrupted into monsters and Steven was the only one who could save them. *grabs popcorn*

        That WOULD be a good plot twist, but I dont think its likely

        but its not like it cant happen

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      • Pearl is starting to become one of my favorite characters, I hope she doesn't become a monster.

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      • Grabbergirl wrote:
        Starboy217 wrote:
        Anyone see this thing about Garnet+Pearl fusion?

        Pearl cannot become a monster.


        My soul would die.

        It's fake! I would be sad if Peridot's the monster.

        Really? aw, I was looking forward to it. (The fusion)

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      • DYKSU1
        So this is fake?
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      • Starboy217 wrote:
        DYKSU1
        So this is fake?

        Yes it's fake

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      • NO!!!!!!!

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      • If Pearl does become a monster, then I'm guesing the writers have been subtly hinting to us all this time that she'll end up turning into a bird-like monster

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      • Jaydom Studios wrote:
        Of course Pearl will become a gem monster, she is gay
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          Stop coming up with these sick stupid ideas that Pearl is gay when she is not. But  i do think the monster might actually be Pearl.

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        • I have to strongly dissagree with the idea that Pearl will turn to monster she has no reason.

          The only time that a gem turn to monster, and mind you this is my theory, is when the gem's symbolism, when reborn,  conflicts with the personality it was grown with. And I honestly don't see her having a conflict with herself, since she's always been what a pearl symbolises.

          Also, after seeing this twitter comment, I think you guys should start getting the idea who is the monester actually: https://twitter.com/TheParDee/status/588416982380249088

          After all, why would they be holding back on the on the episode titles and their synopsis' AFTER Reformed episode? Because it would be an obvius spoiler.

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        • Hmm, so many possibilities, such little time until you air. Perhaps Pearl could become corrupt, she was purposely left out of the episode description. Then again, there is also a fair chance Peridot may have a chance to shine in the episode as this Gem Monster. Just...so many ways to go. Hmm.....

          • strokes own beard*
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        • Jaka Torkar wrote:
          I have to strongly dissagree with the idea that Pearl will turn to monster she has no reason.

          The only time that a gem turn to monster, and mind you this is my theory, is when the gem's symbolism, when reborn,  conflicts with the personality it was grown with. And I honestly don't see her having a conflict with herself, since she's always been what a pearl symbolises.

          Also, after seeing this twitter comment, I think you guys should start getting the idea who is the monester actually: https://twitter.com/TheParDee/status/588416982380249088

          After all, why would they be holding back on the on the episode titles and their synopsis' AFTER Reformed episode? Because it would be an obvius spoiler.

          While your theory on how a Gem turns into a monster sounds possible, I'm still not sure if DeeDee's tweet implies that the monster is going to be Peridot partly because Pearl still isn't featured at all in this episode yet, & partly because it takes a while for studios to develop an episode, so this may be her pointing out to something else in the near future

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        • Pencil Sketcher wrote:
          Jaka Torkar wrote:
          I have to strongly dissagree with the idea that Pearl will turn to monster she has no reason.

          The only time that a gem turn to monster, and mind you this is my theory, is when the gem's symbolism, when reborn,  conflicts with the personality it was grown with. And I honestly don't see her having a conflict with herself, since she's always been what a pearl symbolises.

          Also, after seeing this twitter comment, I think you guys should start getting the idea who is the monester actually: https://twitter.com/TheParDee/status/588416982380249088

          After all, why would they be holding back on the on the episode titles and their synopsis' AFTER Reformed episode? Because it would be an obvius spoiler.

          While your theory on how a Gem turns into a monster sounds possible, I'm still not sure if DeeDee's tweet implies that the monster is going to be Peridot partly because Pearl still isn't featured at all in this episode yet, & partly because it takes a while for studios to develop an episode, so this may be her pointing out to something else in the near future


          I never implied that the tweet was about the Reformed episode, but rather after it. I mean, why would there be no new episode announcment for so long? Because if the synposis had come out, which would explain what the future episode involves, it would be a big spoiler on what will happen before. If there's anything to gather from the tweet it's that the episode in question will involve Steven, Pearl and Peridot.

          I mean there are several episodes where not all gems are present or hardly involved.

          Also, yesterday was the last episode that was originally part of season 1, so we're finally continuing season 2 next week. That means that the episode takes place after the events of Joy Ride, so the gems know that Peridot is somewhere close and will try to track her down.

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        • The thought of Pearl becoming a corrupted gem is interesting. However, I think she's too devoted to her team. She's done everything for Rose as she said in the episode known as "Rose's Scabbard". I think she's come too far to consider becoming like the other gems. 

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        • Why WOULD Pealr become corrupted in that episode? She goes from completely fine to OMGZ A MONSTEIR GUIZ MUST FITE.

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        • Maybe (maybe don't hate) The Monster (centie, bismuth or whatever) KIDNAPS Pearl.

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        • Foxina 2.0 wrote:
          CalimTheCrystalGem wrote:
          everyone knows that any gem can become corrupted and monster right?

          ok

          Reformed says that a monster is on temple

          where no monster entered on series

          and pearl is not there

          well, after Rose Scabbard happens

          Amethyst and Pearl problably fighted soo much and Pearl got crazy/traumatized and

          boop

          corrupted pearl

          your forgetting one thing: say uncle. she was there..

          Say Uncle is not cannon so it basically never happened.

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        • Jaydom Studios wrote:
          Of course Pearl will become a gem monster, she is gay
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            I think Jaydom is a troll. For the last time Pearl is not gay and she never was.

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          • Answer men wrote:
            Jaydom Studios wrote:
            Of course Pearl will become a gem monster, she is gay
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              I think Jaydom is a troll. For the last time Pearl is not gay and she never was.

              Yes she is

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            • Jaydom Studios wrote:
              Answer men wrote:
              Jaydom Studios wrote:
              Of course Pearl will become a gem monster, she is gay
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                I think Jaydom is a troll. For the last time Pearl is not gay and she never was.
                Yes she is

                No she not. Stop the trolling already.

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              • Honestly, Pearl wouldn't be able to be corrupted 1. Amethyst and Pearl stopped fighting in "On The Run" when the conflict was resolved,when was the last time they argued? 2. If there was a diease or virus that could corrupt a gem, Garnet would know about. 3.A Virus can't corrupt a gem because in "Ocean Gem" the Gems say that the corrupted gems became corrupted when they become dark and cruel, that doesn't exactly sound like Pearl. Pearl is deeply caring and is willing to sacriface herself to protect others. Bubbles can pop easily and keep in mind the Hand-Ship did hit the temple so maybe it caused the monster to get freed. 

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              • Answer men wrote:
                Jaydom Studios wrote:
                Answer men wrote:
                Jaydom Studios wrote:
                Of course Pearl will become a gem monster, she is gay
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                  I think Jaydom is a troll. For the last time Pearl is not gay and she never was.
                  Yes she is
                  No she not. Stop the trolling already.

                  Technically she can't be gay or straight considering gems are just polymorphic sentient rocks but it's pretty obvious that she is at the very least homo-romantic only because she is in love with Rose who is also female-pronouned. Though what that has to do with this thread I don't know.

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                • ThePhilosophunculist wrote:
                  Answer men wrote:
                  Jaydom Studios wrote:
                  Answer men wrote:
                  Jaydom Studios wrote:
                  Of course Pearl will become a gem monster, she is gay
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                    I think Jaydom is a troll. For the last time Pearl is not gay and she never was.
                    Yes she is
                    No she not. Stop the trolling already.
                    Technically she can't be gay or straight considering gems are just polymorphic sentient rocks but it's pretty obvious that she is at the very least homo-romantic only because she is in love with Rose who is also female-pronouned. Though what that has to do with this thread I don't know.

                    She isn't in love with Rose, She just deeply cared about her and idoled her.

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                    • TheMagicalWizard* wrote:

                    Honestly, Pearl wouldn't be able to be corrupted 1. Amethyst and Pearl stopped fighting in "On The Run" when the conflict was resolved,when was the last time they argued? 2. If there was a diease or virus that could corrupt a gem, Garnet would know about. 3.A Virus can't corrupt a gem because in "Ocean Gem" the Gems say that the corrupted gems became corrupted when they become dark and cruel, that doesn't exactly sound like Pearl. Pearl is deeply caring and is willing to sacriface herself to protect others. Bubbles can pop easily and keep in mind the Hand-Ship did hit the temple so maybe it caused the monster to get freed. Well, technically, there was that one scene in Rose's Scabbard before Pearl's little depression spiral in the strawberry fields...but that wasn't so much a fight as it was Amethyst calling Pearl out for being a self-rightous harpy (temporarily, mind you she seems to have calmed down to an extent since then).

                    And while you do raise a good point, I think (and this is based on my own opinion so don't take it as an absolute certainty just yet) it's less a disease and more of a psychological breakdown. See, from what I can gather, a Gem becomes corrupted when their minds alter beyond recognition from their previous selves. Kind of like going insane. But as Steven has proven and I'm sure this episode will prove, it can be reversed, you just need to know how.

                    The only question is who's the lucky Gem? Most (including myself) are banking on the Centipeetle mother since she came the closest to being reversed until her untimely impaling. Others are going the more obscure route of the invisble Gem monster from Island Adventure.

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                  • I think it's that monster

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                  • Grabbergirl wrote:
                    I think it's that monster
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                    It's a possibility, but somehow I can't help but doubt it. It's too early for this one to reform; not enough screentime. Heck, Garnet tossed it away like it was some type of parasite, much less a Gem!

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                  • Dinoboygreen wrote:

                    Grabbergirl wrote:
                    I think it's that monster
                    Love letters (38)

                    It's a possibility, but somehow I can't help but doubt it. It's too early for this one to reform; not enough screentime. Heck, Garnet tossed it away like it was some type of parasite, much less a Gem!

                    Yes it may come back.

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                  • Garnet grabbed it,then punched it back? Whaaat? Hm...maybe it will appear next week.

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                  • I didn't like this;this is could be a spoiler

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                  • This won't happen

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                  • Grabbergirl wrote:

                    Dinoboygreen wrote:

                    Grabbergirl wrote:
                    I think it's that monster
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                    It's a possibility, but somehow I can't help but doubt it. It's too early for this one to reform; not enough screentime. Heck, Garnet tossed it away like it was some type of parasite, much less a Gem!
                    Yes it may come back.

                    Perhaps, but more likely as a Gem parasite as oppose to a monster. Again, if it WAS an actual Gem monster (i.e. a monster of a Gem that was once humanoid like the Big Three), Garnet would have at the very least forced it to retreat into its gem as oppose to tossing it aside like a cockroach. Just saying, there are other alternatives to consider here.

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                  • Love Letters (28)

                    Perhaps this monster got furious at Garnet for beating it up, so then at night, the monster sneaks into the Temple, hunting for Garnet, and the rest... Well, I don't wanna spoil.

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                  • Beta Meta Knight wrote:
                    Love Letters (28)

                    Perhaps this monster got furious at Garnet for beating it up, so then at night, the monster sneaks into the Temple, hunting for Garnet, and the rest... Well, I don't wanna spoil.

                    How could speculation be spoilers?

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                  • Biesaga wrote:
                    Beta Meta Knight wrote:
                    Love Letters (28)
                    Perhaps this monster got furious at Garnet for beating it up, so then at night, the monster sneaks into the Temple, hunting for Garnet, and the rest... Well, I don't wanna spoil.
                    How could speculation be spoilers?

                    I think he might be suggesting that it may be Lapis, but I sincerely doubt that's possible since last time I checked, she didn't have more than two arms, say for when she fused with Jasper, but that's a given with giant fusions.

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                  • Dinoboygreen wrote:
                    Biesaga wrote:
                    Beta Meta Knight wrote:
                    Love Letters (28)
                    Perhaps this monster got furious at Garnet for beating it up, so then at night, the monster sneaks into the Temple, hunting for Garnet, and the rest... Well, I don't wanna spoil.
                    How could speculation be spoilers?
                    I think he might be suggesting that it may be Lapis, but I sincerely doubt that's possible since last time I checked, she didn't have more than two arms, say for when she fused with Jasper, but that's a given with giant fusions.


                    it problably cant be Lapis

                    1) The gemstone from this monster is purple, not blue

                    2) wrong shape.

                    3) if be lapis, would be malachite fused.

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                  • What happens if a corrupt gem somehow fused with another gem? Corrupt or not?

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                  • Biesaga wrote:
                    What happens if a corrupt gem somehow fused with another gem? Corrupt or not?


                    I'm guessing a corrupt gem couldn't do that, since fusion seems to be a conscious choice and a corrupt gem monster doesn't really seem capable of making that choice.

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                  • Kinda simple stupid I know, I don't think that they would take an extreme protagonist like pearl and turn her into a "corupt gem". but then again it could be temporary... IDK

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                  • CalimTheCrystalGem wrote:
                    Dinoboygreen wrote:
                    Biesaga wrote:
                    Beta Meta Knight wrote:
                    Love Letters (28)
                    Perhaps this monster got furious at Garnet for beating it up, so then at night, the monster sneaks into the Temple, hunting for Garnet, and the rest... Well, I don't wanna spoil.
                    How could speculation be spoilers?
                    I think he might be suggesting that it may be Lapis, but I sincerely doubt that's possible since last time I checked, she didn't have more than two arms, say for when she fused with Jasper, but that's a given with giant fusions.

                    it problably cant be Lapis

                    1) The gemstone from this monster is purple, not blue

                    2) wrong shape.

                    3) if be lapis, would be malachite fused.

                    Exactly! I was denying that it was possible! Anyway, since we have no idea what this monster looks like, my guess is it will probably be the invisble Gem monster (yeah, technically we saw it, but we never saw what it really looked like outside of its bulky physique), which would make sense since it's practically invisible. Or it could be those Gem arms that attacked in Secret Team. They had to belong to some kind of Gem!

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                  • SonGokuSSJ9000 wrote:
                    Kinda simple stupid I know, I don't think that they would take an extreme protagonist like pearl and turn her into a "corupt gem". but then again it could be temporary... IDK

                    I agree. For the most part, she's been fairly stable say for a few minor exceptions (And Say Uncle doesn't count since it technically isn't canon.), and even then she calmed down just as quickly. Granted, why Pearl's not there to help catch this Gem is beyond me, but maybe she's on a mission of her own.

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                  • good point!

                    thanks for replying

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                  • Starboy217 wrote:
                    DYKSU1
                    So this is fake?

                    That entire Tumblr is false information.

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                  • As everyone else says, probably not. There have been episodes without Ganet or Amethyst before.

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                  • Considering what I've seen from the previews, I think Amethyst becomes the monster.

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                  • Nobody will become a corrupted monster! Rebecca Sugar wouldn't do that to the little kids!

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                  • Dudes. Logical theory is that Reformed flows into the next two episodes. I'm more inclined to think Peridot than a popped bubble, and her antics leed into ronaldo investigting the temple.

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                  • HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:
                    Nobody will become a corrupted monster! Rebecca Sugar wouldn't do that to the little kids!

                    She made Garnet describe the battle of the Strawberry Field in detail.

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                  • Actually, lets be serious here. Knowing the creators tendency to misleed us with titles, and the episode hits.

                    The episode in question has the gems chasing through the Temple like in the episode Secret Team.

                    Pearl is absent. Clearly "Reformed" means not a character is reformed, but the secret team is reformed, and Pearl is the one being kept out of the loop. For reasons.

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                  • Jaydom Studios wrote:

                    HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:
                    Nobody will become a corrupted monster! Rebecca Sugar wouldn't do that to the little kids!

                    She made Garnet describe the battle of the Strawberry Field in detail.

                    Well, that's different, they don't want kids to think its ok to become a bad guy because their favorite character did!

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                  • HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:

                    Jaydom Studios wrote:

                    HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:
                    Nobody will become a corrupted monster! Rebecca Sugar wouldn't do that to the little kids!
                    She made Garnet describe the battle of the Strawberry Field in detail.
                    Well, that's different, they don't want kids to think its ok to become a bad guy because their favorite character did!

                    Do kids Even Watch Steven Universe? 75% of shows on Cartoon Network Aren't Really approprite for Kids

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                  • Twilightsparkle7625 wrote:
                    HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:

                    Jaydom Studios wrote:


                    HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:
                    Nobody will become a corrupted monster! Rebecca Sugar wouldn't do that to the little kids!
                    She made Garnet describe the battle of the Strawberry Field in detail.
                    Well, that's different, they don't want kids to think its ok to become a bad guy because their favorite character did!
                    Do kids Even Watch Steven Universe? 75% of shows on Cartoon Network Aren't Really approprite for Kids

                    I know, right? How was Clarence even put on television? Sorry

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                  • Well, it's mostly 7-9 year olds...

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                  • Biesaga wrote:
                    Twilightsparkle7625 wrote:
                    HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:

                    Jaydom Studios wrote:


                    HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:
                    Nobody will become a corrupted monster! Rebecca Sugar wouldn't do that to the little kids!
                    She made Garnet describe the battle of the Strawberry Field in detail.
                    Well, that's different, they don't want kids to think its ok to become a bad guy because their favorite character did!
                    Do kids Even Watch Steven Universe? 75% of shows on Cartoon Network Aren't Really approprite for Kids
                    I know, right? How was Clarence even put on television? Sorry

                    Yeah! One The Title Screens Almost Made me Scream

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                  • Biesaga wrote:
                    Twilightsparkle7625 wrote:
                    HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:

                    Jaydom Studios wrote:


                    HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:
                    Nobody will become a corrupted monster! Rebecca Sugar wouldn't do that to the little kids!
                    She made Garnet describe the battle of the Strawberry Field in detail.
                    Well, that's different, they don't want kids to think its ok to become a bad guy because their favorite character did!
                    Do kids Even Watch Steven Universe? 75% of shows on Cartoon Network Aren't Really approprite for Kids
                    I know, right? How was Clarence even put on television? Sorry

                    First off, what are you guys gawking on about with favorite characters becoming evil?

                    Secondly, if kids didn't watch Steven Universe, would it have survived as long as it has? Why? Because unlike most of CN's programming back before 2011, this one's actually GOOD.

                    Thirdly, cut Clarence some slack, will ya? It's no masterpiece, sure, but compared to the likes of, say, Breadwinners or, well, pretty much the majority of Nick's programming nowadays, it really shines! Besides, Tom Kenny's hilarious as Sumo.

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                  • Dinoboygreen wrote:
                    Biesaga wrote:
                    Twilightsparkle7625 wrote:
                    HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:

                    Jaydom Studios wrote:



                    HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:
                    Nobody will become a corrupted monster! Rebecca Sugar wouldn't do that to the little kids!
                    She made Garnet describe the battle of the Strawberry Field in detail.
                    Well, that's different, they don't want kids to think its ok to become a bad guy because their favorite character did!
                    Do kids Even Watch Steven Universe? 75% of shows on Cartoon Network Aren't Really approprite for Kids
                    I know, right? How was Clarence even put on television? Sorry
                    First off, what are you guys gawking on about with favorite characters becoming evil?

                    Secondly, if kids didn't watch Steven Universe, would it have survived as long as it has? Why? Because unlike most of CN's programming back before 2011, this one's actually GOOD.

                    Thirdly, cut Clarence some slack, will ya? It's no masterpiece, sure, but compared to the likes of, say, Breadwinners or, well, pretty much the majority of Nick's programming nowadays, it really shines! Besides, Tom Kenny's hilarious as Sumo.


                    The only good shows on CN right now are Clarence and Adventure Time. I've mostly moved on to Disney XD.

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                  • Jaydom Studios wrote:
                    Dinoboygreen wrote:
                    Biesaga wrote:
                    Twilightsparkle7625 wrote:
                    HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:

                    Jaydom Studios wrote:




                    HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:
                    Nobody will become a corrupted monster! Rebecca Sugar wouldn't do that to the little kids!
                    She made Garnet describe the battle of the Strawberry Field in detail.
                    Well, that's different, they don't want kids to think its ok to become a bad guy because their favorite character did!
                    Do kids Even Watch Steven Universe? 75% of shows on Cartoon Network Aren't Really approprite for Kids
                    I know, right? How was Clarence even put on television? Sorry
                    First off, what are you guys gawking on about with favorite characters becoming evil?

                    Secondly, if kids didn't watch Steven Universe, would it have survived as long as it has? Why? Because unlike most of CN's programming back before 2011, this one's actually GOOD.

                    Thirdly, cut Clarence some slack, will ya? It's no masterpiece, sure, but compared to the likes of, say, Breadwinners or, well, pretty much the majority of Nick's programming nowadays, it really shines! Besides, Tom Kenny's hilarious as Sumo.


                    The only good shows on CN right now are Clarence and Adventure Time. I've mostly moved on to Disney XD.

                    Me too but not so much though...

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                  • Stevengetinthecarriage wrote:
                    Jaydom Studios wrote:
                    Dinoboygreen wrote:
                    Biesaga wrote:
                    Twilightsparkle7625 wrote:
                    HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:

                    Jaydom Studios wrote:




                    HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:
                    Nobody will become a corrupted monster! Rebecca Sugar wouldn't do that to the little kids!
                    She made Garnet describe the battle of the Strawberry Field in detail.
                    Well, that's different, they don't want kids to think its ok to become a bad guy because their favorite character did!
                    Do kids Even Watch Steven Universe? 75% of shows on Cartoon Network Aren't Really approprite for Kids
                    I know, right? How was Clarence even put on television? Sorry
                    First off, what are you guys gawking on about with favorite characters becoming evil?

                    Secondly, if kids didn't watch Steven Universe, would it have survived as long as it has? Why? Because unlike most of CN's programming back before 2011, this one's actually GOOD.

                    Thirdly, cut Clarence some slack, will ya? It's no masterpiece, sure, but compared to the likes of, say, Breadwinners or, well, pretty much the majority of Nick's programming nowadays, it really shines! Besides, Tom Kenny's hilarious as Sumo.


                    The only good shows on CN right now are Clarence and Adventure Time. I've mostly moved on to Disney XD.
                    Me too but not so much though...

                    Out of morbid curiosity, what makes you so sure that's the case? I submit that Steven can stand shoulder to shoulder with Gravity Falls if not higher for its quality.

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                  • Dinoboygreen wrote:
                    Biesaga wrote:
                    Twilightsparkle7625 wrote:
                    HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:

                    Jaydom Studios wrote:



                    HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:
                    Nobody will become a corrupted monster! Rebecca Sugar wouldn't do that to the little kids!
                    She made Garnet describe the battle of the Strawberry Field in detail.
                    Well, that's different, they don't want kids to think its ok to become a bad guy because their favorite character did!
                    Do kids Even Watch Steven Universe? 75% of shows on Cartoon Network Aren't Really approprite for Kids
                    I know, right? How was Clarence even put on television? Sorry
                    First off, what are you guys gawking on about with favorite characters becoming evil?

                    Secondly, if kids didn't watch Steven Universe, would it have survived as long as it has? Why? Because unlike most of CN's programming back before 2011, this one's actually GOOD.

                    Thirdly, cut Clarence some slack, will ya? It's no masterpiece, sure, but compared to the likes of, say, Breadwinners or, well, pretty much the majority of Nick's programming nowadays, it really shines! Besides, Tom Kenny's hilarious as Sumo.

                    I love Clarence, I was just joking around that this obviously kid-friendly show is inappropriate. Sarcasm!

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                  • Biesaga wrote:
                    Dinoboygreen wrote:
                    Biesaga wrote:
                    Twilightsparkle7625 wrote:
                    HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:

                    Jaydom Studios wrote:



                    HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:
                    Nobody will become a corrupted monster! Rebecca Sugar wouldn't do that to the little kids!
                    She made Garnet describe the battle of the Strawberry Field in detail.
                    Well, that's different, they don't want kids to think its ok to become a bad guy because their favorite character did!
                    Do kids Even Watch Steven Universe? 75% of shows on Cartoon Network Aren't Really approprite for Kids
                    I know, right? How was Clarence even put on television? Sorry
                    First off, what are you guys gawking on about with favorite characters becoming evil?

                    Secondly, if kids didn't watch Steven Universe, would it have survived as long as it has? Why? Because unlike most of CN's programming back before 2011, this one's actually GOOD.

                    Thirdly, cut Clarence some slack, will ya? It's no masterpiece, sure, but compared to the likes of, say, Breadwinners or, well, pretty much the majority of Nick's programming nowadays, it really shines! Besides, Tom Kenny's hilarious as Sumo.

                    I love Clarence, I was just joking around that this obviously kid-friendly show is inappropriate. Sarcasm!

                    Sorry, it's kind of hard to tell on here sometimes.

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                  • Twilightsparkle7625 wrote:
                    HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:

                    Jaydom Studios wrote:


                    HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:
                    Nobody will become a corrupted monster! Rebecca Sugar wouldn't do that to the little kids!
                    She made Garnet describe the battle of the Strawberry Field in detail.
                    Well, that's different, they don't want kids to think its ok to become a bad guy because their favorite character did!
                    Do kids Even Watch Steven Universe? 75% of shows on Cartoon Network Aren't Really approprite for Kids

                    Well it was made for kids and airs on a channel for kids.

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                  • BeartholdtFubar wrote:
                    Twilightsparkle7625 wrote:
                    HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:

                    Jaydom Studios wrote:


                    HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:
                    Nobody will become a corrupted monster! Rebecca Sugar wouldn't do that to the little kids!
                    She made Garnet describe the battle of the Strawberry Field in detail.
                    Well, that's different, they don't want kids to think its ok to become a bad guy because their favorite character did!
                    Do kids Even Watch Steven Universe? 75% of shows on Cartoon Network Aren't Really approprite for Kids
                    Well it was made for kids and airs on a channel for kids.

                    My youngest sister watches it and sometimes sees adult swim.........

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                  • Exactaly! Adult swim should have its own channel!

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                  • Thank god they put King of the Hill on first! That one is relatively okay...

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                  • But still, Pearl won't turn into a corrupted monster.

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                  • You used three posts.

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                  • Jaydom Studios wrote:
                    Of course Pearl will become a gem monster, she is gay
                    <

                      and what would that have to do with anything? So what, she mourned over Rose and still is, I don't see how that would turn her into a corrupted monster (seeing as she worked some of the heavy things out with Steven in Rose's Scabbard). 

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                    • Goldfish400 wrote:
                      Jaydom Studios wrote:
                      Of course Pearl will become a gem monster, she is gay
                      <
                        and what would that have to do with anything? So what, she mourned over Rose and still is, I don't see how that would turn her into a corrupted monster (seeing as she worked some of the heavy things out with Steven in Rose's Scabbard). 

                        The most sense I can make out of their comment is that they miight be making a "tragic gay character" joke.... I'm not sure...

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                      • How do you know she will be corrupted?

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                      • I stil think it's gonna be Amethyst

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                      • I think it will be something bubbled that poped

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                      • Good job you did it. :o

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                      • I knew it was too good to be true. Looks like we're gonna have to wait for the first half of the season to be over before we see another Gem that hasn't been seen before that isn't a monster. Still, this Slinker thing does raise a few questions. Most notably, just how did the Slinker find its way into the Temple anyway? True, one could argue it was bubbled up sometime before Season 1, but that begs the question: Why didn't we see thig thing before now? How has it been under the radar all this time? And perhaps most importantly, why does it have such an unhealthy obsession with Amethyst?

                        Think about it. Every time it attacked it always aimed for Amethyst and her only. I hope the writers look into this later on down the line.

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                      • im going to go watch the new one now.

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                      • This episode was awesome. Pearl wasn't corrupted, but it was fun.

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                      • Dinoboygreen wrote:

                        Think about it. Every time it attacked it always aimed for Amethyst and her only. I hope the writers look into this later on down the line.

                        ooh, now you have me theorizing. Some rejevt from the Kindegarten maybe? The corrupted gem of Amethysts sister? A guard sent to hunt down defective gems? (it would have gone after the bubbles if that were true)

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                      • The Slinker only went after Amethyst because she put herself in vulnerable positions (i.e being loud & drawing attention to herself and being by herself).

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                      • ThePhilosophunculist wrote:
                        The Slinker only went after Amethyst because she put herself in vulnerable positions (i.e being loud & drawing attention to herself and being by herself).

                        Still...the fact that it didn't even try to go after Garnet or Steven is puzzling. Granted the Slinker and Garnet MAY have confronted each other prior to this, but that still begs the question: How has it avoided even Garnet's radar for so long? She not only has future vision, but despite almost always going with her gut, is still a great tactician. I sincerely doubt this Audrey 2 knockoff could have been this subtle for this long.

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                      • nevermind Pearl dont died

                        close this thread ^^'

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                      • I was right!!!!

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                      • CalimTheCrystalGem wrote:
                        nevermind Pearl dont died

                        close this thread ^^'

                        In your earlier posts, it sounded like you WANTED Pearl to become corrupt.

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                      • Dinoboygreen wrote: She not only has future vision,

                        I find it strange that everyone treats her future vision as the ultimate dues-ex-mechana when let's be honest. It's future vision.

                        She can't see something she doesn't have a chance of seeing. It seams to require her to activate it to work (ie; it doesn't run constantly in the background) and from what we've seen free will effects these choices perfectly normally meaning whatever she sees may be irrelivent anyhow... Look at Weather Forcast.

                        Steven never actually saw the happy ending version until he actually did it.

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                      • Biesaga wrote:
                        CalimTheCrystalGem wrote:
                        nevermind Pearl dont died

                        close this thread ^^'

                        In your earlier posts, it sounded like you WANTED Pearl to become corrupt.

                        I dont want Pearl to become corrupt.

                        she is one of my favorite gems.

                        also she can be considered Steven's secondary mother.

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                      • CalimTheCrystalGem wrote:
                        Biesaga wrote:
                        CalimTheCrystalGem wrote:
                        nevermind Pearl dont died

                        close this thread ^^'

                        In your earlier posts, it sounded like you WANTED Pearl to become corrupt.
                        I dont want Pearl to become corrupt.

                        she is one of my favorite gems.

                        also she can be considered Steven's secondary mother.

                        I want Pearl to become corrupt. Think about it, if one of the main Gems got badly corrupted, the series would switch over big time to trying to find a way and HEAL that gem.

                        And then soon after, other Gems.

                        It would be sad to see it happen, but good would probably come out of it.

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                      • Toyloli wrote:
                        CalimTheCrystalGem wrote:
                        Biesaga wrote:
                        CalimTheCrystalGem wrote:
                        nevermind Pearl dont died

                        close this thread ^^'

                        In your earlier posts, it sounded like you WANTED Pearl to become corrupt.
                        I dont want Pearl to become corrupt.

                        she is one of my favorite gems.

                        also she can be considered Steven's secondary mother.

                        I want Pearl to become corrupt. Think about it, if one of the main Gems got badly corrupted, the series would switch over big time to trying to find a way and HEAL that gem.

                        And then soon after, other Gems.

                        It would be sad to see it happen, but good would probably come out of it.

                        hmm no

                        this would poison the series

                        poison BADLY.

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                      • Bad poison!

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                      • HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:
                        Bad poison!

                        Delicious.

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                      • Well, poison tastes BAD, but then again that's not my experience.

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                      • CalimTheCrystalGem wrote:
                        Toyloli wrote:
                        CalimTheCrystalGem wrote:
                        Biesaga wrote:
                        CalimTheCrystalGem wrote:
                        nevermind Pearl dont died

                        close this thread ^^'

                        In your earlier posts, it sounded like you WANTED Pearl to become corrupt.
                        I dont want Pearl to become corrupt.
                        she is one of my favorite gems.

                        also she can be considered Steven's secondary mother.

                        I want Pearl to become corrupt. Think about it, if one of the main Gems got badly corrupted, the series would switch over big time to trying to find a way and HEAL that gem.

                        And then soon after, other Gems.

                        It would be sad to see it happen, but good would probably come out of it.

                        hmm no

                        this would poison the series

                        poison BADLY.

                        Someone doesn't understand the Hawksworth effect...

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                      • Jaydom Studios wrote:

                        Someone doesn't understand the Hawksworth effect...

                        I believe I know the effect your talking about, but I've never heard the words "Hawksworth effect" and a quick google search comes up with zilch, so I can't be certain.

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                      • Toyloli wrote:
                        Dinoboygreen wrote: She not only has future vision,
                        I find it strange that everyone treats her future vision as the ultimate dues-ex-mechana when let's be honest. It's future vision.

                        She can't see something she doesn't have a chance of seeing. It seams to require her to activate it to work (ie; it doesn't run constantly in the background) and from what we've seen free will effects these choices perfectly normally meaning whatever she sees may be irrelivent anyhow... Look at Weather Forcast.

                        Steven never actually saw the happy ending version until he actually did it.

                        I think you may have misunderstood my point. See, while yes future vision doesn't grant an absolute picture of the future; heck Garnet herself made that clear in Future Vision. But it would give her the possibility of the Slinker still lurking in the temple, and therefore would give her the motivation to try and find it. It's likely a small percentage, sure, but I think, being Garnet she would at least try to look for it if she saw it as a possibility.

                        And apparently I was right on that point since it was enough for her to track it down into Amethyst's room. The whole point I was trying to make is that there's no way that the Slinker, on its own anyway, could have been this discrete this long without any of the Big Three knowing about it to some capacity. I think there are some closed doors regarding the Slinker that need to be opened.

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                      • Dinoboygreen wrote:
                        Toyloli wrote:
                        Dinoboygreen wrote: She not only has future vision,
                        I find it strange that everyone treats her future vision as the ultimate dues-ex-mechana when let's be honest. It's future vision.

                        She can't see something she doesn't have a chance of seeing. It seams to require her to activate it to work (ie; it doesn't run constantly in the background) and from what we've seen free will effects these choices perfectly normally meaning whatever she sees may be irrelivent anyhow... Look at Weather Forcast.

                        Steven never actually saw the happy ending version until he actually did it.

                        I think you may have misunderstood my point. See, while yes future vision doesn't grant an absolute picture of the future; heck Garnet herself made that clear in Future Vision. But it would give her the possibility of the Slinker still lurking in the temple, and therefore would give her the motivation to try and find it. It's likely a small percentage, sure, but I think, being Garnet she would at least try to look for it if she saw it as a possibility.

                        And apparently I was right on that point since it was enough for her to track it down into Amethyst's room. The whole point I was trying to make is that there's no way that the Slinker, on its own anyway, could have been this discrete this long without any of the Big Three knowing about it to some capacity. I think there are some closed doors regarding the Slinker that need to be opened.

                        Actually Pearl was the first to know of the Slinker's presence/see it so it wasn't discreet at all. They all had prior knowledge & Garnet only acted when she herself saw the creature and followed it into Amethyst's room. You're giving her future vision and the creature too much credit. If there were more significance to the creature that would've been emphasized but it was only a device to have Amethyst retreat into her gem.

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                      • ThePhilosophunculist wrote:
                        Dinoboygreen wrote:
                        Toyloli wrote:
                        Dinoboygreen wrote: She not only has future vision,
                        .....She can't see something she doesn't have a chance of seeing. ....
                        .....  there's no way that the Slinker, on its own anyway, could have been this discrete this long without any of the Big Three knowing .....
                        Actually Pearl was the first to know of the Slinker's presence/see it so it wasn't discreet at all ....

                        Actually rethinking and listening, Dinoboygreen has a big point. I Mean lets think about the look of the room, Pearl's room has the most open space so if anyone were to see it that would be the most likely place. I guess the rooms (Amethyst' especially) offer a lot of places to hide, especially when the thing could tunnel. You're both right. And me Too. Garnet should have assumed "It may exist" but I still don't think she was going to know about it, until she was almost going to meet it (within a day or two). But she should have left the option over and been looking for it.

                        But all things considered, this episode was clearly just an excuse to have Amethyst update her appearance. Either the creators decided after the fact that they didn't like the original designs. Or the studio is being pressured by the toy companies :P

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                      • ThePhilosophunculist wrote:
                        Dinoboygreen wrote:
                        Toyloli wrote:
                        Dinoboygreen wrote: She not only has future vision,
                        I find it strange that everyone treats her future vision as the ultimate dues-ex-mechana when let's be honest. It's future vision.
                        She can't see something she doesn't have a chance of seeing. It seams to require her to activate it to work (ie; it doesn't run constantly in the background) and from what we've seen free will effects these choices perfectly normally meaning whatever she sees may be irrelivent anyhow... Look at Weather Forcast.

                        Steven never actually saw the happy ending version until he actually did it.

                        I think you may have misunderstood my point. See, while yes future vision doesn't grant an absolute picture of the future; heck Garnet herself made that clear in Future Vision. But it would give her the possibility of the Slinker still lurking in the temple, and therefore would give her the motivation to try and find it. It's likely a small percentage, sure, but I think, being Garnet she would at least try to look for it if she saw it as a possibility.

                        And apparently I was right on that point since it was enough for her to track it down into Amethyst's room. The whole point I was trying to make is that there's no way that the Slinker, on its own anyway, could have been this discrete this long without any of the Big Three knowing about it to some capacity. I think there are some closed doors regarding the Slinker that need to be opened.

                        Actually Pearl was the first to know of the Slinker's presence/see it so it wasn't discreet at all. They all had prior knowledge & Garnet only acted when she herself saw the creature and followed it into Amethyst's room. You're giving her future vision and the creature too much credit. If there were more significance to the creature that would've been emphasized but it was only a device to have Amethyst retreat into her gem.

                        Yes, Pearl was the first to SIGHT it, but it wasn't proven until Garnet confirmed. For all they knew it could have just been a figment of an overactive imagination.

                        Really? Because it's what I'm theorizing that explains what most would consider plot holes in other episodes. Like why Garnet puts so much faith in the inexperienced Steven (though who he's descended from is no doubt a factor too, but I digress), or why Garnet always goes with her gut and not strategize much in the grand scheme of things.

                        And no other Gem monster could do that? Just saying, there were alternatives to this Audrey 2 knockoff. Examples? How about a callback to the invisble Gem Monster in Island Adventure? Or how about the haunting Gem in Horror Club? There were several different ways they could have went with this and instead went with one that has an apparent obsession with Amethyst. Then again, maybe in its humanoid form, the Slinker was like Jasper, thinking of certain Gems as weakened ones to be picked off.

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                      • It was probably because Amethyst had to retreat to her gem.

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                      • This thread is just a laugh now.

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                      • Nearhza wrote:
                        This thread is just a laugh now.

                        Which is why we're still enjoying it :)

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                        • laughs*
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                      • You people make some scary theories 0_o

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                      • I think we're being kinda mean to Calim...

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