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  • We seen that WW2 did not happen in this world, what about WW1? Did Central Powers exist? Did UK was that large? Did Russian Empire fell? Did Serbians killed the Austrian archduke or other reason for war?

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    • Possibly although perhaps due to certain events it happened earlier

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    • How do we know WWII didn't happen...?

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    • It says in the Earth page.

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    • But...due to Homeworld unfinished colonisation as you see the Earth has different geographical map. So probabily the history would go different...Example:Scramble for Africa, Russian Empire,Mongol Empire, Colonisation of Americas and stuff like that.

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    • Yeah because we can assume that people had to go pretty far to escape the fighting so people met other people a lot quicker.

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    • Hmmm, If WW1 happened, what 'bout that they used Corrupted Gems as animal-like weapons? You know some participants used dogs to distract the tanks, what if they used in this timeline Corrupted gems?

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    • If WWII didn't happen, it is a safe bet to assume that WWI did not happen as well since they are very much cause and affect.

      I don't see WWI happening with it somehow leading to WWII not happening as well.

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    • WWII happened cause of Polish Corridor and Hitler's brainwashed mind. Hitler possibily did not born.

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    • WWII happened because of the Treaty of Versailles.

      Treaty of Versailles happened because of WWI.

      As I said, if we don't 't have WWII then most certainly you never had WWI to begin with either.

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    • In the Steven Universe universe The Gem War killed a lot of humans, based on what Greg said in The Return. This happened some 5000 years ago, and the war apparently lasted approx. 1000 years. That implies, to me at least, a huge number of humans being killed over that time, and a huge disruption of the early development of human civilization.

      Such an event, that long ago, would have an enormous effect on all of Earth's history. It can be expected that the total human population of the world could be much smaller than is now the case, and the political entities (nations) that we are used to may have never come into existance.

      The question of there being a WWI or WWII would be completely irrelevant. The relevant question would be did France, Germany, or any of the European nations we know ever even come into existance?

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    • I'd like to imagine a Sweden/Scandinavia that the Christians never got to.

      So we'd still be going 100% Viking up in here - albeit a bit more civilized of course. Mix in some Gem involvement in that (like, mayhaps the Valkyries were Gems or something, heh) - after all, Buddy's map showed some major Gem sites up here.

      EDIT:  I thought some more about it. Considering that the settling of the US happened pretty much the same way it did IRL, I'd imagine that the SU's Europe and the rest of the world is not radically different. Because the settlers would have to have come from the "old world" to the "new world" etc. Different only in the same sense the SU US is different, like some Gem influence and whatnot.

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    • Of course WW2 was not in the show because WW2 would be too inappropriate.

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    • QueenCupcake025 wrote:
      Of course WW2 was not in the show because WW2 would be too inappropriate.

      > Inappropriate 

      How it is Inappropriate? 

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    • StrikeGaming7 wrote:
      QueenCupcake025 wrote:
      Of course WW2 was not in the show because WW2 would be too inappropriate.
      > Inappropriate 

      How it is Inappropriate? 

      Because of...certain events. Anyways Disney referenced the whole thing on Girl Meets World so SU would be fine, it simply just didn't happen.

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    • StrikeGaming7 wrote:

      QueenCupcake025 wrote:
      Of course WW2 was not in the show because WW2 would be too inappropriate.

      > Inappropriate 

      How it is Inappropriate? 

      Because of the moustache man

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    • QueenCupcake025 wrote:

      StrikeGaming7 wrote:

      QueenCupcake025 wrote:
      Of course WW2 was not in the show because WW2 would be too inappropriate.
      > Inappropriate 

      How it is Inappropriate? 

      Because of the moustache man

      I explained why it's fine in the post above yours

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      QueenCupcake025 wrote:

      StrikeGaming7 wrote:


      QueenCupcake025 wrote:
      Of course WW2 was not in the show because WW2 would be too inappropriate.
      > Inappropriate 

      How it is Inappropriate? 

      Because of the moustache man
      I explained why it's fine in the post above yours

      Jews getting killed in a very horrible way is the reason why there no WW2 in SU.

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    • Yes.

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    • And they addressed this in Girl Meets World, a Disney show

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    • Which episode?

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    • This episode, please read through the whole thing 

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    • It only says the students learn about cultural things.

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    • Did you read through the whole thing?

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    • What do you mean?

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    • Oh for the love of cheese they haven't written the plot yet! Ok uh go to Farkle Minkus' page and you see the table of contents? Click on Girl Meets The Great Lady of New York may have to scroll either up or down, there should be something about Farkle learning about his relatives.

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    • Where!

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    • Here now you see the table of contents? Scroll down until you see Girl Meets the Great Lady of New York, click on it, it will take you to a section that tells what Farkle learned that episode

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    • I read it. OMG!

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    • See? Just because they don't show it doesn't mean it didn't happen because it'd be too scary for kids, in SU it just didn't happen at all. Now if you'll excuse me I have to see about updating those pages I mean this is just silly, it being a depressing episode is no excuse.

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      See? Just because they don't show it doesn't mean it didn't happen because it'd be too scary for kids, in SU it just didn't happen at all. Now if you'll excuse me I have to see about updating those pages I mean this is just silly, it being a depressing episode is no excuse.

      > Too Scary for kids

      Then how did the cat finger episode air if the episode was scary? 

      Same to the episodes with Cluster gems.

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    • StrikeGaming7 wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      See? Just because they don't show it doesn't mean it didn't happen because it'd be too scary for kids, in SU it just didn't happen at all. Now if you'll excuse me I have to see about updating those pages I mean this is just silly, it being a depressing episode is no excuse.
      > Too Scary for kids

      Then how did the cat finger episode air if the episode was scary? 

      Same to the episodes with Cluster gems.

      That's what I'm saying Strike, also those episodes were not scary, creepy but c'mon I've seen scarier on other cartoons like Courage the Cowardly Dog and its take on abusive relationships

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    • Strong In The Real Way wrote:
      I'd like to imagine a Sweden/Scandinavia that the Christians never got to.

      So we'd still be going 100% Viking up in here - albeit a bit more civilized of course. Mix in some Gem involvement in that (like, mayhaps the Valkyries were Gems or something, heh) - after all, Buddy's map showed some major Gem sites up here.

      EDIT:  I thought some more about it. Considering that the settling of the US happened pretty much the same way it did IRL, I'd imagine that the SU's Europe and the rest of the world is not radically different. Because the settlers would have to have come from the "old world" to the "new world" etc. Different only in the same sense the SU US is different, like some Gem influence and whatnot.

      I've known a lot of Norwegians and a few Swedes, and yeah, 100% Viking (but calmer). :)

      In "Historical Friction" Beach City Delmarva is first discovered/settled by Europeans only 200 years ago, compared to the IRL settling of the area 500 years ago. Looks like a major timeline change to me.

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    • Is there a reason why Halloween and Christmas don't exist in SU, do the crewniverse just hate holidays or something?

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    • Delivers wrote:
      Is there a reason why Halloween and Christmas don't exist in SU, do the crewniverse just hate holidays or something?

      Blame the CG.

      They are the reason why Halloween and Christmas don't exist. 

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    • Ronaldo Smith wrote:
      In the Steven Universe universe The Gem War killed a lot of humans, based on what Greg said in The Return. This happened some 5000 years ago, and the war apparently lasted approx. 1000 years. That implies, to me at least, a huge number of humans being killed over that time, and a huge disruption of the early development of human civilization.

      Such an event, that long ago, would have an enormous effect on all of Earth's history. It can be expected that the total human population of the world could be much smaller than is now the case, and the political entities (nations) that we are used to may have never come into existance.

      The question of there being a WWI or WWII would be completely irrelevant. The relevant question would be did France, Germany, or any of the European nations we know ever even come into existance?

      My question is how is Korea in this universe then?

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    • Gracekim12 wrote:
      My question is how is Korea in this universe then?

      I didn't say nations we know don't exist, just that we don't know if any particular one exists. We do not know if there are one Korea(s) or two in the S.U. timeline, and however many there maybe we do not know if they are independant nations or just provinces of another nation, such as China or Japan (if those exist).

      In other words the whole political structure of S.U. Earth, from cities to world orginizations, could be completely different, with a completely different history, than on our Earth.

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    • What if the Rebellion was WWI in the SU universe and the upcoming battle most of us can agree is coming will be WWII?

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    • Ronaldo Smith wrote:
      Gracekim12 wrote:
      My question is how is Korea in this universe then?
      I didn't say nations we know don't exist, just that we don't know if any particular one exists. We do not know if there are one Korea(s) or two in the S.U. timeline, and however many there maybe we do not know if they are independant nations or just provinces of another nation, such as China or Japan (if those exist).

      In other words the whole political structure of S.U. Earth, from cities to world orginizations, could be completely different, with a completely different history, than on our Earth.

      It's just they called it 'Korea' so did the cold war not happen either?

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    • Ronaldo Smith wrote:
      Strong In The Real Way wrote:
      I'd like to imagine a Sweden/Scandinavia that the Christians never got to.

      So we'd still be going 100% Viking up in here - albeit a bit more civilized of course. Mix in some Gem involvement in that (like, mayhaps the Valkyries were Gems or something, heh) - after all, Buddy's map showed some major Gem sites up here.

      EDIT:  I thought some more about it. Considering that the settling of the US happened pretty much the same way it did IRL, I'd imagine that the SU's Europe and the rest of the world is not radically different. Because the settlers would have to have come from the "old world" to the "new world" etc. Different only in the same sense the SU US is different, like some Gem influence and whatnot.

      I've known a lot of Norwegians and a few Swedes, and yeah, 100% Viking (but calmer). :)

      In "Historical Friction" Beach City Delmarva is first discovered/settled by Europeans only 200 years ago, compared to the IRL settling of the area 500 years ago. Looks like a major timeline change to me.


      That would mean that humanity in SU are about 300 years behind us at the time, I guess? I mean, if they wore the same clothes/rode the same ships we did 500 years ago but only 200 years ago... O_o

      Also, since humanity in 2017 is just as advanced in both settings, it must mean that they suddenly leaped forward 300 years in technology and stuff at one point...!

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    • StrikeGaming7 wrote:
      Delivers wrote:
      Is there a reason why Halloween and Christmas don't exist in SU, do the crewniverse just hate holidays or something?
      Blame the CG.

      They are the reason why Halloween and Christmas don't exist. 

      I meant in a real life out side of the universe sort of way, but you are giving me the mental image of the Crystal Gems crashing the birth of Jesus barn

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    • Roleplaycentral wrote: What if the Rebellion was WWI in the SU universe and the upcoming battle most of us can agree is coming will be WWII?

      Is anyone gonna see my theory?

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    • Roleplaycentral wrote:

      Roleplaycentral wrote: What if the Rebellion was WWI in the SU universe and the upcoming battle most of us can agree is coming will be WWII?

      Is anyone gonna see my theory?


      The Crystal Gem Rebellion took place when humanity were literally cavemen and stuff...

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    • If world war one happened, and Europe seems like the continent that looks most like itself, then the most likely explenation for no WWII would be that world war one ended in a stalemate.

      America seems a lot weaker and less imperialistic in our timeline. Without a globalist Woodrow Wilson the US don't get involved in the war and thus the war ends with no side being able to overhelm the other.

      A stalemate would prevent a second greatt war, as the peoples anger at the massive death can only be directed at their governments.

      Besides the presense of gem remnents all over the planet would make all human nations keenly aware that they are not the greatest beings in the universe, and thus have much less hybris.

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    • Ah but would humanity know that "magic Gem stuff" is actually alien? Consider that humanity in SU-verse have evolved in a world where these things are just as natural a part of the planet as any other. Other than the Crystal Gems themselves (which very few humans know about) there's no evidence as for the exact origins of these things. They might just as well think they are the remnants of an Atlantis-esque anicent human civilization or something.

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    • The gen pool is completly different, so, nothing happens the same

      I guess Cristopher Colombus didn't exist in this earth, that's why CG was like "oh no william dewey, go back equisde", America wasn't discovered yet

      WAIT

      WHAT IF AMERICAN HUMANS WAS WIPPED OFF

      AND I'M TALKING ABOUT NORTH, CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA!

      THAT'S WHY THE GEMS SAID IT WASN'T SAFE!

      makes me wonder if Colombia have humans there :T

      So no mayas, aztecs, incas, native americans, or anything else, just europeans, asians, australians and africans, kinda lame

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    • by the way I see it, I don't think WW1 or WWII happened in this universe, at least not our version of it. if the world wars did happen, it would not be named WW1 or WW2. I belive it will be named somthing like the Transcontinental Wars. This version of the world wars, will be fought for similar reasons but there are multiple differences. Such as in First Transcontinental War, instead of Serbia (or SU version of it) being targeted by Austria-Hungary(or SU Version of it), It was Montenegro (Or SU version of it). or in the Second Transcontinental War, the SU version of Germany began the war when it invaded Czechoslovakia (SU Version) instead of Poland. This is just the least of deviations. Because take note, the world of SU diviated from our own when gems colonized the earth so this means historical background for the transcontinental wars will be dramatically different from our own.

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    • Sigh. As I said, we know there wasn't a WWII. This means it is highly unlikely there was a WWI since the two are cause and effect.

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    • Jolmev wrote:
      The gen pool is completly different, so, nothing happens the same

      I guess Cristopher Colombus didn't exist in this earth, that's why CG was like "oh no william dewey, go back equisde", America wasn't discovered yet

      WAIT

      WHAT IF AMERICAN HUMANS WAS WIPPED OFF

      AND I'M TALKING ABOUT NORTH, CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA!

      THAT'S WHY THE GEMS SAID IT WASN'T SAFE!

      makes me wonder if Colombia have humans there :T

      So no mayas, aztecs, incas, red skins, or anything else, just europeans, asians, australians and africans, kinda lame

      red skin?! er... maybe use  a more polite term please

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    • Gracekim12 wrote:

      Jolmev wrote:
      The gen pool is completly different, so, nothing happens the same

      I guess Cristopher Colombus didn't exist in this earth, that's why CG was like "oh no william dewey, go back equisde", America wasn't discovered yet

      WAIT

      WHAT IF AMERICAN HUMANS WAS WIPPED OFF

      AND I'M TALKING ABOUT NORTH, CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA!

      THAT'S WHY THE GEMS SAID IT WASN'T SAFE!

      makes me wonder if Colombia have humans there :T

      So no mayas, aztecs, incas, red skins, or anything else, just europeans, asians, australians and africans, kinda lame

      red skin?! er... maybe use  a more polite term please

      Native American is the most polite and correct term.

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    • thank you

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    • but it doesn't applies to mayas, aztecs and incas, who are native americans too

      i love that thing with america being just USA (sarcasm)

      EDIT: Nevermind, "piel roja" or red skin is considered offensive, i didn't know that :v

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    • I never understood the term redskin. Native (North) Americans were never red - if anyone was going to have red skin at the time it was the white Europeans who probably got super sunburnt in the desert (I know I would've, LOL).

      But these things never made sense - black people are not actually black either. Nor are white people really white. Nor are asians yellow. Most asians look like white people with super-adorable eyes and faces. SMH....

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    • Ok, sorry for the racism, i truly believe red skin was the name of their tribe, like mayans and etc

      It was my fault for being ignorant, i'm sorry :c

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    • Strong In The Real Way wrote: I never understood the term redskin. Native (North) Americans were never red - if anyone was going to have red skin at the time it was the white Europeans who probably got super sunburnt in the desert (I know I would've, LOL).

      But these things never made sense - black people are not actually black either. Nor are white people really white. Nor are asians yellow. Most asians look like white people with super-adorable eyes and faces. SMH....

      I know right?! Racism makes no sense.

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    • sorry again?

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    • btw i edited my original comment

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    • Jolmev wrote: sorry again?

      No, I'm not freaking out on you, just mad with the world for that crazy stuff.

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    • Ok, nice, yeah, the world is mad :c

      I would say "there's no racism in Steven's earth yay :DD" but they are still humans, so, they have to be racist in some way, Andy DeMayo could be an example :T

      Maybe Beach City people are people of culture, idk :v

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    • Jolmev wrote: Ok, nice, yeah, the world is mad :c

      I would say "there's no racism in Steven's earth yay :DD" but they are still humans, so, they have to be racist in some way, Andy DeMayo could be an example :T

      Maybe Beach City people are people of culture, idk :v

      Well, Kevin and possibly Marty are the worst examples of humanity we've seen on Steven's Earth so far.

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    • MizukageMoonstone wrote:

      Jolmev wrote: Ok, nice, yeah, the world is mad :c

      I would say "there's no racism in Steven's earth yay :DD" but they are still humans, so, they have to be racist in some way, Andy DeMayo could be an example :T

      Maybe Beach City people are people of culture, idk :v

      Well, Kevin and possibly Marty are the worst examples of humanity we've seen on Steven's Earth so far.

      I agree :v

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    • Jolmev wrote:
      Ok, nice, yeah, the world is mad :c

      I would say "there's no racism in Steven's earth yay :DD" but they are still humans, so, they have to be racist in some way, Andy DeMayo could be an example :T

      Maybe Beach City people are people of culture, idk :v


      Uncle Andy wasn't even racist, nor a bad person. He didn't actually hold those views because he believed in them. All his issues were rooted in change having always been for the worse for him, never for the better. So he gradually grew to see all changes as something negative.

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    • Well, he called them hippies, and whatever, i'm not caring anymore, too much offtopic

      So no one is mad because in Steven's earth the human life in America (as a whole continent) was probably ripped off by the gem race?

      I mean, the crystal gems said "this is no place for humans" to William Dewey and Beach City is in "USA"

      If there are no native americans and other native americans who are not called native americas but they are from america aswell but not america, the gen pool is way TOO different, and because this is not the only place the gems affected, there's no way WWI or WWII or even the egyptians we no occured in this parallel earth

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    • Different people, different events in history

      Basically WWI but because during the medieval age corn was delicious to Greeks but not to French people, you can imagine a completly different situation and there's no problem, but you can't imagine the same or something to loyal to what we have here

      Yes, Steven's earth have electricty and stuff, but completly different people made it

      BUT! Rebecca Sugar have her no-confirmed doppleganger here: Samantha Pepper (Crying breakfast friends!)

      So maybe some people are completly different while some others have dopplegangers in that earth yay

      But still, completly different history events, egyptians happen 3000 years ago, the gem invasion in Steven's earth happen 5750 years ago, so, no

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    • Jolmev wrote:

      So no one is mad because in Steven's earth the human life in America (as a whole continent) was probably ripped off by the gem race?


      They did not mean to imply that the entire Americas belongs to the Gems.

      They just didn't want any humans near the Crystal Temple, obviously.

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    • Strong In The Real Way wrote:
      Jolmev wrote:
      So no one is mad because in Steven's earth the human life in America (as a whole continent) was probably ripped off by the gem race?

      They did not mean to imply that the entire Americas belongs to the Gems.

      They just didn't want any humans near the Crystal Temple, obviously.

      Because William Dewey was going to land in the place where is Beach City, and not in a completly different place, obviously

      But yeah, not sure if William Dewey discover the whole land or just Beach City, if it was just Beach City, then why Beach City is not that important?

      There's still a backstory hole, Do we know where is William Dewey from? Who discover the whole continent if it wasn't him?

      Gen pool is completly different, so we can say a cow was floating in a piece of wood and landed in Argentina, discovering America as a whole and can still be true or false, i guess you don't want to discuss the backstory hole of the discovery of America in Steven's earth so i'm letting the cow in argentina thing as my headcannon

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    • I'm not sure what you're trying to get to anymore, lol...

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    • william dewey wasn't heading to beach city territory, the misterious fusion put them safe in beach city teritory later

      i'm guessing humans was ripped off from america in general (or moved out from there), then the europeans discovered it (william dewey or more people?)

      that makes the gen pool different, so, in the end, no WWI, because the same people is not there to cause it, at least no in america

      that's the whole thing i wanted to say with my first comment, that only by seeing america, america's population is different in Steven's earth, so no WWI

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    • Jolmev wrote:
      william dewey wasn't heading to beach city territory, the misterious fusion put them safe in beach city teritory later

      i'm guessing humans was ripped off from america in general (or moved out from there), then the europeans discovered it (william dewey or more people?)

      that makes the gen pool different, so, in the end, no WWI, because the same people is not there to cause it, at least no in america

      that's the whole thing i wanted to say with my first comment, that only by seeing america, america's population is different in Steven's earth, so no WWI

      WW1 was an almost purely European event, with the U.S. only becoming involved near the very end. Changes in U.S. history would not significantly change the vast majority of WW1, though it might change who won in the end.

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    • Ronaldo Smith wrote:
      Jolmev wrote:
      william dewey wasn't heading to beach city territory, the misterious fusion put them safe in beach city teritory later

      i'm guessing humans was ripped off from america in general (or moved out from there), then the europeans discovered it (william dewey or more people?)

      that makes the gen pool different, so, in the end, no WWI, because the same people is not there to cause it, at least no in america

      that's the whole thing i wanted to say with my first comment, that only by seeing america, america's population is different in Steven's earth, so no WWI

      WW1 was an almost purely European event, with the U.S. only becoming involved near the very end. Changes in U.S. history would not significantly change the vast majority of WW1, though it might change who won in the end.

      well, you are right, but, i guess the other european countries could be completly differents as well, so Steven's earth have wars but for completly different reasons and in completly different time because gen pool

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    • Gene pool. You keep using that term. I don't think it means what you think it means.

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    • Gene pool: the stock of different genes in an interbreeding population.The life of the mind, the life of the genome and the gene pool are characterised alike in this way by change, and change which feeds on the random.

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    • It refers to the genetic variability of a population (in this case, the entire planet (not only humans))

      If Steven's earth is our earth, then, the arrival of pink diamond and the kidnapping and killing of some humans in the process of making the colony changed drastically the gene pool, so, with different people happens completly different stuff

      Basically, in this parallel universe the gem race killed one of your ancestors OR one of your ancestors had children with someone completly different

      Is VERY unlikely to have Iosif Stalin, George Washington, Cristopher Colombus, Leonardo DaVinci, etc on this earth, specially with the american ones since the show kinda makes William Dewey its discoverer (and the possibility of humans not living in america until its discovering (mayas, incas, etc, died or runned away, wild theory))

      We actually don't have any info about this, that's why i propose the randomness, you want to not have Hitler because you guys love the Godwin law, but mine is more simple, everything is COMPLETLY DIFFERENT, no vikings, no egyptians, not anything, egyptians happen 3000 years ago, gem race in this earth invaded 6000 ago, earth was drastically terraformed AND some humans were kidnapped or killed

      What you think gene pool means? (i may still getting the concept wrong, if you know the correct word for "people today have these genes, but if you change something in the past, that people will not be the same but completly different people because you changed the genes who where available AND the way they would be there in that time" i will thank you)

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    • i proposed in another theory steven's earth being a completly different earth from ours, and we being the real enemies of the diamonds or the creators of the gem race, and that they terraformed that planet to look like ours, to know how to destroy us, BUT!, the humans of that planet (steven's planet) were there already, so they just took the oportunity

      or, they terraform every colony similar to our planet, for the same reason, to destroy us

      I don't really think the show goes this way, it's just a wildier theory

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    • Okay i completly forgot the bc - ac stuff,

      gem race invading -> 5750 years ago, our egyptians -> 5000 years ago                        

      But still a lot

      hope someone gives his/her opinion about this and not another grammar/context error :T, if not, i'm done with this

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    • Again, you don't seem to understand genetics in this case. The genepool of SU Earth would not at all be vastly different than ours. Europeans would still be of European descent etc. I don't know where/why you got that crazy idea.

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    • Strong In The Real Way wrote:
      Again, you don't seem to understand genetics in this case. The genepool of SU Earth would not at all be vastly different than ours. Europeans would still be of European descent etc. I don't know where/why you got that crazy idea.

      Simply, an idea that come to my mind, ok, yes, they are europeans, BUT, they are not the same europeans, they are completly different people, with the pass of the time the change is more notable

      "Basically, in this parallel universe the gem race killed one of Hitler ancestors OR one of Hitler ancestors had children with someone completly different"

      I guess Hitler is a better example for everything

      I'm giving up on explaining my theory

      But there's also another point of view:

      "There’s a theory in quantum physics that time is immutable. It’s like a river – you can throw a pebble in and create a ripple, but the current always corrects itself. No matter what you do the river just keeps flowing in the same direction . . ." - Hank McCoy (Beast), X-men Days of future past

      So, Steven's earth is similar to our earth because by changing something in the past you are affecting the future, yea, but time will correct it's course and lead to what it should be

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    • I'm not saying there's time travel involved here or something, i'm saying that every version of earth will try to eventually "reform" into ours, because ours is like "how earth should be without changes",

      So, the gen pool (yes the gen pool) changes by a cataclysm like a natural disaster, a zombie infection or an alien invasion (this case), then, the change in social interactions and everything leads to having completly different humans, that means, at least at first, the events after the gem war and the corruption song and etc in humanity are completly different, but, with the pass of time, they become simmilar (never equal, because if you have completly different people you can't have the same humans), Steven having a world simmilar to ours is time trying to gain it's original flow again, but as i said, the personalization of the population involved leads to different social interactions and etc

      So, Hitler (because is the only example you guys understand) can't exist on this earth (along with every human who was born after 4750 bc (end of the gem war), without the people who caused the events that happend on our planet, these events can be simmilar but never executed in the same way

      So, (3 "So," in a row yes) i don't believe WWI happend in Steven's earth either, or if it happend, it was in a different time, by different motives, and fought between different countries

      I'm really liking this theory and stuff, but i'm wasting my time here :T

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    • Remember that almost every part of Steven's earth was reformed, so, the humans who were around 5750 bc got different ideas that lead to different actions and ended in a different time line with different people

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    •  

      Also if you guys say that WW1 did not happened, did communism was invented? Either stuff happening in human history?

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    • You mean 'WAS communism invented'. The answer: i don't know

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    • Mechadestroyer wrote:
       
      Also if you guys say that WW1 did not happened, did communism was invented? Either stuff happening in human history?

      Since our ancestors in that version of earth could have interact with completly different people during the gem war, the possibility of having the same humans becomes almost null, so, the people interacting after the events of the gem war and in the present day are never going to be us, that means, everything they have done in history is completly different to what we have done

      The only reason why Steven have electricity and stuff is because every tecnological discovery is still leading to the same point, they may not have Tesla or Edison but someone completly different who can't exist in our earth figured out how, because it needs to be that way

      This means that all humanity advances and political ideas could be completly different, the randomness of this situation give us infinite possibilities, so, WWI can totally happen, but also be a completly different event, still a war, but the causes and consequences never the same, for example

      Then, something simmilar to comunism could exist here, BUT, created by a random australian guy, for example, or simply, it doesn't exist, the possibilities are infinite

      So, my conclusion is that, in the history of humanity, the most important factor to advance is social interaction in a population, a simple example of this is when you're day dreaming and think about what if you have said X instead of Y to someone, then, you would have got completly different chain of events by saying X, this is even more complex in a world where humans are dying or are being kidnapping or are being forced to move to another place, the migration of humanity was an important factor during the history of it, so by changing it you are changing a bunch of events

      I would like to point also how the probability of having the same baby is completly affected by this, but i'm not sure if it would be allowed

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    • In my mind, SU-Adolf Hitler went on to be a semi-successful painter who left a lukewarm impression on posterity.

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    • Strong In The Real Way wrote:
      In my mind, SU-Adolf Hitler went on to be a semi-successful painter who left a lukewarm impression on posterity.

      if we ignore my theory about people being different people (i realize i have to talk about how babies are made, i'm not sure if i can touch that topic on this wiki) and having actually the exact same people, yes, history tell us that Hitler could probably be a painter instead of a dictator, so yeah why not?

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    • Jolmev
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      meh
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    • Jolmev, you mean we would produce kids differently? I do not think so.

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    • Mechadestroyer wrote:
      Jolmev, you mean we would produce kids differently? I do not think so.

      I think they mean if they would be the same person

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    • Gracekim12 wrote:
      Mechadestroyer wrote:
      Jolmev, you mean we would produce kids differently? I do not think so.
      I think they mean if they would be the same person

      Exactly, thanks, i mean, kids will be different kids, not the same kids, other kids, due to simple issues like what spermatozoon will arrive first and more complex like kidnapping people, the alteration of social interactiones during 1000 years, and etc

      Complete thread: http://steven-universe.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:838774

      (Basically my original comment but with some edits)

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    • Oh I guess I was right with my guess XD

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    • Gracekim12 wrote:
      Oh I guess I was right with my guess XD

      Exactly, i'm happy someone understand it

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    • I just realized the helmet from Lion 4: Alternate Ending resembled a Stahlhelm, a World War 1 model, due to the bolts on the side. according to the article.

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    • OnionsNeggs wrote:
      I just realized the helmet from Lion 4: Alternate Ending resembled a Stahlhelm, a World War 1 model, due to the bolts on the side. according to the article.

      that's actually true, but since apparently WW2 didn't happen (as far as we know) WW1 can still be a completly different war (reasons and etc)

      besides, if the creators decide that Steven's earth and its history is exactly our earth but they just take some little events hoping for no one to notice, meh, i will be mad

      Edit: In this thread i made, another user mentioned the butterfly effect, all the stuff i said here is better explained just with that, lol

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    • LOL suddenly this is reopenned, well, as my edit says, all the weird stuff i said before is basically the butterfly effect, that summarizes everything, so yay :DD

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    • Lol

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    • What if Rose Quartz redeemed Hitler and this is why WW2 never happened? 

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    • StrikeGaming7 wrote:
      What if Rose Quartz redeemed Hitler and this is why WW2 never happened? 

      What if Hitler was never born? 

      It doesn't matter, if the crewniverse suddenly decides to tell the backstory of this earth, possibly some people will get confused and in a school exam when the teacher ask them "who discovered america?" they will say "William Dewey", or weird stuff like that :v

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    • Jolmev
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      I accidentaly published the same comment 3 times, i have problems with my internet connection
      17:33, August 31, 2017
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      Jolmev removed this reply because:
      I accidentaly published the same comment 3 times, i have problems with my internet connection x2
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