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    Discuss the latest episode here!

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    • Did anyone die when they saw this?

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    • Prystine
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    • rip myself

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    • That Distant Shore
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    • Rikkord wrote: for the last 3 minutes of the episode my jaw was DROPPED.

      Same
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    • Before I address the elephant in the room, I'd like to say something about Pearl having a collection of phone numbers with notes. What have you been up to, Pearl... *arches eyebrow*

      At first it's Steven going deeper into Pearl's subconscious and past ala Inception, and then...

      Though that's a long way to go only for what we thought in the first place to turn out to be true. @_@


      Rebecca and the Crewniverse have some explaining to do. I think I can understand why she did it, but I don't have time to go in details now. But a lot people will see it as her playing both sides like that punk Palpatine...<_<

      At least we have an idea when we get new episodes this time.

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    • AquaticPanic wrote: How to make a lapis episode:
      - She sad
      - Character development
      - Throw the development away

      then that means gut bye lapis lazuli

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    • AquaticPanic wrote:
      How to make a lapis episode:
      - She sad
      - Character development
      - Throw the development away

      Pretty much^^

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    • THIS EXPLAINS EVERYTHING


      THAT"S WHY PEARL WAS HESITANT TO SHAPESHIFT INTO STEVEN IN STEVEN TAG

      THAT"S WHY STEVEN HAS CURLY HAIR

      THAT"S WHY PEARL COVERED HER MOUTH
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    • So Pink Diamond = Rose Quartz...



      HOW THE HECK WAS SHE (in the form of Rose) ABLE TO STAY IN THAT FORM FOR SO LONG?!
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    • Fleecemanjenkins wrote:
      Huh.

      Right after Lapis leaves, Steven finds out something that would've allowed her to stay.

      why

      Plot convinience.

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    • Weeeeelp.

      Either Pink Diamond or Rose are going to get their wiki page axed.

      Your move, admins.

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    • Steven = Rose = Pink Diamond = Alive (in the form of Steven) = Great Diamond Authority = Homeworld = ???. I am shocked

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    • This episode was earth-shaking, in regard to the plot to Steven Universe

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    • LoveSeal990 wrote:
      So Pink Diamond = Rose Quartz...



      HOW THE HECK WAS SHE (in the form of Rose) ABLE TO STAY IN THAT FORM FOR SO LONG?!

      Easy, regeneration! Before Pearl poofed her, her Rose Quartz form was just a shape-change-AFTER-though, she permanantly regenerated into her Rose Quartz form.....most likely, I admit to not knowing everything and am spitballing.

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    • LoveSeal990 wrote:
      So Pink Diamond = Rose Quartz...



      HOW THE HECK WAS SHE (in the form of Rose) ABLE TO STAY IN THAT FORM FOR SO LONG?!

      Obviously Pink has held the form of Rose for a very long time, but also there are clues that 'Rose' often went off by herself on 'missions' without the other gems. My bet would be that she shifted back to Pink at those times because she couldn't hold the Rose form all the time.

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    • Oh oh ok. I wonder why that sounds familiar...

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    • Yoshimickster, well, that kinda makes sense

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    • But why would Pink give up her physical form to make Steven? 'Rose' and Greg's relationship was love-based, so did that mean that Pink loved Greg?

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    • Well, Amethyst did it.  Pearl did it. Garnet did it.  Why not Rose/Pink?

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    • The Last Horizon wrote: But why would Pink give up her physical form to make Steven? 'Rose' and Greg's relationship was love-based, so did that mean that Pink loved Greg?

      Probs most likely. She said that herself that she wanted to be free and be with humans

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    • I'm just kinda wondering how she could shape shift into Rose and do all these things... and nobody thought "hey where's pink diamond?" Aren't diamonds really important and have to talk to a lot of different gems?

      I'm also confused how Pink Diamond and Rose can even be in the same space in some of these flashbacks. Like the new ep your mother and mine. And I swear there was a mural or flashback or something that showed Rose vs Pink Diamond. (Gemcation I think)

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    • Ok, so, Pink Diamond:

      - Created a war just cause she liked Earth

      - Lied to every single existing CG and is a huge corrupt

      - Made thousands of innocent gems die

      ​​​​- Made the Roce Quartz "race" go tecnically exctinct if it wasn't by Blue holding back on it

      - Manipulated her servant to do the dirty job

      - Made tons of gems get corrupted

      - Ended up with a human despite the fact the servant she manipulated had an obvious crush on her

      - Just disappeared into a baby, who now has to clear up the mess

      - Never let any sort of preparation to the kid

      - Never explained anything to him

      This is the worst damn character in this show.

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    • Here is why I am surprised:


      • Blue was crying infront of Pink (as Steven)
      • Yellow did not know it was Pink (as Steven)
      • The Diamonds were talking to Pink (as Steven)
      • PD = RQ
      • Garnet’s “prediction” is wrong
      • Pink Diamond was poofed, then regenerated as Rose
      • The Diamonds were aiming the corruption blast at Rose/Pink herself.
      • Rose was the mask of Pink Diamond


      And yeah that’s it

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    • Yup, she basically used Steven as an escape hatch and now he has to deal with the confusion and prosecution.

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    • Here is what I think Pink's reasons for faking her own death were:

      1) She found that she loved the organic life of Earth and did not want to see it destroyed.

      2) She tried to find a way to  convince the other Diamonds to leave Earth alone. Probably first by just asking them to appreciate organic life, but that didn't work.

      3) She faked a rebellion, in the hopes that the Diamonds would decide Earth wasn't worth the effort to put down the Rebellion. Can't Go Back seems to show that that did not work.

      4) As a last resort she tried to fake her own death, hoping that would cause them to loose interest. 

      Apparently Pink Diamond was not very good at all in understanding how Diamonds think. It should have been pretty obvious that the Diamonds would just increase their efforts in the war once 'Rose' seemed to shatter Pink. I conclude that Garnet didn't join the Rebellion until after the 'shattering', or else she would have told Rose that it was a bad idea.

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    • Is she the worst character on the show...or the greatest villain?!

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    • Idk why, but this came into my mind.


      The diamonds want to destroy Earth because Pink likes her colony. They know that Pink is Rose, but they will not tell anyone. They do not care about the “extinction” of the Rose Quartzes. Even if it is not true, it’s still fun to think about tho

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    • I feel like she had terrible foresight in this plan of hers, by causing the deaths of many gems who basically fought for nothing, and then pushing the weight onto a half-human child.

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    • Ronaldo Smith wrote:
      Here is what I think Pink's reasons for faking her own death were:

      1) She found that she loved the organic life of Earth and did not want to see it destroyed.

      2) She tried to find a way to  convince the other Diamonds to leave Earth alone. Probably first by just asking them to appreciate organic life, but that didn't work.

      3) She faked a rebellion, in the hopes that the Diamonds would decide Earth wasn't worth the effort to put down the Rebellion. Can't Go Back seems to show that that did not work.

      4) As a last resort she tried to fake her own death, hoping that would cause them to loose interest. 

      Apparently Pink Diamond was not very good at all in understanding how Diamonds think. It should have been pretty obvious that the Diamonds would just increase their efforts in the war once 'Rose' seemed to shatter Pink. I conclude that Garnet didn't join the Rebellion until after the 'shattering', or else she would have told Rose that it was a bad idea.

      I guess you forget The Answer. Garnet herself stated she came after the Pink Diamond shattering

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    • I literally screamed "WHAT?" so loud when i watched this episode

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    • The Last Horizon wrote:
      But why would Pink give up her physical form to make Steven? 'Rose' and Greg's relationship was love-based, so did that mean that Pink loved Greg?

      Indeed. She loved Greg because she grew attached to the Earth.

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    • Guys we don't know anything yet. We get to hear more after new episodes come on

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    • Diamante rosa 255555

      ... !

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    • TheSmolDragonLoli wrote: I literally screamed "WHAT?" so loud when i watched this episode

      I was shocked quite impressively too. I was confused for a few minutes

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    • My jaw dropped so much after watching this....

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    • Plot twist, Steven is a Diamond and in the GDA

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    • Just imagine Steven sitting in a Diamond throne and looking like an ant next to Blue and Yellow

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    • The Last Horizon wrote: Just imagine Steven sitting in a Diamond throne and looking like an ant next to Blue and Yellow

      lol, YD would be like “PINK I AM SHATTERING YOU BECAUSE YOU LIED TO US YOU WERE ROSE QUARTZ”

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    • i am seriously confused: So if Rose Quartz was Pink Diamond, was Pearl Rose Quartz? so then... AGH!!!

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    • Happyds Past Pearl
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    • AquaticPanic wrote:
      Ok, so, Pink Diamond:

      - Created a war just cause she liked Earth

      - Lied to every single existing CG and is a huge corrupt

      - Made thousands of innocent gems die

      ​​​​- Made the Roce Quartz "race" go tecnically exctinct if it wasn't by Blue holding back on it

      - Manipulated her servant to do the dirty job

      - Made tons of gems get corrupted

      - Ended up with a human despite the fact the servant she manipulated had an obvious crush on her

      - Just disappeared into a baby, who now has to clear up the mess

      - Never let any sort of preparation to the kid

      - Never explained anything to him

      This is the worst damn character in this show.

      Thank you.  I'd also like to mention what she did to Bismuth, and Jasper's corruption is just brutal irony.  Plus, those humans are still living in the Zoo, not growing and deciding who they would become like Rose was gushing to Greg about in Greg the Babysitter.

      Remind me again what the message of this eloquent epic is?

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    • TheSmolDragonLoli wrote: i am seriously confused: So if Rose Quartz was Pink Diamond, was Pearl Rose Quartz? so then... AGH!!!

      No, Pearl is not Rose. She shapeshifted into Rose so she can “shatter” PD. Pink Diamond is Rose, though

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    • I don't even know what to say about this episode. I watched ti about one and a half hours ago and my brain is still trying to comprehend what happened.

      Also I can't believe it wasn't White Diamond who put the seal on Pearl and it was Rose(PD? I dunno what to call her now.)

      I'm also hoping that the next episode, (whenever that is) will resolve whatever conflict Rupphire have and for the two of them to get married.

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    • My interest in the show was wavering until I watched this one. It caught my attention real quick.

      I wonder how the other CGs are going to deal with this new information.

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    • Lalamusica wrote: I don't even know what to say about this episode. I watched ti about one and a half hours ago and my brain is still trying to comprehend what happened.

      Also I can't believe it wasn't White Diamond who put the seal on Pearl and it was Rose(PD? I dunno what to call her now.)

      I'm also hoping that the next episode, (whenever that is) will resolve whatever conflict Rupphire have and for the two of them to get married.

      Call her Pink/Rose or PD/RQ

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    • How pink diamond being shattered looked

      what !

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    • I do think she had good intentions but nothing went right.   Maybe her Zoo was actually hidden from the diamonds but they found it.

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    • PD is killing herself in that picture

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    • Does this reveal make you hate SU? I mean there is still so much we don't know.

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    • (After watching Pink Shattered) Well THAT"S one way to commit suicide

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    • Does anyone know how PD changed the shape of her gem?

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    • Official Cumulus Cloud wrote: (After watching Pink Shattered) Well THAT"S one way to commit suicide

      Wow

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    • Pearl are you sure what you are doing is moral

      ah....

      ah...
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    • 733971aa wrote:

      Pearl are you sure what you are doing is moral

      ah....

      ah...

      lemme kill her now hehehehe - Pearl

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    • Also what if after she shattered she didn't make the Zoo? It was the other DIamonds. 

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    • i gotta watch this episode 10 more times

      I need to know what happened.

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    • DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      I do think she had good intentions but nothing went right.   Maybe her Zoo was actually hidden from the diamonds but they found it.

      Maybe they built the zoo for her, but she didn't like it. 

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    • Rose Quartz Shattering Pink Diamond

      Rose Quartz Shattering Pink Diamond

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    • The Last Horizon wrote:
      Does anyone know how PD changed the shape of her gem?
      PinkDiamondSPR

      Can we just add this pic as her official?

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    • The Last Horizon wrote:
      Does anyone know how PD changed the shape of her gem?

      It didn't really change shape. It still retains it's original shape and size but it was rotated to having the bottom side face the outside which is a shape of a Rose Quartz.

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    • O h

      So Steven has the sharp side of the diamond under his skin

      Interesting

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    • PINK PEARL IS NOT A PART OF RHODONITE Steven Universe Discussion

      PINK PEARL IS NOT A PART OF RHODONITE Steven Universe Discussion

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    • Please stop spamming videos and pictures that are unrelated to the episode.

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    • who are you ? 

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    • W a it, this episode really got me shoook.

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    • 733971aa wrote:
      who are you ? 

      An alt.

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    • Anyone see the promo? Sapphire was all over the place.

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    • Yellanks Maheshamond

      !?

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    • Dynotics wrote:
      Anyone see the promo? Sapphire was all over the place.

      Was I the only one who was excited about Garnet's defusion?

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    • The Last Horizon wrote:
      Dynotics wrote:
      Anyone see the promo? Sapphire was all over the place.
      Was I the only one who was excited about Garnet's defusion?

      Nahhhh I was the same.

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    • When are the next episodes coming?

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    • 'This summer'

      I'm so frustrated... Lapis, you've eluded us again...

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    • ... sorry  but 

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    • Welp, this episode confirms the diamonds are Steven's aunts.

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    • I always wondered how Rose Quartz had such human-like coloration when Gems normally bear colorations based on their gem type. It makes so much more sense now. 

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    • Wait, the Diamonds are related to each other? I mean, they're the same type of gem, but how...

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    • no steven ! 

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    • The Last Horizon wrote:
      Does anyone know how PD changed the shape of her gem?

      The episode itself showed it. She didn't change the shape of her gem, it rotated forward.

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    • Lol, I was watching a livestream so the quality was kind of low. I didn't see the rotation

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    • the end ? steven universe 

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    • The Last Horizon wrote:
      Lol, I was watching a livestream so the quality was kind of low. I didn't see the rotation

      That's understandable lol.

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    • LoveSeal990 wrote:
      So Pink Diamond = Rose Quartz...



      HOW THE HECK WAS SHE (in the form of Rose) ABLE TO STAY IN THAT FORM FOR SO LONG?!

      Pink was still poofed by Pearl. When she was regenerating instead of just changing her look she probably just made the form of a Rose Quartz to be her new default.

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    • yes the end

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    • You know, now I'm kinda curious. If Rose is actually a diamond, thus making Steven a diamond, how is Smoky Quartz a quartz? Perhaps the quartz-ness comes solely from Amethyst's gem?

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    • Didn't they think up the name by themselves? Maybe Cafe Diamond would be more appropriate.

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    • The Last Horizon wrote:
      Didn't they think up the name by themselves? Maybe Cafe Diamond would be more appropriate.

      I think they're an actual Smoky Quartz gemstone.

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    • Ok, so I'm pretty sure I'm mentally dead after this episode... goodbye, world, until summer.

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    • What about Rainbow Quartz?

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    • LoveSeal990 wrote:
      So Pink Diamond = Rose Quartz...



      HOW THE HECK WAS SHE (in the form of Rose) ABLE TO STAY IN THAT FORM FOR SO LONG?!

      That was probably one of Pink Diamond's powers- as a diamond she was able to shapeshift for as long as she wanted and was even able to change her gem. 

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    • Didn't she also manage to compress dirt into gem shards?

      Or am I just stupid and seeing things?

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    • Rikkord wrote: for the last 3 minutes of the episode my jaw was DROPPED.

      I know exactly what you mean! I couldn't believe it myself! We all know what that means for Steven now!

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    • Well that was a bizarre reveal, and this just makes the Diamond situation a bit more awkward.

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    • The Last Horizon wrote:
      Didn't she also manage to compress dirt into gem shards?

      Or am I just stupid and seeing things?

      A friend told me it might just be pressure.

      HOW STRONG IS HER BREATH THEN?

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    • Just imagine if the trial didn’t go the way it did, they would’ve actually killed their own sister.

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    • ROSE IS PINK DIAMOND also I'm probably late to the party by saying this...

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    • Hah

      What can shatter a Diamond though

      They'd find out as soon as they tried to use conventional tools to shatter Steven

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    • Steven:"Mom is pink diamond"

      ME: Holy ihadiodhaoiwgdowgaodiagwd

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    • BlueWhiteLight wrote:
      Steven:"Mom is pink diamond"

      ME: Holy ihadiodhaoiwgdowgaodiagwd

      A Single Pale Rose in a nutshell



      LOL

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    • So the question becomes due to her being a diamond did she really become a Quartz? I mean if the fusions are right then Pink somehow matched her gem to her quartz soilder. 

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    • Her gem rotated to make it look like a Rose Quartz gem.

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    • I get the Zoo thing. THink about it she had no way of getting back to the humans in that Zoo. So she, until she was ever poofed Pink, stayed like Rose forever.  So the fusions ever a lie.

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    • Garnet angry at Pearl
      Look like Pearl will be in trouble again, but it will be harder than before this time.

      And honestly, who wouldn't after things like That ?




      However, PD look so cute when her face is showed the very first time in this episode. Too bad for such a malicious gem.

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    • DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      So the question becomes due to her being a diamond did she really become a Quartz? I mean if the fusions are right then Pink somehow matched her gem to her quartz soilder. 

      I wanna say no and that she was secretly a diamond all this time, but for all I know Diamonds can shape-change their gemstones as well so it is UP in the air.

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    • but, why wasting resources in Beta!? (a lot of my theories used that place and i kinda feel this explanation ignores everything, i mean, creating jaspers for what!?)



      Poor Jasper

      Poor Bismuth (maybe not, PD was trying to protect her sisters)

      PD = RQ

      ._.

      Rose is truly a mamipulative and horrible gem being

      Poor biased Garnet

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    • Diamonds can shapeshift and fuse ._.

      Steven is a diamond ._.






      Not sure if i like this twist, i mean, the show did managed well the path they choose, as i expected, but, i'm like, what!?

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    • Oh god, the past theories were right! But why would she do it? I'm blaming Yellow Diamond.

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    • At least a lot of fishy stuff is not smelling anymore

      But i'm like WHAT THE WHAT!?

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    • I'm just saying this once coz I don't want to be part of a ruckus of this episode!



      We're going to see neck Steven again...

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    • GeoBlazeSilver wrote:
      Garnet angry at Pearl
      Look like Pearl will be in trouble again, but it will be harder than before this time.

      And honestly, who wouldn't after things like That ?




      However, PD look so cute when her face is showed the very first time in this episode. Too bad for such a malicious gem.

      I feel like some anger is going to be directed toward Pearl for sure. Sapphire (in the summer promo video) looks distraught beyond reason after finding out the truth. I think in the end though, she's going to be mad at Rose Quartz/Pink Diamond. Pearl knew the truth the whole time, but it was still Rose's truth to tell. I think Garnet will recognize that and (hopefully) find peace with this fact as the seaon progresses. 

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    • Top-gem wrote:
      The Last Horizon wrote:
      Didn't they think up the name by themselves? Maybe Cafe Diamond would be more appropriate.
      I think they're an actual Smoky Quartz gemstone.

      They're not an actual Smoky Quartz; however it is more likely the writers did not have this plot twist in mind.

      Considering fusion just simply blends the two fusers and keeps the gems Smoky Quartz really does just appear as a regular old quartz, which is why Amethyst and Steven collectively thought of Smoky Quartz as a name.

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    • I am trying not to scream after seeing the episode. PD = Rose, Rose = Steven, Steven = PD. STEVEN IS A DIAMOND. HE IS  A  DIAMOND. HE IS PINK DIAMOND. PINK DIAMOND IS HIS MOTHER. TECHNICALLY HE OWNS EARTH. 

      AND THE FUSIONS WITH HIM OR WHEN HE WAS HIS MOM WERE SUPER STRONG. 

      Not Smoky Quartz, but SMOKY DIAMOND.

      Not Rainbow Quartz, BUT RAINBOW DIAMOND.

      Stevonnie, well, remains Stevonnie.

      AND TECHNICALLY PEARL IS HIS PEARL. PEARL STILL BELONGED TO SOMEONE AFTER PD DIED, AND STILL BELONGS TO HIM. 

      I wonder if he can shift into a more Diamond version of himself.

      AND WAIT.

      IT ROSE WAS NOT A ROSE QUARTZ BUT PD< THEN THAT MEANS WERE HAVE NEVER SEEN A REAL ROSE QUARTZ AND PINK DIAMOND  WAS IN FRONT OF US SINCE EPISODE ONE.


      THE SERIES' MAIN CENTRAL CHARACTER IS PINK DIAMOND. THE SHOW IS ABOUT PINK DIAMOND.

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    • GRag100 wrote:
      I am trying not to scream after seeing the episode. PD = Rose, Rose = Steven, Steven = PD. STEVEN IS A DIAMOND. HE IS  A  DIAMOND. HE IS PINK DIAMOND. PINK DIAMOND IS HIS MOTHER. TECHNICALLY HE OWNS EARTH. 

      AND THE FUSIONS WITH HIM OR WHEN HE WAS HIS MOM WERE SUPER STRONG. 

      Not Smoky Quartz, but SMOKY DIAMOND.

      Not Rainbow Quartz, BUT RAINBOW DIAMOND.

      Stevonnie, well, remains Stevonnie.

      AND TECHNICALLY PEARL IS HIS PEARL. PEARL STILL BELONGED TO SOMEONE AFTER PD DIED, AND STILL BELONGS TO HIM. 

      I wonder if he can shift into a more Diamond version of himself.

      AND WAIT.

      IT ROSE WAS NOT A ROSE QUARTZ BUT PD< THEN THAT MEANS WERE HAVE NEVER SEEN A REAL ROSE QUARTZ AND PINK DIAMOND  WAS IN FRONT OF US SINCE EPISODE ONE.


      THE SERIES' MAIN CENTRAL CHARACTER IS PINK DIAMOND. THE SHOW IS ABOUT PINK DIAMOND.

      Getting a little too ahead of yourself; saying the show is about Pink Diamond's like saying the show was about Rose Quartz.

      It's and it always will be STEVEN UNIVERSE.

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    • Three Diamonds (mostly) covered... almost time for White Diamond to finally appear? O_O

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    • Top-gem wrote: You know, now I'm kinda curious. If Rose is actually a diamond, thus making Steven a diamond, how is Smoky Quartz a quartz? Perhaps the quartz-ness comes solely from Amethyst's gem?

      ^THIS!!!

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    • Jey8000 wrote:

      Top-gem wrote: You know, now I'm kinda curious. If Rose is actually a diamond, thus making Steven a diamond, how is Smoky Quartz a quartz? Perhaps the quartz-ness comes solely from Amethyst's gem?

      ^THIS!!!

      It's just a name, they're not actually a "Smoky Quartz" 

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    • I honestly didn’t thought Rose Quartz was nothing more but a disguise for Pink Diamond but they did it! They finally did it.

      I wonder how Steven, Garnet, Amethyst, Greg, Connie, Peridot, Lapis, Diamonds, Jasper and all characters going to react when they learned that Steven is the son of Pink Diamond?

      It’s interesting direction in my own personal opinion as this twist change SU forever and nothing will be same anymore after this episode.

      Great work, Crewniverse.

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    • Alfonso720 wrote:
      Welp, this episode confirms the diamonds are Steven's aunts.

      I laughed out loud to this.

      Killer aunts....

      Also, I feel like we need a redraw of most Rose scenes in this show. Just Photoshop in Pink Diamond.

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    • CardBoss14 wrote:

      Alfonso720 wrote:
      Welp, this episode confirms the diamonds are Steven's aunts.

      I laughed out loud to this.

      Killer aunts....

      Also, I feel like we need a redraw of most Rose scenes in this show. Just Photoshop in Pink Diamond.

      I can’t wait for Diamonds and Jasper’s reaction of finding out about Steven is the son of Pink Diamond.

      Jasper will be messed up as she was trying to murder the son of her beloved Diamond. Ouch!

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    • I was always really annoyed by the whole "people died for no reason because of this!!" crticism 

      Literally any other circumstance and everyone would've died

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    • Frisbeeboy wrote: It's just a name, they're not actually a "Smoky Quartz" 

      I feel somehow Amethyst could tell as part of the being known as Smoky Quartz. However, since Pearl already knew that she was fusing with a Diamond as part of Rainbow Quartz, nothing would be brought up.

      This episode brought up WAY too many questions that I don't think they can answer fast enough.

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    • Jey8000 wrote:

      Frisbeeboy wrote: It's just a name, they're not actually a "Smoky Quartz" 

      I feel somehow Amethyst could tell as part of the being known as Smoky Quartz. However, since Pearl already knew that she was fusing with a Diamond as part of Rainbow Quartz, nothing would be brought up.

      This episode brought up WAY too many questions that I don't think they can answer fast enough.

      So you're actually saying that if Amethyst and Steven were to fuse again, their fusion name wouldn't have to be changed?

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    • NOOOO!!!! I just watched the episode and those darn "Rose is PD" theorists were right! ARRRGH!! I am so annoyed right now.

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    • look:

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      oh wow look at steven's/rose's gem... or should I say PINK DIAMOND'S GEM

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    • Frisbeeboy wrote: So you're actually saying that if Amethyst and Steven were to fuse again, their fusion name wouldn't have to be changed?

      That's not what I meant, but now that you've mentioned it, I do wonder if those fusions are now getting new names?

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    • I though there where no worse gem than lapis... But guess I was wrong. Pink diamond is truly the worst. T H E  W O R S T.

      It's only a crybaby, that only wants to own what she wants, no matter what. Pearl was just like a doll to her. A confident. She litteraly sacrifice everything to her, and who did she end up with ? greg. G R E A T. After all they went through together, she still lied to pearl about the lion. She litteraly start a freaking WAR which end up killing thousands of gems just so she can live a "normal" live along the humans. She even START A ZOO for them. She begged for a colony, only short after to find excuses to stop the colony, and fake her death because she can't speal to diamond. I reaaaaaally feel bad for pearl. But I gotta say though, that idea of going deeper and deeper into pearl's memory was great. And the animation was ++, and in can't go back too. No more 1 feet peridot. It is priceless. 

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    • Poneyrouxnazi wrote:
      I though there where no worse gem than lapis... But guess I was wrong. Pink diamond is truly the worst. T H E  W O R S T.

      It's only a crybaby, that only wants to own what she wants, no matter what. Pearl was just like a doll to her. A confident. She litteraly sacrifice everything to her, and who did she end up with ? greg. G R E A T. After all they went through together, she still lied to pearl about the lion. She litteraly start a freaking WAR which end up killing thousands of gems just so she can live a "normal" live along the humans. She even START A ZOO for them. She begged for a colony, only short after to find excuses to stop the colony, and fake her death because she can't speal to diamond. I reaaaaaally feel bad for pearl. But I gotta say though, that idea of going deeper and deeper into pearl's memory was great. And the animation was ++, and in can't go back too. No more 1 feet peridot. It is priceless. 

      Oh yeah, this means Rose made a goddamn human zoo and never went back for them WHAT THE HELL?!?! Argh I'm still reeling.

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    • The true question is though: will steven tell the diamonds ?

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    • Do people really think PD could have simply called off the colony? That's not how it works. They would've killed not just her, but the entire planet.

      This whole war scheme was the only reasonable way the earth could've been saved, anything else would've started a direct war with the diamonds. This whole scheme is the only reason anyone in the show is alive

      Also, lapis is great so idk what the standard for bad gems is here

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    • Poneyrouxnazi wrote: The true question is though: will steven tell the diamonds ?

      Maybe......

      I can’t wait for Diamonds’ reaction of Steven is the son of PD.

      They will lose their mind!

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    • Vin13ish wrote:

      Poneyrouxnazi wrote: The true question is though: will steven tell the diamonds ?

      Maybe......

      I can’t wait for Diamonds’ reaction of Steven is the son of PD.

      They will lose their mind!

      From the *cough* leaks, it seems the diamonds will no longer have Rose on a hit list, and that Blue might finally be content while Yellow bittersweet that PD betrayed homeworld.

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    • Frisbeeboy wrote:

      Vin13ish wrote:

      Poneyrouxnazi wrote: The true question is though: will steven tell the diamonds ?

      Maybe......

      I can’t wait for Diamonds’ reaction of Steven is the son of PD.

      They will lose their mind!

      From the *cough* leaks, it seems the diamonds will no longer have Rose on a hit list, and that Blue might finally be content while Yellow bittersweet that PD betrayed homeworld.

      Noooooooo I'm still trying to dodge those spoilers

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    • Frisbeeboy wrote:

      Vin13ish wrote:

      Poneyrouxnazi wrote: The true question is though: will steven tell the diamonds ?

      Maybe......

      I can’t wait for Diamonds’ reaction of Steven is the son of PD.

      They will lose their mind!

      From the *cough* leaks, it seems the diamonds will no longer have Rose on a hit list, and that Blue might finally be content while Yellow bittersweet that PD betrayed homeworld.

      what leaks?????????

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    • tbh Steven most definitely cannot fully heal Corrupted Gems; we've heard from Garnet that Rose couldn't heal corrupted gems fully, and there's no reason arose wouldn't just so she can not seem like PD, as none of the gems would associate her healing with PD.

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    • Jangobadass wrote:
      Before I address the elephant in the room, I'd like to say something about Pearl having a collection of phone numbers with notes. What have you been up to, Pearl... *arches eyebrow*

      At first it's Steven going deeper into Pearl's subconscious and past ala Inception, and then...

      Though that's a long way to go only for what we thought in the first place to turn out to be true. @_@


      Rebecca and the Crewniverse have some explaining to do. I think I can understand why she did it, but I don't have time to go in details now. But a lot people will see it as her playing both sides like that punk Palpatine...<_<

      At least we have an idea when we get new episodes this time.

      Unlike skeevy Sheev, Pink did basically straighten out. Ironically, as selfish as the decision may have initially been, becoming Steven curbed some of the worst traits she has. Steven is a whole lot more considerate than he was when he started out. He actually acts like a real leader now. 

      ​​​​​​There is something else that kinda got me during this episode. PD sounds as though she had very little real authority. The "excuses" sounded to me as though she'd tried to convince the other diamonds to leave Earth alone. However, PD is hardly a master diplomat, and she was working from a much weaker position than the people she wanted to persuade. She was after all the lowest-ranked diamond and the other two(three?) saw her as too childish to seriously listen to, let alone respect.  

      The whole zoo thing still messes with my head though. Was she unable to get at it? Did she somehow forget about it? Or was it something Blue or Yellow built for her?

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    • In Pink's defense, there really wasn't any other way to handle this situation. Sure. She didn't have to fake her death. But in doing so she did in fact save earth.

      Now there are a lot of things she did not do right. Instead of literally running away. She could confront the other diamonds and take matters to her own hands. Instead of creating a war in which many gems were shattered and corrupted she could simply put up with the diamonds.

      Let's not forget that human zoo. That was just cruel. Or maybe she saved some human so she could one day return them back to earth. Maybe she thought in doing so she would save the population of human's if the other diamonds succeded in completely destroying earth.

      It really seems like the only way to do things. The ones really at fault here let's not forget that are the other diamonds. Not pink! Pink tried to save a planet instead of killing every human and moving gem population in the colonized earth. She saw that those plans were not right and she wanted to do something about it.

      Yeah she could go against the other diamonds as pink diamond. But maybe she wasn't brave enough. Maybe the diamonds would kill her if she turned against them. Diamonds are cruel.

      The diamonds are the villain here. Not Pink. Pink tried to change the way things were going on. She tried to change things. Who knows maybe after the so called "Shattering of Pink" the other diamonds got a bit scared. We do see them a little more vulnerable. Blue before the shattering of pink seemed strict to pink. And after she is crying and misses pink. Sure she was family.

      So no Pink isn't the worst. The diamonds are.

      Sure she also could have instructed Pearl to help Steven with all this. But perhaps she trusted Steven? Her own child to succed in doing anything necessairy.

      As for Pearl I hope Garnet isn't mad at her. She couldn't say anything. Pink made her not to. And Pink's reason was good as well. She wanted a fresh start. Away from the diamonds. Also what do you Sapphire and Ruby or any other gem (crystal gem) would trust Pink to lead them? I don't think so.

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    • So... all the gems who died and became corrupted... it was all for nothing...?

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    • They fought for the earth I guess.... :/

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    • Deco-kun wrote:
      They fought for the earth I guess.... :/

      Yeah, cause Homeworld was taking "revenge" for Pink Diamond's "death"...

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    • Frisbeeboy wrote:
      GRag100 wrote:
      I am trying not to scream after seeing the episode. PD = Rose, Rose = Steven, Steven = PD. STEVEN IS A DIAMOND. HE IS  A  DIAMOND. HE IS PINK DIAMOND. PINK DIAMOND IS HIS MOTHER. TECHNICALLY HE OWNS EARTH. 

      AND THE FUSIONS WITH HIM OR WHEN HE WAS HIS MOM WERE SUPER STRONG. 

      Not Smoky Quartz, but SMOKY DIAMOND.

      Not Rainbow Quartz, BUT RAINBOW DIAMOND.

      Stevonnie, well, remains Stevonnie.

      AND TECHNICALLY PEARL IS HIS PEARL. PEARL STILL BELONGED TO SOMEONE AFTER PD DIED, AND STILL BELONGS TO HIM. 

      I wonder if he can shift into a more Diamond version of himself.

      AND WAIT.

      IT ROSE WAS NOT A ROSE QUARTZ BUT PD< THEN THAT MEANS WERE HAVE NEVER SEEN A REAL ROSE QUARTZ AND PINK DIAMOND  WAS IN FRONT OF US SINCE EPISODE ONE.


      THE SERIES' MAIN CENTRAL CHARACTER IS PINK DIAMOND. THE SHOW IS ABOUT PINK DIAMOND.

      Getting a little too ahead of yourself; saying the show is about Pink Diamond's like saying the show was about Rose Quartz.

      It's and it always will be STEVEN UNIVERSE.

      Yeah but Steven is Rose and Rose is PD. And they are basically smart alien rocks. So the show is about the same sentient rock and (now) organic matter. 

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    • Rag100 wrote:
      I am trying not to scream after seeing the episode. PD = Rose, Rose = Steven, Steven = PD. STEVEN IS A DIAMOND. HE IS  A  DIAMOND. HE IS PINK DIAMOND. PINK DIAMOND IS HIS MOTHER. TECHNICALLY HE OWNS EARTH. 

      AND THE FUSIONS WITH HIM OR WHEN HE WAS HIS MOM WERE SUPER STRONG. 

      Not Smoky Quartz, but SMOKY DIAMOND.

      Not Rainbow Quartz, BUT RAINBOW DIAMOND.

      Stevonnie, well, remains Stevonnie.

      AND TECHNICALLY PEARL IS HIS PEARL. PEARL STILL BELONGED TO SOMEONE AFTER PD DIED, AND STILL BELONGS TO HIM. 

      I wonder if he can shift into a more Diamond version of himself.

      AND WAIT.

      IT ROSE WAS NOT A ROSE QUARTZ BUT PD< THEN THAT MEANS WERE HAVE NEVER SEEN A REAL ROSE QUARTZ AND PINK DIAMOND  WAS IN FRONT OF US SINCE EPISODE ONE.


      THE SERIES' MAIN CENTRAL CHARACTER IS PINK DIAMOND. THE SHOW IS ABOUT PINK DIAMOND.

      Pink Diamond = Rose Quartz

      Rose Quartz =/= Steven

      Rose Quartz is the form of Pink Diamond. Steven is not Rose though. Steven has Rose Quartz's gem, and appears to be able to view some of her memories in flashbacks, such as in "Jungle Moon", but posessing someone's gem doesn't make you them.

      Also, Pink Diamond didn't shapeshift into Rose Quartz and vise versa. Pink Diamond changed her form, as shown by some gems throught the series, especially in "Beach Party" .

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    • Pd-dekokun

      Pink Diamond by Deko-kun

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      OMG! Pink Diamond has finally appeared in full body and her voice has been revealed
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    • Wait. Pink Diamond was not shattered by Rose but Pearl. Why?

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    • No way. Pink Diamond is Rose Quratz the whole time.

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    • I can't believe Pink Diamond ate herself

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    • I am SO PISSED aout the leak of CN... (diamonds and the crystal gems)... I mean... Who the f*ck is in charge of promotionnal interview ? AND WHO IS MAKING THE MONTAGE JESUS... All the tension that I get about how worst could this situation in the serie could be in the future just gone... fock me...

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    • My life...my life is a lie. Wait that means Steven inherits everything Pink had so he can go to the zoo and set the zoomans and famethyst free. Oh man we gotta tell Jasper and Eyeball!

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    • Poneyrouxnazi wrote:
      I am SO PISSED aout the leak of CN... (diamonds and the crystal gems)... I mean... Who the f*ck is in charge of promotionnal interview ? AND WHO IS MAKING THE MONTAGE JESUS... All the tension that I get about how worst could this situation in the serie could be in the future just gone... fock me...

      First off, no thanks.And secondly, after the promo for the summer episodes released, it's safe to say that CN only "Accidentally" leaked the next few episodes that comes right after this one. So it's not the end of the world or the show.

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    • Wait, what should we call Rose now? Do we merge the two pages...my life is a lie!

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    • So Steven's a diamond. Ok bye

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    • 733971aa wrote:
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      Okay, and so?

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    • I can kinda understand why she did what she did. Pink might've made the zoo so the Gems wouldn't kill the humans they'd attack then she became Rose so that she could convince her sisters that they needed to abandon Earth or risk a war. When that didn't happen she figured they were only staying to make her complete the colony so she "shattered" herself.

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    • yes

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    • I feel like this is kind of a cop out.  I mean sure I was okay with Rose not being the culprit but I prefered it when Pink was dead, because now the Diamonds (Blue and Yellow at least) are going to be like "oh YOU'RE Pink? Oh well don't we feel silly... Well now we are going to change our whole point of view and treat you nicer." 

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    • We got a sneak peak at the next episode to come out. Honestly, it looks like "Keystone Motel" all over again

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    • I'm surprised Sapphire's the one reacting like this, usually it's Ruby who'd be mad over a lie. Of course it may relate back to finding out about Bismuth, Ruby might've accepted it after a while but Sapphire might've bottled her feelings until now.

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    • Starforest the NightWing RainWing wrote:
      We got a sneak peak at the next episode to come out. Honestly, it looks like "Keystone Motel" all over again

      Yeah Garnet split up. Honestly, I cant blame Sapphire because c'mon man, Rose lied to them. All of them.

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    • PearLIsWhiteDiamond wrote:
      Starforest the NightWing RainWing wrote:
      We got a sneak peak at the next episode to come out. Honestly, it looks like "Keystone Motel" all over again
      Yeah Garnet split up. Honestly, I cant blame Sapphire because c'mon man, Rose lied to them. All of them.

      You know it must be bad if Sapphire's angry

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    • I saw these episodes just now and.......

      WWWHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!?

      Rose WAS Pink Diamond!? That theory was right!?!?!?!?!? Steven is part Diamond!? Does that make HIM Pink Diamond!?

      Okay, now that I got that hysteria out of my system, I have to say that Pink must have matured A LOT since she got her first colony. Those theorists who said that Rose is PD must be having a field day now. I personally thought that was farfetched to say the least. No wonder Sapphire looked so upset in that preview. It looks like the house of cards Rose (I'm sorry, Pink) and Pearl built has finally fallen. This also means those poor Rose Quartzes basically got bubbled for nothing, and I guess she forgot about the humans she has at her zoo. I guess this is why Pearl doesn't like shapeshifting. Oh, and I thought the Diamonds' gems would be larger than that (or is it just Pink?).

      If the Diamonds, Bismuth, or (poor) Greg find this out, they will be having the same reaction I did.

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    • How'll Greg and the Diamonds react? Jasper, Eyeball, the Off Colors, Bismuth how'll they react? The famethyst, they're gonna want to fight for Steven right?

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      How'll Greg and the Diamonds react? Jasper, Eyeball, the Off Colors, Bismuth how'll they react? The famethyst, they're gonna want to fight for Steven right?

      Oh yeah, Jasper. I imagine it would be really awkward for her to realize that she had been trying to kill her own Diamond (even though it is Steven and NOT Rose/Pink) all this time. Or maybe, this revelation may be key to curing her corruption.

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    • MissFitt wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      How'll Greg and the Diamonds react? Jasper, Eyeball, the Off Colors, Bismuth how'll they react? The famethyst, they're gonna want to fight for Steven right?
      Oh yeah, Jasper. I imagine it would be really awkward for her to realize that she had been trying to kill her own Diamond (even though it is Steven and NOT Rose/Pink) all this time. Or maybe, this revelation may be key to curing her corruption.

      Well the bingo did say Jasper would be back. She might be confused but at least she can get closure.

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    • Aww, little boy Steven is a pink authoritarian all along. My theory was right all along.

      Time for Jasper to wake up and be with the Crystal Jems, well after we figure out how to chill Sapphire again. 

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    • So how are we gonna edit Pink Diamonds page now, in the extend Rose Quartzes and Steven Universes?

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    • Tesla Effect wrote: So how are we gonna edit Pink Diamonds page now, in the extend Rose Quartzes and Steven Universes?

      Steven is a half-human, so he cannot multiply.

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    • Tesla Effect wrote: Aww, little boy Steven is a pink authoritarian all along. My theory was right all along.

      Time for Jasper to wake up and be with the Crystal Jems, well after we figure out how to chill Sapphire again. 

      And lol, now Sapphire’s Ruby now

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    • Also I love the fact steven was dreaming is old memories. Now I want a Steven in Pink Diamond appearance but in male genderbend. 

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    • This begs the question, should Pearl now be called Pink Pearl?

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    • So shook. I had never imagined pearl as the one who "shatters" pink, but idk I actually had imagined the possibility of Rose being Pink diamond. I just can't wait for the story to develop into a complicated battle.im guessing, hoping, the Rose Quartzes in the zoo may be freed, and the off colors and many others may join the cause... I'm so friggin excited rn that I just can't wait for the story to go on

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    • Steven actually likes Giant women cause deep in his subcontious he got the hots for Blue Diamond, or maybe Yellow....or maybe White. Diamond Forsome free-for-all.

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    • DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      So the question becomes due to her being a diamond did she really become a Quartz? I mean if the fusions are right then Pink somehow matched her gem to her quartz soilder. 

      Guys, it's not that complicated. Rose Quartz shapshifted herself into Pink Diamond.

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    • Tesla Effect wrote:
      Steven actually likes Giant women cause deep in his subcontious he got the hots for Blue Diamond, or maybe Yellow....or maybe White. Diamond Forsome free-for-all.

      Considering Blue and Yellow are like his parents...

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    • MegaCirno wrote:
      Do people really think PD could have simply called off the colony? That's not how it works. They would've killed not just her, but the entire planet.

      This whole war scheme was the only reasonable way the earth could've been saved, anything else would've started a direct war with the diamonds. This whole scheme is the only reason anyone in the show is alive

      Also, lapis is great so idk what the standard for bad gems is here

      She lied though, and the aftermath of these lies.  Gems like Bismuth thought they were fighting for their autonomy, freedom from the Diamonds, but she was fighting for a Diamond all along.  And that Diamond bubbled her without revealing the truth.  She preyed on Bismuth's insecurities, and attempted to identify with these Gems, leading them into a fight, just like any other Diamond.  Jasper thought she was doing the "right" thing for Pink Diamond, but lo and behold, it's a farce, because apparently Pink didn't want that anyway.

      Was it the only reasonable way? 

      After Gems shattered in the Rebellion, Homeworld started haphazardly fusing the shards, which would become prototypes for a mega geoweapon incubating in the Earth, so the Diamonds didn't truly leave the Earth alone.  Had Peridot not mentioned its existence, then the Earth would've been a goner anyway, just five thousand or some odd years later.  And the Diamonds are still upset about Pink's fate; Blue Diamond is a in perpetual misery and wanted to shatter the very Gem she thought she was avenging.  Steven is the one left holding the bag now.

      The only difference with this scenario is that the Diamonds don't hate Pink.  Earth and its inhabitants were still targeted for destruction, but unlike many of Pink's loyal subjects, she got to live, uncorrupted.  If they were going to kill her for betrayal then, why shouldn't they kill "her" now?

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    • BlunderDip52 wrote:

      DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      So the question becomes due to her being a diamond did she really become a Quartz? I mean if the fusions are right then Pink somehow matched her gem to her quartz soilder. 

      Guys, it's not that complicated. Rose Quartz shapshifted herself into Pink Diamond.

      But Rose IS Pink

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    • When I saw the last episode, I think of Rose as Dark Vador and Jasper as Luke :

      - Rose, you kill my diamond !

      - No, Jasper. I am your diamond.

      - NOOOooooooo ! x)

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    • OctalenSist wrote:
      When I saw the last episode, I think of Rose as Dark Vador and Jasper as Luke :

      - Rose, you kill my diamond !

      - No, Jasper. I am your diamond.

      - NOOOooooooo ! x)

      Ok, this is pretty funny XD

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    • - Rose, you kill my diamond !

      - No, Jasper. I am your diamond.

      - YOU SHATTERED MY DIAMOND ROSE

      - But my Mom is Pink

      - ...

      Should have been like that

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    • OK. This is W-E-I-R-D! This is something I think could have been happening.

      Steven: "Mom is Pink Diamond. So if the Diamonds are like sisters, then...that makes Blue and Yellow Diamond my Aunts!"

      Pearl: "Umm...yes..."

      Steven: "So Peridot, Jasper, Aquamarine, and Topaz were ALL SENT BY MY RELATIVES?"

      Pearl: "Technically but they aren't biological."

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    • Peridot may have gotten out of Homeworld's mindset but boy is she gonna have a field day XD

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    • Remember the episode space race in season 1 in which Pearl wore a spacesuit with a pink diamond on it? Turns out maybe that was a teaser and that fan theory that got debunked may have actually been right.

      Also some of you guys seriously need a chill pill. 

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    • I wonder what kind of powers Steven has now like Diamond powers. Is his Diamond power telepathy? If so what's White's power?

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    • Maybe mind control? Telekinesis? Something to top telepathy.

      On another note, I have to say that I cannot imagine Pink having her tantrum with Rose's voice. I am having a hard time transposing it over AJ Michalka's. 

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    • Rikkord wrote:
      for the last 3 minutes of the episode my jaw was DROPPED.

      Yea. Same.

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    • Rose is Pink Diamond?!

      I can't decide if that's ridiculous or brilliant. So I'll settle with ridiculously brilliant!

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    • Ok next up Steven, you go to the zoo and free the humans. The zoo is yours by all rights, and so is the spaceship, anything that was Pink's is yours.

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    • i hated rose before just a little, now i truly hate her :T

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    • Rose isnt real
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    • Don't be too harsh on Pink, things aren't as simple as they seem. Remember, humans were being attacked probably killed. Pink was probably trying to save them by putting them in the zoo

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    • I Worry on What Every one of Steven's Friends, Allies, and Enemies will feel when they find out that he's a diamond.

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    • Peridot I think will be conflicted but also kinda excited because that means a Diamond is fighting with them, Greg, Connie and the other CGs besides Bismuth won't really be too upset with Steven, Bismuth will be conflicted, Jasper and Eyeball will flip, the Famethyst might be awkward but still pleasent. Not sure on the Diamonds

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    • I wonder if Steven will ever speak to his mother. Also, since Pink changed her apperance and mimics a Rose Quartz wouldn't it make sense for her in a sense mimic their fusions as well? Her Gem is apperance looks like Rose Quartz. Her skin tone matches one wouldn't she find a way to mimic it? I mean rainbow quartz matches with the Gemstone.

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Ok next up Steven, you go to the zoo and free the humans. The zoo is yours by all rights, and so is the spaceship, anything that was Pink's is yours.

      AH-but will the humans adapt to Earth so easily? I mean for one, this off-shot of humanity has been in a germ-free spaceship for THOUSANDS of years, most likely never evolving anti-bodies to certain sicknesses. Might be a "War of the Worlds" situation, but sadder because they just wanna run around and make out.

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    • Before watching these episodes, I saw a poor quality promotion (at least I thought it was promotional) of them on this wiki. These were not the leaked spoilers were they? If not, then I am GLAD I missed that.

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    • Yoshimickster wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Ok next up Steven, you go to the zoo and free the humans. The zoo is yours by all rights, and so is the spaceship, anything that was Pink's is yours.
      AH-but will the humans adapt to Earth so easily? I mean for one, this off-shot of humanity has been in a germ-free spaceship for THOUSANDS of years, most likely never evolving anti-bodies to certain sicknesses. Might be a "War of the Worlds" situation, but sadder because they just wanna run around and make out.

      Yes, that would be a real risk, but Dr. Maheswaren can probably give them inoculations for the more serious diseases, and Steven has his healing powers for others. Of course this is a cartoon, so that will all be ignored.

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    • She's trans-gem-der

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    • Yoshimickster wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Ok next up Steven, you go to the zoo and free the humans. The zoo is yours by all rights, and so is the spaceship, anything that was Pink's is yours.
      AH-but will the humans adapt to Earth so easily? I mean for one, this off-shot of humanity has been in a germ-free spaceship for THOUSANDS of years, most likely never evolving anti-bodies to certain sicknesses. Might be a "War of the Worlds" situation, but sadder because they just wanna run around and make out.

      True, they'd have to somehow get their immune systems built up. Besides, even if they get outside and can survive getting sick someone's going to get hit by a bus or something. Steven might be able to help with his powers

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    • So, is rose actually pink diamond, or was rose just pretending?

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    • This kind of explains why steven cries blue diamonds tears.

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    • Opdagon wrote:
      So, is rose actually pink diamond, or was rose just pretending?

      Rose is Pink Diamond and Pink Diamond is Rose

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    • Fluorite said it well: "Rose Quartz isn't real." She was an identity invented by Pink Diamond so she could experience life on Earth and lead the Crystal Gems in rebellion. She has told a lot of lies and kept a lot of secrets, and this is the biggest one of all.

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    • Poor Sapphire though, she probably feels like this was the ultimate act of cruelty by Pink Diamond. Even if Pink meant well she did tell the ultimate lie. Ruby probably came to accept that as the leader Rose needed to keep secrets but Sapphire just went through multiple secrets at once that kept getting progressivly worse. The light cannons ok that's fine, Lion ok Rose had a lion, Bismuth um ok she must've had a good reason, being the leader you fought against and telling stories about how bad Pink was? I get why it's too much

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    • When I first saw the episode I felt like I had been cheated and that this was a bad retcon. I'm a bit calmer now. Originally I thought this revelation opened a window to resolve things peacefully with the Diamond Authority if they could somehow convince them of the trutg but upon reflection I don't think that's what would happen.

      Right now Blue Diamond is trying to hold onto as much of Pink Diamond as possible and that's why she preserved the Rose Quartzes and collected humans for the zoo. She's not eager for the Earth to be destroyed. I thinking learning the truth could change all of that, and convert Blue's sadness into rage. Knowing that Pink Diamond left Homeworld and lied to everyone to protect Earth and Humanity and then gave up her physical form because she fell in love and wanted a kid....I think that would make Blue Diamond want to destroy Earth, Humanity, and Steven Universe.

      Yellow Diamond wanted to destroy the Earth partly to avenge Pink Diamond's murder but also because she believes destroying all traces of Pink Diamond will bring her closure and she can just put it all behind her. I wonder what would happen if Yellow Diamond found out that Pink wasn't murdered? How would Yellow Diamond react to the knowledge that the enemy she wanted to destroy was actually her loved one?

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    • The Last Horizon wrote:
      Please stop spamming videos and pictures that are unrelated to the episode.

      Actually, it IS related. Since we now know Pearl was Pink Pearl, that proves the video's point that Pink Pearl cannot be Rhodonite's Pearl. (That is, unless PD had multiple Pearls.)

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    • damn ive just understood why does steven look so young in his 14. his mom looked quite young for her age too..................................................

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    • IWillEndYou by Koo
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    • Jolmev wrote: i hated rose before just a little, now i truly hate her :T

      Why? Just asking.

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    • If I was Pink Diamond's servant, I would serve her but not Steven or Nora!

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    • YourToesGiveThemToMe

      Your Toes. Give them to me.

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    • Well, I saw this coming a long time ago, but I must say that I'm a bit floored now that all of my theorizing has been validated. There are a few things that bother me with this new bit of information:

      1) Rose Quartz isn't real. I always liked Rose Quartz as a character, and looked forward to her episode appearances. She was always, theorizing aside, a separate character from Pink Diamond. She was her own gem, and over the course of the series I became very fond of her. Now we find out Rose Quartz was all a ruse, a disguise, a mask. Really, she amounted to little more than one of those sets of fake glasses with attached noses that you can buy in any joke or costume shop. That makes me sad. This one time, I wish I'd been wrong.

      2) Pearl's loyalty to and love for Rose Quartz now has to be called into question. A pearl is designed to be loyal even unto death for her owner. That can be seen in every other pearl ever shown, with the exception of the pearl that makes up half of Rhodonite. So all of Pearl's devotion, her deep and unending love, her desire to be as close to Rose Quartz as possible... How much of that was Pearl's programming and how much of it was love that developed naturally?

      3) And since we're on the subject of Pearl, how much of Pearl's involvement in the rebellion was a genuine desire to rebel? How much of it was out of loyalty to her Diamond and her programming?

      4) At what point did Homeworld begin work on the Cluster? Surely Pink, who was so in love with the planet that she sacrificed the lives of untold Gems to liberate it, would have had some serious objections to this? Pink Diamond was a large part of the war and a member of the Diamond Authority for the greater part of the Earth invasion and would NOT have initiated work on such a terrible geoweapon herself. It wasn't until Pink was "shattered" that Blue took over. She even dismissed Pink's concerns and told her to just "smile and wave". Seriously? Smile and wave? It doesn't seem like Blue and Yellow ran things on Earth for long before they packed up and sent the Corruption Song. When did these Cluster experiments take place?

      5) Since Rose Quartz was a mask and Pink Diamond was the real leader of the Crystal Gems all along, this puts to rest so many theories that Rose's chest contained Pink's gem shards, or her intact but bubbled gem. That being said, what could possibly be in that chest?

      6) Is Steven technically a member of the Great Diamond Authority?

      So many questions, so few episodes left.

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    • episodes new ? 
      Week of lapis is fake btw
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    • No those are fake, it even says multiple times, "Fake"

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    • Benbarrett82 wrote:
      Well, I saw this coming a long time ago, but I must say that I'm a bit floored now that all of my theorizing has been validated. There are a few things that bother me with this new bit of information:

      1) Rose Quartz isn't real. I always liked Rose Quartz as a character, and looked forward to her episode appearances. She was always, theorizing aside, a separate character from Pink Diamond. She was her own gem, and over the course of the series I became very fond of her. Now we find out Rose Quartz was all a ruse, a disguise, a mask. Really, she amounted to little more than one of those sets of fake glasses with attached noses that you can buy in any joke or costume shop. That makes me sad. This one time, I wish I'd been wrong.

      ...

      4) At what point did Homeworld begin work on the Cluster? Surely Pink, who was so in love with the planet that she sacrificed the lives of untold Gems to liberate it, would have had some serious objections to this? Pink Diamond was a large part of the war and a member of the Diamond Authority for the greater part of the Earth invasion and would NOT have initiated work on such a terrible geoweapon herself. It wasn't until Pink was "shattered" that Blue took over. She even dismissed Pink's concerns and told her to just "smile and wave". Seriously? Smile and wave? It doesn't seem like Blue and Yellow ran things on Earth for long before they packed up and sent the Corruption Song. When did these Cluster experiments take place?

      So many questions, so few episodes left.

      For #1, I wouldn't say Rose Quartz was a fake being. I personally like to view Pink/Rose similarly to how I view Bruce Wayne/Batman, with their "true" face actually being a mask, acting how the outside world expects them to act, while their secret identities allow them to be the person they truly are. Also reminds me of the Oscar Wilde quote: "Give a man a mask and he will show you his true face."

      As for #4, I'd say the diamonds started working on the cluster shortly after Pink's shattering. Judging by how she acted when talking about Pink, I'm assuming it was Yellow's idea to create the cluster, as her coping mechanism towards Pink's shattering seems to be putting it all behind her, and the best way to do that is to destroy everything that reminds her of Pink: changing the diamond logo to only show 3 diamonds, destroy Earth using the cluster, etc. I doubt Blue came up with the idea and we simply know too little about White (she hasn't even gotten an official name drop yet, if I'm correct) to theorize about her involvement.

      EDIT: Btw, first post here. Hi all.

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    • Pink Diamond's a cannibal

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    • So if Yellow is innocent with Pink's "shattering," I wonder why she poofed the Zircons when one of them alleged a Diamond was involved (which turned out to be true, as Pink herself masterminded it). Maybe she was just irked by someone even making that assumption. Or is it because of her feelings about Pink, whether it is she really wants to forget Pink or that she feels that she is somehow responsible for her "death" or that she didn't do enough? Yellow was annoyed with Pink when she was around, but she expressed to Blue that she missed her, so could there be some kind of guilt?

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    • Well, judging by the scene where Pink created gem shards from dirt, I have a theory now. What if to make a gem, a Diamond has to create the physical gemstone, then embed it with a bit of their power before putting it into the ground to let it incubate and accumulate energy to give it a body to protect it and a mind to give it consciousness and a conscience? Maybe this is the process that the gem injectors try to replicate or are the tools that take what the Diamonds create and improve the process?

      Any backers? Anyone who can pose more questions/answers that can make or break this theory?

      MissFitt wrote:
      So if Yellow is innocent with Pink's "shattering," I wonder why she poofed the Zircons when one of them alleged a Diamond was involved (which turned out to be true, as Pink herself masterminded it). Maybe she was just irked by someone even making that assumption. Or is it because of her feelings about Pink, whether it is she really wants to forget Pink or that she feels that she is somehow responsible for her "death" or that she didn't do enough? Yellow was annoyed with Pink when she was around, but she expressed to Blue that she missed her, so could there be some kind of guilt?

      I would say that yeah, Yellow is innocent. I threw around the "Yellow is Guilty" out of the fun of making theories and toying with them.

      However, Yellow poofed the Zircons becuase she was distressed by the accusation and the feelings that came with the trial. Now that I look at it from a more understanding lens, both Yellow and Blue have depression. They are just showing it differently. When I was getting my third evaluation on where I was on the Autism Spectrum, I learned that there are polar opposite reactions that can point to the exact same thing in almost any situation. I learned that just like how you can have so much sorrow that you cry and break down like Blue Diamond did, you can also have so much sorrow that you lash out at everyone and anything like Yellow Diamond did. There is angery/irritable and sad/commonly-depicted depression.

      (Source(s):

      https://www.elementsbehavioralhealth.com/mood-disorders/irritable-depression-when-sadness-feels-like-anger/

      http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20581256,00.html#do-count-to-10-or-100--0

      https://www.helpguide.org/articles/depression/depression-symptoms-and-warning-signs.htm)

      Yellow Diamond has the anger-related symptoms of depression, Blue Diamond has the common depiction of depression.

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    • Official Cumulus Cloud wrote:
      THIS EXPLAINS EVERYTHING


      THAT"S WHY PEARL WAS HESITANT TO SHAPESHIFT INTO STEVEN IN STEVEN TAG

      THAT"S WHY STEVEN HAS CURLY HAIR

      THAT"S WHY PEARL COVERED HER MOUTH

      It also explains why rose/steven have so many abilities compared to the rest

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    • A L P H A B E T I Z E D

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    • Could CN be more specific, when in Summer? June, July?

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    • Pink diamondy
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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      Could CN be more specific, when in Summer? June, July?

      Unfortunately Summer does not officially end until September 22nd, so we might not see any more episodes until late September. Hope I am wrong.

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    • I wonder if the chest in Lion's mane has written explanation from Pink to everyone, maybe even a video. Like maybe she figured that one day something would happen and her secret would get out and maybe she wouldn't be around to explain everything so she made the video or letter just in case.

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    • The Last Horizon wrote:
      Does anyone know how PD changed the shape of her gem?

      If you look at her transforformation, she appears to have rotated it so that its top is facing outward as Rose? 

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    • Yea she simply rotated the gem.  

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    • You guys think Steven will ever talk to his mother for real

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    • I’ve never screamed so loudly

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    • DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      You guys think Steven will ever talk to his mother for real

      Did you watch Lion 3?

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    • Check out my blog. I posted a revisited theory about what happened a while back and literally had to pull a Pearl to keep myself from screaming.

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      I wonder if the chest in Lion's mane has written explanation from Pink to everyone, maybe even a video. Like maybe she figured that one day something would happen and her secret would get out and maybe she wouldn't be around to explain everything so she made the video or letter just in case.

      Pearl: Steven, your mother told me to give you a certain item when the time was right. I didn't know what she meant then, but I think I do now.

      Pearl then pulls a key from her Gem that looks to be just the right size for the chest in Lion's mane.

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    • I'll admit I laughed so hard when Amethyst said "WHAT! Did anyone else?

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    • Mudkip57430Cool wrote:
      DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      You guys think Steven will ever talk to his mother for real
      Did you watch Lion 3?

      I'm wondering if it might be possible to use Rose's Room to do this.

      The Room seems to have some ability to read Steven's mind and anticipate what he wants, though it does sometimes misunderstand him. I would assume that it could read Rose's mind too.

      Rose is trapped in the Gem in Steven's belly, but maybe there might be a way to amplify the Room's mind reading ability so that it could read Rose's mind even though she is in the Gem, then have Holo Rose say what real Rose is thinking.

      If the crewniverse wants to allow such a thing then this would be one way to allow Steven to talk to Rose for real.



      OH, OH, New thought!!!

      Could Steven learn the power Pearl has to place other people into her Gem?

      Could Steven then put Pearl into his Gem? Who would Pearl then find in there? Rose? Pink Diamond? Steven? Stevonnie? (OK not Stevonnie, but wouldn't that be a surprise?)

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    • LapisLazuliisthebest wrote:
      I'll admit I laughed so hard when Amethyst said "WHAT! Did anyone else?

      My wife is still laughing.

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    • PD and RQ fanart by LS990

      Hey guys. I made some fanart about Rose and Pink Diamond. Does anyone like it?

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    • It's really great, but looks kiinda like ship art

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    • Sorry :> It was just a design

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    • I knew this would happen, but now that it has I can't believe it did happen.

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    • After seeing A Single Pale Rose, this is the fandom’s face http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/925/091/0ec.png

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    • Can we talk about how Rose just straight up ABANDONED the humans she abducted? Think about it, the original humans DIED on that ship far from home, and their descendants evolved into complacent sheeple!

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    • Yoshimickster wrote:
      Can we talk about how Rose just straight up ABANDONED the humans she abducted? Think about it, the original humans DIED on that ship far from home, and their descendants evolved into complacent sheeple!

      I think the zoo was her back up plan to save what she could of Earth's life in case her plans to stop the destruction of Earth failed.

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    • If you 'love humans' you shouldn't lock them up and make them completely oblivious to the outside world.

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    • I'm happy she turned out to be not shattered but not happy for Pink being Rose!

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    • So all this time...the one who killed Pink Diamond...was Greg! XD

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    • Lol, I guess you could come to that conclusion

      But if so, it was more of a suicide

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      So all this time...the one who killed Pink Diamond...was Greg! XD

      OMG!! 

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    • I wonder how Blue will react to learning that her favorite human killed her sister

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    • More importantly, how will she react to Steven? I imagine her first instinct would be to try and pull out his gem.

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    • Are you people still on about this, if Steven dies, she'll come back!

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    • And if someone takes his gem out, it'll leave a cone-shaped hole in his stomach XD

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    • Nachida Raache wrote:
      Are you people still on about this, if Steven dies, she'll come back!

      Are you willing to sacrifice him for her?

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    • I wouldn't

      From what we've seen, she's a jerk, if unintentionally.

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:

      Nachida Raache wrote:
      Are you people still on about this, if Steven dies, she'll come back!

      Are you willing to sacrifice him for her?

      What! No! I mean it's going to take years for Steven to pass on and that's why I hate the idea of Pink Diamond being Rose/Steven or Nora! Because I couldn't watch my favorite character in action!

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    • im truly confused.

      did.. pearl ACTUALLY shatter pink/rose

      or was it fake

      was that gem rose's

      or not?

      im shook

      so long i had laughed at people who believed rose was pink..

      SUGAR.

      YOU BETRAYED USSSSS

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    • Nachida Raache wrote:

      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:

      Nachida Raache wrote:
      Are you people still on about this, if Steven dies, she'll come back!
      Are you willing to sacrifice him for her?
      What! No! I mean it's going to take years for Steven to pass on and that's why I hate the idea of Pink Diamond being Rose/Steven or Nora! Because I couldn't watch my favorite character in action!

      Ok good, sorry it's just people can be weird sometimes.

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    • Still is still so much we don’t know. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. I hope has the series goes on we have Steven and Rose speak more and more to each other 

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:

      Nachida Raache wrote:

      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:

      Nachida Raache wrote:
      Are you people still on about this, if Steven dies, she'll come back!
      Are you willing to sacrifice him for her?
      What! No! I mean it's going to take years for Steven to pass on and that's why I hate the idea of Pink Diamond being Rose/Steven or Nora! Because I couldn't watch my favorite character in action!

      Ok good, sorry it's just people can be weird sometimes.

      Okay good then!

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    • CloudyRoses wrote:
      im truly confused.

      did.. pearl ACTUALLY shatter pink/rose

      or was it fake

      was that gem rose's

      or not?

      im shook

      so long i had laughed at people who believed rose was pink..

      SUGAR.

      YOU BETRAYED USSSSS

      No Pink was shapeshifting back and forth between herself and Rose. Pink crushed dirt into a crystal that looked like her shards. Pearl just poofed her Diamond while allowing the little shards to fall and kept Pink's actual Gemstone hidden until she could reform back into Rose

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    • i think.. actually.. steven could not die a human way

      he wasnt made from sexual interaction, but rather a gem changing.. he might not be half human



      and.. like pearl..

      the stevens.. inside of steven..

      might be rose.

      or.. maybe even pink.

      yellow and blue wouldn't even know.

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    • There could be a version of Steven within Steven that guards Pink's memories

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    • I doRonaldo Smith wrote:
      Mudkip57430Cool wrote:
      DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      You guys think Steven will ever talk to his mother for real
      Did you watch Lion 3?
      I'm wondering if it might be possible to use Rose's Room to do this.

      The Room seems to have some ability to read Steven's mind and anticipate what he wants, though it does sometimes misunderstand him. I would assume that it could read Rose's mind too.

      Rose is trapped in the Gem in Steven's belly, but maybe there might be a way to amplify the Room's mind reading ability so that it could read Rose's mind even though she is in the Gem, then have Holo Rose say what real Rose is thinking.

      If the crewniverse wants to allow such a thing then this would be one way to allow Steven to talk to Rose for real.



      OH, OH, New thought!!!

      Could Steven learn the power Pearl has to place other people into her Gem?

      Could Steven then put Pearl into his Gem? Who would Pearl then find in there? Rose? Pink Diamond? Steven? Stevonnie? (OK not Stevonnie, but wouldn't that be a surprise?)

      I still kind of think that he was really talking to her that time. She did not just poof out of thin air like the other projections; she was magically formed from the clouds. If that really was her, she probably acted the way she did in the beginning because she wanted to be what Steven hoped she would be like, and when he confronts her about her secrets, she becomes more genuine. I just don't want to think that she was a figment of Steven's imagination.

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    • Well, if it really was a small piece of herself she had the room store Steven should go talk to her again

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    • MissFitt wrote:

      I doRonaldo Smith wrote:
      Mudkip57430Cool wrote:
      DianaofParadiseIsland wrote:
      You guys think Steven will ever talk to his mother for real
      Did you watch Lion 3?
      I'm wondering if it might be possible to use Rose's Room to do this.

      The Room seems to have some ability to read Steven's mind and anticipate what he wants, though it does sometimes misunderstand him. I would assume that it could read Rose's mind too.

      Rose is trapped in the Gem in Steven's belly, but maybe there might be a way to amplify the Room's mind reading ability so that it could read Rose's mind even though she is in the Gem, then have Holo Rose say what real Rose is thinking.

      If the crewniverse wants to allow such a thing then this would be one way to allow Steven to talk to Rose for real.



      OH, OH, New thought!!!

      Could Steven learn the power Pearl has to place other people into her Gem?

      Could Steven then put Pearl into his Gem? Who would Pearl then find in there? Rose? Pink Diamond? Steven? Stevonnie? (OK not Stevonnie, but wouldn't that be a surprise?)

      I still kind of think that he was really talking to her that time. She did not just poof out of thin air like the other projections; she was magically formed from the clouds. If that really was her, she probably acted the way she did in the beginning because she wanted to be what Steven hoped she would be like, and when he confronts her about her secrets, she becomes more genuine. I just don't want to think that she was a figment of Steven's imagination.

      I like what your saying, and I don't want to think that the cloud Rose was a figment of Steven's Imagination, but he doesn't really know enough about her to be able to imagine her. At that point he only really knew what she looked like and what (everyone thought) she did. He only has her legacy, and as this episode shows, anything that we assume could be completely wrong. Also, check out my blog.

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    • Queen Lapis wrote: Did anyone die when they saw this?

      Yes

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    • I wonder how Amethyst is going to react, Garnet and Pearl were Pink's sisters but Amethyst was like her daughter. It is kinda sweet though how Pink told her, "You can be anything you want to be." Now considering this episode

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    • Watch the new promo

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    • AquaticPanic wrote:

      Rose isnt real

      Mood

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    • This explains why Steven is almost overpowered (floating, healing spit, etc)

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    • Think about how Garnet had to convince the Off Colors that Rose was real. Now someone will have to explain to them that she wasn't real after all.

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    • Ronaldo Smith wrote:
      Yoshimickster wrote:
      Can we talk about how Rose just straight up ABANDONED the humans she abducted? Think about it, the original humans DIED on that ship far from home, and their descendants evolved into complacent sheeple!
      I think the zoo was her back up plan to save what she could of Earth's life in case her plans to stop the destruction of Earth failed.

      I WANT to believe that, but part of me feels they were just pets to her...that she forgot about. Think about it, the third time she met Greg she said "I'd like to play with you" as if he were just some dumb animal!

      The Last Horizon wrote:
      If you 'love humans' you shouldn't lock them up and make them completely oblivious to the outside world.

      Agreed, especially since the FIRST humans she abducted most likely died realizing they could never go home. And let's get real here, their descendants HAVE to have some unseen health problems living on an alien environment.

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    • Yoshimickster wrote:
      Agreed, especially since the FIRST humans she abducted most likely died realizing they could never go home. And let's get real here, their descendants HAVE to have some unseen health problems living on an alien environment.

      Inbreeding in a small population would probably cause more problems for them than living in an alien environ.

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    • Does this make blue and yellow his aunts or more like his grandparents...

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    • Ronaldo Smith wrote:
      Yoshimickster wrote:
      Agreed, especially since the FIRST humans she abducted most likely died realizing they could never go home. And let's get real here, their descendants HAVE to have some unseen health problems living on an alien environment.
      Inbreeding in a small population would probably cause more problems for them than living in an alien environ.

      My point exactly, there's theoretically NO WAY those zoomans could survive on Earth.

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    • Yoshimickster wrote: I WANT to believe that, but part of me feels they were just pets to her...that she forgot about. Think about it, the third time she met Greg she said "I'd like to play with you" as if he were just some dumb animal!

      The real kicker is when she said this:

      When a Gem is made, it's for a reason. They burst out of the ground already knowing what they're supposed to be, and then... that's what they are. Forever. But you, you're supposed to change. You're never the same even moment to moment -- you're allowed and expected to invent who you are. What an incredible power -- the ability to "grow up." And how exactly is that working out for the Zoo inhabitants?

      Agreed, especially since the FIRST humans she abducted most likely died realizing they could never go home. 

      Holly Blue Agate said humans don't take well to captivity, until you satisfy their [basic] needs.  There is no question that the first humans were neither cared for properly nor did they consent to their "rehabilitation".

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    • Femslash-addict wrote:

      God, its an entire micro-nation based on dehumanizing a sapient species, and then lulling their descendants into complacency....ALL STARTED BY THE LEADER OF THE CRYSTAL GEMS-who had NO PLAN for freeing them from Homeworld's grasp! 

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    • Is it me or is Pink double the height of Rose?

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    • Poor Pink Diamond. people are hating on her now..

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    • I will wait. I mean there still needs to be a reason for all this. One main reason 

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    • Periclod104 wrote:
      Poor Pink Diamond. people are hating on her now..

      To be FAIR-she kinda deserves it. Pretty much everything that went wrong  in the show is because of her. 

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    • Wish this episode was longer tbh, god I loved it. Yes the big reveal, but seeing Pearl (my favorite <3) with all her layers as a character was great. Watched it twice within an hour :P

      Strangely enough, I ended up liking Rose a lot because of this episode. Didn't like how the gems idolized her because she wasn't all that. But this twist. THIS TWIST. She became way more interesting as a character, imo.

      I don't want to get my hopes up, but I don't think it was intended for Rose to be the kind of character to dump all her nonsense on her son without a second thought. I think she was the first to break the status quo and made many mistakes in the process, but ultimately set the wheels in motion for things to get better (end colonization, free gems from strict classes, spread the love, etc). The stuff about gems dying for a meaningless cause - I'd be pretty disappointed if the writers don't come up with something to explain why Rose would lead a double life at the expense of other gems. I do think she's the kind of character to do what she wants, for better or worse (wasn't that talked about in an earlier episode?) and the fact that she was Pink Diamond all along makes it so she actually is the complete opposite of what everyone besides Pearl made her out to be, which kind of eliminates the reason I disliked her in the first place.

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    • So if I'm reading this right this means that anything that is portrayed with those shadow puppets seen in "The Answer" and "Your Mother and Mine" are either lies or biased views.  So does that mean that the Gems that said their disdain for Ruby and Sapphire fusing out loud didn't actually say that...? I'm confused now, becuase the only ones who were portrayed with normal character models were the Rubies, Sapphire, Blue Pearl and Blue Diamond, so does that means that they were the only parts of the story that were true or what...?

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      I'm surprised Sapphire's the one reacting like this, usually it's Ruby who'd be mad over a lie. Of course it may relate back to finding out about Bismuth, Ruby might've accepted it after a while but Sapphire might've bottled her feelings until now.

      I also feel like that the also talk about  Ruby Diamond  "Pink Diamond ". Who she thought that did not care about her and was evil is now the best Diamond  she ever has.

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    • As unexpected a twist as this was, I do agree it adds to complexity to Rose/Pink. It shows that she was not this Mary Sue that the Crystal Gems made her out to be. I also agree that she made a lot of mistakes, and many of her actions had negative, unforseen consequences, with many loose ends in between, but she did have good intentions. This all illustrates how much she has grown as a person, starting out as this bratty, juvenile character (I still have a hard time imagining that tantrum with Rose's voice) into a wise, caring, compassionate leader who would ultimately give her life to bring another (who she knew could be better than she ever was) into existence.

      The Crewniverse can be SO misleading with their comments, but hey, anything to prevent a spoiler ([clearing throat], CN), right? I wonder if Ronaldo predicted this in any way? Either way, Steven probably would have never found this out if it wasn't for Ronaldo finding the barn on the moon.

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    • "That's not a Rose Quartz gem. It's more of a pinkish-red."

      Eyeball was right

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    •  It shows that she was not this Mary Sue that the Crystal Gems made her out to be.

      She was never the Mary Sue the Crystal Gems made her out to be.  Since we discovered what happened with Bismuth, fans were reluctant to give her almighty praise.  But now that she is a Diamond it's even worse because she was the one who encouraged Bismuth to fight to free herself from Homeworld's oppression, then essentially locked her up indefinitely in a bubble, neither revealing the truth to her nor her fate to the other Crystal Gems: not even Pearl.  If that isn't oppression, I don't know what is.

      This revelation also means she was on both sides of the war, so really, just how much risk were the Crystal Gems taking?  She was manipulating Gems on both sides to achieve her goals, and wasn't honest about it.  Jasper is an even more tragic case, since she thought fighting for Homeworld was what her Diamond wanted.  And my heart bleeds for Blue Diamond, who kept all of Pink's belongings, including the Gems and humans around in her honor, when Pink doesn't even care about her either.  She either played a cruel trick on the melancholic matriarch, or she basically gambled the fate of the organics and Gems she claimed she was so passionate about.

      I admired Rose Quartz because I thought she was fighting tooth and nail to achieve her ends; it was almost altruistic.  I thought she had nothing but her interest toward organic beings, when in reality, she emerged with a silver spoon in her mouth.  If the "simple Earth Quartz" had to step on few feet to get where she did, I was willing to pardon it since she didn't have the resources to do so more compassionately; that's hardly true now.

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    • I know she was no Mary Sue. I was referring to how the Crystal Gems depicted her to Steven in the beginning as this morally flawless individual, until he and we get all the revelations that showed her in a different light.

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    • Femslash-addict wrote:
      Yoshimickster wrote: I WANT to believe that, but part of me feels they were just pets to her...that she forgot about. Think about it, the third time she met Greg she said "I'd like to play with you" as if he were just some dumb animal!
      The real kicker is when she said this:

      When a Gem is made, it's for a reason. They burst out of the ground already knowing what they're supposed to be, and then... that's what they are. Forever. But you, you're supposed to change. You're never the same even moment to moment -- you're allowed and expected to invent who you are. What an incredible power -- the ability to "grow up." And how exactly is that working out for the Zoo inhabitants?

      Realising that about humans could've happened after the zoo was created, in the event of that not being the case it's possible she thought it was something intrinsic for humans rather than something requiring stimulation.

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    • Hmm I was trying to figure out what could've foreshadowed this reveal from Ronaldo's end. First piece is this, "Much like Koala Princess’ vision in the Eucalyptus Jungle in Season 5, Episode 13 what you saw on the Boardwalk the other day was not what it seemed". In Your Mother and Mine there wasn't a vision but Garnet's story wasn't as it seemed.

      Then in another post, "Dogcopter dies defending the planet but then he comes back to life because he’s actually part cat and cats have 9 lives.  Anyway, the movie was pretty much ruined.  So now I’m back.  Spoilers are the worst". That's all I could find for now

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    • Femslash-addict wrote:And my heart bleeds for Blue Diamond, who kept all of Pink's belongings, including the Gems and humans around in her honor, when Pink doesn't even care about her either. 

      Really? The way I see it, Blue and Yellow have done exactly what Pink did, colonize, enslave, kill, all on a grander scale and without a second thought. Blue is seen lecturing Pink to embrace her status as a diamond and to take charge of her colony. Her bubbling of the Rose Quartz gems is because she hates the fact it was a rose quartz who shattered Pink (the general story, anyway), and only keeps them around not because it's wrong to shatter gems but because they were Pink's creation. She's just as cruel and more. Blue certainly seems more complex as a result of her grief, and I can totally see a world where she comes around to see the Homeworld method to be bad, but I feel it's a little strange to sympathize with Blue and not Pink? IDK

      It's also a stretch to say Pink didn't care about her - there's obviously a lot we didn't know and still don't about Pink herself. Rose shouldered a burden of keeping so many things a secret, not that it was the best way of handling things. She should have told the other Crystal Gems about Bizmuth. But Bizmuth was better off bubbled, as seen with Steven. Their ideologies clashed too much, and frankly, Bizmuth was completely wrong in wanting to create weapons to shatter gems. Personally, I'm hoping once everything smooths over (and why wouldn't it? It's a children's show), Bizmuth will be released and see the error of her ways because the happy end was achieved without her level of violence.

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    • LoveSeal990 wrote:
      So Pink Diamond = Rose Quartz...



      HOW THE HECK WAS SHE (in the form of Rose) ABLE TO STAY IN THAT FORM FOR SO LONG?!

      I know, right? Diamonds must be pretty powerful....

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    • M reformed as Rose but we don’t know too much about the Diamonds. Also what’s Pink’s role in corruption? We know she tried to heal the corrupted gems. Pink seems not responsible for the Zoo. She probably wanted something different. Seeing how pearl said they wanted to go back to the zoo.

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    • I think pink diamond may have honestly fell in love with earth, it kinda explains the human zoo. Maybe that was the only way that pink could think to save the people she started caring about as a child. I mean, not cool to leave them there, but at this point shes kinda... done worse than that lol

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    • How do you guys think Peridot's going to react to this revalation?

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      How do you guys think Peridot's going to react to this revalation?

      I imagine the same as the rest.  "Aw man, here I thought I was done serving a Diamond..."

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote: How do you guys think Peridot's going to react to this revalation?

      Probably freak out and keep a distance from Steven for a few days.

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    • Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      How do you guys think Peridot's going to react to this revalation?

      First, her head will explode. (Literally)

      After she regenerates she will have Pink Diamonds on her outfit instead of Yellow ones, and she will totally worship Steven, as she used to do Yellow.

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    • Ronaldo Smith wrote:
      Steven Bomb 17 wrote:
      How do you guys think Peridot's going to react to this revalation?
      First, her head will explode. (Literally)

      After she regenerates she will have Pink Diamonds on her outfit instead of Yellow ones, and she will totally worship Steven, as she used to do Yellow.

      XD is it bad that part of me wants this to happen?

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