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  • ThePK
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    03:59, May 1, 2015

    Everyone look at ourselves, we were once a good and happy wiki but now we have a new drama related problem every single day. I don't know about you guys but I'm getting so sick and tired of all of this pesky fighting. That is the reason why I want us all of drop all of this fighting right now because not only are a number of the staff members getting annoyed but so am I. I used to like coming on here but now I can't log on or go onto chat without someone reporting a problem to me, seriously this has gone too far. 

    Now I don't want to hear people blaming each other because in one way or another this is everyone's fault. Instead of fighting about what has caused this why don't we work towards trying to fix it? 

    I am very happy with the progress that this wiki has made I mean hitting 1 million plus views is a great acomplishment along with making it to 1 on the TV WAM score and 7 on the WAM score for every wiki. However with new users mean that changes have to be made and our staff needs to get a great deal more mature with situations and their handling. You see guys I don't want to lose or anger any users in any possible way but I can't take any more of this stupid fighting at all.

    So how about we bury the hatchet and let our actions as users speak for themselves rather then past differences or opinions? I really like our community here and I'm glad that over 2 years ago I founded this place but i just can't let it get lost in fighting between users. So how about we, as staff and regular users, just follow the rules, be mature, and have those in charge play it fairly and enforce the rules?

    I honestly don't know how much more of this pointless fighting I can take so either we'd have to make nice and accept it or I either leave or me and the other staff members start taking further action.

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    • I agree it has to stop!

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    • I agree 100%, Killer. Hopefully everyone else will agree and comply too!

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    • I second that!

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    • Symbol support vote Support, I'm getting really confused from this fighting

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    • Take a nice break then, Killer365. ;-) See you again soon, my friend.

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    • Agreed I am sick of this. I never really knew of the Wiki in the beginning stages since in joined in mid 2014 but from what I heard it was much better.

      I am willing to propose a temporary strict order (sort of like martial law). What I am saying is that TEMPORARILY the burros and admins would decide wiki positions, TEMPORARILY blocks would only be given by bueros and those given would be very strict, TEMPORARILY have very harsh punishments to admins or bueros who give faulty blocks, TEMPORARILY block New user edits on all pages, etc. Obviously this is a proposal but it might make the Wiki be better.

      Or an even better proposal would be to have admins and bueros look over every position for all staff users together.

      Again I will be back officially tomorrow so I will try to be more active on the community.

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    • I give kudos to your message Killer

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    • I thought of it more as debating, rather than "fighting". But I suppose you're right.

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    • Personally, I never saw any fighting on this wiki.

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    • Epicz010 wrote: Personally, I never saw any fighting on this wiki.

      Well, it seems that you are fairly new to the wiki, you just missed some of the craziness that happened recently.

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    • That's EXACTLY what I was thinking. This is the wiki for one of the best things ever, and look what it's become. When I was first here, when I first saw you and PiA, I thought this was awesome. The entire purpose of this wiki is for SU fans to get together and have a good time. With all my requirements met to be a chat mod, I think "do I want to? Is it worth the dealing with?" This is a SU wiki, and we need to get our stuff right.

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    • Yeah i've only been here for 5 days but i've already made over 40 edits so I spend more time on here than I care to admit lol

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    • Running a wiki for a kids show is srs busins.

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    • lol

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    • Btw @LarsMars what happened recently?

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    • Epicz010 wrote: Btw @LarsMars what happened recently?

      Please don't make me recap the events, its better not to bring them up again. I hope you understand :)

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    • LarsMars wrote:

      Epicz010 wrote: Btw @LarsMars what happened recently?

      Please don't make me recap the events, its better not to bring them up again. I hope you understand :)

      My opinion should sum up why.

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    • I so agree with Killer. Because not only he and others are sick of all this fighting and drama. I'm very sick of it too. And I hope that all of this badstorm will end very soon. Because I want peace, and this wiki to be friendly place to stay, It's not only me who wants that, everybody else too. And I look forward to it to happen.

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    • I really agree with this. I think i can't count how many drama problem we had since I've joined, ¡And I joined this year!. It must stop.

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    • What drama? Just curious...

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    • @Epicz Alot of Drama happens, so it is hard to pick, and i am not going to say because that would be blaming a person, but i completely agree with Killer365, because all this drama over nothing needs to stop.

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    • it's ok, I understand an I agree as well. Rebecca Sugar would hate to see SU fans fighting, the whole tv show conveys a message of support and acceptance for others.

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    • Supersonic2013 wrote:
      That's EXACTLY what I was thinking. This is the wiki for one of the best things ever, and look what it's become. When I was first here, when I first saw you and PiA, I thought this was awesome. The entire purpose of this wiki is for SU fans to get together and have a good time. With all my requirements met to be a chat mod, I think "do I want to? Is it worth the dealing with?" This is a SU wiki, and we need to get our stuff right.

      Because that's why we're all here, to be wild, and free.

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    • Supersonic2013 wrote:
      Supersonic2013 wrote:
      That's EXACTLY what I was thinking. This is the wiki for one of the best things ever, and look what it's become. When I was first here, when I first saw you and PiA, I thought this was awesome. The entire purpose of this wiki is for SU fans to get together and have a good time. With all my requirements met to be a chat mod, I think "do I want to? Is it worth the dealing with?" This is a SU wiki, and we need to get our stuff right.
      Because that's why we're all here, to be wild, and free.

      So can't we just have this? Can't we just...edit?

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    • All you wikia users who fight should be ashamed! Killer365 takes the time to go on this wiki to make sure everyone is doing the right thing on the wiki. I don't know what y'all might be fighting about, but I DO KNOW that Killer is sick of it, other wiki users are sick of it, I am sick of it, everyone is sick of it!!! I think that fighting is VERY disrespectful to Killer365, if you ask me. She/he (sorry Killer!!!) is the FOUNDER of this wiki we are fortunate to have, and we all need to respect that, whether you are users who always fight or not. I want to go on a wiki and for once NOT see users fight and argue about dumb things on the wiki which, half of the time,is not even about Steven U. I am a person who respects what Killer does for this wiki,and some users (not all of them,just the ones who fight. The ones who don't fight should already respect him/her) should respect Killer,too. And it is not JUST Killer I respect, i respect ALL people who go out of their way on this wiki,like Superluigi6 and others. I agree it DEFINITELY needs to stop!!! You are SOOO welcome, Killer!!! P.S. you are my friend on this wiki!!!

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    • Tbh I have not noticed much drama on here, but then again I don't really associate with many people when on here so i've probably missed it and I am happy I did. But if pointless drama is a problem on here then I want it to stop at once, there's nothing more annoying then people picking lame fights over the internet or starting crap just to irk other peoples nerves, its childish and a waste of time.

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    • BlackZircon wrote:
      Tbh I have not noticed much drama on here, but then again I don't really associate with many people when on here so i've probably missed it and I am happy I did. But if pointless drama is a problem on here then I want it to stop at once, there's nothing more annoying then people picking lame fights over the internet or starting crap just to irk other peoples nerves, its childish and a waste of time.

      I know. I try to avoid fights on here the best I can,too! WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG AND STOP FIGHTING?!?! I mean for real!!!

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    • Amethyst Purple Puma wrote:
      BlackZircon wrote:
      Tbh I have not noticed much drama on here, but then again I don't really associate with many people when on here so i've probably missed it and I am happy I did. But if pointless drama is a problem on here then I want it to stop at once, there's nothing more annoying then people picking lame fights over the internet or starting crap just to irk other peoples nerves, its childish and a waste of time.
      I know. I try to avoid fights on here the best I can,too! WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG AND STOP FIGHTING?!?! I mean for real!!!


      Because some people think the only way to get attention is to be a nuisance.

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    • BlackZircon wrote:
      Supersonic2013 wrote:
      Supersonic2013 wrote:
      That's EXACTLY what I was thinking. This is the wiki for one of the best things ever, and look what it's become. When I was first here, when I first saw you and PiA, I thought this was awesome. The entire purpose of this wiki is for SU fans to get together and have a good time. With all my requirements met to be a chat mod, I think "do I want to? Is it worth the dealing with?" This is a SU wiki, and we need to get our stuff right.
      Because that's why we're all here, to be wild, and free.
      So can't we just have this? Can't we just...edit?

      Well, yes... but how is it a TRUE community if we can't just hang out and have fun?

      Because right now, it feels like their trying to snipe killer with a T-Shirt cannon.

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    • There's almost no reason to fight on here. We all have our own favorites, theories and posts that make us who we are. We should respect each other's ideas and feelings and socialize as a healthy wiki community should. If you reach an impass with another person always be the bigger person and agree to disagree politely and leave it at that. Kudos to KIller.

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    • AGREED AND APPROVED BY ME.IT IS 100% GOOD AND TRUE.
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    • It is very sad how people want attention so they argue about nonsense stuff! I already have to deal with my little brother fighting with me, so I come on to this wiki to relax and take time to get away from worries and stress. Not to see users fight about useless things!!!

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    • Epicz010 wrote: There's almost no reason to fight on here. We all have our own favorites, theories and posts that make us who we are. We should respect each other's ideas and feelings and socialize as a healthy wiki community should. If you reach an impass with another person always be the bigger person and agree to disagree politely and leave it at that. Kudos to KIller.

      Preach it, Epicz! Very well stated.

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    • Amethyst Purple Puma wrote:
      It is very sad how people want attention so they argue about nonsense stuff! I already have to deal with my little brother fighting with me, so I come on to this wiki to relax and take time to get away from worries and stress. Not to see users fight about useless things!!!

      I feel ya, I get  on here & the internet in general for the exact same reason, to escape the stressors of life.

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    • See,THIS is why all you users are my friends. You don't like fights on here, we all share a love for Steven Universe, and most importantly, we all try are best to be friends and become good friends with Killer365, Superluigi6, and all the users!!! YOU, BlackZircon, are my friend,too!!!

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    • Amethyst Purple Puma wrote:
      See,THIS is why all you users are my friends. You don't like fights on here, we all share a love for Steven Universe, and most importantly, we all try are best to be friends and become good friends with Killer365, Superluigi6, and all the users!!! YOU, BlackZircon, are my friend,too!!!


      Oh,,, well uh thanks^^

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    • Yeah I don't hate anyone here, i like every user I've spoken to, however my favorites are awesome peridot and genome.

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    • I didn't really think of it as fighting, more-so debating. But maybe there is some fighting going on that I can't see. I have seen a few fights with a certain green gem involved, though. (sorry)

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    • Don't know what's going on, but you got it!

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    • I basically ignore the existence of other members except for fan theorists, so that's fine by me.

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    • I don't wanna start naming people, but just pick better staff next time, alright?

      And the how you pick staff probably needs improvement.

      It all started there, actually.

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    • Dioptase wrote:
      I basically ignore the existence of other members except for fan theorists, so that's fine by me.

      Same but for the reference page.

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    • Humanity have a tendency to self-destructy, begins with a problem or a mistake,then boom,everyone is hurt. (my grammar is ok ?)

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    • Eh this Wiki is doing fine dude. Look, in-fighting is always going to be a problem, its just a major factor of having a median age of like 15. I believe I once put up an Age poll that proved we have mostly young teens as users and from that I've gathered that the aggregate maturity is going to be a little lower than we'd like. But don't let these petty fights bog down your mind.

      If someone hits you up with a "problem" tell them to run it by and Admin first and only consult you if a major breach of the rules is found by existing staff. The rules exist for a reason, if someone breaks them than actions should be taken by Admins first, not Bureaus, if its a big problem, only then should it be elevated.

      I remember that one time when that one staffer from the Tomagachi wiki was found for spamming up that wiki months prior and somebody brought up the case to have him dismissed here for it. I mean that whole ordeal was just ridiculous, he never broke any of our rules but we're acting like his position in the wiki was so critical that its a spot that needed to be vetted like a political office or something. We have rules, let's use them, if someone breaks them, let's enforce punishments, if they don't, get over it or settle matters privately.

      But for the love of God, let's not make every. single. problem. A MASSIVE ordeal that needs to get blown up and consulted by the entire community. Like, this is why ADMINS exist. If we had a functioning staff that communicated and worked together, than regular users could go about their business while STAFF regulate themselves as well as the others. We gotta stop letting this come down to "voting" I'm all for democracy, I was a huuuge supporter of the Voting board when it first went live but sometimes you gotta let staff use their power or else we're going to be voting every single day for trivial matters that reg. users aren't well equipped to actually vote intelligently on. I believe that is why America has a democratic Republic and not a full-bown democracy. Representatives exist for a reason, staff exist for a reason.

      I dunno how "bad" things have gotten since I left my spot as Admin but come on, overall this wiki has made leaps and bounds. As its founder, you gotta feel proud of that. Remember that leaders have a huge influence on their followers, your mood affects your staffs mood so your title of "I'm sick of this" comes off as both bitter and defeated. Your letting the little things keep you from seeing the bigger picture.

      Get your current Admin to do their damn job or find somebody who can, they should be dealing with these "fights" and putting their feet down. You got bigger problems to deal with, like running the overall wiki. The biggest problem I ran into was that other Admins wouldn't exercise their power enough, they'd always consult someone higher like they were afraid of banning anyone or stepping on toes. I know there's a lot of super dedicated users that would do this wiki proud, I suggest you open up a few more Admin positions and promote the most mature and dedicated among them to keep this a fair, fact based, fight-free wiki.

      Anyways, just my two cents on the matter, if you take nothing else away from this, just remember that the fighting is a minor part and for every fight there's a dozen cheerful and well thought out conversations. Keep it happy :D

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    • Yeah, some people are right. Some people are debating. But some people fight in the debates. And some fights are just really frustrating. And some fights just make you rage.

      Also, Adagio, you made my morning. :P

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    • I made a long proposal above worth reading, maybe we could do that.

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    • This post has literly made my morning.  I completely want the fighitng to end.  However, I dont want the debates to end.  Debates are fun but there needs to be a point when it goes from debate to fighting and thats where it needs to stop, but if everything is calm in the debates they should go on.

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    • Forgive me Killer I had failed to carry out my duties as buro and hence probably failed everyone as well, I want to come back and help regain peace so that the community and the wikia would be a happy place once more where people can get to interact with other SU fans as well as contribute to wiki. Please I understand your frustration and would like to help with anything.

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    • Yes, i agree. Steven Universe is a great show so it deserves to have a great wiki.

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    • This post must stay forever. This wiki has been full of drama (take that from someone who has only been here 1 month). 

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    • But yet biased opinions happened and i get blamed for everything honest im done tired of this fighting as well.I feel as in I earned my buro spot fairly and the whole vote was biased and I'm demanding a recount and a fair pole to only those who know the situation not just random users who agree with the staff I've done to much for the wiki to let this go and yeah killer and luigi im demanding this.You know that entire pole was freaking biased and unfair but yet you let it go.I earned that buro spot fair and square I remade the templates and the freaking css how many people can do that oh yeah none of the staff could.So give me back what I earned and do the freaking revote because this is unfair and im NOT STANDING FOR IT.

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    • Peridot The Techtition wrote: But yet biased opinions happened and i get blamed for everything honest im done tired of this fighting as well.I feel as in I earned my buro spot fairly and the whole vote was biased and I'm demanding a recount and a fair pole to only those who know the situation not just random users who agree with the staff I've done to much for the wiki to let this go and yeah killer and luigi im demanding this.You know that entire pole was freaking biased and unfair but yet you let it go.I earned that buro spot fair and square I remade the templates and the freaking css how many people can do that oh yeah none of the staff could.So give me back what I earned and do the freaking revote because this is unfair and im NOT STANDING FOR IT.

      Oh great, more drama.

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    • Ok, whoa. Peridot, your demotion forum was as fair as it could be.

      1. Plenty of Staff have significant CSS knowledge

      2. Most users feel you didn't earn it fairly, and most expressed their desire for you not to keep the position- http://steven-universe.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:83297

      3. We are trying to stop fighting, not start it again. Please be a pleasant and mature member of the community.

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    • Peridot.. I suggest you leave this place right now. We are done with your childish act and being power hungry just because you want evil to people. You ban innocent people along with your dear friend Bill Cipher, who you promoted to be your power source incase you lose your buro place, after you lost it, you asked Bill to ban me for your own personal false reason. Not only I'm sick of your actions, but others are as well. Deal with the fact that you lost your buro fairly after all trouble you have done to us, especially me. Your hatred, arrogance and attitude will not be tolerated here.

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    • Xeon I agree with you 100% I just wish Peridot wouldn't complain SHE DEMOTED HERSELF why is she mad she said she didn't care!

      Also this is her own words

      I'll just take the demotion you guys can do whatever you want with me I don't even care anymore.I don't care what I've done for the place I don't care about nothing that happens to me. Apprantly I cannot be Strong in the Real Way. http://steven-universe.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:83297#209


      Bbcp

      Get ready for an insane fight over the mods

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    • How about we stop this argument on this "Peaceful" page right here, Killer is already stressed out lets not make him more stress than he already is. 

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    • Peridot, we're ALL biased, your biased, I'm biased, it's called having an opinion @ the status of your demotion.

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    • Symbol strong support vote Strongly support Look at us, we became feral animals! This bull needs to stop, LETS QUIT DEMOTING USERS!
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    • I agree to this 157%

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    • Peridot The Techtition wrote:
      But yet biased opinions happened and i get blamed for everything honest im done tired of this fighting as well.I feel as in I earned my buro spot fairly and the whole vote was biased and I'm demanding a recount and a fair pole to only those who know the situation not just random users who agree with the staff I've done to much for the wiki to let this go and yeah killer and luigi im demanding this.You know that entire pole was freaking biased and unfair but yet you let it go.I earned that buro spot fair and square I remade the templates and the freaking css how many people can do that oh yeah none of the staff could.So give me back what I earned and do the freaking revote because this is unfair and im NOT STANDING FOR IT.

      How was it biased?

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    • Also Peridot you are doing this for drama and attention. I will state this again of what you said:

      I'll just take the demotion you guys can do whatever you want with me I don't even care anymore.I don't care what I've done for the place I don't care about nothing that happens to me. Apprantly I cannot be Strong in the Real Way.|

      Ok now with this said it isnt unfair or in other words biased, You on the other hand are causing people stress and causing this whole fight to occur. You said you didn't care and that you demoted yourself, so stop complaining and except that you caused this problem and be happy you weren't banned, end of story.

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    • Yeah this is dumb the wiki has a huge community and don't think the drama will end anytime soon we need to do something.

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    • i have not been around to long but i have seen at lot of things get silly for almost no reason i agree that there is a problem but a solusion normal does not come easy

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    • Let's never fight again! *starts fighting*

      Isn't the reason Killer made this board to end fighting?

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    • Great idea! From now on let's all be super nice and welcoming and stuff. :)

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    • HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote: Great idea! From now on let's all be super nice and welcoming and stuff. :)

      Symbol support vote Support Nuff said.

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    • Thanks

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    • Dawnstar's Account wrote:
      Let's never fight again! *starts fighting*

      Isn't the reason Killer made this board to end fighting?

      Yes,it REALLY needs to stop. I consider Killer365 as a good friend and I know she/he is disappointed in the fighting users. I think we ALL she be disappointed in the fighting users. We go on this wiki and we become friends with users, but we can't be friends if we are fighting. PLEASE TAKE A STAND AND DO SOMETHING!!! SOMEBODY!!! ANYBODY!!!

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    • If we could all chat over smoothies or something... but then again, that would be like, 1,000,000 people. Gosh am I proud of this wiki!

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    • *bans fighting forever*

      There.

      (I wish that'd happen. D:)

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    • World peace. One wiki at a time. :)

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    • (little random support sign) support :p

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    • Great! Now we just gotta figure out how to fit 3030 people in a coffee shop... ;)

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    • We can use some kind of teleporter. Do you have any?!

      (I just made an account today, but I have hung around as a contributor. I never actually posted as one, though...

      These fights can get really annoying. I think they should just stay as debates.)

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    • I have no idea, but great! :) We will need to make arrangements for food too. How about for soup, some chicken noodle, and vegetarians can have tomato. For salads, how about just soup? We can make some potatoes and a gem food, with cake for dessert. Or an ice cream bar. :)

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    • I agree. This place has became a disaster. I barely log on here now, and i think the chat is worser than overall.

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    • What kind of desserts do you think we should have?

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      Edit: This is trolling me, now. BAN MY COMPUTER!!!

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    • This is a relly fun place, but yeah it is gonna be shut down if the fighting doesnt stop.

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    • So true.

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    • I love this place sooo much. But people are starting to ruin the fun, for all of us.

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    • That is last thing that these users want!!! Nobody would want that!!! Anything but that!!!

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    • Superluigi6 wrote:
      Agreed I am sick of this. I never really knew of the Wiki in the beginning stages since in joined in mid 2014 but from what I heard it was much better.

      I am willing to propose a temporary strict order (sort of like martial law). What I am saying is that TEMPORARILY the burros and admins would decide wiki positions, TEMPORARILY blocks would only be given by bueros and those given would be very strict, TEMPORARILY have very harsh punishments to admins or bueros who give faulty blocks, TEMPORARILY block New user edits on all pages, etc. Obviously this is a proposal but it might make the Wiki be better.

      Or an even better proposal would be to have admins and bueros look over every position for all staff users together.

      Again I will be back officially tomorrow so I will try to be more active on the community.

      I second this.  This fighting has gone out of hand and it needs to stop.  In my opinion, there needs to be an overall Code of Conduct for the wiki (e.g. don't start a fight out of things that clearly mean something else; don't let a fight drag out, when people say stop, don't say anything more)

      DON'T HATE, GUYS. We need to stop or everything we've worked for will collapse.

      I Symbol strong support vote Strongly support this.

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    • Eh, it happens. We have a growing community which invites people of all shapes and sizes. There's gonna be disagreements, there's gonna be fights, there's gonna be drama. The only real solution would be to pass out bans like candy and that's not really a solution.

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    • Ha replies being removed XD

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    • Symbol strong support vote Strongly support The wiki is different from when I joined the wiki. Conflicts, vandalism, trolling, and more things are happening on this wiki.

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    • (Well, what a waste of time, trying to cheer everyone up. XD

      But still, we need to keep this wiki argument-free!)

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    • Being staff on a wiki for a kids show is SRS BSNS

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    • CasaBlacka wrote: Being staff on a wiki for a kids show is SRS BSNS

      Yes, it must be taken SRSLY

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    • Everyone look at ourselves, we were once a good and happy wiki but now we have a new drama related problem every single day. I don't know about you guys but I'm getting so sick and tired of all of this pesky fighting. That is the reason why I want us all of drop all of this fighting right now because not only are a number of the staff members getting annoyed but so am I.


      Oh wow, I didn't know that there's a lot of drama in this wiki. That's probably because I don't come here often and I don't pay attention to it.

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    • OmNomNomGirl92 wrote: Everyone look at ourselves, we were once a good and happy wiki but now we have a new drama related problem every single day. I don't know about you guys but I'm getting so sick and tired of all of this pesky fighting. That is the reason why I want us all of drop all of this fighting right now because not only are a number of the staff members getting annoyed but so am I.


      Oh wow, I didn't know that there's a lot of drama in this wiki. That's probably because I don't come here often and I don't pay attention to it.

      ...:|

      (Was that sarcasm?)

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    • CasaBlacka wrote:

      Running a wiki for a kids show is srs busins.


      So srs m8


       


        But seriously, I'm ok with DISCUSSION.  But what happened when the Ruby and Sapphire threads came up was bad.  Slefish people wanting their own selfish ways and picking fights to get attention.

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    • I have a solution to all the fighting!

      It is well thought-out and everything.





      We stop fighting

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    • LightTopazTheGem wrote:
      I have a solution to all the fighting!

      It is well thought-out and everything.





      We stop fighting

      Sounds great on paper, but is kind of hard to do in practice.

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    • I agree!

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    • Judgekoo wrote:

      LightTopazTheGem wrote:
      I have a solution to all the fighting!

      It is well thought-out and everything.





      We stop fighting

      I'll bring my own version to this.

      I have a solution to all the dying!

      It's well though out and everything.




      We stop dying.


      Do you now see your flaw? XD
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    • Excuse me, Master Killer, but as a Chat Mod, I want to ask you about the chat rules. Some people hasn't been following correctly the chat rules, and being nervous and negligent  about me correcting hi-- I mean, them. Then a fight starts. How can we prevent this? (Also, I can't read your words withoutr Terra's voice lol)

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    • People are people.

      Why do you think wars still happen?

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    • TheBoomerCow wrote: People are people.

      Why do you think wars still happen?

      Yeah, I agree that people are people, but the thing is, these days wars can start from things as little as an apple.

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    • ^one country likes green apples, the other likes yellow. War started.:(

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    • You can compromise with blue apples. Or red

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    • HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote: You can compromise with blue apples. Or red

      It's not that easy to compromise. The thing that we have to do is respect other people's opinions and not let it get to us. No matter how much we dislike it. Not all people are the same.

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    • Ravenandrobin:) wrote:

      HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote: You can compromise with blue apples. Or red

      It's not that easy to compromise. The thing that we have to do is respect other people's opinions and not let it get to us. No matter how much we dislike it. Not all people are the same.

      (Exactly!)

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    • LarsMars wrote:

      Epicz010 wrote: There's almost no reason to fight on here. We all have our own favorites, theories and posts that make us who we are. We should respect each other's ideas and feelings and socialize as a healthy wiki community should. If you reach an impass with another person always be the bigger person and agree to disagree politely and leave it at that. Kudos to KIller.

      Preach it, Epicz! Very well stated.

      You go Epicz, preach! :D

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    • I can guarentee you this was caused by the roleplaying ban.

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    • It's the Snake People.

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    • I am Peridot wrote:

      OmNomNomGirl92 wrote: Everyone look at ourselves, we were once a good and happy wiki but now we have a new drama related problem every single day. I don't know about you guys but I'm getting so sick and tired of all of this pesky fighting. That is the reason why I want us all of drop all of this fighting right now because not only are a number of the staff members getting annoyed but so am I.


      Oh wow, I didn't know that there's a lot of drama in this wiki. That's probably because I don't come here often and I don't pay attention to it.

      ...:|

      (Was that sarcasm?)

      No, that wasn't sarcasm, I'm being serious. I wasn't aware of the drama that's happening in this site since I'm not always here and frankly, I don't care. I also don't go to the chat at all.

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    • just to clear some stuff up, 99% of the drama being reffered in this post is staff related and hardly anything else.

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    • SunnyRainyDays wrote:

      Judgekoo wrote:

      LightTopazTheGem wrote:
      I have a solution to all the fighting!

      It is well thought-out and everything.





      We stop fighting

      I'll bring my own version to this.

      I have a solution to all the dying!

      It's well though out and everything.




      We stop dying.


      Do you now see your flaw? XD


      It was a joke. Quit taking it too seriously. That is just more reasons for the drama here

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    • LightTopazTheGem wrote:

      SunnyRainyDays wrote:

      Judgekoo wrote:

      LightTopazTheGem wrote:
      I have a solution to all the fighting!

      It is well thought-out and everything.





      We stop fighting

      I'll bring my own version to this.

      I have a solution to all the dying!

      It's well though out and everything.




      We stop dying.


      Do you now see your flaw? XD


      It was a joke. Quit taking it too seriously. That is just more reasons for the drama here

      That's why I added the emoji XD, to not seem serious.

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    • Jaydom Studios wrote:
      I can guarentee you this was caused by the roleplaying ban.

      There was no roleplaying ban

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    • Where are the comments even going?

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    • Fudgecreep wrote:
      Where are the comments even going?

      Down the drain. :p

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    • Dam Sentinel wrote:
      Fudgecreep wrote:
      Where are the comments even going?
      Down the drain. :p

      into the sewer, to be filterd out

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    • Symbol support vote Support

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    • JinxBinx
      JinxBinx removed this reply because:
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      21:15, April 23, 2015
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    • I Support this!

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    • PikminKnight167 wrote:

      Jaydom Studios wrote:
      I can guarentee you this was caused by the roleplaying ban.

      There was no roleplaying ban

      (I doubt roleplaying was banned at all. Or did I miss something?)

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    • Peridot Roleplaying is only allowd in the RP chat or the PM's your not allowd to roleplay to a high exsint on the main chat

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    • SunnyRainyDays wrote:

      Judgekoo wrote:

      LightTopazTheGem wrote:
      I have a solution to all the fighting!

      It is well thought-out and everything.





      We stop fighting

      I'll bring my own version to this.

      I have a solution to all the dying!

      It's well though out and everything.




      We stop dying.


      Do you now see your flaw? XD


      This reminds me of my solution to world hunger and poverty: Stop being hungry and in poverty! It worked perfectly!

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    • This conversation is very long. How many days has it been?

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    • HarleyQuinnade9799 wrote:
      This conversation is very long. How many days has it been?

      Just 3 days ^.^

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    • How long will it last? History book long, or dystopian book long? Wait, those are technically the same sizes!

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    • GeneralObsanite wrote:
      Peridot Roleplaying is only allowd in the RP chat or the PM's your not allowd to roleplay to a high exsint on the main chat

      Roleplaying is allowed. Source: this and this.

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    • Roleplaying is allowed :/

      I don't know who said it wasn't :|

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    • Why da hell each time I come here there are bunch of forum posts slapped in my message box!? Its annoying and most of them arent "for all to know" information. Can you all just stop posting it for all, it just comes as spam mail at this point. 

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    • ^ Thank you for your valuable insight on the topic at hand. Your words will be deeply thought upon and engraved to inspire future generations. May Arceus bless your soul.

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    • Tesla Effect wrote:
      Why da hell each time I come here there are bunch of forum posts slapped in my message box!? Its annoying and most of them arent "for all to know" information. Can you all just stop posting it for all, it just comes as spam mail at this point. 

      If you scroll up to the main post/main thread then click on Following, it will unfollow the post for you so you won't receive notifications.

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    • Judgekoo wrote:

      LightTopazTheGem wrote:
      I have a solution to all the fighting!


      It is well thought-out and everything.



       



       



       



       



      We stop fighting



      Sounds great on paper, but is kind of hard to do in practice.



      Discussion is different from argueing, and we can't stop all arguements.  What if someone just had a really bad day and then did a ton of argueing?  They shouldn't be punished for it.  At extreme, definetly, but we shouldn't go and tag discussions as arguements.

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    • Superluigi6 wrote:
      Tesla Effect wrote:
      Why da hell each time I come here there are bunch of forum posts slapped in my message box!? Its annoying and most of them arent "for all to know" information. Can you all just stop posting it for all, it just comes as spam mail at this point. 
      If you scroll up to the main post/main thread then click on Following, it will unfollow the post for you so you won't receive notifications.

      There's also a mark all as read option in the notification box. We have a lot of notifications because this community has a lot of things to discuss about that could embetter the wiki. You are complaining for something easily fixed. We're sorry we inconvinieced you, your Highness.

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    • If you expect hundreds of people on the internet to all get along, then you're in for a TON of cat herding.

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    • I'm not expecting everyone to be best friends I just want all of this drama to end, you can still not like certain users just keep it to yourselves or in PM with people you're friends with and who possibly share your view. My only request is that we don't bring any of this drama out into the open where users can get hurt (ie bringing it into chat or messaging said user and saying how much you hate them). If I see any of that I'm going to take action upon it and if I see any screenshots expect me to question all users involved. I get that there will still be fighting and there's nothing I can really do to stop it for banning people for fighting is unjust but asking people to stop harassing each other unless they want trouble is fine.

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    • There are two things you need to maintain in a discussion:

      1) Don't offend others. Even if your idea is 180 degrees different from someone else's, it doesn't mean you should start s***ring!

      2) Say your idea in the best way you can. Don't accuse or directly oppose other's ideas. 

      Vandalizing is also something we mustn't do. It's like, adding too much salt to a soup. Fun is ok, but renaming "Jasper" to "Big Cheeto Puff", or changing "Peridot" to "Big Green Space Dorito"? It's like the graffiti of this wiki, and admins and buros are the police. 

      Peace upon all of you. V

      Zircon1381 (talk) 13:35, April 26, 2015 (UTC)

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    • I have to admit, those food-gems are pretty funny.

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    • I like trains.

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    • Killer365 wrote:

      you can still not like certain users just keep it to yourselves or in PM with people you're friends with and who possibly share your view. My only request is that we don't bring any of this drama out into the open where users can get hurt (ie bringing it into chat or messaging said user and saying how much you hate them).

      Again, you're expecting too much from people. I imagine a lot of the troublemakers are little kids or people with such a maturity level.

      Killer365 wrote:

      banning people for fighting is unjust but asking people to stop harassing each other unless they want trouble is fine.

      Giving people fair warning and temp banning them if they don't listen, and perma-banning if they repeat the offense too often isn't unjust. It's keeping things peaceful. Sometimes authority roles have to make tough choices. In an ideal world this wouldn't be needed, but the world is far from ideal.

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    • You know, this is a wiki were people can write their feelings about Steven U. If people want to express how they feel about SU, 99.9% of the time they will. Some people have the right to free speech, and believe me or not those people will SOMETIMES take advantage of that. People think that they can write whatever they want and aren't going to have rules. But they are wrong. We have a handful of people on here who can ban whoever they think deserve it because of what they write. Just because we have a right to free speech doesn't mean we can use it all the time. Curse words are limited on here, so is racism,insults,trolling,etc. If you agree to ANYTHING I just said, give me kudos. If you think I am preaching (I wasn't trying to), then give me kudos. 

      ME: LORD HERE ARE PRAYER. AMEN!!!

      ALL OTHER USERS: LORD HERE ARE PRAYER. AMEN!!!

      Thank you for your time. Next service is on Tuesday. Don't miss it!!! (JK!!! OR AM I???)

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    • Amethyst Purple Puma wrote:
      Everyone has the right to free speech, 

      no they don't.

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    • CasaBlacka wrote:
      Amethyst Purple Puma wrote:
      Everyone has the right to free speech, 
      no they don't.

      Well, you do have a point. My fault, I should have changed that. Thanks!!!

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    • EpicAmethyst wrote:
      There's almost no reason to fight on here. We all have our own favorites, theories and posts that make us who we are. We should respect each other's ideas and feelings and socialize as a healthy wiki community should. If you reach an impass with another person always be the bigger person and agree to disagree politely and leave it at that. Kudos to KIller.

      That was beautiful!!! So much preaching. I like that! Good job!!!

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    • I agree! This fighting has to stop! I don't want to come here to an apocolypse!

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    • I should probably point out that the Kamen Rider and Power Rangers wikias both banned random discussion and enforced a rule that all discussion be related to the wikis because there are dedicated outlets for discussion of such topics such as Rangerboard and the Henshin Justice Unlimited forums. A wikia is meant to be an encyclopedia, not a message board after all. For a fandom so big, I find it hard to believe there isn't some major messageboard/fansite for that kind of thing. At the least there's always the social media sites like facebook, reddit, and tumblr.

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    • KingAmethystoTheII wrote:
      I agree! This fighting has to stop! I don't want to come here to an apocolypse!

      What if I wanna come here to an apocalypse?

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    • CasaBlacka wrote:
      Amethyst Purple Puma wrote:
      Everyone has the right to free speech, 
      no they don't.

      Actually everyone has freedom of speech, they are entitled to voice their own views and opinions. But people keep assuming that the idea of freedom of speech has only one question and that is "can I say that?", to which the answer is yes, yes you can. But most people keep forgetting the second most important question, which is "should I say that?", which people tend to ignore and just say what they want and not care for how it might affect other people.

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    • Rights are a fickle thing. They can be abused, and they can be rightfully revoked or overruled as a result.

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    • Rights!

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    • How bout this, we close this thread the decision has been made and we all forget about it and go on living happily ever after we can chat,edit,kick and ban if needed let's move on.

      48422834

      Come on guys

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    • Buddies!

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    • Dam Sentinel wrote:
      How bout this, we close this thread the decision has been made and we all forget about it and go on living happily ever after we can chat,edit,kick and ban if needed let's move on.
      48422834

      Come on guys

      We were never enemies, there has just been a lost of fighting on the wiki.  This is very important and should not be taken down for a while.

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    • Closing and removing are not the same thing.

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    • I never said enemies niether did I say remove it I said close the thread I know killer365 made this but maybe we need to stop talking about this and just go with it when action needs to be taken it will be taken so come on guys.

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    • 'sup?

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    • sup

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    • Dam Sentinel wrote:
      I never said enemies niether did I say remove it I said close the thread I know killer365 made this but maybe we need to stop talking about this and just go with it when action needs to be taken it will be taken so come on guys.

      This isnt a thing that action needs to be taken towards, people just need to relize that this is a place of peace and friendship and not choas and enemies.  The longer this stays up, the more people will see this and understand the point of the wiki.

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    • Ok I get you but I was confused why enemies came into play I never said that but I agree with what you said.

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    • Dam Sentinel wrote:
      Ok I get you but I was confused why enemies came into play I never said that but I agree with what you said.

      I have seen in lot fighting and even shear enemies in the chat, also enemies was the first thing that came to mind when I wanted to say the opposite of friendship

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    • Ok yeah man I am not agianst you or anyone but this does need to stop with the demotion crazy people who stalk the mods if they are not on for a day.

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    • I tend to agree. I was just on this for like a few days, and drama has happened. Pearl was almost demoted. And all things broke loose. I would like a certain system to prvent from any early things from happening. Your points are very rellivent. But early users may get confused when they come on and there are all these rules. It may throw them off. A bigger community will be okay, but to be honest. I like the small community. Keeping things appropriote will not be easy. 


      Rules and regulations may not be the best for the community. So I think we should take it slow. Handing a bunch of rules to new comers isn't going to be best. I do think we should work on the current community. If all of us start to fall apart its not going to be good for any of us.

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    • This thread needs a dispenser here

      031325ff5762237036357effe2ebfc8c8de2eb1c full
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    • Nurp

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    • Ruby Crystal Gem wrote:
      Nurp

      Nurp want crater tots! :3

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    • Ruby Crystal Gem wrote: I tend to agree. I was just on this for like a few days, and drama has happened. Pearl was almost demoted. And all things broke loose. I would like a certain system to prvent from any early things from happening. Your points are very rellivent. But early users may get confused when they come on and there are all these rules. It may throw them off. A bigger community will be okay, but to be honest. I like the small community. Keeping things appropriote will not be easy. 


      Rules and regulations may not be the best for the community. So I think we should take it slow. Handing a bunch of rules to new comers isn't going to be best. I do think we should work on the current community. If all of us start to fall apart its not going to be good for any of us.

      You're missing the obvious answer: Go easier on newcomers unless they are rapid-fire repeat offenders. I don't know about the later part, but I know that going easier on new users is how Rangerwiki and the Kamen Rider wikia handle things. The thing is, you guys have to look to experienced moderators and admins for a good example of how to properly run things(personally I usually disagree with that Nbajammer guy though, but not always).

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    • But paying so much attention on newcomers takes time that we dont have.

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    • We give them the original rules then. We welcome them to the wiki. If they are disruptive, we give them a fair warning.

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    • I think the current rules and regulations are a bit too much considering all users on the wiki must be at least 13 years of age. When I was 13 I had already been exposed to all the world had to offer so I dont think curses are such a big deal.

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    • Ruby Crystal Gem wrote: But paying so much attention on newcomers takes time that we dont have.

      Moderating this wiki requires more attention than you think. You're not a moderator, so you can't really speak on their behalf.

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    • This conversation is officially 7 days old.

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    • Sorry about that

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    • Oh no, it is celebratory

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    • oh much longer well this conversation go on for i keep getting notice's and i think there something else but at the same time i dont want to icnor this becouse something important may happen

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    • Mattwo wrote:

      Ruby Crystal Gem wrote: But paying so much attention on newcomers takes time that we dont have.

      Moderating this wiki requires more attention than you think. You're not a moderator, so you can't really speak on their behalf.

      But i can speak on mine.



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    • Ummm... your behalf doesn't matter here. You're not the one who has to deal with this sort of stuff, all you're supposed to do is stand by and watch. That's kind of obvious really.

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    • Seems like you want more drama. This isn't helping with anything so stop arguing.

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    • You're being unreasonable. At the very least I know better than to drag things out with people like you when I pick up on just how unreasonable you are. Just for the record though, there was no point in you saying "but I can speak on mine". That just sounds like you're arguing for the sake of arguing, so don't try to pin this on me.

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    • Why can't we all chill and share our thoughts on Steven Universe? I mean, that is what the Wiki is for, honestly some times you have to think, too much is too much.

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    • Both of you please stop directing these comments at one another. Killer made this thread to ask for fighting to stop, not to start arguements on it. Please respect this.

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    • Lilduders wrote:
      Both of you please stop directing these comments at one another. Killer made this thread to ask for fighting to stop, not to start arguements on it. Please respect this.

      I agree.

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    • Thats what i've been trying to do. I hate to make people mad because people deserve to be happy. Replying to the thread was supposed to help.

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    • JinxBinx wrote: Why can't we all chill and share our thoughts on Steven Universe? I mean, that is what the Wiki is for, honestly some times you have to think, too much is too much.

      I thought this wiki was for cataloging information on Steven Universe. That is the primary objective of a wiki based on a specific topic is it not? Wikis are not meant to be message boards or social media sites. When they get used as such things like this are bound to happen. It gives the administration more work than they deserve to have(dealing with newcomers is likely the least of their worries). I can not speak on their behalf, but it just seems like it would be simplest for them to adopt the community policies of sites like wikipedia or rangerwiki(except a biiiiit less strict in the later's case, like I said, I don't fully agree with how that guy runs things).

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    • Amethyst crystal gem universe

      How about we all just look at this instead of arguing

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    • Mattwo wrote:

      JinxBinx wrote: Why can't we all chill and share our thoughts on Steven Universe? I mean, that is what the Wiki is for, honestly some times you have to think, too much is too much.

      I thought this wiki was for cataloging information on Steven Universe. That is the primary objective of a wiki based on a specific topic is it not? Wikis are not meant to be message boards or social media sites. When they get used as such things like this are bound to happen. It gives the administration more work than they deserve to have(dealing with newcomers is likely the least of their worries). I can not speak on their behalf, but it just seems like it would be simplest for them to adopt the community policies of sites like wikipedia or rangerwiki(except a biiiiit less strict in the later's case, like I said, I don't fully agree with how that guy runs things).

      I would like to dissagree, even though the main purpose of the wiki, and most wikis, is to put correct information about the ______ that its for, our wiki as evolved into something far greater.  This is now a place were people can share ideas, an theories and talk about the show from general discussions to QAs.  This is what the wiki is now, and people need to accept it and get in with the program and just be nice to each other.  We may be different on the outside, but we share the same reason that brought us here: our love of Steven Universe.

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    • I'm not in this. Okay

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    • See, this is what happens someone corrects one another and then they all argue. Like Ruby Crystal Gem and Mattwo, I don't think Mattwo or Ruby were trying to argue to each other but it causes fights when people correct or bother the other person come on love and tolerate. 

      Note that this was not to insult Matt or ruby just using it as an example

      Also this wikia supports both mattwo and Ruby's idea by making people happy and using it as an information site so both of your ideas fit with the wikia.

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    • Mattwo wrote:

      JinxBinx wrote: Why can't we all chill and share our thoughts on Steven Universe? I mean, that is what the Wiki is for, honestly some times you have to think, too much is too much.

      I thought this wiki was for cataloging information on Steven Universe. That is the primary objective of a wiki based on a specific topic is it not? Wikis are not meant to be message boards or social media sites. When they get used as such things like this are bound to happen. It gives the administration more work than they deserve to have(dealing with newcomers is likely the least of their worries). I can not speak on their behalf, but it just seems like it would be simplest for them to adopt the community policies of sites like wikipedia or rangerwiki(except a biiiiit less strict in the later's case, like I said, I don't fully agree with how that guy runs things).

      The wiki is for cataloging information, but mainly it is also for fans to share their love for the cartoon itself, if a few people in our community get a little heated over a certain topic or not, that is for the adminastration to handle, and i do agree that the adminastration has handle alot lately and needs a break from it. As for rangerwiki and wikipedia, i don't personally have accounts there, so you know more on there behalf then i do.

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    • Dam Sentinel wrote:

      See, this is what happens someone corrects one another and then they all argue. Like Ruby Crystal Gem and Mattwo, I don't think Mattwo or Ruby were trying to argue to each other but it causes fights when people correct or bother the other person come on love and tolerate. 

      Exactly, I was just trying to set Ruby straight here. Also, it's Mat.

      JinxBinx wrote:

      i don't personally have accounts there, so you know more on there behalf then i do.

      Rangerwiki is part of wikia, so technically you do have an account there. Regardless, that's why I put those links there.

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    • GUUUYYYSSS This conversation is over. Please stop lecturing!

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    • Ruby Crystal Gem wrote:
      GUUUYYYSSS This conversation is over. Please stop lecturing!

      Yup.

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    • 8. Days. Long.

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    • Complaining about(especially whining about it) it isn't going to help matters, in fact the only things it can achieve is making things worse and giving the wiki a negative image.

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    • I'm not doing that! I just want this to stop! Everyone else wants us to  stop. This is 8 days old!

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    • Guys AND GALS (Gender Equality) just be friends

      48422834

      Come on guys AND GALS (gender equality)

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    • Let's just end this conversation and have different conversations about episodes! Arguments happen!

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    • I LOVE YOU ALLLLLLL!!!!!!

      now let's stop fighting.

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    • I am assuming I like everyone too. We are friends. This 9 day old conversation is now in the past and history books. Do I have support?

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    • Yush, i like everyone on here.

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    • It's actually kind of ironic, you guys don't want fair rules, yet some of you are begging the moderators to close this thread. Not that I don't disagree, but they'll do it on their own terms, if they really feel like it's necessary. You guys don't get to decide when a thread closes. They do.

      You guys have also said the same things several times now. Instead of begging for the mods to close the thread, wouldn't it make more sense to stop posting in it, especially when you don't have anything new or constructive to add to the conversation? It's behavior like this that allows in-fighting to happen in the first place. Ruby, I know you don't think you're doing anything wrong, but you need to stop and consider the possible consequences of your actions.

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    • Mattwo wrote:
      It's actually kind of ironic, you guys don't want fair rules, yet some of you are begging the moderators to close this thread. Not that I don't disagree, but they'll do it on their own terms, if they really feel like it's necessary. You guys don't get to decide when a thread closes. They do.

      You guys have also said the same things several times now. Instead of begging for the mods to close the thread, wouldn't it make more sense to stop posting in it, especially when you don't have anything new or constructive to add to the conversation? It's behavior like this that allows in-fighting to happen in the first place. Ruby, I know you don't think you're doing anything wrong, but you need to stop and consider the possible consequences of your actions.

      This the best comment on this thread

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    • Trust me, a lot of drama I've seen on the internet is because neither side is willing to back down for whatever reason (and admittedly I'm pretty stubborn so I'm very guilty of this myself, but I've been doing better at not crossing lines when they have been drawn and backing down when a compromise or the other side backing down seems impossible). The present issue in this thread however is slightly different. A bit similar though, and I do not doubt it's related.

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    • JinxBinx wrote: Yush, i like everyone on here.


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      "I guess soon we'll become friends. "

      "Soon."

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    • SunnyRainyDays, did you even read my post?

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    • So many replies here, I have so may points/ideas/opinions to tell them but I'm pretty sure it would only lead to either a great discussion or more often than not, an argument. So I'd rather just stay quiet.

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    • Best to stay quiet at this point honestly.

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    • Does this mean every post I make on this thread will prolong pointless arguements? Including this one?

      x pulls out the chair and popcorn x

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    • Evtini200 wrote:
      Does this mean every post I make on this thread will prolong pointless arguements? Including this one?

      x pulls out the chair and popcorn x

      There isn't really an argument, per se, more so of pointless discussion.

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    • Judgekoo wrote:

      Evtini200 wrote:
      Does this mean every post I make on this thread will prolong pointless arguements? Including this one?

      x pulls out the chair and popcorn x

      There isn't really an argument, per se, more so of pointless discussion.

      Pretty much yea. Like I said, the problem is similar, but not quite the same.

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    • This thread has gotten kinda off topic and out of hand. Therefore, I am closing the thread.

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