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  • Does anyone have an opinion about the show that isn't that popular amongst fans? I'd love to hear more about it! Discuss your unpopular opinions about the show here.

    (you can talk about things wrong with the show but please don't go full on bashing the show. and try not to bring politics here also. Thank you)

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    • I dont really have one but this is actually a really good idea


      Edit: I mean, them censoring russia was funny but idk if that counts lol

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    • my unpopular opinion is that lapis is overrated and a poorly developed character. she has hurt so many people (like leaving peridot, leaving steven twice, breaking greg's leg and attacking connie and the crystal gems early on, taking her anger out on jasper when they were malachite, etc) and while she has acknowledged these events sometimes, she never really apologized. i feel like people like her just because she's a qUiRkY dEpResSed gem lol

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    • AchiToki wrote:
      my unpopular opinion is that lapis is overrated and a poorly developed character.

      That's not an unpopular opinion hehe

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    • My unpopular opinion is that Steven himself is one of my favorite characters.

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    • My unpopular opinion: Steven's Birthday should have ended with older Steven as default. And the problems are not shapeshifting it's when you decide to grow up or be a kid forever. A maturity crisis!

      Think of you grow up but you still act like a kid would it be embarassing? Or can you even handle teen stuff when you are not ready?

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    • My unpopular opinion is that they should bring the Mystery Girl back. I understand that Pearl needed to solve things out with Rose, be independent for a while, but it would be cool if we got a look into how their relationship turned out.

      They don't even have to be together, they could be close friends ( but i wouldn't mind seeing them together ). It just feels like the whole crew forgot about her :((

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    • My unpopular opinion is that So Many Birthdays is overrated. It's not a bad episode, but I don't see what's so amazing about it that everyone puts it in their top 10 or 20.

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    • Esterwa wrote:
      My unpopular opinion is that they should bring the Mystery Girl back. I understand that Pearl needed to solve things out with Rose, be independent for a while, but it would be cool if we got a look into how their relationship turned out.

      They don't even have to be together, they could be close friends ( but i wouldn't mind seeing them together ). It just feels like the whole crew forgot about her :((

      That is DEFFINIITLY not an unpopulaur opinion, she is very underrated and she could be great in the story of the show, especially with the timeskip

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    • Thanosgem wrote:

      Esterwa wrote:
      My unpopular opinion is that they should bring the Mystery Girl back. I understand that Pearl needed to solve things out with Rose, be independent for a while, but it would be cool if we got a look into how their relationship turned out.

      They don't even have to be together, they could be close friends ( but i wouldn't mind seeing them together ). It just feels like the whole crew forgot about her :((

      That is DEFFINIITLY not an unpopulaur opinion, she is very underrated and she could be great in the story of the show, especially with the timeskip

      Oh I didn’t know people thought like that too. I’m glad I’m not the only one tho

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    • yeah, np

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    • I never really liked Jasper

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    • Also — everyone blame Jasper for the unhealthy and abusive relationship she developed with Lapis. And yes, she started it by bullying Lapis, but Lapis herself said that she liked taking everything out on Jasper. People tend to like Lapis more because she took the helping hand unlike Jasper. But to be honest - I don’t really like both of them. These characters are poorly developed, as AchiToki stated up there about Lapis

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    • Yeah

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    • I hate mystery girl, she is wayyyy overrated and seems really unnecessary. The only reason I can see why she was added in the first place was to show Pearl's love for Rose. I didn't like the episode she was in, and I hope she never returns.

      (Also I see people in this thread talking about how much they love mystery girl-)

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    • I never really cared for her

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    • Another one I have! I liked pilot style better. Although I know they changed it because it would be a lot harder to animate and stuff but it was really beautiful. The colors, the details — just amazing

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    • I think Sugilite is underrated. She is one of the best fusions according to me.

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    • Yeah

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    • I think the show is awesome and the movie is going to be even better

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    • How is that an unpopular opinion?

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    • IDK, I just want to put something on this

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    • XD XD XD

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    • I think White Diamond is hot.

      Take away the messed-up narcissism and sociopathic behaviour and she is really sexy. :)

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    • White disgusted

      What White would look like if she saw that.

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    • TalkingOddlySpooky wrote:
      White disgusted

      What White would look like like if she saw that.

      Yup...time to turn on the old Tabernac charm!! :)

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    • AchiToki wrote:
      my unpopular opinion is that lapis is overrated and a poorly developed character. she has hurt so many people (like leaving peridot, leaving steven twice, breaking greg's leg and attacking connie and the crystal gems early on, taking her anger out on jasper when they were malachite, etc) and while she has acknowledged these events sometimes, she never really apologized. i feel like people like her just because she's a qUiRkY dEpResSed gem lol

      Lapis was NOT taking her anger out on Jasper. Jasper was trying to harm Steven, who is Lapis' friend, and Lapis stopped her.

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    • Unpopular opinion: This thread is probably gonna be full of arguments soon

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    • AJDraws wrote:
      AchiToki wrote:
      my unpopular opinion is that lapis is overrated and a poorly developed character. she has hurt so many people (like leaving peridot, leaving steven twice, breaking greg's leg and attacking connie and the crystal gems early on, taking her anger out on jasper when they were malachite, etc) and while she has acknowledged these events sometimes, she never really apologized. i feel like people like her just because she's a qUiRkY dEpResSed gem lol
      Lapis was NOT taking her anger out on Jasper. Jasper was trying to harm Steven, who is Lapis' friend, and Lapis stopped her.

      I agree. In that episode when Steven visited Lapis in her mind (Chillie Tid), it was clear she was fused with Jasper because she cared about Steven. She literally tells him  "Just let me do this for you!" She didn't care much about the Crystal Gems, who she was justifiably angry at as they knew she was in the mirror for thousands of years...but they didn't try and free her. It was only Steven who actually talked to her, as the others thought of the mirror just as something that gives orders. She did warm up to the Gems, but it took some time. Additionally, her wariness of Peridot in Barnmates was also justified as she was interrogated by her. As for breaking Greg's leg and attacking Connie, I can understand her justification. She probably felt a bit apologetic about hurting Greg, although she didn't apologize on screen to him in Alone At Sea, and while she didn't even remember Connie, when she confronted her and Peridot in the bathroom in The New Crystal Gems, she did seem apologetic about what she did in stealing the ocean and all. As for leaving Peridot, that is heartbreaking but she felt that getting involved in another war wasn't worth her time, as she was poofed in the last war by Bismuth, and probably has some trauma from that experience. I mean, I don't think she should have left, but I also understand her rationale. So, I would have to side with Lapis on this one, while acknowledging that she has definitely done some horrible things, although she has grown from her first appearance in Ocean Gems.

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    • Esterwa wrote:

      Thanosgem wrote:

      Esterwa wrote:
      My unpopular opinion is that they should bring the Mystery Girl back. I understand that Pearl needed to solve things out with Rose, be independent for a while, but it would be cool if we got a look into how their relationship turned out.

      They don't even have to be together, they could be close friends ( but i wouldn't mind seeing them together ). It just feels like the whole crew forgot about her :((

      That is DEFFINIITLY not an unpopulaur opinion, she is very underrated and she could be great in the story of the show, especially with the timeskip

      Oh I didn’t know people thought like that too. I’m glad I’m not the only one tho

      I mean, there was a couple dubs of Steven Universe comics on YouTube where she comes back, but it would be interesting for her to come back in the show itself. Maybe it will happen in Season 6. We will see.

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    • Both Lapis and Jasper were toxic to each other. It was an unhealthy relationship, no one is 100% to blame

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    • Esterwa wrote:
      Both Lapis and Jasper were toxic to each other. It was an unhealthy relationship, no one is 100% to blame

      I mean, I agree with that, but I still tend sympathize with Lapis over Jasper. For all the things that Lapis did, Jasper was much more destructive, literally willing to kill all the Crystal Gems with that huge Gem warship shaped like a hand.

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    • Here's my unpopular opinion on Reunited: It was really bad. 😉

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    • Can I disagree with you peacefully and ask why do you think one the best episodes in my opinion was bad ?

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    • Applejack2307 wrote: Can I disagree with you peacefully and ask why do you think one the best episodes in my opinion was bad ?

      Ummm... Probably?

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    • Then do if you can, I want to know also.

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    • TalkingOddlySpooky wrote:
      Then do if you can, I want to know also.

      I think everyone would like to know.

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    • Weeell... It had this one "two killed Gems" incident that set me off badly. That made me hate the episode.

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    • Dark Boss 7 wrote:
      Weeell... It had this one "two killed Gems" incident that set me off badly. That made me hate the episode.

      They got better eventually.

      They even got a wardrobe upgrade.

      :)

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    • Dark Boss 7 wrote:

      Applejack2307 wrote: Can I disagree with you peacefully and ask why do you think one the best episodes in my opinion was bad ?

      Ummm... Probably?

      I really thought it was beautiful and important. Not only it contains Ruby and Sapphire's wedding, but it also marks the return of Lapis Lazuli and the Pink Diamond reveal to Yellow and Blue. This episode has such a huge impact on the series,that the following episodes would be so different and probably less intrusting without it.

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    • Applejack2307 wrote:
      Dark Boss 7 wrote:

      Applejack2307 wrote: Can I disagree with you peacefully and ask why do you think one the best episodes in my opinion was bad ?

      Ummm... Probably?
      I really thought it was beautiful and important. Not only it contains Ruby and Sapphire's wedding, but it also marks the return of Lapis Lazuli and the Pink Diamond reveal to Yellow and Blue. This episode has such a huge impact on the series,that the following episodes would be so different and probably less intrusting without it.

      It was the beginning of the climax of the entire series. All the parts were finally in place to bring about the final confrontation with Homeworld, the characters and their motivations were all set. No more doubts about loyalty or where they stand.

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    • Exactly !

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    • Yep

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    • Loved this image near the end. A true hero shot.
      Heroshot
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    • And the quote during it

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    • Yes, yes it is

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    • Me too ! All the Crystal Gems finally together !

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    • No so much unpopular as terrifying...

      Instead of Rose falling in love with Greg...she falls in love with...Kevin!

      Let that sink in for a moment.

      Wow...I scared myself. :D

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    • Tabernac wrote: No so much unpopular as terrifying...

      Instead of Rose falling in love with Greg...she falls in love with...Kevin!

      Let that sink in for a moment.

      Wow...I scared myself. :D

      I have no doubt that there is a FanFiction somewhere out there exploring this concept.

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    • stop lying

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    • Emperor helmet wrote:

      I have no doubt that there is a FanFiction somewhere out there exploring this concept.

      Ha!

      More like Horror-fiction.

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    • Dark Boss 7 wrote: Weeell... It had this one "two killed Gems" incident that set me off badly. That made me hate the episode.

      "Two killed Gems"?

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    • Mr. Lemmy 06 wrote:

      Dark Boss 7 wrote: Weeell... It had this one "two killed Gems" incident that set me off badly. That made me hate the episode.

      "Two killed Gems"?

      I think Dark Boss means Peridot and Lapis.

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    • Tabernac wrote:

      Mr. Lemmy 06 wrote:

      Dark Boss 7 wrote: Weeell... It had this one "two killed Gems" incident that set me off badly. That made me hate the episode.

      "Two killed Gems"?

      I think Dark Boss means Peridot and Lapis.

      Yeah... I WAS going to like the episode, but thanks to *ahem!* Giant Electro, I hated it because of that.

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    • Heh...Giant Electro. :D

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    • Tabernac wrote: Heh...Giant Electro. :D

      I believe he means Yellow Diamond.

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    • Mr. Lemmy 06 wrote:

      Tabernac wrote: Heh...Giant Electro. :D

      I believe he means Yellow Diamond.

      Yeah...funny! :D :D

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    • Heheh

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    • Emperor helmet wrote:

      Tabernac wrote: No so much unpopular as terrifying...

      Instead of Rose falling in love with Greg...she falls in love with...Kevin!

      Let that sink in for a moment.

      Wow...I scared myself. :D

      I have no doubt that there is a FanFiction somewhere out there exploring this concept.

      Probably in the darkest corners of Tumblr

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    • mhmm

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    • Not sure if this is unpopular...

      I was so happy when Connie got rid of the Uggs.

      Yikes.

      ):)
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    • Yeah, no, that isn't unpopular

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    • Dark Boss 7 wrote:

      Tabernac wrote:

      Mr. Lemmy 06 wrote:

      Dark Boss 7 wrote: Weeell... It had this one "two killed Gems" incident that set me off badly. That made me hate the episode.

      "Two killed Gems"?

      I think Dark Boss means Peridot and Lapis.

      Yeah... I WAS going to like the episode, but thanks to *ahem!* Giant Electro, I hated it because of that.

      Lapis and Peridot were POOFED

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    • Oh yeah, that's ANOTHER one of my unpopular(?) opinions. Like, the way they use that word is just absolutely ridiculous.

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    • Dark Boss 7 wrote:
      Oh yeah, that's ANOTHER one of my unpopular(?) opinions. Like, the way they use that word is just absolutely ridiculous.

      They're not killed though. When someone is killed they don't come back, the Gems are just knocked out. And only Steven has said that because he was a kid when Pearl was poofed and that's basically what happens. Gem gets hurt, a POOF sound is heard followed by some smoke, Gem is now gone.

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    • I'm already fearing of this discussion

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    • Why?

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    • Yeah most of the comments have been pretty light hearted.

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    • Tabernac wrote:
      Yeah most of the comments have been pretty light hearted.

      True, this isn't as bad as Tumblr were stating your opinion = death

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    • Ninjagofan2245 wrote:

      Dark Boss 7 wrote:

      Tabernac wrote:

      Mr. Lemmy 06 wrote:

      Dark Boss 7 wrote: Weeell... It had this one "two killed Gems" incident that set me off badly. That made me hate the episode.

      "Two killed Gems"?
      I think Dark Boss means Peridot and Lapis.
      Yeah... I WAS going to like the episode, but thanks to *ahem!* Giant Electro, I hated it because of that.
      Lapis and Peridot were POOFED

      Uh... Do you hate all episodes where Gems get poofed? If not, why this one specifically???

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    • Unpopular opinion: Yellow Pearl is best pearl.

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    • Meh

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    • Steven should fuse with more humans. This also kinda goes into my other unpopular opinions of "the boardie episodes aren't bad" and "Steven's human and Gem lives should be more connected".

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    • I agree. Some filler episodes can be good. 

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    • TalkingOddlySpooky wrote:
      I agree. Some filler episodes can be good. 

      Glad you think so. Though this reminds me of another unpopular opinion:

      There are no filler episodes in Steven Universe.

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    • How?

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    • Crossover Enthusiast wrote:

      Ninjagofan2245 wrote:

      Dark Boss 7 wrote:

      Tabernac wrote:

      Mr. Lemmy 06 wrote:

      Dark Boss 7 wrote: Weeell... It had this one "two killed Gems" incident that set me off badly. That made me hate the episode.

      "Two killed Gems"?
      I think Dark Boss means Peridot and Lapis.
      Yeah... I WAS going to like the episode, but thanks to *ahem!* Giant Electro, I hated it because of that.
      Lapis and Peridot were POOFED

      Uh... Do you hate all episodes where Gems get poofed? If not, why this one specifically???

      Well, to be honest, Reunited is one of the worst examples of that. For Peridot, I got a LITTLE upset. For Lapis, however, I was like "I'm done", meaning I just shut off my TV and sat in the corner... Trust me, i've been through a LOT of anger and depression last year, well ever since Raising the Barn aired (which is another episode that pissed me off). But still, that was like the WORST thing they came up with. What? Did you think I freaked out from that which would make you go "Dude why are you freaking out for? What? That means they're DEAD?"

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    • I think I ranted about Reunited too much...

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    • Nah, it's fine. It's your opinion

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    • Don't know if it's unpopular but after watching "Nightmare Hospital" I'm thinking that Connie's mom is like the worst Doctor ever.

      Srsly, woman you couldn't see they weren't human?! They had no heads and like 8 arms!!

      ) :)
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    • Tabernac wrote:
      Don't know if it's unpopular but after watching "Nightmare Hospital" I'm thinking that Connie's mom is like the worst Doctor ever.

      Srsly, woman you couldn't see they weren't human?! They had no heads and like 8 arms!!

      ) :)

      I am with you there 

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    • An unpopular opinion.

      I loved "Gem Harvest", it is one of my favourite episodes.

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    • It was good!

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    • TalkingOddlySpooky wrote: It was good!

      Glad you agree. I don't understand why people hate it so much.

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    • Because it was counted as "filler" and to make matters worse it was double lengthed.

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    • TalkingOddlySpooky wrote: Because it was counted as "filler" and too make matters worse it was double lengthed.

      No pleasing some people.

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    • LapisLazuliisthebest wrote:

      TalkingOddlySpooky wrote: Because it was counted as "filler" and too make matters worse it was double lengthed.

      No pleasing some people.

      Ikr

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    • This is going to be an unpopular opinion. I thought the movie was bad.

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    • To4oo4 wrote:
      This is going to be an unpopular opinion.

      I thought the movie was bad.

      R00d

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    • Crossover Enthusiast wrote:

      To4oo4 wrote:
      This is going to be an unpopular opinion.

      I thought the movie was bad.

      R00d

      It really isn't.

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    • To4oo4 wrote:

      Crossover Enthusiast wrote:

      To4oo4 wrote:
      This is going to be an unpopular opinion.

      I thought the movie was bad.

      R00d
      It really isn't.

      I thought the two zeros made it clear I was joking. My apologies.

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    • Crossover Enthusiast wrote:
      To4oo4 wrote:

      Crossover Enthusiast wrote:


      To4oo4 wrote:
      This is going to be an unpopular opinion.

      I thought the movie was bad.

      R00d
      It really isn't.
      I thought the two zeros made it clear I was joking. My apologies.

      Oh yeah...this forum needs emojis and bad!

      D :D :D  (these are big smiley faces)
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    • I find Steg really, really creepy.

      Srsly, its Steven and his Dad and the fact they fuzed into a sexy muscular Adonis doesn't help matters.

      D :D
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    • Tabernac wrote:
      I find Steg really, really creepy.

      Srsly, its Steven and his Dad and the fact they fuzed into a sexy muscular Adonis doesn't help matters.

      D :D

      I've seen that opinion around a lot, actually. Even I think he could do without the abs.

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    • Tabernac wrote:
      I find Steg really, really creepy.

      Srsly, its Steven and his Dad and the fact they fuzed into a sexy muscular Adonis doesn't help matters.

      D :D

      Says the one who called White Diamond sexy.

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    • XD XD XD

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    • TalkingOddlySpooky wrote:
      Tabernac wrote:
      I find Steg really, really creepy.

      Srsly, its Steven and his Dad and the fact they fuzed into a sexy muscular Adonis doesn't help matters.

      D :D
      Says the one who called White Diamond sexy.

      Well we're not related so I wouldn't mind 'fusing' with her. :D :D :D

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    • I actually preferred Peridot when she had her limb-enhancers.  Little Peridot is cute and all, but she's kind of a joke now (plus her limb enhancers made her unique, but now she's just another short Gem).  I prefer her previous form than her current one as well.

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    • I don't really like Sapphire because she reminds me too much of Elsa from Frozen.

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    • Mr. Lemmy 06 wrote:
      I don't really like Sapphire because she reminds me too much of Elsa from Frozen.

      I've never seen Frozen and have no interest in ever seeing it.

      Don't think it's an Unpopular SU opinion, but I think it's probably a unpopular opinion in general

      D :D :D :D
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    • Tabernac wrote:
      TalkingOddlySpooky wrote:
      Tabernac wrote:
      I find Steg really, really creepy.

      Srsly, its Steven and his Dad and the fact they fuzed into a sexy muscular Adonis doesn't help matters.

      D :D
      Says the one who called White Diamond sexy.
      Well we're not related so I wouldn't mind 'fusing' with her. :D :D :D

      Oh my gosh, save me.

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    • TalkingOddlySpooky wrote:
      Tabernac wrote:
      TalkingOddlySpooky wrote:
      Tabernac wrote:
      I find Steg really, really creepy.

      Srsly, its Steven and his Dad and the fact they fuzed into a sexy muscular Adonis doesn't help matters.

      D :D
      Says the one who called White Diamond sexy.
      Well we're not related so I wouldn't mind 'fusing' with her. :D :D :D
      Oh my gosh, save me.

      Heh, heh...I guess I've been on Twitter too long...all that weirdness is spilling out onto other sites. :D :D :D :D :D

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    • Tabernac wrote: I find Steg really, really creepy.

      Srsly, its Steven and his Dad and the fact they fuzed into a sexy muscular Adonis doesn't help matters.

      D :D
      I think Steg was a pretty unnecessary fusion.
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    • Dark Boss 7 wrote:

      Tabernac wrote: I find Steg really, really creepy.

      Srsly, its Steven and his Dad and the fact they fuzed into a sexy muscular Adonis doesn't help matters.

      D :D
      I think Steg was a pretty unnecessary fusion.

      I mean... you're not wrong. Steg's really cool, but they easily could've jogged Pearl's memory by making her think Greg died. Don't think we would've gotten an Opal song then, though.

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    • Dark Boss 7 wrote:

      Tabernac wrote: I find Steg really, really creepy.

      Srsly, its Steven and his Dad and the fact they fuzed into a sexy muscular Adonis doesn't help matters.

      D :D
      I think Steg was a pretty unnecessary fusion.

      you are kind of right but do not forget Steg did help bring pearl back

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    • 235210b wrote:
      Dark Boss 7 wrote:

      Tabernac wrote: I find Steg really, really creepy.

      Srsly, its Steven and his Dad and the fact they fuzed into a sexy muscular Adonis doesn't help matters.

      D :D
      I think Steg was a pretty unnecessary fusion.
      you are kind of right but do not forget Steg did help bring pearl back

      Yeah...and that made it evem more super creepy. Cuz the fusion involved Steven whom she loves as a son (or so we've come to believe) and Greg, the rival to her own true love Rose.

      That is some serious creepage on several levels going on there. : D :D :D

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    • Tabernac wrote:
      235210b wrote:
      Dark Boss 7 wrote:

      Tabernac wrote: I find Steg really, really creepy.

      Srsly, its Steven and his Dad and the fact they fuzed into a sexy muscular Adonis doesn't help matters.

      D :D
      I think Steg was a pretty unnecessary fusion.
      you are kind of right but do not forget Steg did help bring pearl back
      Yeah...and that made it evem more super creepy. Cuz the fusion involved Steven whom she loves as a son (or so we've come to believe) and Greg, the rival to her own true love Rose.

      That is some serious creepage on several levels going on there. : D :D :D

      Those emoticons really don't help

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    • Tabernac wrote:

      235210b wrote:
      Dark Boss 7 wrote:

      Tabernac wrote: I find Steg really, really creepy.

      Srsly, its Steven and his Dad and the fact they fuzed into a sexy muscular Adonis doesn't help matters.

      D :D
      I think Steg was a pretty unnecessary fusion.
      you are kind of right but do not forget Steg did help bring pearl back

      Yeah...and that made it evem more super creepy. Cuz the fusion involved Steven whom she loves as a son (or so we've come to believe) and Greg, the rival to her own true love Rose.

      That is some serious creepage on several levels going on there. : D :D :D

      In that situation, it mattered more of what they were singing about, more than the fusion’s components.

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    • Crossover Enthusiast wrote:
      Tabernac wrote:
      235210b wrote:
      Dark Boss 7 wrote:

      Tabernac wrote: I find Steg really, really creepy.

      Srsly, its Steven and his Dad and the fact they fuzed into a sexy muscular Adonis doesn't help matters.

      D :D
      I think Steg was a pretty unnecessary fusion.
      you are kind of right but do not forget Steg did help bring pearl back
      Yeah...and that made it evem more super creepy. Cuz the fusion involved Steven whom she loves as a son (or so we've come to believe) and Greg, the rival to her own true love Rose.

      That is some serious creepage on several levels going on there. : D :D :D

      Those emoticons really don't help

      Just trying to keep the conversation light. ;)

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    • Tabernac wrote:
      235210b wrote:
      Dark Boss 7 wrote:

      Tabernac wrote: I find Steg really, really creepy.

      Srsly, its Steven and his Dad and the fact they fuzed into a sexy muscular Adonis doesn't help matters.

      D :D
      I think Steg was a pretty unnecessary fusion.
      you are kind of right but do not forget Steg did help bring pearl back
      Yeah...and that made it evem more super creepy. Cuz the fusion involved Steven whom she loves as a son (or so we've come to believe) and Greg, the rival to her own true love Rose.

      That is some serious creepage on several levels going on there. : D :D :D

      that is kind of creepy

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    • Oh god what's with this thread going on for two months

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    • idek

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    • Well everyone has opinons on SU, even unpopular ones.

      Let's share! :D :D :D

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    • Uh ok no

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    • i read this really good tumblr post about how steg is "sexy" because Greg and Steven think of each other as heroes/rockstars, and it was represented in their fusion i think

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    • Unpopular opinion. Jasper is kinda unnecessary. It’s just, she was made to be this “strong villain” and then gets corrupted. Only to be uncorrupted and basically redeemed in the matter of 20 seconds.

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    • DetectiveAquamarine wrote:
      Unpopular opinion. Jasper is kinda unnecessary. It’s just, she was made to be this “strong villain” and then gets corrupted. Only to be uncorrupted and basically redeemed in the matter of 20 seconds.

      You call that redemption?

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    • Crossover Enthusiast wrote:
      DetectiveAquamarine wrote:
      Unpopular opinion. Jasper is kinda unnecessary. It’s just, she was made to be this “strong villain” and then gets corrupted. Only to be uncorrupted and basically redeemed in the matter of 20 seconds.
      You call that redemption?

      Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if Jasper feels betrayed after finding out the truth.

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    • I felt like animation quality for the movie wasn't that much of an improvement, and in some scenes it was a total downgrade. System/BOOT.pearl_final(3).Info was the worst of it, Pearl's derpy face ruined the whole scene for me.

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    • I don't like the black shirt Steven wears at Future but I digress. I'll get used to it since it belonged to his dad. The black shirt however might be foreshadowing of a "darkness" inside Steven...

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    • Dunno about unpopular, but probably an less common opinion: Series 1 was the best.  I loved the pacing, the slice of life angle and how the tension and scale slowly ramped up over time.  Remember when we first heard about 'Homeworld'?  When we first met another gem outside of the Crystal Gems?  That episode in the Kindergarten when, at the end when the cast warped out, the camera lingered for just a moment... as this really sinister dischordant sound grew in the background?

      Where did that tempo and cadence go?

      It had some of the best episodes of the entire programme (IMO): Steven and the Stevens, Mirror/Ocean Gem, Alone Together, Sworn to the Sword, Steven the Swordfighter, not to mention the Return/Jailbreak finale.  They've made some truly wonderful entertainment since, but for myself they've just never reached those heights again.

      I understand the storytelling and editorial drive, but everything since A Single Pale Rose has felt a little bit off to me.  It's not to say they're not incredible pieces of animation, music, acting and storytelling.  They are.  To see a well-made cartoon put LGBT people and women (especially Women of colour) front and centre is marvelous.

      It's mostly the pacing: there's no time for the plot to breath any more.  There's no time to let things sink in.  Pink is Rose, Garnet separates, Ruby and Sapphire reconcile, they get married, Diamonds attack, Diamonds stop attacking, Steven goes to Homeworld as 'Pink', slight pause to gather breath, then Giant Mecha Fight, Bismuth+Peri+Lapis, Showdown with White + Pink Steven, now it's all fine.  Now we're two years ahead, and it's still fine... except it's NOT! Oh no!  Spinel!  Memory loss!  Doubt!  Memories restored!  Conviction! Resolution.

      I don't think it's the intention of the incredibly talented people who work so hard on SU, not one iota, but it feels like things are getting lost due to the breakneck speed of the plot.  The Off-Colours feel like they got forgotten about, so just popped up as a coda to Change Your Mind. Lapis' issues with being used, abused and being somewhat abusive herself got fixed off-screen before The Movie.  Peridot and Bismuth took a long time to be brought into the fold, White Diamond got schooled with one put-down and now she's basically OK.  Connie is there in the background, despite being one of the best characters (again, IMO).  Things that used to feel important got lost or pushed into the background.

      I think it shows most strongly in the songs and in the new characters (fusions).  CYM gave us 3 new fusions, TM gave us Steg.  There was no time to really know them - I feel we got to know Opal, Suggilite (terribly underused!), Alexandrite and Sardonyx.  What's Steg like?  Or Sunstone?  Who knows.

      Songs used to be a once-in-a-while event and were very special.  Somewhere around Series 4 onwards they started to become an increasingly regular vehicle for their (again, hugely talented) special-guest Broadway-veteran cast.  We've got Pattie LuPone in the booth, we should get her to sing something!  She brought Christine Ebersole, they should duet with Lisa Hannigan!  Again, it messes with the story telling pacing.  What happened to beloved pet Pumpkin?  We don't know, we had to make time for the cast to sing a reprise of a recap song, explaining what already happened.

      It's that loss of pacing that means we have Steven Universe Future serving to wrap up any of the bigger threads left over that we didn't get time to fold in to the main story properly.  Little threads will almost certainly be left out, which is fine - you don't need to explain everything.

      I'll reiterate - this show is (was, as it's now coming to a final end?) absolutely amazing.  The talent involved and the wonderful things they've achieved as something brilliant to see.  I honestly don't know when we'll get to see another cartoon show children that it's okay to be different, gay, transgender, have an unusual family or any of the other myriad themes SU brought up.

      Cripes, what a whingey essay!  Sorry about that!  Plus we need more Sneople.

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    • Ke2083 wrote: Dunno about unpopular, but probably an less common opinion: Series 1 was the best.  I loved the pacing, the slice of life angle and how the tension and scale slowly ramped up over time.  Remember when we first heard about 'Homeworld'?  When we first met another gem outside of the Crystal Gems?  That episode in the Kindergarten when, at the end when the cast warped out, the camera lingered for just a moment... as this really sinister dischordant sound grew in the background?

      Where did that tempo and cadence go?

      It had some of the best episodes of the entire programme (IMO): Steven and the Stevens, Mirror/Ocean Gem, Alone Together, Sworn to the Sword, Steven the Swordfighter, not to mention the Return/Jailbreak finale.  They've made some truly wonderful entertainment since, but for myself they've just never reached those heights again.

      I understand the storytelling and editorial drive, but everything since A Single Pale Rose has felt a little bit off to me.  It's not to say they're not incredible pieces of animation, music, acting and storytelling.  They are.  To see a well-made cartoon put LGBT people and women (especially Women of colour) front and centre is marvelous.

      It's mostly the pacing: there's no time for the plot to breath any more.  There's no time to let things sink in.  Pink is Rose, Garnet separates, Ruby and Sapphire reconcile, they get married, Diamonds attack, Diamonds stop attacking, Steven goes to Homeworld as 'Pink', slight pause to gather breath, then Giant Mecha Fight, Bismuth+Peri+Lapis, Showdown with White + Pink Steven, now it's all fine.  Now we're two years ahead, and it's still fine... except it's NOT! Oh no!  Spinel!  Memory loss!  Doubt!  Memories restored!  Conviction! Resolution.

      I don't think it's the intention of the incredibly talented people who work so hard on SU, not one iota, but it feels like things are getting lost due to the breakneck speed of the plot.  The Off-Colours feel like they got forgotten about, so just popped up as a coda to Change Your Mind. Lapis' issues with being used, abused and being somewhat abusive herself got fixed off-screen before The Movie.  Peridot and Bismuth took a long time to be brought into the fold, White Diamond got schooled with one put-down and now she's basically OK.  Connie is there in the background, despite being one of the best characters (again, IMO).  Things that used to feel important got lost or pushed into the background.

      I think it shows most strongly in the songs and in the new characters (fusions).  CYM gave us 3 new fusions, TM gave us Steg.  There was no time to really know them - I feel we got to know Opal, Suggilite (terribly underused!), Alexandrite and Sardonyx.  What's Steg like?  Or Sunstone?  Who knows.

      Songs used to be a once-in-a-while event and were very special.  Somewhere around Series 4 onwards they started to become an increasingly regular vehicle for their (again, hugely talented) special-guest Broadway-veteran cast.  We've got Pattie LuPone in the booth, we should get her to sing something!  She brought Christine Ebersole, they should duet with Lisa Hannigan!  Again, it messes with the story telling pacing.  What happened to beloved pet Pumpkin?  We don't know, we had to make time for the cast to sing a reprise of a recap song, explaining what already happened.

      It's that loss of pacing that means we have Steven Universe Future serving to wrap up any of the bigger threads left over that we didn't get time to fold in to the main story properly.  Little threads will almost certainly be left out, which is fine - you don't need to explain everything.

      I'll reiterate - this show is (was, as it's now coming to a final end?) absolutely amazing.  The talent involved and the wonderful things they've achieved as something brilliant to see.  I honestly don't know when we'll get to see another cartoon show children that it's okay to be different, gay, transgender, have an unusual family or any of the other myriad themes SU brought up.

      Cripes, what a whingey essay!  Sorry about that!  Plus we need more Sneople.

      Completely agree! At its core, Steven Universe is about their characters. If they don’t develop them well, it tends to lower in quality. Lore, new fusions, that’s cool and all, but I want characters who I’ve come to love! I want funny dialogue, interaction, wacky facial expressions! While I personally think Season 3 to be best, Season 1 is a close second place!

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    • Series 3 does have some absolutely amazing stuff - Mr. Greg alone is worth the price of admission :) 

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    • I'm still iffy about the black shirt...

      I miss the blue shirt...

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    • I never liked that Raising the Barn episode, or Can't Go Back.

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    • Here's a very unpopular opinion that is going to generate a lot of hate but whatever it's my opinion : I dislike Lapidot. But I'm not a hater, I just think they are two refugiees who became room-mates, bonded over discovering their new life on Earth and became best friends and I just don't like people shipping two characters just because they live(d) in the same place together.

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    • InazumAzure wrote: I'm still iffy about the black shirt...

      I miss the blue shirt...

      I totally agree : I love the reference (it's Greg's old shirt) but it just doesn't go well with the rest of the outfit, who symbolized all Four Diamonds. I don't know why they just used the blue shirt for littterally one movie and then throwed it away.

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    • Applejack2307 wrote: Here's a very unpopular opinion that is going to generate a lot of hate but whatever it's my opinion : I dislike Lapidot. But I'm not a hater, I just think they are two refugiees who became room-mates, bonded over discovering their new life on Earth and became best friends and I just don't like people shipping two characters just because they live(d) in the same place together.

      Totally agree. I don’t personally like how characters always have to be shipped together, but whatever floats your boat. Get it?

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    • - I hate that Rose and PD are the same character but that's not unpopular

      - I'm still concerned about the clustered gems and i believe no one remember them, everyone is just like "oh, they are good, their pain doesn't matter anymore"

      - I do like Ronaldo

      - I really hate Nanefua, becuse her name is annoying and she became a good mayor out of nowhere

      - I really like Lapis and i believe i understand her, she is happy now, let her be :c

      - I like Lapidot

      - I really like the admins of this wiki and how they manage it (wait, is that unpopular or even part of the show?)

      - I don't like the latin american version of Garnet

      - Leggy is my favourite Ruby

      - I always hated Navy

      - If Bismuth is lavaproof then, shouldn't the breaking point be lavaproof too?

      - I hate/love how the show everytime wents from an awesome epic battle or a very disturbing plot to singing and crying

      - I don't like Centi's uncorrupted design because she's bald

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    • Applejack2307 wrote:

      InazumAzure wrote: I'm still iffy about the black shirt...

      I miss the blue shirt...

      I totally agree : I love the reference (it's Greg's old shirt) but it just doesn't go well with the rest of the outfit, who symbolized all Four Diamonds. I don't know why they just used the blue shirt for littterally one movie and then throwed it away.

      If there is a new series after SUF(just in case it will be renewed) I really hope Steven wears the blue shirt again if not different colored shirts while still keeping the pink jacket.

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    • Further unpopular opinion:

      3d96x5

      'Expanding Brain' meme - top panel: Lapidot, Next panel: Peripis, Penultimate panel: Lazidot, Last panel: Perizuli.

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    • Jolmev wrote:
      - I hate that Rose and PD are the same character but that's not unpopular

      - I'm still concerned about the clustered gems and i believe no one remember them, everyone is just like "oh, they are good, their pain doesn't matter anymore"

      - I do like Ronaldo

      - I really hate Nanefua, becuse her name is annoying and she became a good mayor out of nowhere

      - I really like Lapis and i believe i understand her, she is happy now, let her be :c

      - I like Lapidot

      - I really like the admins of this wiki and how they manage it (wait, is that unpopular or even part of the show?)

      - I don't like the latin american version of Garnet

      - Leggy is my favourite Ruby

      - I always hated Navy

      - If Bismuth is lavaproof then, shouldn't the breaking point be lavaproof too?

      - I hate/love how the show everytime wents from an awesome epic battle or a very disturbing plot to singing and crying

      - I don't like Centi's uncorrupted design because she's bald

      - Oh neat, someone who likes Ronaldo!

      - I wouldn't say Nanefua becoming mayor came out of nowhere. She took charge with Steven against Watermelon Tourmaline in Beach Party and led the angry mob against Dewey in Political Power.

      - I believe Lapidot is actually pretty popular, last time I checked.

      - What would be the purpose of that, though? Who knows, maybe it is, but I imagine she wouldn't want to go fish it out now.

      - That's a cap.

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    • Crossover Enthusiast wrote:
      Jolmev wrote:
      - I hate that Rose and PD are the same character but that's not unpopular

      - I'm still concerned about the clustered gems and i believe no one remember them, everyone is just like "oh, they are good, their pain doesn't matter anymore"

      - I do like Ronaldo

      - I really hate Nanefua, becuse her name is annoying and she became a good mayor out of nowhere

      - I really like Lapis and i believe i understand her, she is happy now, let her be :c

      - I like Lapidot

      - I really like the admins of this wiki and how they manage it (wait, is that unpopular or even part of the show?)

      - I don't like the latin american version of Garnet

      - Leggy is my favourite Ruby

      - I always hated Navy

      - If Bismuth is lavaproof then, shouldn't the breaking point be lavaproof too?

      - I hate/love how the show everytime wents from an awesome epic battle or a very disturbing plot to singing and crying

      - I don't like Centi's uncorrupted design because she's bald

      - Oh neat, someone who likes Ronaldo!

      - I wouldn't say Nanefua becoming mayor came out of nowhere. She took charge with Steven against Watermelon Tourmaline in Beach Party and led the angry mob against Dewey in Political Power.

      - I believe Lapidot is actually pretty popular, last time I checked.

      - What would be the purpose of that, though? Who knows, maybe it is, but I imagine she wouldn't want to go fish it out now.

      - That's a cap.

      I don't know, i don't like grannys in general, they can be very annoying and mean when they are not adorable, and that's because they know they are old so they take advantage of it (one day i was walking and a granny stood in front of me and said that i must go outside the road because i was a man, i hate grannys since then), Garnet's voice in latin america sounds like a Granny

      I hope it's a cap :DD

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    • -I don't think Lars and Ronaldo are as bad as some fans claim. On the other hand, my least favourite character is Kofi Pizza because he's the type who bosses others around.

      - I like the idea of a Blue Pearl/Jasper fusion. Honestly, it's the contrasting personality types that interest me (and their colours complement each other), though it'll never happen.

      - As much as I enjoyed Change Your Mind, it's a shame that several of the fusions were only introduced in that epsiosde. Hopefully, we'll see them all again in Steven Universe Future.

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    • I would have liked all the episodes after Steven's Birthday if they kept his Teen Form and not regress him into a baby or stick to the status quo. I need more Teen Steven's voice so much!

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    • I think Stevonnie is kind of boring.

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    • LapisLazuliisthebest wrote:
      I think Stevonnie is kind of boring.

      Personally I think they've got a lot of potentialy, but that potential has only really been touched on in Alone Together and Jungle Moon.  

      The rest of their appearances, it feels like they're just a power-up mode for Steven, which is a shame.

      Even in Mindful Education I don't feel we're not really learning about them, we're learning about Steven, Connie and fusion as a concept.  I'd rather they explored Stevonnie and concepts of androgyny, intersex people and non-binary people.

      That said intersex people get almost no representation, so just having them as a character is a big improvement.  The rest of it probably boils down to it being a cartoon on a cartoon channel rather than a proper meditation and exploration of LGBT issues 😜 So I shouldn't be too critical, it's easy to wish for more and forget that before there was nothing 😎

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    • Ke2083 wrote:
      LapisLazuliisthebest wrote:
      I think Stevonnie is kind of boring.
      Personally I think they've got a lot of potentialy, but that potential has only really been touched on in Alone Together and Jungle Moon.  

      The rest of their appearances, it feels like they're just a power-up mode for Steven, which is a shame.

      Even in Mindful Education I don't feel we're not really learning about them, we're learning about Steven, Connie and fusion as a concept.  I'd rather they explored Stevonnie and concepts of androgyny, intersex people and non-binary people.

      That said intersex people get almost no representation, so just having them as a character is a big improvement.  The rest of it probably boils down to it being a cartoon on a cartoon channel rather than a proper meditation and exploration of LGBT issues 😜 So I shouldn't be too critical, it's easy to wish for more and forget that before there was nothing 😎

      Umm yes but tecnichally no

      Stevonnie is an intersex human yeah

      But Stevonnie's mind is just Steven and Connie pulling strings, when they agree in something they do it naturally, when they disagree, it happens like when Garnet lose control and she becomes Ruby and Sapphire at the same time instead of Garnet

      That's the thing with fusions, Garnet is so stable that she thinks as one person, Stevonie should be as stable as Garnet to be explored that way

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    • Unpopular opinion: While I dislike Lapis, and while she was partly to blame, the abusive fusion was Jaspers fault.

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    • Jolmev wrote:
      Ke2083 wrote:
      LapisLazuliisthebest wrote:
      I think Stevonnie is kind of boring.
      Personally I think they've got a lot of potentialy, but that potential has only really been touched on in Alone Together and Jungle Moon.  

      The rest of their appearances, it feels like they're just a power-up mode for Steven, which is a shame.

      Even in Mindful Education I don't feel we're not really learning about them, we're learning about Steven, Connie and fusion as a concept.  I'd rather they explored Stevonnie and concepts of androgyny, intersex people and non-binary people.

      That said intersex people get almost no representation, so just having them as a character is a big improvement.  The rest of it probably boils down to it being a cartoon on a cartoon channel rather than a proper meditation and exploration of LGBT issues 😜 So I shouldn't be too critical, it's easy to wish for more and forget that before there was nothing 😎

      Umm yes but tecnichally no

      Stevonnie is an intersex human yeah

      But Stevonnie's mind is just Steven and Connie pulling strings, when they agree in something they do it naturally, when they disagree, it happens like when Garnet lose control and she becomes Ruby and Sapphire at the same time instead of Garnet

      That's the thing with fusions, Garnet is so stable that she thinks as one person, Stevonie should be as stable as Garnet to be explored that way

      My interpretation of Stevonnie is that they do have their own personality, it's just that Steven and Connie can take the reins and converse with each other while fused much more easily compared to other Fusions.

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    • The Diamonds are extremely annoying in the Movie. I don’t want to see more of them if they’re going to keep being clingy and powerless in the presence of Steven.

      Also upset that Spinel left with them. She should’ve stayed in Little Homeworld and become a regular character with the rest of the main gems (someone on par with Bismuth, Lapis, and Peridot in terms of her role going forward)

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    • RidleyKraid187 wrote: The Diamonds are extremely annoying in the Movie. I don’t want to see more of them if they’re going to keep being clingy and powerless in the presence of Steven.

      Also upset that Spinel left with them. She should’ve stayed in Little Homeworld and become a regular character with the rest of the main gems (someone on par with Bismuth, Lapis, and Peridot in terms of her role going forward)

      Agree 100 percent. Whenever I think about it, Spinel and the Diamonds of all people, it just... doesn’t feel right.

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    • Jolmev wrote:
      Ke2083 wrote:
      LapisLazuliisthebest wrote:
      I think Stevonnie is kind of boring.
      Personally I think they've got a lot of potentialy, but that potential has only really been touched on in Alone Together and Jungle Moon.  

      The rest of their appearances, it feels like they're just a power-up mode for Steven, which is a shame.

      Even in Mindful Education I don't feel we're not really learning about them, we're learning about Steven, Connie and fusion as a concept.  I'd rather they explored Stevonnie and concepts of androgyny, intersex people and non-binary people.

      But Stevonnie's mind is just Steven and Connie pulling strings, when they agree in something they do it naturally, when they disagree, it happens like when Garnet lose control and she becomes Ruby and Sapphire at the same time instead of Garnet

      That's the thing with fusions, Garnet is so stable that she thinks as one person, Stevonie should be as stable as Garnet to be explored that way

      I appreciate it's open to interpretation. My thinking is that when fusions speak using the voices of their constituents, that's when they're 'pulling strings' as you put it. Like the less-sophisticated Transformers combiner teams: they are falling out of sync and can only do what the components can 'agree' upon.  Eg Alexandrite over dinner with the Maheswarens (when the gems argue about eating), or Malachite (who speaks with Jennifer Paz's and Kimberley Brooks' voices overlaid together).

      When they speak with their own voice, that's when they're acting as a unified entity: a new, discrete person with their own thoughts and feelings. Eg Garnet, Stevonnie, Smokey, Suggilite etc.  Even when they're talking (or arguing) with themselves, it's no different to when you or I might do so. We're just following their internal train of thought and that sometimes includes contradictory feelings.

      Either way, though, I think Stevonnie is more interesting when explored as a discrete character rather than as 'two kids in a trenchcoat' (to borrow a Kevin-ism).

      My tuppence haypenny 😎

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    • RidleyKraid187 wrote: The Diamonds are extremely annoying in the Movie. I don’t want to see more of them if they’re going to keep being clingy and powerless in the presence of Steven.

      Also upset that Spinel left with them. She should’ve stayed in Little Homeworld and become a regular character with the rest of the main gems (someone on par with Bismuth, Lapis, and Peridot in terms of her role going forward)

      I completely agree, the diamonds made Spinel to be a puppet, they were just as bad as Pink was in that sense, now they only want her to try replace Pink, the same way they see Steven.

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    • Dark Boss 7 wrote: I never liked that Raising the Barn episode, or Can't Go Back.

      What's wrong with those episodes?

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    • Mr. Lemmy 06 wrote:

      Dark Boss 7 wrote: I never liked that Raising the Barn episode, or Can't Go Back.

      What's wrong with those episodes?

      I didn't like how they turned Lapis into some kid who likes to...run away from...well, everything. Can't Go Back made that even worse.

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    • Another unpopular opinion: Change Your Mind is one of the worst Steven Universe episodes. The first time I watched it, I thought it was good, then the second time, I noticed just how bad it was. Also the title, like, Change YOUR Mind? It seems egotistical to me, I don’t know why. But, the worst parts were, the Diamonds, and the new fusions. I’ll discuss the latter first.

      Don’t get me wrong, I love the designs, and the episode made Rainbow 2.0 my favourite fusion, but.. It’s the way they were introduced. Take Smoky for an example, that was a fusion that spent time and character development leading up to it, it was perfect. But then all these one-off fusions came in and kinda ruined fusion for me. Also, the fact Steven was able to fuse with just the gemstones! Like, come on.

      Oh boy.. Now the Diamonds. I can’t even begin to describe how frustrated this has made me... For the love of fry bits, this was incredibly annoying! So, let me get this straight, we have these three GENOCIDAL dictators, who have ruled and built an empire for thousands of years, but oh, looky here! They’re all redeemed now, in the matter of, what? 15 minutes? Don’t tell me that doesn’t sound wrong. The worst part is, people put the Diamonds high on this pedestal, because they’re all good now, come on.. If 10 thousand years are nothing, surely learning how to have basic manners in the span of 2 years is also nothing.

      Oh god, this was long. But I can say, I’m hyped for Steven Universe Future. If you looked at the villain card, you’ll know.

      Anyway, sorry for this long rant, hope I didn’t get you too trigggered.

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    • +1 very good points and I very much agree 👍🏻

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    • DetectiveAquamarine wrote:
      Another unpopular opinion: Change Your Mind is one of the worst Steven Universe episodes. The first time I watched it, I thought it was good, then the second time, I noticed just how bad it was. Also the title, like, Change YOUR Mind? It seems egotistical to me, I don’t know why. But, the worst parts were, the Diamonds, and the new fusions. I’ll discuss the latter first.

      Don’t get me wrong, I love the designs, and the episode made Rainbow 2.0 my favourite fusion, but.. It’s the way they were introduced. Take Smoky for an example, that was a fusion that spent time and character development leading up to it, it was perfect. But then all these one-off fusions came in and kinda ruined fusion for me. Also, the fact Steven was able to fuse with just the gemstones! Like, come on.

      First off, it's called "Change Your Mind" to reference the song at the end of the episode, also called "Change Your Mind". The context of the song is someone changing their own mind, not being forced to by someone else.

      Second, calling the fusions one off is jumping the gun a bit, isn't it? We still have the entirety of Future to go through, where they could appear again.

      Also, what's wrong with Steven fusing with gemstones? It was a nice escalation of his empathy powers and the Gems' natural reforming ability, in my opinion.

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    • Crossover Enthusiast wrote:

      DetectiveAquamarine wrote:
      Another unpopular opinion: Change Your Mind is one of the worst Steven Universe episodes. The first time I watched it, I thought it was good, then the second time, I noticed just how bad it was. Also the title, like, Change YOUR Mind? It seems egotistical to me, I don’t know why. But, the worst parts were, the Diamonds, and the new fusions. I’ll discuss the latter first.

      Don’t get me wrong, I love the designs, and the episode made Rainbow 2.0 my favourite fusion, but.. It’s the way they were introduced. Take Smoky for an example, that was a fusion that spent time and character development leading up to it, it was perfect. But then all these one-off fusions came in and kinda ruined fusion for me. Also, the fact Steven was able to fuse with just the gemstones! Like, come on.

      First off, it's called "Change Your Mind" to reference the song at the end of the episode, also called "Change Your Mind". The context of the song is someone changing their own mind, not being forced to by someone else.

      Second, calling the fusions one off is jumping the gun a bit, isn't it? We still have the entirety of Future to go through, where they could appear again.

      Also, what's wrong with Steven fusing with gemstones? It was a nice escalation of his empathy powers and the Gems' natural reforming ability, in my opinion.

      I think Steven fusing with gemstones.... kinda cheapens the vulnerability factor Gems have whenever they’re poofed. Like, from now on, say a gem gets poofed. Amethyst gets impaled or whatever and poofs. Steven could rush in, or pull in her gemstone with his bubble, fuse with her, and now not only is she back within seconds, but now Smoky’s here, they’re even more powerful.

      If a gem gets poofed, that should leave them vulnerable for a long time. It’s not just an outfit change, it’s recovering from a fatal injury. Steven being able to force them back with little to no consequence removes the tension.

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    • RidleyKraid187 wrote:

      Crossover Enthusiast wrote:

      DetectiveAquamarine wrote:
      Another unpopular opinion: Change Your Mind is one of the worst Steven Universe episodes. The first time I watched it, I thought it was good, then the second time, I noticed just how bad it was. Also the title, like, Change YOUR Mind? It seems egotistical to me, I don’t know why. But, the worst parts were, the Diamonds, and the new fusions. I’ll discuss the latter first.

      Don’t get me wrong, I love the designs, and the episode made Rainbow 2.0 my favourite fusion, but.. It’s the way they were introduced. Take Smoky for an example, that was a fusion that spent time and character development leading up to it, it was perfect. But then all these one-off fusions came in and kinda ruined fusion for me. Also, the fact Steven was able to fuse with just the gemstones! Like, come on.

      First off, it's called "Change Your Mind" to reference the song at the end of the episode, also called "Change Your Mind". The context of the song is someone changing their own mind, not being forced to by someone else.

      Second, calling the fusions one off is jumping the gun a bit, isn't it? We still have the entirety of Future to go through, where they could appear again.

      Also, what's wrong with Steven fusing with gemstones? It was a nice escalation of his empathy powers and the Gems' natural reforming ability, in my opinion.

      I think Steven fusing with gemstones.... kinda cheapens the vulnerability factor Gems have whenever they’re poofed. Like, from now on, say a gem gets poofed. Amethyst gets impaled or whatever and poofs. Steven could rush in, or pull in her gemstone with his bubble, fuse with her, and now not only is she back within seconds, but now Smoky’s here, they’re even more powerful.

      If a gem gets poofed, that should leave them vulnerable for a long time. It’s not just an outfit change, it’s recovering from a fatal injury. Steven being able to force them back with little to no consequence removes the tension.

      Hmm... Fair point.

      I wonder if they'll explain in some kind of restriction to keep the tension, like "Steven was only able to fuse with them because they were ready to reform, but Yellow's powers were blocking them from doing so".

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    • Crossover Enthusiast wrote:

      RidleyKraid187 wrote:

      Crossover Enthusiast wrote:

      DetectiveAquamarine wrote:
      Another unpopular opinion: Change Your Mind is one of the worst Steven Universe episodes. The first time I watched it, I thought it was good, then the second time, I noticed just how bad it was. Also the title, like, Change YOUR Mind? It seems egotistical to me, I don’t know why. But, the worst parts were, the Diamonds, and the new fusions. I’ll discuss the latter first.

      Don’t get me wrong, I love the designs, and the episode made Rainbow 2.0 my favourite fusion, but.. It’s the way they were introduced. Take Smoky for an example, that was a fusion that spent time and character development leading up to it, it was perfect. But then all these one-off fusions came in and kinda ruined fusion for me. Also, the fact Steven was able to fuse with just the gemstones! Like, come on.

      First off, it's called "Change Your Mind" to reference the song at the end of the episode, also called "Change Your Mind". The context of the song is someone changing their own mind, not being forced to by someone else.

      Second, calling the fusions one off is jumping the gun a bit, isn't it? We still have the entirety of Future to go through, where they could appear again.

      Also, what's wrong with Steven fusing with gemstones? It was a nice escalation of his empathy powers and the Gems' natural reforming ability, in my opinion.

      I think Steven fusing with gemstones.... kinda cheapens the vulnerability factor Gems have whenever they’re poofed. Like, from now on, say a gem gets poofed. Amethyst gets impaled or whatever and poofs. Steven could rush in, or pull in her gemstone with his bubble, fuse with her, and now not only is she back within seconds, but now Smoky’s here, they’re even more powerful.

      If a gem gets poofed, that should leave them vulnerable for a long time. It’s not just an outfit change, it’s recovering from a fatal injury. Steven being able to force them back with little to no consequence removes the tension.

      Hmm... Fair point.

      I wonder if they'll explain in some kind of restriction to keep the tension, like "Steven was only able to fuse with them because they were ready to reform, but Yellow's powers were blocking them from doing so".

      “Blocking them from doing so”?! Like, they were trapped in an electrical cage, and if they reform from it right away...it will “kill” them??

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    • Dark Boss 7 wrote:

      Crossover Enthusiast wrote:

      RidleyKraid187 wrote:

      Crossover Enthusiast wrote:


      DetectiveAquamarine wrote:
      Another unpopular opinion: Change Your Mind is one of the worst Steven Universe episodes. The first time I watched it, I thought it was good, then the second time, I noticed just how bad it was. Also the title, like, Change YOUR Mind? It seems egotistical to me, I don’t know why. But, the worst parts were, the Diamonds, and the new fusions. I’ll discuss the latter first.

      Don’t get me wrong, I love the designs, and the episode made Rainbow 2.0 my favourite fusion, but.. It’s the way they were introduced. Take Smoky for an example, that was a fusion that spent time and character development leading up to it, it was perfect. But then all these one-off fusions came in and kinda ruined fusion for me. Also, the fact Steven was able to fuse with just the gemstones! Like, come on.

      First off, it's called "Change Your Mind" to reference the song at the end of the episode, also called "Change Your Mind". The context of the song is someone changing their own mind, not being forced to by someone else.

      Second, calling the fusions one off is jumping the gun a bit, isn't it? We still have the entirety of Future to go through, where they could appear again.

      Also, what's wrong with Steven fusing with gemstones? It was a nice escalation of his empathy powers and the Gems' natural reforming ability, in my opinion.

      I think Steven fusing with gemstones.... kinda cheapens the vulnerability factor Gems have whenever they’re poofed. Like, from now on, say a gem gets poofed. Amethyst gets impaled or whatever and poofs. Steven could rush in, or pull in her gemstone with his bubble, fuse with her, and now not only is she back within seconds, but now Smoky’s here, they’re even more powerful.

      If a gem gets poofed, that should leave them vulnerable for a long time. It’s not just an outfit change, it’s recovering from a fatal injury. Steven being able to force them back with little to no consequence removes the tension.

      Hmm... Fair point.

      I wonder if they'll explain in some kind of restriction to keep the tension, like "Steven was only able to fuse with them because they were ready to reform, but Yellow's powers were blocking them from doing so".

      “Blocking them from doing so”?! Like, they were trapped in an electrical cage, and if they reform from it right away...it will “kill” them??

      I was thinking more like the electrical cells from "Jail Break". if the Gems tried to reform before a certain point (i.e. leave the cell), they would be shocked and forced back into their gemstones.

      Thinking about it this way makes a nice parallel to Jail Break, actually...

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    • Two more: 'What's the use of feeling, Blue?' is the worst song.  It completely breaks RS's model of 'characters only sing when they have something important to say' because it doesn't tell us anything new. We knew Blue missed Pinky D and was sad. We knew Yellow was all 'rawr I deal with my feelings through angerz!'  All it does is serve as a lore-dump about what some different gems are for.  Plus DD-Magno-H (due to Yellow Pearl's nasal voice) channels Bugs Bunny. Plus-plus the main instrument is that 'Diamond theme' wheezing synth-organ-bagpipe-thing, which I dislike.

      Next one: Steven's healing powers is a massive problem. Narratively, they've just written themselves into a corner.  Unless Steven has another 'oh noes my powers' moment, literally any damage can be healed.  Even death.  Where's the legitimate danger?  He smooched the Earth back to health!  He resurrected Lars!  He fixed Greg's arm!  At least before when it was hit-and-miss (mostly miss) it avoided this problem.  Steven can literally now heal anything and everyone!

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    • Can’t even tell if this is unpopular, but:

      A fusion between either Blue or CG Pearl and Pink Pearl would result in the most unstable fusion ever to exist.

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    • Unpopular Opinion(that I had bottled up for so long now I'm gonna share it)

      The SU movie should have added another 30 minutes to make it 2 hours.

      The deleted Peridot tap dancing scene is added, How Lapis tried to move the injector herself with giant hands from the ocean is shown. And this...

      Spinel should have said "How comedic and now this is where your story ends! Goodbye Steven Universe" and let Steven fall instead of saying "how could a powerful loser be savior of the galaxy". Steven will have a dramatic inner monologue in a slow-mo fashion as he falls to his demise and realized that "he failed and this is how his story ends I'm sorry" only to discover "the power to change" through a flashback and/or ephipany. Spinel will then say "Welp now that's over phew. And this is how the legendary Steven Universe falls and the chapter ends am I right?(creepy face glance at the viewers)" and say whatever and laughs but behind her Steven appears floating and goes on a speech about change.

      The Change Song and fight scene remains unchanged although it might extend a bit longer except after the "you just can't make everything better by singing some stupid song" and punch scene, The impact hits Steven's head and go unconscious. Spinel goes on a beatdown on an unconscious Steven while saying the "you change for the better but I changed for the worst" line. In a suprise this prompts Pink Gem Steven to take over Steven's human body (signifying the pink glow all over his body with pink hair, like a saiyan does and Diamond Eyes) and say "You shouldn't have suggested that singing won't work so why not I "change" my options then" and goes all out on Spinel and overwhelming her with two new abilities. Disassembling the polygon shield like a shattered glass and use it as projectiles and a barrage of exploding pink bubbles.

      PS possessed Steven grabs a weakened Spinel as she says "do it end me I deserved it" and closes her eyes while shedding a single tear waiting for her fate. Since this is SU (where pacifism always wins) staying true to the code, inside Steven's mind Human Steven stops Pink Steven from finishing off Spinel. Pink Steven and Human Steven made a short but civil arguement regarding about happily ever afters, finishing the job and future problems. In the end Human Steven sucessfully pleads Pink Steven to not finish her off and regains control of himself letting her go. Steven then says "No this isn't the way. I'm not gonna end you. You deserve a second chance" The "but what about your happily ever after and in the end i'll always have a job to do part", Spinel saying sorry to Steven remains the same but they are still on top of the injector. One extra scene where Steven gives a hand to Spinel and then they hug is added as the injector explodes. Both of them arrive safe and sound with a pink barrier but in a dramatic and graceful manner.

      The rest of the movie proceeds normally as always do. That will be all! Any thoughts on this? My shield is up and ready. Please don't hit me.

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    • InazumAzure wrote:
      Unpopular Opinion(that I had bottled up for so long now I'm gonna share it)

      The SU movie should have added another 30 minutes to make it 2 hours.

      The deleted Peridot tap dancing scene is added, How Lapis tried to move the injector herself with giant hands from the ocean is shown. And this...

      Spinel should have said "How comedic and now this is where your story ends! Goodbye Steven Universe" and let Steven fall instead of saying "how could a powerful loser be savior of the galaxy". Steven will have a dramatic inner monologue in a slow-mo fashion as he falls to his demise and realized that "he failed and this is how his story ends I'm sorry" only to discover "the power to change" through a flashback and/or ephipany. Spinel will then say "Welp now that's over phew. And this is how the legendary Steven Universe falls and the chapter ends am I right?(creepy face glance at the viewers)" and say whatever and laughs but behind her Steven appears floating and goes on a speech about change.

      The Change Song and fight scene remains unchanged although it might extend a bit longer except after the "you just can't make everything better by singing some stupid song" and punch scene, The impact hits Steven's head and go unconscious. Spinel goes on a beatdown on an unconscious Steven while saying the "you change for the better but I changed for the worst" line. In a suprise this prompts Pink Gem Steven to take over Steven's human body (signifying the pink glow all over his body with pink hair, like a saiyan does and Diamond Eyes) and say "You shouldn't have suggested that singing won't work so why not I "change" my options then" and goes all out on Spinel and overwhelming her with two new abilities. Disassembling the polygon shield like a shattered glass and use it as projectiles and a barrage of exploding pink bubbles.

      PS possessed Steven grabs a weakened Spinel as she says "do it end me I deserved it" and closes her eyes while shedding a single tear waiting for her fate. Since this is SU (where pacifism always wins) staying true to the code, inside Steven's mind Human Steven stops Pink Steven from finishing off Spinel. Pink Steven and Human Steven made a short but civil arguement regarding about happily ever afters, finishing the job and future problems. In the end Human Steven sucessfully pleads Pink Steven to not finish her off and regains control of himself letting her go. Steven then says "No this isn't the way. I'm not gonna end you. You deserve a second chance" The "but what about your happily ever after and in the end i'll always have a job to do part", Spinel saying sorry to Steven remains the same but they are still on top of the injector. One extra scene where Steven gives a hand to Spinel and then they hug is added as the injector explodes. Both of them arrive safe and sound with a pink barrier but in a dramatic and graceful manner.

      The rest of the movie proceeds normally as always do. That will be all! Any thoughts on this? My shield is up and ready. Please don't hit me.

      Pink Steven can't take over because he is also Steven, is not KO/TKO personality disorder

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    • Another unpopular opinion. [Keep in mind that I got this from Nora Traynor’s video about this very subject, so the points I’m bringing up will be similar to the ones she brought up]

      Now, onto the opinion! Connie was a much better character before she learned how to sword fight. Let me explain. Before, we didn’t know much about her, she was mysterious! She was actually interesting. But now whenever she’s on screen, she doesn’t really add anything! Why do you think she wasn’t in the movie that long? She couldn’t have really added anything other than ‘woo swords’. Like I said, she doesn’t add anything anymore, that interesting character, out the window! Her character’s kinda gone now. When I think of Connie now, it just.. really frustrates me.

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    • I think that makes sense 👍 I love Connie, but her character arc was really wrapped up around 'Nightmare Hospital' when she straightened out her wonky relationship with her overbearing mother.  Since then she generally only turns up when they want to do either Stevonnie or a name-check.

      The YouTuber AwestruckVox did a video the other week about how there's no pacing issue in Steven Universe, because it's all the Big, Bad Network's fault and he really 'gets' how cartoons are made... but it's things like Connie's arc that put the lie to that, I feel.

      It's a shame that so much stuff in SU is brilliant and then quite fundamental elements like that are just kinda fumbled in the third act.

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    • "Mysterious"? Y'all she was and always has been a dork

      I will agree, though, that the thing SU has the most trouble with is character arcs - or rather, what to actually do with characters when they're not needed or it isn't Character Development Time™.

      I think Season 2 has the best example of both; Peridot and the Cluster got like half a season's worth of episodes dedicated to them, all in row where Peridot was at the forefront and the Cluster was a constant threat, with the only exception being "Steven's Birthday", where both still get a mention. Compared to Malachite, who only got like one actual episode and two quick mentions spread across the first half of S2, when there really should have been more focus on her.

      Or moving back to Peri and the Cluster, the latter basically noped out of the show until "Reunited", while the former stopped being seriously relevant after her character arc concluded, barring two episodes in the second half of Season 5. The Cluster could've easily gotten a few mentions and Peridot could've been put into some other episodes with a more prominent role, like the "Out of This World" arc (sidenote, if we're talking about AwestruckVox, he actually did a pretty good video regarding her character post-"Too Short to Ride" a while back. I recommend it if you haven't seen it).

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    • Another unpopular opinion...

      I don't like the Corrupted Steven is Wormy Boi theories popping around in the Internet. It really hurts! I really hope the Worm Monster has a relation to the Cluster Arc.

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    • Oh actually I also hope the Wormy Boi isnt Steven, that would be so sad !!

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    • InazumAzure wrote: Another unpopular opinion...

      I don't like the Corrupted Steven is Wormy Boi theories popping around in the Internet. It really hurts! I really hope the Worm Monster has a relation to the Cluster Arc.

      Judging from what other people have been saying, that isn’t really unpopular. Whereas, I, on the other hand, could not care less if Steven were to be corrupted, they can’t end it like that because it’ll become The Inquisition level bad. Nobody wants that, and the fan outrage directed at the Crewniverse after it happens, it’ll just be a mess.

      It’d be definitely be cool if Worm Boi was related to the Cluster, though!

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    • I find Pink Steven really overrated and uninteresting. Especially the Fandom’s portrayal of it as a “malicious entity”- a TKO rather than, well, Steven.

      It’s just Steven’s gem half personified separately from his human half. He’s literally half as interesting as Steven as a whole. It was alright to see what happens when Steven’s gem gets removed, but I don’t care to see it again.

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    • RidleyKraid187 wrote: I find Pink Steven really overrated and uninteresting. Especially the Fandom’s portrayal of it as a “malicious entity”- a TKO rather than, well, Steven.

      It’s just Steven’s gem half personified separately from his human half. He’s literally half as interesting as Steven as a whole. It was alright to see what happens when Steven’s gem gets removed, but I don’t care to see it again.

      Finally! I fully agree. While I like the scene with PS in CYM, I don’t need to see it again.

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    • Crossover Enthusiast wrote:
      I will agree, though, that the thing SU has the most trouble with is character arcs - or rather, what to actually do with characters when they're not needed or it isn't Character Development Time™.

      Yep. The characters seem to be treated often a little bit like toys: they come out the package, get played with a lot, then they go back into the toybox only to re-appear for cameos or group-shots because we're 'done with them now'.  Rather than spreading their development out in a paced way.

      I think just about the only character who is regularly revisited and evolved is Amethyst: each series she grew a little more, became a bit happier about herself and dealt with her issues before getting it all resolved right at the tail-end of Series 5.  Very nicely done 👍 The rest or a bit of a mixed bag (Peridot is a great example).

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    • Ke2083 wrote:

      Crossover Enthusiast wrote:
      I will agree, though, that the thing SU has the most trouble with is character arcs - or rather, what to actually do with characters when they're not needed or it isn't Character Development Time™.

      Yep. The characters seem to be treated often a little bit like toys: they come out the package, get played with a lot, then they go back into the toybox only to re-appear for cameos or group-shots because we're 'done with them now'.  Rather than spreading their development out in a paced way.

      I think just about the only character who is regularly revisited and evolved is Amethyst: each series she grew a little more, became a bit happier about herself and dealt with her issues before getting it all resolved right at the tail-end of Series 5.  Very nicely done 👍 The rest or a bit of a mixed bag (Peridot is a great example).

      It is very telling that Amethyst was the only Crystal Gem who’s first fusion with Steven felt earned. Smoky felt like a natural point in Amethyst’s arc, whereas Rainbow and Sunstone just popped in as a means to get Pearl and Garnet back.

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    • RidleyKraid187 wrote:

      It is very telling that Amethyst was the only Crystal Gem who’s first fusion with Steven felt earned. Smoky felt like a natural point in Amethyst’s arc, whereas Rainbow and Sunstone just popped in as a means to get Pearl and Garnet back.

      A superb point IMO 👍 Lot of relationship build up to get Smokey (and the delightful Natasha Lyons) whereas the others did, exactly, pop up.  A direct symptom of the rushed pacing.

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    • Well I don't. I still think that Steven needs at least some mentoring, advise, from his gem half unlike TKO who is a bit against KO atleast. PS could be a teacher/defense mechanism archtype and is like "the decision is yours/it's your choice I'm just saying" I don't need Pink Steven himself in battle just Steven with Pink Hair with glowing pink aura(not all pink). Yeah sure he has defensive powers but I still want to see more exploration about Diamond Powers. I also want more offensive options.

      The reason for that is not everything can be solved by diplomacy, talking, and pacifism. People get redeemed to quickly here(I hope Jasper, Aquamarine, and Emerald aren't redeemed in the "Future"). As some people say "the best defense is a good offense". Who knows Snake People and other beings cannot be reasoned and are volatile than Gems.

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    • Ke2083 wrote:
      Crossover Enthusiast wrote:
      I will agree, though, that the thing SU has the most trouble with is character arcs - or rather, what to actually do with characters when they're not needed or it isn't Character Development Time™.
      Yep. The characters seem to be treated often a little bit like toys: they come out the package, get played with a lot, then they go back into the toybox only to re-appear for cameos or group-shots because we're 'done with them now'.  Rather than spreading their development out in a paced way.

      I think just about the only character who is regularly revisited and evolved is Amethyst: each series she grew a little more, became a bit happier about herself and dealt with her issues before getting it all resolved right at the tail-end of Series 5.  Very nicely done 👍 The rest or a bit of a mixed bag (Peridot is a great example).

      Peridot pretty much became a joke-character not long after losing her limb-enhancers.

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    • InazumAzure wrote:
      Well I don't. I still think that Steven needs at least some mentoring, advise, from his gem half unlike TKO who is a bit against KO atleast. PS could be a teacher/defense mechanism archtype and is like "the decision is yours/it's your choice I'm just saying" I don't need Pink Steven himself in battle just Steven with Pink Hair with glowing pink aura(not all pink). Yeah sure he has defensive powers but I still want to see more exploration about Diamond Powers. I also want more offensive options.

      The reason for that is not everything can be solved by diplomacy, talking, and pacifism. People get redeemed to quickly here(I hope Jasper, Aquamarine, and Emerald aren't redeemed in the "Future"). As some people say "the best defense is a good offense". Who knows Snake People and other beings cannot be reasoned and are volatile than Gems.

      But Steven and PS are pretty much the same being, PS is just a piece of Steven, there's nothing hinting of PS being it's own character.

      Those characters will most likely be redeemed. I'm pretty sure I've heard of Jasper getting a redemption arc.  Aquamarine never felt like a true villain anyway, she was just a jerk doing her job, that's all. And she did willfully offer not to say anything about Topaz's betrayal.  And I think Emerald just wants her ship back.

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    • Pink Steven is literally just his gem half given form. They aren’t really a character on their own. They’re a half of a whole. A half only visible when his GEM is taken out. This is not a KO/TKO situation.

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    • InazumAzure wrote:
      Well I don't. I still think that Steven needs at least some mentoring, advise, from his gem half unlike TKO who is a bit against KO atleast. PS could be a teacher/defense mechanism archtype and is like "the decision is yours/it's your choice I'm just saying" I don't need Pink Steven himself in battle just Steven with Pink Hair with glowing pink aura(not all pink). Yeah sure he has defensive powers but I still want to see more exploration about Diamond Powers. I also want more offensive options.

      The reason for that is not everything can be solved by diplomacy, talking, and pacifism. People get redeemed to quickly here(I hope Jasper, Aquamarine, and Emerald aren't redeemed in the "Future"). As some people say "the best defense is a good offense". Who knows Snake People and other beings cannot be reasoned and are volatile than Gems.

      A Tumblr I used to follow made an interesting point on this note.

      Steven Universe does have people who fight, because they're not in a position to talk stuff out, and it's presented as OK.  Garnet, Amethyst and Pearl (particularly Garnet) often in the first 3 series, had to resort to violence because they were not in a position to do anything else.  They had to go on the offence.

      Steven came into his own, and discovered he had the privilege of being able to talk to people. Because he's a diamond, because he's basically gem royalty.  He has the privilege to be able to talk to and reason with protagonists.  He doesn't need to get his fists out.  And yes, that means he has to make peace with bad people ('cos if they were good people, they'd already be friends, right?) because he has a position where that's OK for him to do.

      The show itself rather cleverly doesn't make comment on this - it shows that both sides are just people using what they have to solve problems.  Ames, 'Net and P use their fists because it's all they have.  Steven uses his 'royal' background because it's what he has.

      They have shown that sometimes you have to use force, because it's all you have.

      Again, my pointless 2¢ largely cribbed from someone much smarter than me 😎

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    • Ke2083 wrote:

      InazumAzure wrote:
      Well I don't. I still think that Steven needs at least some mentoring, advise, from his gem half unlike TKO who is a bit against KO atleast. PS could be a teacher/defense mechanism archtype and is like "the decision is yours/it's your choice I'm just saying" I don't need Pink Steven himself in battle just Steven with Pink Hair with glowing pink aura(not all pink). Yeah sure he has defensive powers but I still want to see more exploration about Diamond Powers. I also want more offensive options.

      The reason for that is not everything can be solved by diplomacy, talking, and pacifism. People get redeemed to quickly here(I hope Jasper, Aquamarine, and Emerald aren't redeemed in the "Future"). As some people say "the best defense is a good offense". Who knows Snake People and other beings cannot be reasoned and are volatile than Gems.

      A Tumblr I used to follow made an interesting point on this note.

      Steven Universe does have people who fight, because they're not in a position to talk stuff out, and it's presented as OK.  Garnet, Amethyst and Pearl (particularly Garnet) often in the first 3 series, had to resort to violence because they were not in a position to do anything else.  They had to go on the offence.

      Steven came into his own, and discovered he had the privilege of being able to talk to people. Because he's a diamond, because he's basically gem royalty.  He has the privilege to be able to talk to and reason with protagonists.  He doesn't need to get his fists out.  And yes, that means he has to make peace with bad people ('cos if they were good people, they'd already be friends, right?) because he has a position where that's OK for him to do.

      The show itself rather cleverly doesn't make comment on this - it shows that both sides are just people using what they have to solve problems.  Ames, 'Net and P use their fists because it's all they have.  Steven uses his 'royal' background because it's what he has.

      They have shown that sometimes you have to use force, because it's all you have.

      Again, my pointless 2¢ largely cribbed from someone much smarter than me 😎

      And it’s not like Steven NEVER fights. He’s beaten Corrupted Gems, fought against Peridot, Amethyst, Jasper, Topaz, Blue Diamond, and Spinel in particular- He DOES fight. And it’s fine. He’s okay with fighting his opponents if he’s presented with no way to reason with them.

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    • Is this thread still going!?

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    •  TalkingOddlySpooky wrote:
      Is this thread still going!?

      Yeah! You think a thread about unpopular opinions would get closed quick because of arguing, but everyone's been pretty civil with each other.

      Oh, and regarding Sunstone and Rainbow, Pearl and Steven definitely needed more time, but Garnet and Steven did have some build up to fusing - "Pool Hopping" had Garnet realize Steven matured while Garnet confided in Steven, their moment of saying the same thing at the same time in "Reunited", ect. - but them actually fusing should have been its own episode.

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    • Wow. I also agree that Rainbow needed more time.

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    • My Unpopular Opinions:

      1. Lapis Lazuli is by far one of the worst SU characters to date. She is toxic, uses her emotions as an excuse to be horrible to people, even people she considers "friends", and she reminds me a lot of Pink Diamond/Rose Quartz with how so constantly runs away from her problems which was a huge issue throughout the entire show and never changed, just proving how poorly her character development is. If she developed at all.

      2. I actually think Jasper is an interesting, eye-catching character and I am excited to see how she redeems herself and what she adds to SU: Future.

      3. (Other than Pink Diamond) White Diamond is by far my least favorite Diamond and also the worst, personality and morality wise.

      4. Pink Diamond IS a terrible person/gem and while some debate that she was developing and changing as a character before Steven was born, I highly disagree. Pink Diamond giving birth to Steven just shows how much she didn't change. She decided that giving birth (something that only she wanted) was more important than literally everything and anything else and knowingly left her mess behind for Steven and everyone else to clean up for her, all while completely ignoring/forgetting every responsibility she had as the leader of Crystal Gems.

      5. I feel like the pearls (Blue Pearl, Yellow Pearl, Pink Pearl) deserved more screen time because we know almost nothing about them.

      6. Aquamarine and Spinel are both easily the best villains in the entire series.

      7. Connie's character is annoying, entitled and pretty much only serves as a love interest to Steven. When Steven gave himself up to Home World to be put on trial as Rose Quartz, it irked me that she actively ignored Steven just because he didn't take her with him, this to me felt like she was being entitled to be a part of all parts of his duty as the new Pink Diamond all because they made a promise to do all things together (which is a unrealistic expectation in the first place) and didn't take into consideration anyone's safety and WHY Steven did what he did, she only cared about how she didn't get to be there for/with him.

      8. All fusions that include Steven, with the exception of Obsidian, are aesthetically ugly.

      9. Amethyst is my least favorite Crystal Gem. She's immature, gross, and not a great influence for Steven.

      10. Lars and Sadie are not a good couple/ship.

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    • I agree with all the above.

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    • I do not. To be specific though:

      1. Lapis does have a character arc, and it deals with exactly what you're saying - the whole reason she returns in "Reunited" is because she's tired of running away from everything.

      7. Steven went on this big spiel about working together to overcome their problems when Pearl started putting her self-sacrifice mentality into Connie, but when the cards were against them Steven just gave up with little fuss, and it hurt her. Connie wasn't angry because Steven left her, she was angry because Steven basically gave up his life and acted like it was No Big Deal after the fact. And "part of his duty as the new Pink Diamond"?? That happened AFTER that!

      8. Does that include Stevonnie?

      9. This is a statement accurate to Season 1 Amethyst and only Season 1 Amethyst.

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    • Crossover Enthusiast wrote:
       

      8. Does that include Stevonnie?

      9. This is a statement accurate to Season 1 Amethyst and only Season 1 Amethyst.

      8. I also thought of this 

      9. Yeah, I actually agree with Cross here.

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    • Unpopular opinions?? Hmm, I guess my number 1 unpopular opinion would be that Spinel isn't even that special, in fact; I'm so sick of seeing her character everywhere and people giving her all this attention because she had a generic "lost toy" backstory. My second unpopular opinion would be that S1 is by far the best organized season, the perfect balance of story, and comedy; the true roots of Steven Universe.

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    • I agree with the first one.

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    • Season 1 forever ❤️👍🏻

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    • Esterwa wrote:
      My unpopular opinion is that they should bring the Mystery Girl back. I understand that Pearl needed to solve things out with Rose, be independent for a while, but it would be cool if we got a look into how their relationship turned out.

      They don't even have to be together, they could be close friends ( but i wouldn't mind seeing them together ). It just feels like the whole crew forgot about her :((

      I agree! I mean, it kinda feels like they had all this buildup in the episode, and it never went anywhere. I hope she's at least mentioned in SU Future

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    • 1: Flashback episodes are the best

      2: Amethyst is a great role model (sometimes...)

      3: Young Greg and Sadie Killer and the Suspects have the best songs

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    • TotallyNotObsessed wrote:
      1: Flashback episodes are the best

      2: Amethyst is a great role model (sometimes...)

      3: Young Greg and Sadie Killer and the Suspects have the best songs

      I agree! Sadie Killer and the Suspects definitely has the best songs in the show. 

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    • TalkingOddlySpooky wrote:
      Crossover Enthusiast wrote:
       

      8. Does that include Stevonnie?

      9. This is a statement accurate to Season 1 Amethyst and only Season 1 Amethyst.

      8. I also thought of this 

      9. Yeah, I actually agree with Cross here.

      This definitely includes Stevonnie. I don't think Stevonnie is an attractive character. 

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    • Moonlightst wrote:
      TalkingOddlySpooky wrote:
      Crossover Enthusiast wrote:
       

      8. Does that include Stevonnie?

      9. This is a statement accurate to Season 1 Amethyst and only Season 1 Amethyst.

      8. I also thought of this 

      9. Yeah, I actually agree with Cross here.

      This definitely includes Stevonnie. I don't think Stevonnie is an attractive character. 

      ...I thought we were talking about aesthetics? Nobody said anything about Stevonnie being attractive.

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    • I believe this goes more into shipping territory, but oh well..

      I heavily dislike Lapidot as a character pairing, and as a romantic ship, and I am a much bigger fan of Amedot (not in the romantic way as well, just character wise).

      I mean, I’m not even that big of a fan of Lapis, and her treatment of others and a lot of her... toxic behaviour does not sit well with me. Lapis literally took the barn away, sending Peridot into a depression, and made Peridot agree to go along, even though Peri never wanted to go in the first place! Lapis made Peri afraid to speak up! Lapis is probably one of my least favourite characters on SU, and how she treats Peri solidifies that.

      Now, onto Amethyst. Amethyst is quite easily, one of my favourite characters on the show, and her relationship (not romantic) with Peri is a good example, well, for me at least. Amethyst was honestly pretty kind to Peri, which is shown in “Too Short To Ride”, where she tries to motivate her. Also, in “Too Far”, that whole episode was centred around them, and it was actually really good! Also in “Beta”, where Peri tries to cheer Amethyst up, despite it not working too well... the point being, that it was a sweet attempt.

      In conclusion, I just feel that when it’s centred around them, Amethyst and Peridot are far better than Lapis and Peridot, because to me, it feels more healthy; because both characters try to encourage one another constantly. Whereas with Lapis and Peri, it doesn’t happen too much...

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    • Shipping is only done well when the pair makes sense. Normally, if somebody has a crush on another character everybody goes to shipping even though that may not always be the best thing to go to straight away. DetectiveAquamarine explains how Peri and Amethyst are better for each other and I agree, you need some actually bond where the character interacts and in a positive way and sometimes when something goes wrong so that when it get's better, it normally makes the ship stronger. Also, if there is character development between the two of them, it normally works well. You may think this works for Lapidot but read more of the above. Did when something went wrong make them a better ship? No. It just makes Lapis more stubborn and then Peri finds it more difficult to interact with her. Amethyst and Peri have actually grown more to be friends over the series but Lapis just came back and kinda restarted and went back to "Barn Mates" but of course poor Peri doesn't want to be depressed anymore and doesn't realise how bad Lapis is. So, when Lapis ones back, they act like nothing happened. And yes there was that tiny interaction but Lapis only like "Hey," (Although they were in battle with Blue Diamond)

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    • Every time I laugh when Lapis says "I wouldn't call it spying otherwise that would make me feel bad" which in a way means she doesn't really care about anything else happened because she doesn't already feel bad.

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    • Crossover Enthusiast wrote:
      Moonlightst wrote:
      TalkingOddlySpooky wrote:
      Crossover Enthusiast wrote:
       

      8. Does that include Stevonnie?

      9. This is a statement accurate to Season 1 Amethyst and only Season 1 Amethyst.

      8. I also thought of this 

      9. Yeah, I actually agree with Cross here.

      This definitely includes Stevonnie. I don't think Stevonnie is an attractive character. 
      ...I thought we were talking about aesthetics? Nobody said anything about Stevonnie being attractive.

      Really? Because I literally just said so. lol 



      I may not have worded my original statment fully or correctly, but I definitely meant that I don't think any Steven included fusion is aesthetically pleasing, in regards to color scheme, design, or fashion, NOR do I think they are attractive. I thought that was obvious, but nevertheless, no. I don't think Stevonnie, or any other Steven fusion is attractive OR aesthetically pleasing. 

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    • TheOffColors wrote:
      Unpopular opinions?? Hmm, I guess my number 1 unpopular opinion would be that Spinel isn't even that special, in fact; I'm so sick of seeing her character everywhere and people giving her all this attention because she had a generic "lost toy" backstory. My second unpopular opinion would be that S1 is by far the best organized season, the perfect balance of story, and comedy; the true roots of Steven Universe.

      I disagree ENTIRELY. I love Spinel as a character and she only adds more to the overall plot twist that Rose Quartz/Pink Diamond wasn't the good natured, hero we all thought she was in the beggining of the series. She's cute, her gem cut is unique and had yet to be seen until her apperenace in the movie, and I love her theatrical personality! Moving forward, I think she is going to add a lot to SU: Future. 

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    • Moonlightst wrote:
      TheOffColors wrote:
      Unpopular opinions?? Hmm, I guess my number 1 unpopular opinion would be that Spinel isn't even that special, in fact; I'm so sick of seeing her character everywhere and people giving her all this attention because she had a generic "lost toy" backstory. My second unpopular opinion would be that S1 is by far the best organized season, the perfect balance of story, and comedy; the true roots of Steven Universe.
      I disagree ENTIRELY. I love Spinel as a character and she only adds more to the overall plot twist that Rose Quartz/Pink Diamond wasn't the good natured, hero we all thought she was in the beggining of the series. She's cute, her gem cut is unique and had yet to be seen until her apperenace in the movie, and I love her theatrical personality! Moving forward, I think she is going to add a lot to SU: Future. 

      Well, we already knew Pink was a bad person, that case just wasn't really addressed until Spinel.

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    • Very unpopular opinion (not confined to SU): I think 'shipping' is often toxic.  And I speak from a PoV of hypocrisy as someone who was doing it 20 years ago in the Gundam Wing fandom! 😄 (Gawd I'm old...)

      To be clear, there's nothing inherently bad about thinking two characters would be good together (as a team, friends or a couple) and it's naturaly to form those ideas.  It's a good way for fans to emotionally explore characters and flesh out the universe in which they live.

      But put a bunch of 'shippers' together with fanart, fanfic etc. and you will end up with a minority who go down a path of intense emotional attachment (and entitlement) to something that ultimately isn't true (not yet, and maybe never).  They then go off on the artists because they didn't get what they wanted.  Which is like getting mad at someone for something they did to you in a dream!

      Exhibit A: how Jesse Zuke got chased off the Internet because they wrote/storyboarded Lapis and Peridot rather than Amethyst and Peridot... despite ultimately neither amounting to anything more than hints!  Then they ended up with a mental breakdown, to the point they had to solicit donations to pay rent! (I know because I contributed to their fund.). All because they broke something that wasn't canon in the first place with something else that still isn't canon!

      [Note: naturally it's completely possible to not let a ship become a toxic fixation, but consider what sort of an utter meltdown would happen to the SU Fandom if Peridot does, canonically, start dating Amethyst!  'Lapidot' fans would lose their collective minds... and I'm sure the same is true if we switched it around for 'Amedot' fans]

      [Note 2: 'q-baiting' I feel is a separate topic, and is a legitimate gripe against a story trying to hook LGBT fans by hinting at things, in a calculated way, which they have absolutely no intention of exploring]

      Come at me, bro! 😉🤜

      Screenshot 2019-11-12 at 10.01.33

      Two alien figures are talking over coffee. One says "Last night in a semiconscious state I imagined you betrayed me." They continue "When I awoke, these imagined events made me suspicious of the real you. What an irrational reaction!" Their friend says "Truly!". In the final panel, the first alien looks suspicious and adds "And yet".

      (Artwork from Strange Planet)
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    • Ke2083 wrote:
      Very unpopular opinion (not confined to SU): I think 'shipping' is often toxic.  And I speak from a PoV of hypocrisy as someone who was doing it 20 years ago in the Gundam Wing fandom! 😄 (Gawd I'm old...)

      To be clear, there's nothing inherently bad about thinking two characters would be good together (as a team, friends or a couple) and it's naturaly to form those ideas.  It's a good way for fans to emotionally explore characters and flesh out the universe in which they live.

      But put a bunch of 'shippers' together with fanart, fanfic etc. and you will end up with a minority who go down a path of intense emotional attachment (and entitlement) to something that ultimately isn't true (not yet, and maybe never).  They then go off on the artists because they didn't get what they wanted.  Which is like getting mad at someone for something they did to you in a dream!

      Exhibit A: how Jesse Zuke got chased off the Internet because they wrote/storyboarded Lapis and Peridot rather than Amethyst and Peridot... despite ultimately neither amounting to anything more than hints!  Then they ended up with a mental breakdown, to the point they had to solicit donations to pay rent! (I know because I contributed to their fund.). All because they broke something that wasn't canon in the first place with something else that still isn't canon!

      [Note: naturally it's completely possible to not let a ship become a toxic fixation, but consider what sort of an utter meltdown would happen to the SU Fandom if Peridot does, canonically, start dating Amethyst!  'Lapidot' fans would lose their collective minds... and I'm sure the same is true if we switched it around for 'Amedot' fans]

      [Note 2: 'q-baiting' I feel is a separate topic, and is a legitimate gripe against a story trying to hook LGBT fans by hinting at things, in a calculated way, which they have absolutely no intention of exploring]

      Come at me, bro! 😉🤜

      Screenshot 2019-11-12 at 10.01.33

      Two alien figures are talking over coffee. One says "Last night in a semiconscious state I imagined you betrayed me." They continue "When I awoke, these imagined events made me suspicious of the real you. What an irrational reaction!" Their friend says "Truly!". In the final panel, the first alien looks suspicious and adds "And yet".

      (Artwork from Strange Planet)

      If that really is an unpopular opinion, it shouldn't be.

      Shipping is about one of the worst part of fandoms and often brings out the worst in people.  Look at Star Vs., people hated Jackie Lynn Thomas simply because she got in the way of Starco.  No other reason but because of their obsession with Starco.  nd that's just one example.

      It's like characters can't even be friends, they have to be shipped together. And there's no limit to what people will ship, The Loud House has Loudcest and Gravity Falls has Pinecest as examples.

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    • ShadowBeast wrote:
      It's like characters can't even be friends, they have to be shipped together. And there's no limit to what people will ship, The Loud House has Loudcest and Gravity Falls has Pinecest as examples.

      Now... there's two things I was much happier not knowing existed 🤢 Lousy Rule 34. Le sigh.

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    • Moving on...

      I don't want Steven Universe to have an irredeemable villain, as that would miss the entire point of the show.

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    • Actually yeah, that is true.

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    • Crossover Enthusiast wrote:
      Moving on...

      I don't want Steven Universe to have an irredeemable villain, as that would miss the entire point of the show.

      I agree, people get too bent out of shape when a villain gets redeemed. There's plenty of shows/movies/books/video games where villains are not redeemed.

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